Thread 280593296

Subtitles seem to get worse and worse with every season. Before, it was just generally poor translations from official simulcasts. Then it was MTL for a lot of series, such as Blue Archive and Girls Band Cry. Now we have AI with no quality control; it doesn't even require a translation, just someone to read over the finished script and clean it up, but we don't even get that much.

So my question is, why is fansubbing dead? It's not completely dead but compared to before the rise of simulcasts, it might as well be. There's a few groups still subbing series and a lot of them well after the fact but why not as a show is released anymore? Once in a while, an anon will sub something (U149, for example) but it's plain to see that anyone with a grasp of English and a minimal understanding of Japanese would do better than most simulcast anime. So why don't anons sub anime? They already scanlate a lot of manga.

>>280593296 (OP)
Nobody cares enough to wait 2-3 days for quality subs when there is a semi decent ML translated simulcast version the minute the show aired in Japan

>>280593296 (OP)
because fansubbers do it for the ego and internet clout

they used to get hundreds of thousands of downloads within the first day of when they released but now noone cares and will just grab the first CR/Netflix rip instead

they don't wanna fansub for something that will get 10k downloads

>>280593405
This is provably wrong since U149 got only a couple thousand downloads when it released later the same day as the simulcast and the anon still did the entire anime.

why don't you just learn japanese
why do you expect strangers to do a ton of work for you
fucking choosing beggar

>>280593296 (OP)
its only english fansubbing that's dead.

>>280593296 (OP)
>why is fansubbing dead?
It's not.
Fansub groups are still active, still doing shit, but there isn't a rush to do newer shows because the inevitability is that the fastest release will always be a CR ripper, and the majority of people will just drift to that, so it's better to just wait for the BD if you really care about it, since by then your release will have a greater selling point and you'll only need to do ONE release instead of 11-26 releases + a batch + a BD batch.
Even in saying that, groups dedicated to cleaning up pro translations of airing anime are active. From my watchlist, Idol Precure and Yaiba both has fans working on cleaning up terminology and improving lines in the official subtitles.

But anyways, most fansubbers are working on older shows. A lot of them
>don't have translations
>have flawed translations
>are using outdated releases (i.e., DVDrip when BD is available, hardsubbed, .avi, etc.)
There are also fansubbers working on movies since those often release on BD in Japan before they even leave theatres in the west.
>>280593423
>This is provably wrong because [anecdotal example]
The vast majority of currently airing fansubs were done purely for notoriety and ego tripping. That's why you'd see a lot of groups drop shows that just didn't take off (most infamous example might be [gg] fucking with Sacred Seven's release when nobody gave a shit, to the point of changing the OP and just doing memesubs).

>>280593423
yeah, the main reason people fansub and scanlate is mostly because of interest and because they love it
people complaining about it being for clout are usually just projecting

>>280593453
>>280593480
the duality of /a/

>>280593296 (OP)
>why is fansubbing dead?
You answered your own question: simulcasts.
This apples to manga as well, but the difference is that there's a gorillon manga out there that will never be considered for official TLs, so scanlations will never die.

>>280593296 (OP)
>every season
:V QUACK!

>>280593480
>the main reason people fansub and scanlate is mostly because of interest and because they love it
You're actually delusional lol.
I saw three way group drama over who could scanlate fucking KAIJI when the lead translator of the current group quit a few years back. It wasn't drama over who provided a better translation or did better typesetting, it was literally just petty and related entirely to wanting clout- clout for translating, again Kaiji, a manga read in English by about 200 people at this point. These other guys, if they did love the work, would've retranslated the first two parts of Kaiji, or ripped the digital volumes for better quality scans for Parts 1-4, transplanted the Part 5 TLs into the volume releases, or translate literally anything else, but they didn't. They just wanted clout for being "The guys who translate Kaiji". For some fucking reason.

>>280593296 (OP)
>dattebayo! is japanese for fuck yeah!

Ego tripping about being able to translate is pathetic. It's the same shit for /a/, you should make OC because you like your community and want them to have fun and partake, not because you can slap your name on it and gloat anytime it gets posted (and then repost it yourself).

