Thread 280905902

I've put off watching Lain for a year now as I couldn't get into it and finally finished it today, what are you guy's interpretations?

The message I got is, what everyone remembers is the 'truth'.

>>280905902 (OP)
I’m in the middle of watching it right now so I’ll come back to this thread later

>>280905902 (OP)
Transbian icon

Idk I just remember not being confused by it at all and thinking that anybody who thinks this is deep must be retarded. Don't remember what it's about thoughbeit.
Also it stops being good halfway through when the pacing shits the bed and it gets weird for the sake of it.
Anyways, there is a website where you can play the game on your browser for free. Apparently it's better than the anime but I've put off playing it for years to browse 4chan instead

>>280906002
i hate you

>>280906113
I was kinda hoping for an Akira like plot after the halfway point, but it was more subtle, which stands out on it's own, the grey surprised me though

It's good
Lain is good
I love lain
>>280906113
You got filtered

>>280906784
let's all love lain

>>280905902 (OP)
That is a very cute Lain.

It's easily the worst out of the Yoshitoshi Abe trilogy

its funny how famous lain it is despite being so confusing
the aesthetics saved it

>>280908145

I liked the contrasting sections, the father laughing his ass off at his pc and being pokerfaced regularly

or the part where everyone just stopped interacting with Lain and just stared at her

>>280908787
i like the end when lain becomes rude and evil

the aesthetics for lain make for great amvs. and the general pathos or whatever about losing yourself in the internet is something i can relate to.

Honestly, Lain is convoluted and confusing as hell.

The artstyle is really amazing and cute, but that is the biggest positive it's got going.

The ending, as I understood it, seems strangly nihilistic and sort of seems to say "Let's just all kill ourselves because then we can't harm each other anymore," like Lain did (at least in irl, not the wired). Which I just cannot agree with, as cool as it was.

One other thing I really enjoyed about it was how it expresses (the rather simple observation) people being different in online spaces because they might not carry any accountability there. Or if you want to get a bit more technical with it, they act without "superego." Whilst a simple concept, I did find this thought provoking.

Hbu anon?

>>280910326
i always saw the ending to mean that we'd be better off as a society without the blurring of the lines between the wired and reality. aka protocol seven, aka 5g, aka every fucking person in a civilized society being connected to the internet 24/7. it's been a long time since i watched it in full, but i did not see the ending the way you saw it, it was oddly optimistic and frankly brilliant. id have to rewatch it to fully express my thoughts though.

>>280910326

I think whether we are in the wired or in the real world, we'll find a way to harm others so there's no point in choosing a side.

Superego, as how I see it, is based on the person and the anonimity, people act different online as it's just easier to portray yourself as someone different. Combine that with having no consequences and people tend to act more immoral.

>>280907248
No, you!

>>280910521

I think the problem about the lines being blurred is the influence the wired can have on reality. Based on information you perceive online you might think or behave differently and that's something I have experienced myself.

The things you read online shouldn't have an impact on you as much as they do.

>>280910619
thank you for this image

>>280910726
also hardcore escapism is something i do because of the internet. i do not exist outside of it and when i do i dont feel 'as myself' as when im on it.

Most people who watch Lain don't understand it, and most people who say it's 3deep5u understand it even less.
It's messy because it's telling a narrative about a divine being of the internet, at a time when the world wide web was in it's infancy.
There are many interpretations you can take away, and most contain differing degrees of truth that even the writers could not comprehend.
As with most complex sci-fi, It's not for everyone. This isn't me looking down on people who didn't enjoy, Aesop's fables are simple stories yet contain deeper truth's within them and have been beloved for millennia.
If you never felt the urge to rewatch Lain after watching it, it's probably not for you. If you did feel the urge, then enjoy coming to your own conclusions.

>>280906002
how trannies find Lain to be an icon is such a peculiar irony, especially those who unironically chant "let's all love lain"

>>280910326
>"Let's just all kill ourselves because then we can't harm each other anymore," like Lain did (at least in irl, not the wired).
you are assuming that Lain ever existed in the real world and isn't a being of the wired

>>280910726
You're welcome! Have another one.

>>280910871
>how trannies find Lain to be an icon is such a peculiar irony
she's terminally online and an anime girl, that's all, most of them havent even watched the series

>>280910761
I do the opposite, I've looked too much at geopolitics to have it influence my life, so I've decided to escape from them instead.

>>280910834
Thank you!

>>280910871
Could you elaborate on Lain never existing in the real world?

>>280910907
Thanks!
This depicts her innocence very well!


The other part I found odd was when her sister went non-verbal, after colliding with herself in the hallway, I don't get why she went morse code afterwards?

>>280911117
why do you want everything explained for you? as he said, you should arrive at your own conclusions. rewatch it. i always tell people to pay attention to the color symbolism for one aspect of analysis, but there's so many vectors you could go off and come to different conclusions each time. having somebody else explain things you dont understand is antithetical to art.

