Thread 280743091

Four and a half years later and I'm still not over it. Fuck Isayama and fuck this piece of shit manga.

>>280743149
Yes?

>>280743091 (OP)
SnKeks deserved it

>>280743091 (OP)
Casual fags still ate this slop up and called it a masterpiece despite you guys saying that even they would think the ending is shit
Ending could have been saved with Historia’s baby being Eren, even if he cucks Mikasa
Instead he died never have scored either
A total crying virgin in his last moments

I never got to smell Historia's butthole...

>>280743149
I read all the spoilers first before I consoom anything just so I won't be conned like this.

>>280743248
>somehow never banged any girl when tons of them were all over him or at least showed interest, especially the one he actually liked right from the start
What was the mindset behind this? Was trying to become a wizard?

>>280743382
Eren is innlove with Armin but couldnt tell him the truth because he was afraid of being rejected, so SnK is just one big closet case story

>>280743091 (OP)
I still like Eren.

>>280743091 (OP)
I unironically don't know why /a/nons are seething about it
it was an ok ending, good even. I thought it was going to be way WAY worst
but again, im an animefag

>>280743415
Actually believable

>>280743149
One of the few examples of this being the case.

>>280743493
Same, but I ignore everything post Eren initiating the Rumbling completely.

>>280743091 (OP)
Why do some guy who will die telling his human frustrations about a woman he will never have bothers you so much?

>>280743493
Only worthwhile character in the franchise desu, sucks the ending ruined his character and before anyone say "you only liked Chadren" I was an anime only in 2013 and liked Eren

if he was going to end the manga with a relatively "bleak" message anyway, (strife will continue, eventually new wars will be waged for different reasons), then why did he feel the need to do that avengers shit in the first place? makes no sense.
at least the anime ending credits scene with the eons passing was good.

>>280743744
/a/nons just self-inserted too much into chadren. So when he had his pathetic reaction they felt personally attacked. Normalfags and women loved the ending.

>>280743744
That's not the only issue here and you know it

>>280743091 (OP)
This shit was always garbage normie bait.

>>280743248
What anime-onlys were saying when it was brand new doesn't matter. What actually speaks volumes is how quickly they memoryholed the entire series and never mentioned it again once the hype of consooming the new product wore off. Seriously, when was the last time you saw a normalfag bring up SnK? They didn't really like that shit either, or anything past the first season if we're being honest. They just aren't as obsessively invested as people on here are, so their reaction was quieter and more low-key.

>>280743091 (OP)
It hasn't been 10 years at least yet.

>>280745727
>Seriously, when was the last time you saw a normalfag bring up SnK?
Most /a/nons don't talk to them.
Not that it matters in this case, I hardly see any attack on titan cosplays these days.

>>280743091 (OP)
Literally everyone forgot about this garbage

>>280743091 (OP)
Your guy had a cuck cry before being put down. Lol.

>>280745727
Truly the GoT of anime

>>280743091 (OP)
Lost all interested in AoT as soon as I realised it was taking the walking dead route of becoming increasingly less about the existential dread of being surrounded by inhuman monsters that represent death and man's inhumanity to man as the series went on. Flesh mech suits and chimp titan lmao, and what the fuck is "the rumbling" and why should I care?

>>280745913
Dunno anon, i talked about it some monts ago with three normal fags friends of mine. All of three anime only.
The male one said he didn’t liked it and it was pretty much bullshit.
The two female ones (biologically, troons out!) said they thought it was “decent” but kinda confused, and especially they tought everything involving Mikasa at the end was Lame, especially how she barely evolved at the end of the story.
>mhu EHfags
Sorry for you, they both were also disappointed about Hisu not being Lesbian and how she was treated in the end. So the whole EH argument was out of the picture.

Lets face it, deep inside even normalfags disliked it. They just shroud their shouders and called it “decent” just because of sunk cost fallacy or because they have lower standards… but they kinda forgot about it , probably to don’t think too much about the inconsistencies of the final arc as a whole

I don't see what's so bad, I'm just like him in that regard

>>280743149
the ending isn't even bad. It's established right from the start that Eren is an idiot and a tryhard. Nobody should have expected anything more.

>>280743091 (OP)
Felt like this wanted to have a Death Note ending but Death Note sold it better

>>280749193
Japs love to write edgy and violent stories but most of them end up with "war = bad" and "stop the cycle of hatred". They are basically pussy whipped by their education system to be docile maybe as a punishment for WW2.

personally I liked the part where ymir's prison was actually the fact she was in love with her rapist and she needed to wait 2000 years to see a somewhat-incestuous-but-not-really kiss between a woman and a severed head to finally be free

>>280743259
or her unexpectedly big, fragrant feet

>>280743091 (OP)
Eren and Erwin were the only characters in the series to give a shit about and both were cut down in their prime to prop up retarded pacifists

>>280743091 (OP)
Why are you so emotionally invested in a mid shounen? Because the media told you it's the biggest thing ever? Lmao.