>>280593296 (OP)
>There's a few groups still subbing series and a lot of them well after the fact but why not as a show is released anymore?
There are six currently-airing shows I'm watching with fansubs (two of them are shorts, in fairness). So it's not really accurate to say that nobody's subbing series as they air.
Fansubs already had a hard time competing with official streamrips' speed. Most people have always downloaded whichever release comes first instead of waiting for the "best" one. When the official streamers learned how to properly encode a video and stopped watermarking and/or hardsubbing the episodes in the mid-late 2010s, a lot of groups quit because there was nothing left for them to do.
Maybe as official licensors cut more and more corners with AI/MTL and more series start falling through the cracks each season, we'll see a renaissance of fansubbing, but I sadly doubt it considering how technologically illiterate younger generations are. Kids these days don't even understand how folders work, they'd never be able to figure out how to use Aegisub or MKVToolnix.

>>280593584
I've been scanlating for four years myself. You can't say that everyone does it because of clout because of one observation you dunce.

>>280593296 (OP)
AI will save us

>>280593702
I never said everyone, but it is absolutely undeniable that ego is a strong motive for most of them.

>>280593615
>you should make OC because you like your community and want them to have fun and partake
I almost don't make OC content on /a/ anymore because people repost them on plebbit and claim they were the ones that made it all the time.
I don't mind people speading it and having fun with it like it should be, but these plebbit retards really bug me off.

>>280593453
Pon no Michi got subbed last year by anons and it was a show no one cared about, memesubs are better than MTL chinksubs any day

>>280593423
That's an exception

>>280593738
You shouldn't be surprised that people desperately want to claim ownership over anything made on an anonymous imageboard, especially these days. It's the same as AI shit, they didn't do any work but still want the benefit when they put it on their Pixiv or any other art account. It's sheer laziness but they want to be treated with respect because they bothered to steal it and repost it to another community.

>>280593747
That show was trash. It's like >>280593453 said, if the show is bad, just do memesubs. It's the only reason anyone watched Sacred Seven or Pon no Michi.

>>280593819
Couldn't disagree more. It was always extremely obnoxious when a popular group like gg decided they didn't like a show and, instead of dropping it like normal people would, they went out of their way to shit on it with their unfunny memes. And since that would be the version most people downloaded, their memes would then decide the show's reputation forever instead of its own quality. Fuck that.
I watched Sacred Seven with Ayako and Shini's subs and it was a decent 7/10, not the le epic trainwreck that gg and their fans wanted it to be.

>>280593428
/thread

>>280594000
>7/10
At least be truthful when you're trying to prove your point. It's a 6/10 on a good day. It's not a great show but it's not a trainwreck and the only reason [gg] did what they did is because it was underwhelming. Pon no Michi is shit even with an understanding of mahjong and correct translations, so I don't care that someone shat it up with memes.

>>280593747
>>280593819
Memesubs just result in ruining a show. That's it.
If you think they're a good thing, you probably like youtube abridged shit.

>>280593428
>>280594015
Moralfagging on 4chan is retarded, you people don't belong here.

>>280594147
>moralfagging is calling people lazy and retarded

>>280594164
>why don't you do it yourself?

Yeah, why don't you rip and upload the episode yourself? Why do you need someone else to do it?

>>280594201
Most shows are already on a digital streaming service, so yeah, why do you need someone else to do that.

>>280594223
The same reason everyone on 4chan does. They don't want to pay for it. You're on a website of hobby boards where most people don't want to spend money or time on engaging with the hobbies that they spend all day on. Complaining that someone on 4chan doesn't want to learn Japanese to watch a series in the original language because subtitles suck is retarded because there are people that can (and may) subtitle it. It's practically the same as asking why anons don't pay for streaming services or purchase games or albums, they are cheap and lazy retards.

>>280594147
>Moralfagging on 4chan is retarded, you people don't belong here.
what's moralfagging about telling someone to learn japanese instead of begging others to translate for them
are you genuinely retarded

If you knew Japanese, you wouldn’t be posting on 4chan /a/. You could speak to people that actually care about the medium.

>>280594323
Genki 1
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Genki 2
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Genki teacher
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Hiragana/Katakana/Kangxi radicals Anki decks and Yotsuba Learning Pack
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There, now you have everything you need to learn Japanese for free.
I don't know how you even manage to do the mental gymnastics of claiming that telling someone to learn Japanese is moralfagging, but then again retards are allowed to post on 4chan I guess.

>>280594422
Japanese guys don't really care either, and the ones that do mock people JSLs.

>>280594444
>spoonfeeding someone obviously posting in bad faith
You’re just as retarded. Kill yourself.

>>280594460
>ESL opining on language discourse
lol

>>280594422
The discussion boards in Japanese are pretty garbage. Places like 2chan is basically just reactions and no discussion. They could just as well just have written their reactions on a blog or something. For some reason or another their culture just refuse to interact with each other or something.

