>Decide to watch pic related
>Every episode starts with her whining about some inane bullshit and screaming about punishing people
>Reused animation up the ass
>Cries like a toddler at the end of nearly every episode
People actually liked this show?

>>281089341 (OP)
>People actually liked this show?
No

>>281089341 (OP)
Gaylor Troon is anime for people who hate anime

I tried watching it a few years ago. Nearly every episode felt the exact same so I only watched the first season. I liked it more when Usagi was being a nuisance at school.

It's the female equivalent of Dragon Ball, so yes

>>281089558
Sailor Moon is a shojo, so its intended audience ranges from 12 to 18 year old girls

>>281089587
Well, irregardless, OP is male and therefore should watch more masculine programming

>>281089341 (OP)
I like it

>>281089341 (OP)
No, it was mostly a lot of anons' first faps

Even when I was four or five I thought the monster of the week fights were badly done and a drag on a show that should've just been about my girlfriend hanging out with her friends for 24 minutes.

>>281090077
this

>>281089341 (OP)
you're supposed to stare at the cute girls

>>281089341 (OP)
>>281089388
neither both

the whole reason why I do

>>281090701
Is it weird that I don't feel any attraction to sailor at all?

>>281089341 (OP)
Am I the only one who finds Sailor Moon to be a more girly series than Tokyo Mew Mew?

>>281090926
Yes, homo.

>>281089558
Why are you frogposting?

>>281089341 (OP)
So nobody else except me finds Sailor Moon more girly than Tokyo Mew Mew?

>>281090899
i cant wait to see more of his animations

>>281089341 (OP)
How come nobody finds Sailor Moon more girly than Tokyo Mew Mew?

>>281092488
is this the birth of an epic new meme??

>>281093300
No, I just feel weird for this opinion. I feel weird because everyone finds Mew Mew more girly, but for some reason, Sailor Moon comes off as more girly to me

>>281089341 (OP)
I just wish there was someone else out there who felt Sailor Moon was more girly than Tokyo Mew Mew as well

>>281089341 (OP)
Yeah, but you need to not be gay.

>>281089341 (OP)
So your only complaints are that the show reuses animation (less than minute per episode) and that a 14yo girl doesn't act in the exact way you wanted her to (as some epic manly oneshot heroman)
Why even make a stupid thread like this about three decades old show for little girls and pretend like you shat out some criticism

>>281089341 (OP)
Watch Crystal, it's far better.

>>281089341 (OP)
So nobody here finds Sailor Moon more girly than Tokyo Mew Mew?

>>281093936
It's dogshit

>>281093943
Bro I haven't even watched that show
Stop spammin

Venus best girl

>>281089341 (OP)
I like it when shes crying and everyone tells her to shut up. I hate it when they introduce some boring lore

>>281090926
All of them, or just Usagi in particular?
If it's all of them, kind of.
If it's just a preference, then not that weird.

>>281090926
You're a frog-shaped monster. Of course you don't like the Sailor soldiers.

The show was often on TV as a double slot hour with DBZ.
But DBZ was harder to follow and looped the same fights that took multiple whole episodes. So it was much harder to understand what was going on in DBZ when you come in at episode x and watch a whole episode of one fight and don't know who is who.
On the other hand, SM was pretty straight forward hybrid slice of life with attractive anime girls.
For a lot of people it was probably their first anime they watched after school.
I honestly don't remember if it was technically my first anime or not, but it might as well have been.
I remember going to the video store(yes, old) and seeing stuff like Akira and Ghost in the Shell for rent.
But SM was the most accessible.

>>281089587
Sailor Moon was notably popular with girls in preschool. The target audience was not that different from Precure's

>>281089388
fpbp

>>281089388
Wrong you shit licker

>>281093898
>less than minute per episode
Yeah, and it's the same theme song, poses, and transformation sequence EVERY FUCKING EPISODE
All just because some goddamn chinks can't be assed to actually put in the effort like more modern boy driven anime can
This show and it's fans are deranged

>>281095759
>it's the same theme song, poses, and transformation sequence EVERY FUCKING EPISODE
and it's kino every time

>>281095759
>Yeah, and it's the same theme song, poses, and transformation sequence EVERY FUCKING EPISODE
New to magical girl anime? It's only not fun to watch if it's shit like Sailor Moon is. "Boy driven anime", at least these days, don't often have transformation sequences so I don't see why that's relevant. A more equivalent example would be older mecha anime that had reused launch animations.