>>280743091 (OP)
You won't be over it for another five and a half years, at least.

it had such a gradual drop in quality that the ending didn't feel shockingly bad at all
kind of the same boat as TG:RE, you get numb to it through chapters and chapters of terrible story.

I think, some people truly fail to grasp just how bad the ending was. I feel like they don't see the full scope of how the rest of the story was retroactively shat on. Take for example this scene from earlier in the manga. It's explained how Eren first came to the realization that the titans were stealing his freedom, and how that hatred of his was ignited. But then 139 comes along, and it turns out Eren killed his own mom. Led to smiling titan directly to her so she could get chomped. Why? Oh, to motivate Eren and make him hate the titans. But with pic related it was already established that he had long despised them. The damage ch. 139 had on what would have been a great series can not be overstated

>>280749775
These threads are made by marketers to farm engagement and keep interest alive.

>>280743091 (OP)
>Not seeing the signs of a shitshow after female titan arc
Kek, to this day I'm glad I dropped it

>>280743149
Unlike in IRL were a person's journey is not as importand as his/her end, since people view a persons life in fragments, a story's ending is much more important, since it's part of the whole package and you cannot say that a story is good because only a portion of it is good, even if the majority of a story is good a bad ending can invalidate the whole thing.

>>280745847
Fuck you, I was going to make that joke.

>>280752029
Shit like this makes me wish I had enough will power to drop it at the Cringevengers panel
When titans of the past showed up to help our faggot cast of Main characters
I felt I was already too far in to drop it

ANNIE!!

>>280749720
Erwin was the best character in the series but his death was the perfect end for him. If he had survived I'm sure he would have eventually gotten character-assassinated like most of the cast was, dying while at your peak in a very satisfying way is the best thing that can happen to you when you are a character with an incompetent writer.

>>280743091 (OP)
You wont get over it, for 10 years at least

>>280743149
While a bad ending doesn't necessarily undermine the enjoyment you had at the time of reading it can still feel like a betrayal from the author and in many ways taint the overall enjoyment you once had in retrospect. It's hard too look forward to reading and enjoying it again when you know it ends on dud.

>>280757170
C-cute...

>>280743149
unironically. many manga has unremarkable ending. there was absolutely no need to bomb this shit that badly.
>muh 10 years at least
>muh thank you kekren for genocide
>muh birdren
>muh cycle of hatred
I don't even want to mention Kekren being the one to murder his own mother and being a slave to some whore with Stockholm syndrome.

>>280756032
Yeah. The “to save the world” was awful.
Even the anime only that just watched that very episode found it awful and cringe.
Doesn’t help that you can clearly see isayama’s art truly regressing by that point. He was never a great artist, but comparing rts and Marley arc art to the last 23 chapters you can tell he lost his will to put effort in it except for chapter 130

>>280743091 (OP)
Eren should have been written out of the story during the historia arc. Isayama was basically done with him at that point.

>>280743091 (OP)
Kek EHfags are the most pathetic posters in /a/ history

>>280743091 (OP)
>the genocider was literally me!

>>280761265
Isayama butchered his own story just to dab on us.

>>280743149
People complain about the ending, but the pathway there was already a shitshow. Eren being a genocider with a shit plan crying about the girl he never reciprocated her advances was just the crown jewel on the pile of dung.

>>280743633
The production values of the anime blindsided you and you were too awestruck by the pretty colors to stop and think about the retarded shit you were seeing

>>280743149
Yes, if I'm eating what seems like the greatest meal ever, and it ends with the chef taking a massive shit on the plate, I'll be furious.

>>280761265
>EMfags are vocally happy about an ending the butchered the whole manga and the two characters they supposedly cares about (eren destroyed and reduced to a genocider chud where nothing but mikasa! Matters and mikasa stagnating into “EREH EREH” until she doens’t even grow out of him even at the very end, where she ‘d rather be burried under the same three and WITH THE FUCKING SCARF rather than with her family and husband)
>somehow the EH are the pathetic ones

>>280761453
I didn't even watch it but apparently they changed things like Armin thanking kekren for genocide and underlined that paradis getting nuked was in far future. those do make things a bit better but it's still cart of shit.