>>280594470
>haphazardly switch from "people who know Japanese as a second language" to "JSLs" to improve flow
>forget one word
>get called an ESL by some fatfuck Mexican

>>280594077
Splitting hairs over whether a run-of-the-mill show from 14 years ago was really a 6/10 or a 7/10 is beside the point.
I'm old enough to remember when Ninja Scroll got licensed and AnimeJunkies got really butthurt about it and wrote that cringey open letter demanding that Urban Vision unlicense it so it could keep getting fansubbed. They were universally ridiculed and shit on at the time for that stunt because in 2003, it was still somewhat understood that fansubbers didn't actually make the anime themselves and they were not bigger or more important than the original material they were subbing. That level of self-awareness declined over the following decade to the point where groups started getting praised for the exact same kind of attention-whoring behavior that would have been frowned on 10 years earlier. Now we even have official licensors forcing dated memes like "sus" into every other line of dialogue because fansubbers spent a decade conditioning people to accept and want this style of "translation."

>>280594640
You're an idiot if you think fansubbers conditioned people into accepting it. People still post screencaps and say "why did they translate it like this". Most of the people that take it at face value and don't care weren't watching anime when fansubs were relevant, the rest don't care anymore because they know it's something that they can't change and they're speaking to others who don't care.

>>280594500
Learn English before posting.

>>280594701
he'd have a point if me was talking about the weebism coming with fansubs and a lot of words and honorifics not translated and localized properly, which is a sign of a poor translation, but for some reason he went with complaining about zoomer lingo instead, which basically no one does officially except a few seven seas translations that have been revised since then
so yeah, this guy is a trolling faggot

>>280594769
Zoomer lingo does still get thrown into a lot of translations but it's a retarded thing to argue about. Aside from Nagatoro, which is the big one that people complained about the use of "sus", there's been other shows since then that also use it or similar slang that isn't an appropriate translation for a Japanese person speaking, even if they too are using slang.

>>280593702
post motivated by ego, otherwise he wouldn’t have mentioned him scanlating himself

>>280593702
Let's see your scanlations.

>>280593296 (OP)
>You can just me and forget leave it all to everything!
holy shit, it's unintelligible

>>280595423
modern translations

>>280593296 (OP)
There was a pop up fansub group for Shuumatsu Train Doko e Iku?, they did some nice touches with the subs and were fairly speedy on releases. But really, the big problem is seasonal anime culture. Everyone wants to be with the newest thing for the latest memes to shitpost about. Honestly, fuck that noise, just watch whatever catches your eye from any era.

Also support the few fansubbers you see. I was so impressed by the work Anon did on episode three of U149, I donated him like...$10?

>>280594769
>correct translations are a sign of poor translation
fucking embarrassing

>>280596010
leaving words untranslated because you're a weeb isn't correctly translated you dunce

>>280595713
The fact that you had a way to donate to the U149 fansubber is proof that he wasn't doing it out of love for the hobby and wanted something more.

>>280593711
>AI will save us

>>280596605
It's the future they chose.

>>280596605
Technically that's a human error.

>>280596119
Nothing wrong with a tip jar, he only shared it in the batch torrent, so I doubt he got much out of sharing the link anyway. I can't stress what a monumental achievement that episode 3 was, the lunatic translated all the livestream chat messages and had them moving in real time. It was seamless and clearly a shit ton of effort.

People beg for money for far less than this.

>>280597699
>Nothing wrong with a tip jar
Yes, there is. It's an anonymous imageboard, you should be doing it out of love for the hobby. If you ever want to make money, go make a fansub group and beg like the rest of them do. As soon as you become identifiable, especially in such a way that someone can send you money, you're doing it wrong.

>>280597699
This is what anon meant when he said retards can’t use aegisub, it does not take much effort to do this

>>280599248
Most people on /a/ these days don't even download anime, they watch streams like Crunchyroll and Netflix

>>280593296 (OP)
We told you to learn japanese but you were too lazy to spend 6 months for a skill that you will use for many years to come
You reap what you sow

>>280599386
Penguindrum is shit and I'm convinced the reason so many people remember it fondly is because of airing threads and gg

>>280599397
>learn a useless language for a hobby that has subtitles more than any other language

>>280593296 (OP)
It's a lot of work to do for idiots who by and large don't give a shit about subtitle quality. Even in the golden days of fansubbing, absolute garbage like Hadena would get the most downloads because it was released first.
Basically, learn nip, you lazy bum.