>>281095759
You're pissing your pants over such a minor thing that it's actually really funny
Here's a secret, there's a ton of shit you could criticize SM over, but because you didn't actually watch the show, you have to be content with grappling with this pedantic shit and pretend it's a well formulated critique for whatever psychosexual reasons

>>281089341 (OP)
Have you tried not being a brain dead faggot?

>>281095920
>>281095831
>>281095825
>B-but it's SUPPOSED to be like that
Sorry but unlike (you), I am an adult and as an adult, my time is very valuable. I would prefer not to waste it by watching some silly girl dance around to change into an ill fitting costume over and over. Same thing with these long 2 min intros. There are over two HUNDRED episodes of Sailor Moon, If I were to watch them all in one sitting, that would be 400 minutes alloted to just the theme song, I repeat, 400 MINUTES.
Nearly 7 hours of my life, stripped from me all just to hear the same song. And this isn't even getting to the other reused bits.

>>281096106
>my time is very valuable
Yet you're wasting it with the rest of us on 4chan.

>>281096106
>my time is very valuable

tastes

>>281089341 (OP)
>People actually liked this show?
It is confy, and this you're supposed to stare at the cute girls

>>281096106
> I am an adult and as an adult, my time is very valuable.
You watch anime, dude. Don't act as if you are above others here.

>>281089341 (OP)
Watch PreCure for better fights or Cardcaptor Sakura for better MC.

shit

>>281089341 (OP)
>People actually liked this show?
If they’re toddlers yes, if you’re a grown adult or even teen still watching Toei toy commercial Kodomo slop like Sailor Moon or Precure, it is unironically over for you, you’ll never have sex manchild.

>>281098154
I mean, I watched it as a kid. And these threads make me nostalgic and consider watching it again.
I can skip repetitive parts with a touch of a key and such.
I don't know if I will end up watching it again, but it's tempting just to see if I can get that nostalgia buzz.
It's not like it's going to have any effect on my life.
I still do watch anime. I don't know if I'd enjoy watching something strictly for nostalgia more than I'd enjoy some other show that genuinely interests me.
But it doesn't seem to crazy to try at some point.

>>281089587
>Sailor Moon is a shojo, so its intended audience ranges from 12 to 18 year old girls
That’s only the manga version, the 90’s anime was meant for the Precure audience, see here >>281095153 and here >>281098154

>>281098154
Neither Sailor Moon nor Precure are kodomo. Kodomo is stuffl Iike Doraemon or the Pokemon anime

>>281098501
>Neither Sailor Moon nor Precure are kodomo. Kodomo is stuffl Iike Doraemon or the Pokemon anime
They’re all Kodomo, 90’s Sailor Moon and Precure are Shojo Kodomo while the Pokémon anime is Shonen Kodomo, and Doraemon is the real “true neutral” Kodomo.

>tricking poor anons into coming out of the woodwork and talking about how good the show was and how much they like the show
Sasuga OP

I'm not even going to say "it's a show for girls" because at the time it seemed even the anime that girls seemed to like such as Slayers or Rayearth were leagues better than Sailor Moon. The whole series is junk.
I think the ONLY reason it has any legs at all for nostalgia is that it was a gateway into hentai and dudes remember it for that.

>>281089558
dont you insult precure

>>281095759
think of it the same way you would the op and ed.

>>281089341 (OP)
Usagi retardation is part of the appeal tho.
They made it as obvious as they possibly can by making her introduce herself as a clumsy crybaby at the start of every ep in the first season.

>>281099705
But he's probably someone who skips those too...

>>281099655
>Corporate Toei slop for toddlers meant to shill toys is junk
Quelle surprise…

>>281099687
>Precure
Both Precure and Sailor Moon are aimed at 10 year old girls, actually 10 years old might be high-balling it a little, try 5 year olds as seen here >>281098154

Any anime with official kigs can’t possibly have a target audience older than 6.

>>281099878
Fair enough especially for 200 whole eps, but the transformation sequences and attacks are really fast.
Although not hearing Moonlight Densetsu at least for all of the first season is a crime.