>>280911186
I didn't think of that perspective and was prying for more.

The conclusion I came to was that the world doesn't need Lain to exist. As she proved by vanishing from it.

I finished it today so I don't think I'll rewatch it anytime soon.

>>280911117
>Could you elaborate on Lain never existing in the real world?
As >>280911186 says, it is better to come to your own conclusions/realizations by rewatching (even better with a new perspective)
But for that point specifically, Lain was created as a part of Protocol 7 and yes >>280911292 that is reasonable conclusion but there is more depth as to why Lain erases herself

>>280911605
MIKU SEEEEEEEX

>>280911884
>present day
>present time
>ho ho ho ho

A lot of people interpret Lain too literally. It's about how the internet makes us everywhere and everyone. It imbues us with godlike perception that creates multiple forms of ourselves within us. Technology is erasing the boundary between each other yet simultaneously detaching us from human intimacy.

>>280911921
>she sees you when you're sleeping
>she knows when you're awake
>she knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake
poor Arisu

>>280911392
Thank you, I hope I will find that depth when I rewatch Lain, I can only theorise about why a being like Lain just shouldn't exist.

>>280911605
Uwooo RTX upgrade!

>>280912016
>Technology is erasing the boundary between each other yet simultaneously detaching us from human intimacy.
You've conveyed this so perfectly, advancing technology is a great thing yet it has so many drawbacks as well, AI as a big example.

>>280912030
People should be good out of their own, not out of fear of exposure.
I feel like Alice got the short end of the stick by being 'helped' by Lain (not forgetting her), and it's a good thing Lain noticed and remedied that.
Anons, I'll be logging off, thank you all for your perspectives and images. Let's all love Lain.

>>280905902 (OP)
That's close to what I got, that what we perceive and what is real are functionally the same. Cute Lain.

>message
There's no distinction between who you are and persona, one becomes the mask.

Am I crazy or did Lain get a random burst of popularity within the past few years? I swear it was never discussed or brought up this much 10 years ago as it is nowadays.
Not that I'm complaining.

This thread is the proof that zoomers are literal retards with no reading comprehension.

I mean, did you fuckers even watched the anime?

>>280915686
i am complaining. but it's because the opening song blew up on tiktok in like 2021. now all the normalfags know and like lain. ive seen multiple lain car stickers in my city.

>>280915753
okay smartass if you're going to judge every person itt's interpretation at once, explain in full detail the plot of lain for us to understand. otherwise shut the fuck up

>>280910962
>that's all
I'm not trans, nor do I particularly care. But I've seen essay level screenshots on this topic and there's a lot more too it than that.
Maybe people here know what I'm talking about. But it's more than just a couple of famous posts from one of the boards here, I've seen the topic extensively discussed elsewhere.
Lain is definitely an icon for many of them and that poster is right.

>>280916006
I think I know the screenshots you mean but I never thought they were good write ups so I didn't save them. Just focusing on themes that are never explicitly addressed and only exist as part of the aesthetic.

>>280912260
>it's an Anonymous has a big think episode
Another tool in the toolbox of civilization which has for function to make angels out of beasts. It's been steadily killing us for long time but death is a requirement for change. I can tell you enjoy the fruits of transformations to our ways of life. We're only trying to suffer less and human existence is super cursed. Our world has never been right for a single day since the start, make no mistake about that.

I have finally stumbled upon a solid argument for the preservation of our individualities. FUCK OFF GENDO.

I want to pass on my destiny to a stronger child who better at being human than i am. I doubt the end of us will be the end of our struggle so i'm not afraid of my disappearance and anyway has someone ever created something that doesn't point straight back at him? Your generative programs are trained to mimick us and build to interact with us in ways that we understand, it's not possible for them to become anything but us. I think.

>>280917689
I will stop posting immediately and this always helps teh situation. Please continue the thread.

>>280917869
its okay, im a schizo too. take your meds you fag. no more to say about this

>>280912016
>A lot of people interpret Lain too literally
As opposed to inferring notions that the show only touches upon in passing?

Lets all love Lain

>>280905902 (OP)
Lain trolling Eiri was badass

I want to be Lain's papa and spoil and dote on her

I'm grateful for all the anime and manga i've discovered thanks to you but also for the many off-topic crash events into the threads i was browsing making me consider random new thoughts. And old Lain threads listening to cyberia bootlegs 17 years ago.
I'm a big fan of off-topic on 4chan so here's a video i enjoyed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZX6awZq5Z0

>>280920456 Thoughts of Lain's papa rescues her from egodeath depression at the end and it's a sweet scene.

>alien lain = le sexual lain or....ALEIN for short >;D
wtf does this mean? why did she become an alien?