>>280593296 (OP)
I watched 9-nine yesterday with subs and goodness gracious that was atrocious, I started learning japanese a while ago luckily

>>280599748
>lot of work
Just say you don't know how to use aegisub

>>280593296 (OP)
>don't dead
>open inside

>>280599813
Aegisub doesn't translate for you.

>>280593296 (OP)
>u149
Almost like loli anime is otaku core, the only people that really cares about anime, shitty isekai anime and normalfag anime will never have a good treatment and there's too much of it anyways.

>>280599810
Based imouto enjoyer

>>280599397
How many hours a day tho? And how much I need to spend? You always say the same but you never specify anything about it fag.

>>280593296 (OP)
>steal anime so studios lose out on funding
>Aeegh why don't they hire more skilled trannylators????
kek, this is you and most of /a/. if you don't pay for anime your opinion is literally worthless.

>>280599880
Learning Japanese isn't hard either.

>>280599947
>How many hours a day tho?
As much as you like. You like Japanese, don't you?
>And how much I need to spend?
Nothing. Zero. Nada. Zilch.
I did use some pirated textbooks and dictionaries a little, but even free online resources are sufficient already.

>>280599810
That show is terrible but the bad subs aren't exclusive to it. The worst is definitely Necromico this season.

>>280600006
shut up jewflix/crunchyshit nigger, you will never belong here

>>280600057
>even free online resources are different already
This is an outright lie.

>>280593296 (OP)
nisekoi's official subs were inspired by the fansubs and had that style, I wish every anime had subs like that.

>>280593428
even most japanese watch with japanese subs.

>>280600057
I like Japanese things not japanese per se, I know a lot of words already and hiragana/katakana, I tried learning Kanji too but it's a fucking slog

>>280600100
What's wrong, wanikani shill? Subscriptions are dropping because people are realizing they can learn Japanese for free? Oh no, so sad.

>>280600037
Perhaps, but translating things from one language to another in a succinct way can be tough, especially if there are puns or jokes involved, or if there are pop culture references that you need to do some research to understand.

>>280600205
What are you babbling about schizo

>>280596078
Retaining things that do not translate 1:1 is correct and proper translation you baboon. Localization is not translation.

>>280600225
It isn't. A literal translation or a translator's note will suffice. The issue only arises when retards throw in western slang as a replacement for Japanese slang that could be addressed with what I just said instead of being lazy.

>>280593480
Most scanlaters don't even go back and redo badly MTLed chapters and you think they're doing it purely for the love of it

>>280600229
Free online resources are sufficient no matter how much you cope and seethe about it
I never paid a dime, I gave up on reading my pirated Genki halfway through, all pirated dictionaries I used are available on kotobank, and I can read novels without assistance now.

>>280600356
Sure you can lil buddy

>>280600379
So are you going to post a link to the paid resource that you advertise that everyone ABSOLUTELY MUST BUY or else they can NEVER learn Japanese, or are you literally just crying and projecting about your own incompetence?

This season has made me more glad than any other since learning Japanese that I did. Like every other ep1 thread for Summer was just anons (rightfully) bitching about AI subs.

>>280600430
I didn't use any resources, I am Japanese by birth

>YOU HAVE TO PAY TO LEARN NIPPONESE ONLINE
even if you want those types of beginner courses, they are fucking free here https://minato-jf.jp/

just a reminder that anyone telling you to learn japanese clearly hasn't themselves since they still post on 4/a/ instead of on japanese forums, so either they're lying or not genuinely interested in the hobby this board is about

>>280600268
Literal translations and TL notes are the lazy man's approach. Nobody wants to pause the video to read your meticulously researched explanation of the joke; they just want the joke.

>>280600599
Actual retard post

>>280600599
>they just want the joke
the joke that the japanese writer made, or the joke that the trannylator made? fucking retard

>>280599678
>useless language
You'll fail upwards into a management position if you know Japanese and apply at a Japanese company with an American branch.
It's literally just because they like having a guy that can talk to people directly. You WILL miss out on this if you wait too long, because these boomers also LOVE AI.