>>280761613
Who was her husband anyway?
Was it ever confirmed for Jean or he wasn’t even given a legitimate confirmation?
Either way, Eren died crying for Mikasa, not wanting another man to plow her for at least ten years
You’d think she died childless and husbandless given her obsession with Ereh
But Isayama had to shit on Eren’s face one last time

>>280762110
At least Isayama was not shithead enough to confirm that it was Jean.

>>280743149
SnK got bad long before (the political route was a mistake) and the final chapter is especially bad due to the composition itself (OP picrel looks like something made by an amateur).

>>280743091 (OP)
>4 and a half years
Fuck.

How differently would it be remembered if there was no epilogue and Mikasa killing Eren was the final panel of the series?

>>280762268
Not!Jean! Is so lucky…

>>280762110
You guys are really incels huh

>>280743091 (OP)
only people who didn't like it were shitskins that identified with eren

Remember when this was just a psuedo medieval series about fighting giants with zip lines? That was a good.. what 7 episodes?

>>280752250
theres a ranma fic I like with an attrocious ending but the entire ending can be sensibly removed from the fic and it turns into one of my top five pure ranma fics.

>>280762359
Turn on your monitor

>>280743091 (OP)
Still the greatest anime of all time despite Isayama literally being bullied by the elite to change the ending. That is exactly what happened btw.

>>280743248
So much of the plot is wrong but you complain about this.
Tell me you're a self-inserter without telling me you're a self-insert.

Yes, the ending was trash, but That's obviously because
>Worm just came out of nowhere and was never explained
>Suddenly, Ymir obeys Sieg, not Eren while it was always the case that the person who owned the founder, not the person with royal blood controls it and the latter is just a key, never explained why this changed
>Ending just felt lackluster: they just “Beat the Eresaurus”. After such a build up people were expecting something more and some great revelation at the end.
>“Ymir can be free by watching Mikasa kill Eren” felt like a really stupid thing
>Suddenly temporal parodxes

It just felt weird and full of plot holes but your complaint is
>Muh my self-insert doesn't get to shag my waifu... this is horrible!

It would've just introduced another plot hole, because Eren was in Marley when Historia became pregnant. It was canonically established that Eren had been in Marly for 10 months before the attack on Liberio so he could not have been the father unless he literally just secretly snuck into Paradis once for that and then went back which makes no sense.

This dumb implausible ship only existed because of dumb self-inserting faggots like you who want your self-insert to shag your favorite waifu and that's it. There was never any indication and it was just logistically impossible.

>>280762325
Maybe a bit better? I think people would still be unsatisfied since doing that leaves a mountain behind about Ymir (which is still true even with the ending we got desu) and other characters.

I guess in this case it would be better not knowing the characters internal motivations, when learning that leads to Isayama shitting all over his previous work

>>280743382
Yes, Eren actually being in love with Mikasa all that time too was stupid and there was no indication of it and he always seemed to just consider Mikasa annoying.

Honestly, it would've been better if it was just a one-sided crush from Mikasa which would still make sense with the idea that Mikasa had to kill Eren to free Ymir because it's purely about Mikasa being in love with Eren.

Other than that: Eren not banging anyone is pretty simple: He wasn't interested in it. Hard to imagine for thirsty loser virgins but not everyone, especially people like Eren who are more worried about saving the world is a hormone controlled loser who wants to have sex with everyone.

>>280762110
Jean

>>280763029
Ok, while I agree their relationship was never a major focus in the series, and definitely should not have been the major aspect thst the ending is centered around ,because that comes out of fucking nowhere. But also this whole idea that Eren never really cared about Mikasa, and is only annoyed by her is complete nonsense.

Eren only ever shows his affection in small ways, and I never expected their relationship to ever advance because both Mikasa, and especially Eren are super emotionally stunted from trauma. Eren is only really prickly towards Mikasa because he has an inferiority complex about her always looking after, and protecting him, and being basically better then him at everything. Despite that it is still pretty clear that he loves her at the very least like family at multiple points in the show.
I feel like everyone who argues that Eren genuinely doesn't like Mikasa must have a hole in their memory of the S2 finale, where they basically have as close to a conventional romantic moment as you can get without kissing right before Eren triggers the founder for the first time.

Mikasa re-iterates to Eren just how much he means to her, and how him giving her his scarf way back when, was the most impactful moment of her life; while Eren responds with something to the effect "I'll wrap that scarf around you as many times as you want" which for Erens emotionally stunted ass pretty much means "I'll love you forever". With that context I feel like anyone who thought Villain Arc Eren was being completely genuine when he said he hated Mikasa is either completely delusional, or some kind of brain donor. Having said that I didn't expect their romance to develop any more than that, and I certainly didn't expect their relationship to somehow be the key to freeing Ymir, and I absolutely hate that. Especially because trying to use it as a parallel to Ymir, and King Fritz. I don't care if Eren committed, he's not anywhere near as evil as King Fritz.