>>281099884
>Both Precure and Sailor Moon are aimed at 10 year old girls
yet the male viewership age is pretty high

>>281099898
I used to skip EDs a lot before I felt that it was disrespectful, and I also miss out on some neat songs and animation, esp if the ED has changes over time. But the OP, how can you skip Moonlight Densetsu, right??
I'm also at the point where the OP fucking CHANGED, I wasn't expecting that. Even gives me a preview of Venus

>>281099779
This, she's the archetypal unlikely hero

>>281089558
>>281089587
Sailor Moon was a shojo manga adapted by guys
into anime

>>281099943
>yet the male viewership age is pretty high
Those are all pedos. You wouldn’t want to be known as a pedo would you anon?

>>281090077
can confirm. was a 9yo when watched this show randomly on the tv.

Speaking of SM, what is modern SM? Where do i get my sexy girls beat sexy demons fix today?

>>281100685
>what is modern SM?
Precure for the 90’s anime, Madoka for the manga.

>>281099521
Nobody is doing that yet, so I might as well.
First off, it's filled to the brim with 90s quirkiness and humour, even the worse episodes will still be moderately entertaining to watch because of that alone. It's "soulful", as the younguns would call it. Makes the best out of its animation budget.

Usagi might as well be my favorite anime MC all things considered. She is cute, her shenanigans are always hilarious, the writers are not afraid of making her flawed and disagreeable at times(mostly her behavior with Mamoru once they are into a relationship) despite still being an all-loving idealistic heroine, she does suffer some actual (usually short-term) consequences for her behavior without going all the way into making her pitiful, slowly but surely goes through sensible character development without turning into another person.

The plot structure is simplistic, magical girls fight against bad guys who want to take over or blow shit up, but has a nice execution and some cool epic lore behind it. The main girls are all nice(with one notable exception... yes I mean the pink small one), the recurring side-characters are cute as well, and it has a balanced ratio of interesting villains(especially R) and ones that are just plain evil.
Only issue I can point out here is that, for a MOTW format, it doesn't have much in the way of interesting fights.

The romance themes work at first, then it's honestly barely there. First season does it right especially since the girls all get their own quasi-love interests, but then they just drop that entirely to focus on Usagi and Mamo(who is not very interesting honestly, Usagi deserved better). Other than that, it's magical girl stuff played straight but with its own "twist", since it's the first show mixing it with sentai before people started ripping it off so much to the point of memeing it into classic despite the whole point being doing a twist on the formula.

Evil Chibi-Usa was incredibly hot.

>>281101411
True that. It's a cool concept in general, but I wish they went all the way through. Apparently the manga delivers here.

>>281089341 (OP)
No one actually watched this, aside from kids and faggots. It was a show made for little girls.
It's bizarre how these creeps come out of the woodwork decades later and try to change the narrative, either because they were faggots or kids at the time, and didn't know what things were actually like.
Granted, that goes for half the shows that people post on 4chan. A lot of them were ridiculed or defacto banned back in the day, with Naruto and DBZ being the most obvious ones.

>>281093898
>>281095759
As a kid the transformation sequence was the closest we had to porn. I didn't just not mind it. I liked it.

>>281101474
>calling anyone a faggot for enjoying girls in miniskirt fighting stuff and naked transformation sequences
Actual fucking homo holy shit.

>>281089341 (OP)
if you want to actually like sailor moon you should skip right to fanfiction or later seasons.

Stop fighting!

>>281101616
Don't skip the OG, but I can agree with R and S being the meat of the show. SuperS is the one you should consider skipping unless you have terrible taste in characters and thus really love Chibiusa

>>281101674
the OG is the reason I dropped SM
>terrible taste in characters.
the whole s1 is that. theres almost no slice of life or fun events to be had for almost 1 season, its brain melting slop the whole way through, naru was a better character than all the other senshi and shes just a Japanese version of a jew who gets her evil boyfriend killed.

>>281089654
Yes, like Gochiusa and Precure.

>>281101411
>Evil Chibi-Usa was incredibly hot.
She also committed incest onscreen you sick fuck!

>>281101806
I liked how they introduced the main girls(aside from Minako, she didn't get much until the later seasons), their dynamics like the Usagi/Rei bantering, how they all had some sort romantic involvement to tie into the show's main themes, and the Nephrite/Naru stuff was cool as fuck.
Other than that, it does have the best ending sequence of the entire series, only Stars came close but didn't feel as impactful.