>>280595584
Why do you all always use the same font

>>280600563
>since they still post on 4/a/ instead of on japanese forums
retard
the nips don't have discussion boards similar to what's in the west
at best they just have reaction boards
they're fairly worthless and no fun really
it's pretty japanese to never interact with others like that honestly

>>280600430
>So are you going to post a link to the paid resource that you advertise that everyone ABSOLUTELY MUST BUY or else they can NEVER learn Japanese, or are you literally just crying and projecting about your own incompetence?
see >>280594444
holy fuck you're retarded, links tonearly everything you need were already posted in this thread even
fucking useless zoomers god damn I swear

>>280600563
retard, they're all region locked and ban VPNs

>>280600760
incorrect

>>280593296 (OP)
anime now is shittier than before, nobody gives a fuck about subs if you can get them free from the shitty crunchyshit or whatever.
also fuck torrenting, just watch online lol.
used to watch 20 series per season, now I'm only at 2 or 3.

>>280600633
A joke to laugh at.
Well, I'm autistic and I was always interested in learning Japanese language and culture so I appreciated the explanations of the joke that the japanese writer made too. But that has no place in commercial subtitles attempting to grab a normalfag audience.

>>280593296 (OP)
>you can just me and forget leave it all to everything!
?????????

>>280600775
Your face is incorrect.

>>280600664
because I'm not particularly fond of typesetting and I'm lazy

>>280600760
they're not, but if you're not writing perfect japanese and they realize that you're a baka gaijin, they're going to bully you
japanese are severely xenophobic

>>280593296 (OP)
Everyone everywhere lost their passion to do anything.

>>280600803
>"anime then, anime now" fag
>ESL
>streamfag
>outing himself in the last line
lol

>>280600886
Not true.
I've posted a bit on an altchan sprung off from 5ch that wasn't region locked and on a discord server sprung off from Futaba/may with interesting quasi-anonymization features, and everyone's friendly and welcoming there.
But those places aren't sufficient to fully satiate my need for antisocialization. That would have to be either 5ch itself, or Futaba itself, or 4chan.

>>280601015
>your opinion only matters if you consume dozens of mediocre series every season
get some taste

>>280601084
Nobody said that, I just said you outed yourself.

>>280601104
Outed about what then?

>>280594422
You mean anonymous, Japan?
They're as garbage as you.

>>280600834
Don't mind if I do

>>280594500
He's just a seething EOP. He, like all EOPs, lack the discipline to learn a new language and that's why he's so bitter and jealous. Same reason they're mad at all translators.

>>280594497
No shit that an image board is used for posting images with little to no substance.
Discussion happens on 5ch.

>>280593296 (OP)
IMAGINE BEING AT COMPUTERS

>>280601744
insane thing to say when it's provably wrong by just browsing any of the japanese imageboards

>>280593584
>would've retranslated the first two parts of Kaiji
At the end of the day translations serve a functional purpose of making content available in a target language. why.. do you want people to re-translate entire parts that were already done by someone else? are you stupid?

>>280603398
Because it was done poorly?

>>280602031
So you're saying there's no discussion on 4chan?

>>280603611
was part 1-4 and 5 done that poorly? I read it just fine.

>>280604219
There is but only because everyone is using 4chan wrong, and that's why everyone is having a bad time.
Discussion should have stayed on SomethingAwful.

>>280604345
“Readable” and “correctly translated” are two very different things

>>280599248
A third of the episode was like this or similar. There were over 15000 individual lines, many of them moving. Guy said it took him over 30 hours of work to get it done.

>>280598740
He did it out of passion and expected nothing. Looking at the tip jar account, he got pretty much nothing. Whine all you want about how people should do it for free, you don't have to pay.

>>280603398
>>280604345
Kaiji Part 1 is MTL tier with worse typesetting.
Kaiji Part 2 is ESL tier with goodish typesetting but on a horrifically low quality release.
Parts 3-5 just need to be updated to higher quality scans.

Could've done that if you REALLY cared about Kaiji instead of starting drama over who can do the newest scans.

>>280600808
This is one step away from "Western normie audiences don't understand Japanese culture, so let's just localize the entire show and remove everything referencing anything Japanese"

>>280593296 (OP)
why is there no fanart of chitoge? I mean good one, not the ones with /d/ tier tits and shit quality?

>>280604520
>>280605447
The entire fanbase has read it and I don't even see it brought up that often. Furthermore, everyone has already read it. This means there would be a benefit to improving it but mostly on a re-read, but that means re-doing entire FIVE volumes? That's a small gain:effort ratio. Isn't it common sense to prioritize new content? You want it "perfectly translated" because you think someone ought to "prove themselves". It's not even that you actually even want it.
I'm just saying that maybe you're the odd one out in your priorities and not me. You might be a perfectionist like murata who I heard does redraws. You shouldn't be surprised if not everyone shares your views and priorities.