>>280763604
All that stuff is because Eren has a sibling rivalry complex with Mikasa, it's awkward and lowkey incestuous to make it requited romantic on his side. Mikasa viewed Eren differently from the start. Also with the whole "I'll wrap your scarf forever" thing, that's not romantic; it's analagous to his promising to Armin that they'd see the sea together.

>>280743091 (OP)
5 more years until Eren hands us over Mikasa

>>280763671
For one thing, the fact they have that sibling rivalry/complex relationship should be a dead giveaway. This is a Japanese shounen, and the Japanese absolutely love that trope, and the romantic implications of that trope. Regardless of whether it's awkward or low key incestuous, the foundations were there.

I don't know how many sibling relationships you've seen, but nothing about how that scene in the S2 finale is presented as making that moment look platonic. Mikasa is almost certainly not coming at that moment with platonic energy. The author was still playing will they won't they, so they don't come right out and confess, but that's basically what that moment is. Eren isn't retarded, it's pretty obvious what Mikasa feels for him especially after what was just said, his line about the scarf is an affirmation of her feelings.

Regardless of all this, let's say you're correct, that doesn't really invalidate my point, that whether it's romantic or strictly familial/platonic, that moment very clearly drives home that these two definitely love each other, despite Eren basically being a tsundere to Mikasa all the time. My main point was people are insane if they thought Eren either doesn't care about, or hates Mikasa. I thought it was pretty obvious he was full of shit when he beats up Armin, and says he hates her, but tons of people try to argue that he really did, and obviously always had.

>>280764094
I don't think Isayama had intentions of making Eren reciprocate Mikasa's feelings though. He gave several interviews saying they'd grow apart and that Eren didn't view her that way. And the problem with just saying "but these scenes ~seemed romantic~ to me" is that you could easily say the same thing with Eren and Armin (or make an even stronger case, I'd say). Even the table scene makes it clear Mikasa and Armin are of equal importance to him. So unless you're saying Eren had feelings for Armin along with Mikasa I'd say your argument is weak.

>>280764094
also lol
>Eren isn't retarded, it's pretty obvious what Mikasa feels for him especially after what was just said, his line about the scarf is an affirmation of her feelings.
This line was not a confession unless you think a 9 year old saving a stranger or not regretting it is romantic. He rejected her kiss as well so not sure why you think that's romantic.

>>280764341
Agreed, people often point at scenes to either Eren loving Historia or Mikasa but I always felt that all of that applied more to Armin.

Armin is really the only person, aside from that one scene with Mikasa with the Laughing Titan that Eren genuinely showed any warm affection for.

I was hoping for the ménage à troi ending though.

>>280761572
>and it ends with the chef taking a massive shit on the plate

what if the chef was an oppai loli?

>>280743091 (OP)
>hurr the ending is bad because my self-insert is a cuck!
Imagine having Eren at all as you fav character lol

>>280743091 (OP)
this is correct, the anime ended so bad that no one talks about this series anymore, not even the fans
if the author didn't know how to end the series, he had other alternatives, such as leaving an open ending to be picked up years later, taking a break for a couple of years inventing an illness to think things better
dead ip

>>280764341
My guy, my argument was never "Eren and Mikasa have a very clear and obvious romance, anyone who disagrees is wrong"

My argument was "Anyone who thinks Eren hates or doesn't care about Mikasa is illiterate"

I've stated multiple times thst you could chalk up their relationship to being just familial or platonic love if that's how you interpret it. I'm not even disagreeing with you.

>>280764629
Eren is the MC and the whole story is built around him, imagine being so emotionally ill that you don't sympathize with the main character.

>>280764629
Eren is/was the only interesting character with depth since Isayama wasn't good at writing character backstories and by accident Eren being the main character was the most developed and fleshed-out. Everyone else is pretty one-note, even major characters like Armin and Mikasa got clipped of all intrigue post-timeskip and the noobs were utterly dull. Reiner's suicidal shit isn't interesting. By cucking Eren's character in favor of the weak by contrast cast, he ruined his own story.

>>280764876
>My argument was "Anyone who thinks Eren hates or doesn't care about Mikasa is illiterate"
Well you replied to me and I never said that.
I just said there was really nothing up till that point that implied that Eren had feelings for Mikasa and given how obvious the other direction was, if he had they would probably be going out already.

Eren “Ohh no... I've always been deeply in love with Mikasa.” just came out of nowhere whereas Mikasa saying the same thing feels fairly obvious and everyone could see it.