>>281101909
>ending sequence,
the fact that it has a good one manages to make it better than .hack//sign
but thats not a lot. the relationship dynamics didn't fucking exist, every character whos not usagi doesnt exist at all. you can really tell takeuchi wanted to kill all of these girls one by one for dramatic effect but was told they weren't going to do that, but then ikuhara didnt seem to know what to do with any of the characters. Almost every fic I have ever read involving SM does SM better than it. its really not that hard to. all of the characters are really simple and it's increadible that they where executed so poorly in s1.
>b-but muh romances
thats 4 episodes out of 46

>>281101842
Even better.

>>281102170
>every character whos not usagi doesnt exist at all.
Not true at all. Granted they don't have the same amount of relevancy as Usagi herself and I would say only Rei gets close, but they are there and get some focus.
>you can really tell takeuchi wanted to kill all of these girls one by one for dramatic effect
Which is why this worked even if they are dead for one episode. It also had the balls to do actual death as opposed to what Stars did, close enough but it hits different when Usagi has to literally see their lifeless corpses hanging there.
>thats 4 episodes out of 46
I definitely remember a lot more than that.

>>281102344
usagi solo is mc for almost 8 episodes
anyway you are wrong
>which is why this worked
thats not what i said you retard
though yes them dying temporarily in the climax is takeuchi finally getting her way, she wanted to kill them over time like the hos in galforce.

>>281102443
>usagi solo is mc for almost 8 episodes
That's a pretty fair ratio out of 46.
>anyway you are wrong
Amazing argument
>thats not what i said you retard
My point is that the only reason for why the S1 ending works is because they actually made you care about them to some extent.
>takeuchi finally getting her way
Not a good thing in SM, hence why the anime is way better at most things, though there are exceptions.

>>281102494
>thats a pretty fair ratio
until you factor in the fact that the other characters do almost nothing even Slice of life for almost 46 episodes.
>Amazing argument
responding to tone fallacy
>My point is that the only reason for why the S1 ending works is because they actually made you care about them to some extent.
no, the reason it works is that all 4 of them finally get to fucking do something even if they then immediately die. Mercury is especially egregious because she even openly monologues how little she contributed. as for me caring about the characters, the fans did all the heavy lifting, by the end of that finale I DROPPED IT, do you get that? the ending didnt make me satisfied, I regreted watching it.
>Not a good thing in SM, hence why the anime is way better at most things, though there are exceptions.
It was unquestionably better for the theme of S1, which was fundamentally way higher brow than the author had the moral chomps for admittedly. Basically a romance version of cutting the child in half, Sailor moon sacrifices everything she cares about for her man and world, while beryl attempts to dump eet in order to get her unrequited love. The message to women was utterly lost on even the author judging by the final season.

>>281099943
Dude, half the people on 4chins are either manchildren or actual children.

Geeting good tastes or takes here is mission impossible. You come here to laugh at stupid people and stupid anime.

>>281102668
>until you factor in the fact that the other characters do almost nothing even Slice of life for almost 46 episodes.
And that's straight up untrue.
>responding to tone fallacy
"you are wrong" isn't an argument, what kind of answer do you expect?
> by the end of that finale I DROPPED IT, do you get that?
And I kept going to R, user issue.
>Sailor moon sacrifices everything she cares about for her man and world
I think the anime still did a good job at conveying that, since I could get it without being familiar with the manga at all. You still see Usagi pushing forward after the shit she had to witness, without any guarantee that she could fix things.

OP is a fag buf sailor moon is gud so stay alive

Play Another Story

>>281094642
Venus>Moon>Mars>Uranus>Mercury>Jupiter>Neptune>Saturn

>>281104633
Poor Hotaru. But honestly she barely gets to do anything as Saturn.
Usagi is cuter though

>>281104633
Venus would make a good wife

>>281089411
true

>>281105284
No she wouldn't. She is a dirty two-timer, an aspiring idol and a degenerate barely hiding it.

>>281089341 (OP)
true but the opening is top tier, and chibiuisa has a gun

>>281105399
That gun would probably be more effective than transforming until she got the combo attack with Moon.

>>281089473
But the manga was good. I used to enjoy reading it.

>>281100348
Stfu troon

>>281105306
She's the goddess of love and fertility anon. She just can't help it.

>>281096106
I didn't say it's "supposed to be like that" or that there aren't issues in the show
Why even quote me if you're not going to engage the post and just post a wojak while shooting your own kneecaps, you look really retarded right now little bro

>>281107433
Why even replying to a jak poster

>>281108260
It's free

>>281089388
based

>>281089341 (OP)
>>Every episode starts with her whining about some inane bullshit and screaming about punishing people
>>Reused animation up the ass
>>Cries like a toddler at the end of nearly every episode
You summed up My Hero very nicely

>>281106084
>troon
That would be the manchildren who watch little girls anime like Sailor Moon and Precure, they’re all AGPs who end up trooning out.