>>280605882
It isn't even a step away, that is literally his argument but he is trying to word it in a way that sounds as sane as it possibly could.

>>280605882
>>280606144
My argument is this: you can't tell trannylators what to do when they are clearly already succeeding despite making you angry, you should just learn Japanese if you don't like them
俺がそうしたように、な

>>280594444
I have a life, a busy but fulfilling career and a wife unlike you, faggot. Not everyone is a no-lifer who cares to spend 4000 hours on a skill that'll only ever be useful for consuming raw media when subs already exist. Fuck you.

>>280606098
>The entire fanbase has read it and I don't even see it brought up that often. Furthermore, everyone has already read it.
Said the same thing twice, and said the same WRONG thing twice.
The "entire fanbase" watched the first two seasons of the anime. Barely anyone touched the manga, and part of that is because the Part 1 manga is basically unreadable in English.
>This means there would be a benefit to improving it but mostly on a re-read, but that means re-doing entire FIVE volumes?
They're 13 volumes each, and it wouldn't be difficult to redo. Everyone already accepted the translation choices of the anime, it would be able cleaning and typesetting the materials, and if you are SUPPOSEDLY a fan of Kaiji who wants to contribute to the manga, you would do that.

I'm not saying "God why hasn't this happened yet" you retarded faggot. I'm saying that scanlations are NOT about the dumb shit you and others are insisting on, some shit about people wanting to do it because they want to contribute positively to the community, and my point was that Kaiji became embroiled in a retarded three way tug of war over who could scanlate it when the lead translator quit.
It wasn't even "the main group dropped it", the main group was still on it, their assistant translator was just the new translator, and multiple other groups tried to swoop in like vultures for CLOUT.

If these people actually loved Kaiji they wouldn't have done that, they would've done what I described, as that is actually contributing positively to the community or whatever other gay shit.

>>280593296 (OP)
Fansubbing was a necessity from an era when there were only terrible subtitles available, or often times no subtitles available at all. If you were "lucky" a show would get an American release and the studio that bought the rights would chop it up and re-edit it to the point that it was unrecognizable. Most shows got no English release at all. Fansubs were your only option. Die hard fans wanted to make the show available to other fans, and worked to make it happen.
These days damn near every show gets a release with at least serviceable subtitles. The situation is no where near as dire as it was in the pre-streaming era.

>>280594444
Sounds like a waste of time. Don't you have anything better to do?

We took them for granted. Even if half the people shat on them it was nice when gg and commie were around. Felt like there were actually people beyond the posters here. Some days it takes effort to even see these posts as more than bots. Got any group blogs other than LonelyChaser and Inka to get that community fix?

>>280600599
>crossposter is brain damaged
Color me surprised.

>>280600803
Amazing. Usually, streamtards that still have some remnant of neural activity going on in their brain, use the overwhelming amount of anime they watch as an excuse to not """"bother"""" torrenting.
This specimen, however, seems to carry a mutated version of this simple, hardcoded instruction.

>>280607517
I'm currently working on a porn manga that I can't post to sadpanda because fakku sends auto takedowns, so only place I can upload it really is mangadex. No one is probably going to read it. Doesn't stop me from doing it though because I like it.

>>280607517
Yeah, there's some drama and I don't care about it. You bringing up whatever drama or imagined mtl you find on the streets and expecting others to care is insufferable. And then doing pull off gems like "why didn't someone do 5 vols of redraws? mm". The drama is a problem elsewhere but you're pulling this off here.
>twice
The second sentence is to emphasize the second point; everyone's fucking read it, you're rambling about doing it again, when everyone's read it, or seen it, maybe storytime'd, it's stupid.
>They're 13 volumes each, and it wouldn't be difficult to redo. Everyone already accepted the translation choices of the anime, it would be able cleaning and typesetting the materials, and if you are SUPPOSEDLY a fan of Kaiji who wants to contribute to the manga, you would do that.
You say all that and hasn't done it...
>if you are SUPPOSEDLY a fan of Kaiji who wants to contribute to the manga, you would do that.
I get you aren't too much of a fan.

>>280607517
If it's not difficult, then you do it. Redo those 65 volumes. I want to see it done by tomorrow.