Just commenting all of the LAIN OST's rule.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lda28abQ48U&list=PL2C73B9F1C0C6B1DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlNVuxZFfH8&list=PL34B61BA21EBBB166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdBOzFNz2mU&list=PLEFB511FF1160F31F

Also, Wasei "JJ" Chikada, who plays the DJ JJ in the anime and does more than a few songs for it, regularly does Lain-inspired live sets on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wo0Mfs3914&list=RD-wo0Mfs3914&start_radio=1

Despera when

>>280921420
it wont even be good when it comes out. the conditions are gone. nakamura ryuutarou is dead. it's over. i'd like to believe otherwise but as it stands it will either not come out at all, or be dogshit

>>280916006
The only reason this is even the case is because Lain is a series about identity and people who have been tricked into thinking they're trans glom onto any fictional character with even a hint of relatability in that regard, immediately sucking it into their area of ownership, regardless of how obnoxious and sad it gets.

>>280921451
sad but true

>>280921267
Idk about what exactly you are referring to, but as I remember the whole Lain first seeing and then being an alien was because the way people had started to perceive her from thereon was as though she was an alien due to her change in personality (the blurring of the real and wired Lain).

>>280921489
but would someone like arisu be able to perceive her as alien lain, or is it more metaphorical for how she feels?

>>280921451
This sorts of ownerships are because nobody else wants to touch the thing after the ugly crowd has licked it. They each are doing the same thing as any fan would do.

>>280921661
>this sorts of ownerships are

>>280921420
2027 apparently

>>280905902 (OP)
My interpretation is that I want to fuck Lain.

I don't understand why Lain attacked the two glowagents or what she did to them. It's the last moment i don't get.

>>280921420
2077

>>280922240
Same

>>280922489
Lay off the soup Lain humans don't hibernate.

>>280910326
Lain is not that convoluted when think about it. I mean the Wired and what happens when people connect over it, basically entails the change of civilization being interconnected than ever and has since predicted the future of everything from VTubers,AI, Conspiracies, Rationality and Sanity of being in between both realms. It's basically a timeless tale of being without online to being online.

>>280915753
No they just watch 40 second clips on TikTok and say they are fans and know everything lol.

>>280910326
>The ending, as I understood it, seems strangly nihilistic and sort of seems to say "Let's just all kill ourselves because then we can't harm each other anymore,"
the very next scene is Lain going mad from loneliness with nobody to talk to but herself, and then the final scene is her choosing to start interacting with Humanity again and seeing Arisu in person.

The explicit message of the show which gets repeated verbatim is "No matter what, we're all connected," meaning no matter what you do you can't truly escape your connection with the rest of humanity. Eiri saught to transcend humanity to become a true YaHhWeHh-esque God. Lain sought to spare humanity from anyone taking advantage of her ever again by basically becoming a hermit. Most of the characters in the show are ultimately using The Wired to run away from the people in meatspace that affect them or to run away from their own human flaws and the people that remind them of those flaws. and every one of them fails because that connection can't be broken no matter how thinly you stretch it. In a very literal sense in Lain because everyone is hooked up to the Noosphere but also more broadly in that even in the total absence of other humans in your life, your awareness of the absence of other humans remains as an emotional connection to Others

>>280905902 (OP)
It was ok

>>280922298
I think the last encounter was with the long haired dude and not Lain.

>>280919919
He thought he had won but Lain picked Alice over him from the start.

>>280923552
fuck you

We all love Lain.

Let's all love Lain.

Imagine being Lain's boyfriend

>>280905902 (OP)
Serial Experiments Lain is basically an allegory and extrapolation of how technology like Internet would overwhelm our society. Or at least, how (japanese) people thought it would evolve 25 years ago.

>>280931924
It was pretty prescient in ways

>>280931924
>>280933625
japan was already like that in the 90's. everyone knew someone that was constantly using flipphones to post in bbs forums and message their online friends and getting sucked into fringe internet conspiracies. UFO cults were on the rise, growing alienation and meaninglessness due to the burst of the bubble economy was felt everywhere, and every few months there was another news report about some crazy guy that claimed to have recieved instructiona from electro-magnetic waves from the telephone wires. that's where all this denpa stuff came from

>>280932329
Cute

>>280923552
goldfish tho?
rly?
other than that shit looks FIRE
hmu wit sum of DAT frfr

>>280934030
Yeah. SEL can seem a bit esoteric if you don't know about that context at the time. Through that lens though, everything make sense.
Although, I do think it's quite pertinent in how it approaches the theme of dual personality. People's personae differ from a world to another, but ultimately, the barrier is bound to become blurry and collapse.
I think the anime is even bolder in its conjecture but it's been a while since the last time I've watched Lain, so I don't want to make wrong assumptions.

>>280931660
The UN should watch SEL

Everyone love Lain

funniest part is how the knights created fake Lain to try and troll Lain into killing herself only for Lain to reconcile fake Lain as still /A/ Lain and intergrate it into her system with her existing alters

bumo

>>280938105
ok I will

>>280905902 (OP)
ok

>>280905902 (OP)
lains good

>>280905902 (OP)
I fucking hated LAIN (the show)
Lain was cute