>>281101842
that was an illusion created by Wiseman to try and break Usagi's will.

>>281103765
>puzzle piece on the final boss

>>281110767
>Wiseman

>>281110804
ikr.
I didn't bother doing the puzzle though, Mercury makes the game easy as fuck, surprisingly enough.

okay Doug Walker

>>281110767
>that was an illusion created by Wiseman to try and break Usagi's will.
Not in the manga and Crystal it wasn’t.

>>281110839
Mercury sucks as an attacker, you basically have to have her and Chibi Moon sit in the back and spam healing items.
Saturn trivialises the game, her attacks do more damage than everyone else's combined

>>281111559
>Mercury sucks as an attacker
Shabon Spray makes up for it. Busted as fuck and you only need to apply it once unlike Time Stop. Only fight where this isn't as good is the one with the multiple oppositio senshis.
> Chibi Moon sit in the back and spam healing items.
I didn't use Chibi Moon much unless forced, but being fast and having some nice healing combos worked well.
>Saturn trivialises the game
She scales badly in endgame though. Uranus, Mars and Jupiter eventually end up as better attackers.

>>281090926
Fuck off, frognigger.

>>281111700
Time Stop is an actual better move because it means you only need to count the number of turns to completely break the game.
There's no reason to use the SP-based healing moves because the fullheal items are so cheap and easy to get, all you're doing is wasting the SP crystal things that could be better spent on attacking. I only ever needed them for revives, and I only needed revives if I got lazy and stopped paying attention.
even against the final boss Saturn does more damage than anyone else.

>>281111881
>even against the final boss Saturn does more damage than anyone else.
That's odd. Did you put her in the center of cluster formation while only ever using the others in different positions? She shouldn't be stronger than endgame Uranus/Mars/Jupiter.

>>281111938
no, her and Uranus or Jupiter in the front. Moon in the middle. Mercury and I think Neptune in the rear. been a while, I don't remember the exact group I took into the final battle.

Your daily reminder that the old dub is based and the best version of Sailor Moon by far! Everything you love about the show, including it’s fanservice, but with none of the woke homofaggotry, truly the best dub of it’s time. Modern pozzed trannylizers could never…

>>281112275
>dub
But why though

>>281104633
Rei Hino is my favorite character from Sailor Moon because of this episode.

>>281112275
Are people like this real

I'm almost done with R, and I'm gonna be honest, Ami sucks. I don't know if later seasons allow her to grow as a character, but so far she's been reduced to "the girl who likes to study." Almost every time she opened her mouth in this season, it was to say something related to studying, even if it had nothing to do with the conversation, and the first episode to focus entirely on her revolves around her being blamed for cheating on a test. Come on. She's a nothing character. I don't know why the other girls can have multiple hobbies and different interactions that don't revolve around a single trait, but Ami can't.

>>281113025
Also, the whole subplot about Mamoru breaking up with Usagi, and Usagi being jealous of a literal toddler, was so bad, man.

>>281113025
>Ami sucks
Rude
>but so far she's been reduced to "the girl who likes to study."
But unfortunately true. At some point she will literally say that herself, can't remember in which season, but I think it was actually the second half of R?

>>281113128
You are just getting started with Chibiusa bullshit. At least R does have that one part with her at the end.

>>281113025
>I'm almost done with R
What episode are you on? How do you feel about the villains and Chibiusa as a character so far?

>>281112360
>But why though
What part of “got rid of the homofaggotry” don’t you understand?

>>281114646
It's just censored but in the other direction then. Censorship isn't good when you do it.

>>281114733
He doesn't want uncensored media, he just wants a safe space. Many such cases.

Which character would say start diggin in yo butt twin?

>>281114784
>he just wants a safe space.
Exposing little kids to woke propaganda is considered a form of grooming and politics need to stay out of kids shows altogether.

>>281115008
So a safe space basically

>>281115008
Just like exposing them to violence in cartoons or videogames created all those criminals, am I right?
Same shit, same arguments every time. /pol/ fags simply need to stay the fuck away from any form of media no matter which side they are on.