>>280593296 (OP)
>not watching the dub

>>280608083
>The situation is no where near as dire as it was in the pre-streaming era.
For now, sure, but each new show that premieres with Hadena-tier MTL subs is dragging us a little bit closer to that era. And to be honest, once BitTorrent got popular, the pre-streaming era already wasn't THAT bad anymore.
It's not hard to imagine a nightmarish future where Crunchyroll can no longer be shamed into fixing their shit anymore because most of their audience is too illiterate to notice how bad the subs are, where everyone with the knowledge of how to make fansubs is too old to bother anymore, and there aren't any younger people for them to pass the baton to because they barely understand how to use a computer. It could get a lot worse than pre-streaming days with how things are going.

>>280608700
make sure to upload to a few different sites if you can
relying only upon one site seems like a real trap these days

>>280596078
who the fuck are you and why are you on /a/

>>280599537
penguindrum is great

>>280609814
I've been on /a/ longer than you've been alive little zoomer.

>>280610480
Go finish up the c;h chu chu translation

>>280609708
what other places are there for uploading porn?
I only know about sadpanda and mangadex really
I guess I could dump them on the hentai board
it's my first hentai

Hijacking this thread for a semi-related question
I'm tired of seeing pic related on seadex so I'm planning on sourcing bdmvs for my favorite series that sadly befall in this category, grabbing the subs from the alt release and slapping them on top of the better video, with hopefully minimal editing involved on my end.
Now, my question is, how should I tag these series? Should I use my own group's tag, or the one of the group that made the alt release? Also, should I mark it as a remake? Technically it'd be my own encode, but the subs are still from a different group

>>280593296 (OP)
>why is fansubbing dead?
It is dead because retards who speak English as a second language (most anime "fans") have zero standards and are perfectly fine with anything that appears to be written entirely in English, even if that "English" is actually just 3rd world anime subtitle/manga pidgin
>I'll never forgive (x)/Unforgivable
>Fufufufu
>Kukukuku
>My heart isn't ready
>That's my line
>I've entered the bath
>Even if you say that
>Bitch
>Juice
>Confessed
>Hamburger
>Such a thing
>Illumination
>... ... ... ...
>Tension
And countless other sins that could fill the pages of an entire book about dogshit translation/localization practices. It's a symptom of both shitty Japanese knowledge and shitty English knowledge that gets worse each passing day as one translator uses someone else's shitty translation as a reference and produces even more vile slop than the first.
No one has standards and everyone is a speed watcher who just wants the subs as fast as possible so they can slurp one slop before moving onto the next trough just as quickly.

Just learn Japanese.

>>280593296 (OP)
you can all just me and forget leave it to everything

>>280594444
Nice digits

>>280611692
Rather, it's dead because third worlders like (You) who only learned nigger English online can't comprehend anything that isn't in that same nigger English.
The one thing you are right about is referencing poor translations is quite common, such as この野郎 being translated to "You bastard!" because there is no English equivalent, but some of the lines you have posted are completely correct and accurate lines, even if they make you seethe like a little retarded bitch.
On the other hand lines like
>My heart isn't ready
>That's my line
>Even if you say that...
>Such a thing...
>Confessed/confession
>fufufufu/kukukuku
>I've entered the bath
These are all staple lines that are 100% accurate assuming the correct line in Japanese was stated. They work in the English language and not translating those lines exactly like that is an alteration of the original text and a sin against translation and all attempts to say otherwise is a pathetic lie from someone that doesn't know or speak English or someone pushing a localization agenda to destroy the original text the author wanted to convey out of pure malice and evil. Granted that probably includes you now that I think about it.
If you want to translate bitch as slut go right ahead, I'd rather use a TL note at the top, but at least in this case it makes sense, unlike most of your other complaints which are based on fucking nonsense other than the fact that you don't like how it reads. Pathetic little bug.

>>280609147
>>280608725
Talking to the biggest retards on the planet.
Here it is in plain terms
>Main group translates Kaiji and has done so from Part 2 all the way to Part 6 for over a decade
>Main translator of said group leaves, another person in group steps up
>But because such a major figure left, several other groups swoop in to be "The Kaiji Guys"
That's it, that's what the scene is about, it's about clout and wanting to be the guy to translate "that manga".
I'm not saying "this is easy", I'm saying that if THEY WERE A FAN and WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE there are so many other BETTER avenues than to cause scanlation drama over who gets to work on what, and the reality is that they DO NOT CARE. They are not FANS, they want CLOUT.

If you want a more famous example of this- Baki. Baki for what, decades, has had mostly complete dogshit BELOW MTL tier translations because one guy wanted the clout for doing Baki. And you want to know what the real fans did?
They retranslated and rescanned Baki Parts 1 and 3. Because that's what a fan, who wants to contribute, should do. Instead of causing drama, they should take something that has REAL ISSUES and fix it.