Especially because in all the other cases it was kind of obvious:
>Everyone could see Falco was in love with Gabi
>Reiner at least lusting after Historia was obvious
>Bertold in love with Annie
>Armin due to Bertold
>Ymir in love with Historia
>Hans in love with Titans

>>280764995
You're insane. The title is full of highly compelling backstories that deftly connect into the main plot and every character, except for Mikasa feels like the protagonist of his own story. Even Kenny's backstory was amazing and really interesting and suddenly explained so many of his motivations for doing things. Or Sieg's backstory before he blows himself up seeing his side of his relationship with his parents and that side of Grischa, it was so good and it really explains why he thought Eren had been brainwashed by Grischa.

>>280743633
>it was an ok ending, good even
Do you what critical thinking is and are you capable of it?
Do you ever process the information you've been presented?

>>280743149
An ending being bad enough to ruin a whole story in retrospect isn't common, most bad endings are just meh and people move on. To fuck up things at the level AoT and OnK did is memorable.

>>280765677
I mean I just finished Valkyrie Drive Mermaid and it was still a better ending than that shit.
It was really better than most titles, it's more that the plot of Attack on Titan was so good and so planned throughout it's run that people were expecting something far greater.

It was simply terrible compared to everything up till Eren started the Rumbling.

What's the normie/general opinion about SNK ending?

>>280762359
bodied that freak

>>280743149
A poor ending really ruins the entire story. To be honest, I suspected that Eren wouldn't be allowed to get away with genocide...But what irked me was that he totally jobbed in the last fight.
I don't mind him being defeated, but at least have him be honestly beaten.
I also cannot believe that NONE of the cast died while fighting literally every Titan ever at once.

>>280743149
It does kinda ruin it. Made the entire journey a massive waste of time.

>>280766362
I loved the part where reiner was fighting the giant worm and then it just disappeared off-screen and no one ever mentioned it ever again.

I watched the anime until the end of season 2. Is there any point in continuing? The story at that point seemed way too boring to keep watching. And all characters but maybe Mikasa were annoying.

>>280766703
I feel Reiner and Annie should have died for their blood treachery, it's insane that they survived and got away with everything.

>>280766870
How do people like Mikasa? She's boring, annoying and one-note.
>She's protective of Eren!
To an annoying and stalkerish extent.
>She's badass!
Not really compared to Levi who is way cooler.

>>280743091 (OP)
Anime/manga often has bad endings. You have to accept a partial or incremental appreciation for these stories. There are multiple points in AOT that you can do a cutoff on depending if you are a mangafag or animefag. For the anime I say just cut it off at S1 or S2, but the manga you can go all the way to chapter 123 iirc when the rumbling starts and get a satisfying ending. It's a shame because had Isayama not been a massive faggot who clearly listened to his faggot editors then we could of gotten one of the most kino manga of all time. Imagine a final chapter after Eren has genocided the world and does a walkthrough of all the major locations the story took place in on his way back to Historia as a remembrance of the entire series, ending on him holding their child and some speech about him lamenting the price of it all. Would have been super kino, instead we got some gay talk no jitsu from the Mong. Alas, I have given my schizophrenia to be able to enjoy any portion of this story at all and no anon can take that from me

>>280767254
I did not like her. She was just not as annoying as the rest because she wasn't sobbing about some sad backstory of hers all the time.

Mikasa is a cute!

>>280766870
Desu if you found S2 boring you won't like what's next.

>>280761303
what a happy cuck.

>>280762441
This post exposes the moral failing of white people that they'd let themselves get genocided for "the greater good", if anything.

>>280743091 (OP)
>some friends stopped wanting to hang out with me around this time
damn, has it really been four and a half years

>>280743091 (OP)
hack author

>>280767190
Annie is a miracle of the universe

Any anniebros know where to find this full doujin? I can only seem to find a short snippet online.

>>280743149
In this case the ending actually ruined the series.

>>280769511
It's still amazing to re-read from the start until it gets bad though, even when knowing how it wound end.
It was downright impressive until it got bad and the bad ending is really only in comparison to what a masterpiece it was before that point.

>>280769329
Rumor has it this was drawn by Isayama

Why did school castes Eren bite school castes Historia's head?

>>280769695
Isayama would never draw Eren having sex with a woman

>>280767190
I don't mind them surviving but it's insane to me that reiner went from being half a step away from killing himself out of massive guilt to a joke-cracking lettersniffer in a year or so.

>>280743091 (OP)
You tell em EHsis! That ending was TRASH! And not because our ship didn't happen, cuz we not shippers unless it's convenient!