>>281101317
Megabased Usagiking. But uh, I love Chibiusa too

>>281115142
>/pol/ fags simply need to stay the fuck away from any form of media no matter which side they are on.
Exactly, so why even insert gay shit into a girly Power Rangers for kids in the first place? Especially in the 90’s when being homo was still socially unacceptable and linked to the AIDS crisis, it’s obvious agenda pushing.

>>281115284
It wasn't political back then, they were aiming at the /y/ fujos.

>>281115284
It's not really a political show and it doesn't do political statements, whether you think liking peepee is political sounds like your issue

>>281113776
>What episode are you on?
I finished episode 34 last night (which would be episode 80 overall).
>Chibiusa as a character so far?
I thought she was annoying at first (although I think the way Usagi acted around her was way more exasperating), but after the show started to explore her backstory, and she started to open up to Usagi and the rest, I warmed up to her. She's just a lost kid in need of love and attention.
>How do you feel about the villains?
I liked Eiru and An from the first arc. I'm glad they didn't stretch their story too much, but I also feel the climax was quite abrupt. One episode they were on their usual shenanigans, and the next we were already in the final battle. I liked the Ayakashi Sisters as well, and the way their story was resolved. I was fully expecting them to die, since that's what happened to Jadeite and the rest in season 1, so I was pleasantly surprised the show gave them a nice sendoff. I would watch a spin-off centered around them. That said, I feel the story needed to set up their dislike for each other and Rubeus as this manipulative asshole better, since that only started to come into place right before the story started to play with this element. The final battle with Rubeus was good. I don't have any opinion on Demande, since he just showed up, but Esmeraude is hot and, just like the sisters, has a fun personality.

>>281115455
Enjoy the R villains while you can, nothing is going to top them.
Also eh, when it comes to Chibiusa, I thought R was the one handling her better in spite of having her at the highest level of brattiness. You still aren't ready for S blatantly forcing her in the plot and SuperS making it everything about her at the cost of nearly killing the franchise.

>>281115455
The sisters die in their introduction episode in Crystal. That's how it is in the source material too. I like that they get redeemed in the 90s anime. That was the best part about them.

>>281115686
Stop telling people how to feel about Chibiusa. You keep saying the same shit over and over. Let people form their own opinion.

>>281115773
>Let people form their own opinion.
I am sure anon is fully capable of that.

>>281115375
>they were aiming at the /y/ fujos.
And the lesbian characters?

>>281117352
The /u/ ones

Feels like there is always somebody watching it somewhere.
Nice to see SM is still alive

>>281089341 (OP)

This is one of those shows that was good to watch as a kid in the 90s but it doesn't hold up to modern standards.

>>281119215
>modern "standards"
Good joke

>>281105284
I wish I was that bike seat.

>>281113025
They should have kept that guy that liked Ami in season 1. He would've fixed her.

>>281093943

I've never watched that show.

>>281119267

Fair enough, I think just "doesn't hold up once youve watched magic girl shows from the last decade, or even Madoka" would have been better to day.

>>281115773
My opinion is that this brat is too erotic for her own good.

>>281119577
Madoka is not a magical girl show. Its just Kamen Rider Ryuki with girls.

>>281089341 (OP)
Read the manga. It's more retarded and every arc is the exact same format but at least it's shorter.

>>281119577
>or even Madoka
She ruined the genre though

>>281119580
At least that's true.
>that episode where she age swaps with Usagi
>Black Lady
>has more pantyshots than the entire cast combined in S alone

>>281119625
Also
>saw more dicks than all the senshis

>>281119625
And she was going to kiss a horse.

>>281119614

Its a deconstruction of the genre like One Punch Man is a deconstruction of shonen.

>>281119625
Gushing over Magic Girls brought it back

>>281119616
Meh, I feel like if I want to watch a 90s anime magic girl show I'd watch Cardcaptor Sakura

>>281119625
>She ruined the genre though
She wasn't part of the genre.

>>281119812
>Its a deconstruction of the genre
No it isn't.
Butcher just lifted the plot from Ryuki cause he really liked it.

>>281119812
>Its a deconstruction of the genre
Which it firmly ripped off from the Stars arc in the manga in particular…

>>281119830
...I mean, it still functions as a critique of Magic girls.

>>281119927
OK sure.

>>281089341 (OP)
I just realized, the sailor moon that I watched was dual audio. Does that mean it's censored (missing scenes). I feel the bathing scenes are incomplete.

Should I always avoid dual audio anime?