You people are the reason why this shit happens, you're so fucking braindead that anyone with google translate and MS paint open is a god among men and you should worship the very ground they walk on.

>>280611692
Sounds like you just want a bunch of Commie-isms like "scrub-a-dub-dub, i'mma hop in the tub!" instead because you've convinced yourself that only purple prose can be "real English."
Most of the phrases you're complaining about are reused a lot because they're unobtrusive and get the job done. Whenever a translator tries to reinvent the wheel, they always come up with some obnoxious Borderlands-tier dialogue that's annoying to read for the span of a whole episode.

>>280611507
If you're taking a BDMV and encoding/remuxing it yourself, that's a release.
A remake would fall under a different category, where it is someone taking a release and modifying it. You can use your group's tag, but remember to source all files you used in the torrent description (for clarity, most people don't want to download a bunch of shit just to find out what subs are being used).
Nyaa also has a wiki for things like what you should name your torrents and files.

>>280612599
Thanks anon. Currently working on Love Lab just as a test, might release this weekend if things go well, and if they go great I might work on harder to find stuff/stuff that desperately needs a better version like Milky Holmes and Uchouten Kazoku (which are actually the main reason I'm doing this)

>>280593296 (OP)
>spoonfeed me, translator-kun!

>>280593357
>Nobody cares enough to wait 2-3 days
I would absolutely happily wait or even pay for quality subs (if it's a reasonable price) if we were actually talking about a 2-3 day wait.
More often than not a series will end and all it gets is a slightly more efficient re-encode or two.
I remember a copy of Mushishi I had gotten (S1 or 2 I can't remember, I've since lost it to an old HDD) that came not only with well timed subs, but its own custom font called Mushiscript or something.
I'd really like that back

speaking of OP, does anybody know where one can find the original dynamic quality subs for nisekoi that have been timed for the bluray boxset? anybody with access to a private tracker that is able to check that please? >>280593296 (OP)

>>280593296 (OP)
All these idiots missiong the fact it actually says
>you can just leave it all to
on one side and
>me and forget everything
on the other specifically so it doesn't cover up her breast

>>280593747
Pon no Michi is KINO

>>280593296 (OP)
It's dead when they starts to localize everything, removing all sort of terminology and honorifics.

>>280613595
So right now?

I love watching dekinai seethe at bad translations. Keep it going guys.

>>280614145
You act like people that know Japanese and English don't also point out poor translations.

>>280614856
Pointing out a translation error and writing wall of text complaining why other people don’t make good stuffs for free are different things.

>>280601082
>altchan sprung off from 5ch that wasn't region locked and on a discord server sprung off from Futaba/may with interesting quasi-anonymization features, and everyone's friendly and welcoming there.
kwsk

>>280612401
>take responsibility

>>280593296 (OP)
simulcast "barely acceptable enough to not actively avoid" shit is good enough for most people, and nobody wants to wait

fuck, I remember when it was a big fucking deal for subs to come out for a currently airing show before the next week's episode aired

then the "within a day or two" speedsub wars, then same day, edited simulcast, and finally just giving up and straight ripping/using simulcast shit which is where we are today

>>280593296 (OP)
Great. I wish there are more trash tier subs, and all westerners quit watching anime so Japanese anime companies don’t need to give a fuck about westerner feminists’ opinions on sexy anime girls.

>>280617189
Anon normalfags don't give a shit about the quality of the subs, 80% of them watch dubs

>>280617421
We need to replace dub voice actors with AI dubbing

>>280593296 (OP)
I'm still sad underwater didn't work their sub magic on the BD release of KLK. What they did on the TV release was fantastic.

>>280618697
Although I've not checked these with the blurays, you can download the ass files here and apply them with whatever rips you find. Typically the timings remain the same unless there's edits to the actual episodes.

https://kitsunekko.net/dirlist.php?dir=subtitles%2FKill+la+Kill%2F

>>280616319
https://bbs.punipuni.eu/vaporeon/
https://discord.com/servers/1247170637290803272

>>280594444
Hey anon, I'm gonna start learning jp now, thank you. I have nothing to do all day so I might as well learn the language of the country that I spend so much time consuming their media/culture.

>>280615173
>stuffs
ESL detected, opinion ignored

>>280593296 (OP)

Less people care since most anime fans watch dubbed anyway.