>>280743149
thank you for the summary.
Tho the manga is bad since way before that

>>280770147
Sniifff
Ahh, SNIFFF
Bring me... ODORSTORIA
SNIFFF

Do you skip the first 10 episodes of season 3 when you rewatch this?

>>280770669
No

>>280770669
>rewatch
now why would I do this to myself

this is what happens when the entirity of the final arc is a self-insert power fantasy.

Eh...i dont continue to consoom things from sunk cost fallacy...if it goes to shit it's gone to shit and that's where I stop...
AoT went to TOTAL garbage about uhhh 35 or so chapters into the manga. I scoffed at the anime existing. It was always going to be garbage.

Sorry all of you who can't let shit go and just keep pushing through piles of horse shit...or even see something is trash in the first place.

>>280743091 (OP)
I droped when eren turned Titan, so i don't know what's going on

>>280771543
honestly I stopped taking it seriously after that happened. before that I was actually impressed with how mature it is for a manga/anime, but after he turned into a titan I just accepted that it would devolve into typical shounen dullness.

>>280771663
And you were wrong.
I have no idea how giants that have healing powers existing is any sillier than that a human being can manifest such a giant at that point.

In any case, up till the end it was one of the most well written stories with some of the most interesting and large cast of characters.

Also, the source material really handled that differently and had a different order of events. Eren turned into a Titan far earlier there because the entire training arc was a flashback only shown much later then, but it wasn't obvious at all in the source material that Eren's Titan was actually being controlled by Eren. He was legitimately dead for 3 chapters or something until it was revealed at the end that when the Titan died Eren was inside of him while the television series made it look immediately obvious that it was Eren.

>>280771042
Power fantasies are good, ending it with a cuck fantasy is what sucks

Nobody could explain to me why ending is bad, guess shonen really is meant for little retarded boys and not adults like myself huh.

>>280768005
Luckily genocides were done a total of 0 times in the real world.

As awful as the manga was I still look fondly to /snk/ anons.

>>280743091 (OP)
You are literally worse and more of a whiny fucking bitch than Eren.

>>280743149
Yeah.

>>280775007
Eren at least did something right instead of just whining.

>>280773398
The way Mikasa just decapitated her lover like a psycho was a bit much

Did Eren even break the cycle after all this? Total genocide was probably the only answer.

>>280773398
>tons of proper essays and explanations of why it is bad without the infamous “10 years at least” pannel being mentioned
>hur dur you have no arguments to say the ending le bad

You are a troll or genuinely someone with shit taste

>>280776646
I don't care about opinions, give an objective undilited answer of why the ending is bad, RIGHT NOW.

>>280776698
>tons of plot contrivances and plot armor in the final arc. Literally an army of shifter cannot kill a single character when even a pure titan used to be a deadly threat
>everyone is flanderized into oblivion: connie exist just to be the funny guy after his small arc, annie exist just yo be armong’s trophy,armong is reduced to an edgeless character , mikasa stagnated hard , historia is none existant, Reiner ‘s big development ended up being wrestiling a worm and than sniffing a letter, eren ‘s whole character and agency destroyed just so he can be the “evil incel chud that really wanted to destroy the world just for some asian pussy” removing all the pressure of being genocided and being forced into such an awful solution because of how the world was going to destroy them and him being against sacrificing his friends/family
>infinite gas and blades
>asspulls like the flying titan, at this point just have Falco , gaby and annie on the plane since the beginning instead of wasting time with the most predictable and lame twist possible just for a big Avengers moment
>the art regressed a lot in the last 20 chapters, you can see a massive downgrade compared to Uprising, RTS and Marley arc
>retcons after retcons
>”thank you to becoming a mass murder for our sake”, “it was mikasa all along” and “she was in love with king fritz”
Must i continue?

>>280777066
You posted the opposite of what I asked for.
>>tons of plot contrivances and plot armor in the final arc.
I stopped reading here by the way.

Mikasa and Armin ruined the series, just as the plotCHADS foretold

>>280777112
Listen anon, i’m not gonna waste my vacation tearing down a shitty written ending for arguing with a retard

Here a proper essay aboyt why snk’s final arc is bad

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-xBHK3qJGabmaWKznfUpLO7l_zlxY-0J/view?usp=drivesdk

Up to you if agreeing or not

>>280777200
In the future, please refrain of quoting others for your arguments like you did in your previous post. And press return key half as often as you're used to. Thanks.

>>280762993
This. I really liked how pathetic he was in the end, the scene with him crying over not wanting Mikasa to move on felt very human and something anyone who was in a long relationship experienced. A breath of fresh air when it comes to MC magically changing and becoming someone else as they age, Eren only learned to fake it.