>>281120137
>it still functions as a critique of Magic girls
Not really. That all comes from the viewer. Not of it was intended by Butcher.

>>281120207
The creator's intention and what they actually convey are two different things. I can mean to say something nice to someone, but if they take it the wrong way, they're still pissed at the end of the day.

Also you can't take these interviews as gospel. Sometimes they just say shit so people stop asking them more about it.

>>281115686
>Enjoy the R villains while you can, nothing is going to top them.
Mimette, Tomoe, Fish-Eye, and Lead Crow & Siren are all great though.

>>281120298
Then I'll just say Madoka is shit and leave it at that.
And its still not a deconstruction.

>>281120149
Nah, you're fine. It's going to be the Viz dub, which is decent enough and doesn't mess with anything.
The 90's dub, I think Cloverway? It chopped episodes up, combining the last two or three.
If Luna doesn't sound like a British Nanny(which I think should have been the standard for her), you're fine.

>>281120492
Wrong answer.
Correct answer is don't watch dubs.

>>281120492
DiC dubbed S1 and ⅔ of S2. they cut 4 or 5 episodes, and they tried very hard to turn the show into a Saturday morning cartoon. Cloverway did the final part of S2, then S3 and S4. they didn't cut any episodes but they did trim a few scenes for graphic/sexual content. Regardless, their run was a lot closer to the original script than the DiC run was. The voices were still the silly 'cartoon' voices though, with Amy speaking British and Serena practically singing all of her dialogue.

>>281120574
True, but that wasn't the issue.
He's watching it with subtitles, but the files are dual audio, and was wondering if that was an issue, which beyond taking up a bit more file size than might be ideal, it's not.

It's amazing how Sakura Card Captors has a much more solid and enjoyable writing than other shoujo classics.

>>281120664
>Sakura Card Captors
Dyslexic?

>>281120362

Why are some of you weirdos so against Madoka? I think it got too popular back in the 2010s and so people hated it.

>>281120740
I can't speak for other people but I'm against it because I don't like people that just copy the plot of something else.

>>281120149
You are a stupid dumbfuck, proven by every single thing you have input here. You should kys and fuck off to your shonenshit threads, we have more than enough retards with the mewmewfag. Seriously, just kys.

>>281120740
Madoka was "my first subbed non-4kids/toonami" anime for a generation of otaku. same with Haruhi, Elfen Lied, and a couple of others. Because they were darker and "more mature" than what they were used to, they got put on a pedestal. in reality they were midrate FOTM from a really weak era of anime.

>>281120836

I want to argue but you're right. Mid 00s was the last "golden" time in anime. 2010s up until 2016 was pretty bad, 2016-2020 was good again, and everything after COVID has been shit.

>>281120889
>and everything after COVID has been shit
Not everything.
Fuuto Tantei was amazing.

>>281120889
mid 00s were the dark age, zoomer. anime fell off a cliff after 1997-1998, and never recovered. the animation quality started to get better around 2009, but the writing and art design didn't.

>>281103765
the combat system and story was kind of bad. I also didn't like the shittenou section pairings.

>>281106854
based and mistress v pilled
>>281105306
shut up rei you know you like it.

>>281120944
The combat system was godlike, what are you smoking?

>>281112275
go back, kyoukonigger

>>281119614
so is sailor moon, just an earlier kamen rider

>>281121046
You are mistaking Kamen Rider with Super Sentai retard.

>>281120137
>>281120207
>>281120298
>>281120362
it absolutely was intended by butcher, but it was a critique of nanoha era magical girls not SM in particular.
though if you think madoka is shit your taste is just bad

>>281121000
a decade of actually fun games.

>>281121094
>it was a critique of nanoha era magical girls
Do you have any evidence of this?
Cause there IS evidence of him saying he loved Kamen Rider Ryuki.

>>281121076
those are the same thing.
>>281121123
cant dig it up on short notice but he asks what is tsabs tax policy or something in the interview question. basically he was saying he thought the goodness of the nanoha organization was too convenient when he said that.

>>281121094
>what if magical girls, but GRIM and DARK and GORY
yes, it's shite. only 12 year olds like that. it's the Death Note of mahoshojo, an animated version of Linkin Park.

>>281120969
NTA but god you are a retard. Go erp somewhere else fag.

>>281121194
>those are the same thing
They most certainly are not.

>>281121205
>it's the Death Note of mahoshojo, an animated version of Linkin Park.
So it's pretty good?