>>280777218
You're in every SNK thread being annoying and sealioning, stop. Nobody thinks you're clever.

>>280777639
Yes, I love SNK and I love talking about it, what are you going to do about it, bitchboy?

>>280777652
SNK sucks, get over it, you have no arguments besides "I love it so it's good" while dismissing people's well thought out reasoning for not liking it. There's a reason the only SNK threads on this board anymore that aren't about some female character's stinky feet are about how much this shit and its ending was a steaming pile of hot shit.

>>280777732
My argument is that you cannot provide a clean, undiluted explanation of why it sucks.

Jean married Pieck you bitches.

>>280743149
Yes. That's generally how writing works. When you tell a story, you basically make a number of implicit promises to whoever it is you're telling it to that the things that you're saying are going to add up, make sense, and be satisfactory. When you tell a story and the ending is bad, you broke the promise. All the investment in listening to your story was a waste, and that failure to meet the expectations that you set colors the whole experience, both the first time and on subsequent reads.

>>280770193
Yeah, I already knew, just wanted to get some (you)'s to be sincere.

>>280743091 (OP)
I genuinely do not understand how anyone could like this genocidal shithead past season 2
whiny faggot got the humiliation he deserved
too bad his little shithole filled with monsters didn't get erased
can't believe the entire series happened because a dumb bitch developed stockholm syndrome and got super powers from some transparent tapeworm, it's so stupid

These type of manga doesn't deserve to be read, you just take what you need and continue the story in your head

attack on titans was never good

>>280743091 (OP)
No way it was that long ag-
>it was
Fucking hell.

>>280743091 (OP)
Kanokari author loved the end

>>280779290
Drawing an image for the ending doesn't mean he loved it, it just means he drew it because he works under the same publisher.

>>280767714
S T I N KY !

Annie is perfect

4 years later and people are still mad?

>>280780828
The stinkiest yes but the most adorable!

Does anyone seriously believe the whole "Ymir had Stockholm Syndrome" excuse?

>>280745536
Why? Because it was popular?

>>280781958
Very based

>>280782679
Littlekasa is best kasa

>>280782948
It is a lame excuse, but could’ve worked if it was properly foreshadowed and played an effective part in the story.
Instead it was literally pulled from isayama’s ass last minute just to justify his “it was Mikasa all along”.
We could’ve get some “cave of Plato” kino or better explanation about ymir’s psyche instead of turning everything into a lame woman moment
>hu but it was realistic because human le selfish and le irrational
No,it was lame and pulled last minute. Everything else with enough exploration would’ve served better!

>>280743149
not necessarily, but SnK has a next-level bad ending that retroactively makes the whole series shit (even without it the Rumbling arc was a mess anyway)

>>280781958
No way her tits are that big.

>>280782002
I'll be mad for 10 years at least

>>280743091 (OP)
I only watched the anime and I didn't like how fast paced the story was, felt like characters have completely changed after each season

>>280787041
Manga is better.

>>280782679
>>280783397
SMELLY! PEEYEW!

>Attack on samurai
Attack on Titan

>>280789001
>Attack on samurai
What is that?

>>280789099
Duh…

>>280743259
Reiner...

>>280743091 (OP)
The ending is excellent, maybe you should stop downloading your opinions from reddit. Doing so will also make you less likely to troon out.

>>280743091 (OP)
why didnt he fuck Mikasa if he was that in love with her?

>>280790630
Isayama forgot

>>280743091 (OP)
You bitches are still not over this? SnK was one of the most overrated pieces of shit when it came out and you SnKfags got more loud and obnoxious when the anime aired. Nvm that the plot is shit, the characters are shit, or that Isayama was a legitimate hack that got real lucky that his slop series somehow caught on.

You pathetic faggots defended him and his shit stain of a series with mental gymnastics for so long that when the ending came and delivered the trvke that EVEYONE ELSE ALREADY KNEW, somehow SnK was ruined when in fact it was never good in the first place.

When will you insufferable faggots admit the truth of the matter? Y'all just as cucked as the narusaku shipper fags.

>>280743229
Also this. Totally deserved.

>>280766870
not really, especially if you dont like the characters. Theres a reason why people divide AoT into "before the basement" and "after the basement"

>>280743091 (OP)
Its a solid series with some ocassionally very awesome action choreography that the anime really brings to life, when its budgeted to do so. Plot wise, it begins falling off quite hard after the basement. The attack titan being capable of psychic time travel invites a ton of contrived plot points that the author did not navigate very well - and thats introduced along side all this global political intrigue that is a bit outside of the scope of the series. Still, there are some pretty cool moments action and plot wise after that.

I have a big gripe with the people that insist the ending is what ruined the series and I would point them to page related as the real moment the series lost me. This is the scene where Armin, the voice of reason for our story, is brought to tears by Zeke's Sterilization plan. This scene is exactly where I stepped back and said: I do not like this author's voice. On a moral level, I think depicting a plan to sterilize any ethnic group as a noble choice is absolutely fucking repulsive. On a narrative level, the fact that they're talking about sterilizing THEMSELVES and treating that as a good end goal is wildly dissonant and out of sync with the start of the series. This scene really caught me off guard and as I read the rest, I couldnt help but wonder if the success of the series changed the author's beliefs. We started out trapped in the walls with these kids and endured disappointment with them as we found out that the outside world isnt that great either, but this level of self destruction just comes completely out of left field to me and is really hard to reconcile with Armin's arc. I know him nuking a harbor is supposed to be the reason the plan appeals to him, but him doing that in the first place doesnt really make sense either.

>>280791244
>time travel invites a ton of contrived plot points that the author did not navigate very well - and thats introduced along side all this global political intrigue that is a bit outside of the scope of the series
side effects of ripping off muvluv

>>280791244
Bruh, among the many things wrong with Armong, i always thought hewas just bullshitting Yelena and his cry was nothing more than a ruse so she would trust them (or at least lower her guard to him)

>>280783685
They must be big to feed GODmin

>>280791244
Wasn't he just acting here? I've always thought so. Still, I agree that everything post basement is a slow downfall, besides some cool or just beautiful moments.

>>280743149
I expected mediocre. I figured Armin would help Marley and there'd be some dopey peace ending.
But Isayama went way farther than that, assassinating a bunch of his own characters, pissing on things he'd written just 20-30 chapters ago, made Eren into a fool, and then decided to punch the audience in the gut one last time with an epilogue that proved all of them wrong.
SnK's quality was always a bit inconsistent but it had some genuinely high points, ending it like he did was totally unpleasant from any angle. There's bad and there's insulting.

>>280794311
>SnK's quality was always a bit inconsistent
It was always peak until the timeskip, could have been a masterpiece.

>>280777762
>Gives many reasons
>No it's not distilled enough
Go find the philosopher's stone nigger

>>280743091 (OP)
You lost tranny

>>280743149
It was basically like most Stephen King stuff that falls apart in the last act of the book or series in that one case. Making a landing is a hard thing. Eren going completely against being a devil to make a world for his love and friends sucked. The worm being beaten offscreen sucked. His complete misuse of abilities that would allow him to remake the pact and world after he cleansed it as new god sucked.

>>280762359
lmao bodied that freak

>>280762551
Why? What will that prove?

>>280797538
I should make an updated collage. It's at 8.9 now on imdb.

>>280797748
>of abilities that would allow him to remake the pact and world after he cleansed it as new god sucked.
What pact? The curse of Ymir?

>>280795149
You sure? Because I remember so many panels with the character drawn with no background whatsoever and don't tell me it was for impact.

>>280743149
Yes. A bad ending ruins the whole journey and make it impossible to enjoy the re-reading. Case in point Domestic Girlfriend

>>280743091 (OP)
media illiteracy makes all the blood drain from my clit/dick :(

>i Don't wAnt THAt
I hope Isayama dies a painful death. That was such a terrible way to kill his character.

>>280748954
>writing a bad ending is ok because you wrote a bad character in the first place
Maybe that's just called bad writing?

I lost interest in the show when they put a character upside down with a funnel on his ass.

It's horrible, I can't argue, but Vinland Saga will get its ending in a couple of days, and I promise you the ending will be even worse.

>>280799676
That was a noble man getting his just dues for taking advantage of the hard work and sacrifices by the citizens.

>>280799317
>clit/dick
which one is it

>>280791244
Armin was only pretending to be on board with the sterilization plan, but I don't blame you for not knowing because it's portrayed very sloppily. It's like Yams wants you to believe everything that Armin does is part of some super intelligent badass plan even though he became borderline retarded near the end

>>280743091 (OP)
lmao

There was a spoilered pic posted in /snk/ like 6-8 or so years ago of Ymir eating out Historia. Anyone remember what I'm talking about?

One of the worst things about the ending was it pretending that Eren was an idiot that didn't know any better, when we literally see Eren arguing with armin the supposed smartest character in the show, and armin have 0 response because he knows that Eren is completely right, but then the ending just pretend that Eren is a dumb teenager to absolve him of any responsibility and whitewash him.

>>280804311
No it's because he's the attack titan. The attack titan never gives up and always attacks. It's the same reason Eren as a kid would constantly fight the bullies despite not being able to win. He's eternally driven and has to do it.