>>281121337
You have to be 18 to post on this website.

I like Madoka but I could understand not liking it and I don't think it's enjoyable in the same way a normal magical girl anime is. But if the people who hate it go on to say they like Sailor Moon and Precure I just can't take those people seriously.
>>281121205
Madoka isn't gory and there's not even much blood. All these "critiques" always sound like something by people who have never watched it.

It isn’t /a/ but watch the Live Action show. It’s arguably better than the source material

>>281121478
God I love live action SM.
The girls are so hot.

>>281121544
That's the only reason? Fucking dumbfuck retards plaguing nu-/a/ I swear... the story is better, the character development is better, the new twists they add make it better, etc... take all your fellow redditors with you and piss off retard

>>281121685
No that's not the only reason.
But its a good reason.

>>281121701
>>>/r/eddit
and don't come back

>>281121544
They’re middle schoolers

>>281121714
Fuck you. I'm a bigger fan of the live action than you.
And I wish it had better subs than TV fucking Nihon.

>>281089473
It's super formulaic at the start.
>Baddie is stealing energy from people through some gimmick.
>Sailor Moon transforms to fight them.
>She's about to lose but then Tuxedo Mask throws a rose which somehow saves her.
>He then fucks off like he just remembered he left the stove on.
>Sailor Moon throws a tiara and destroys the baddie.
It gets a little more varied once the other scouts are introduced. But it's still pretty much the same.

>>281121726
>claims to be big fan
>doesn't even speak the source language
LMFAO. You ain't shit, retard. I'm the certified biggest fan of PGSM here, child, you're fooling no one... and because I am a true fan and not a larping casual I don't need subs because I watch it in Japanese... heck what were you even doing 585 days ago, child?

>>281121881
>doesn't even speak the source language
Sorry anon. I can't learn a new language at my age.

>>281121880
>scouts

>>281121923
That's a load of shite if I've ever seen one and anyway, you had 30 years for doing that. Yes, SM was the reason I learned Japanese.

>>281121951
the sailor scouts
that's what they're called isn't it?

>>281121958
I admire your drive sir.
>>281121979
No. The official moniker is Sailor Guardians. Most people just say Sailor Senshi.

>>281121979
NTA but NO, you dubfag casual. Kys
>>281121951
This. I despise dubfags and casual shitters so much it's unreal. I blame the mewmewfag for bringing all those idiots in.

>>281122008
No, Guardian became the official translation during PGSM. The oldest materials say Pretty Soldier.

>>281121979
in the Japanese they're called Sailor Senshi, with Senshi most directly translating to squadron (in the military sense, has the same root as Sentai). in the original dub this was localised as Scouts, probably because they recognised the parallels to the Power Rangers (American version of Super Sentai; see above) the series was going for, but figured 'Rangers' would've opened them up to legal issues so went with the similar 'Scouts'. Since then, the mangaka has specifically requested it be translated as 'Guardian', so all modern English media calls them Sailor Guardians.
during their transformation sequences in the original show, the lyrics for the BGM calls them Sailor Soldiers in engrish, to add another layer of obscurity.

>>281122077
There was no official translation during the Pretty Soldier days. Guardian is the first time it was made official.

>>281122166
That's what I said

>>281122120
Anyone who calls them "scouts" is a retarded faggot and not a fan and should neck himself

>>281122033
>I blame the mewmewfag
Kek that poor autist isn't responsible for anything, be nice.

>>281122363
anyone who gets their knickers in a twist over 'scouts' outs themselves as a newfag who didn't watch the show until well after it ceased to be culturally relevant.

>>281122397
Other than samefagging and spamming like a madman and engaging the worst shitposters and trolls just for having any semblance of "human interaction" and ruining discussion in any possible way plus assaulting people IRL and biting them? Well...

>>281122577
Way to out yourself as a projecting casual. If you were an actual fan who grew up with the series you would have been engaging the international fandom for over two decades and the term used is SENSHI. We had that discussion when you weren't even born. Fuck off.

>>281122577
>if you didn't watch it on toonami you're a newfag
God I wish you fags would just leave /a/.

>>281122701
This. Typing "scout" or any mention to Tokyo Mew Mew should be an autoban.

>>281122701
yes, cope.

>>281122681
no "we" didn't. and my point was you getting tilted over it exposes yourself as a casual trying too hard to fit in. I know what they're called in Japanese, I've known and used their Japanese names for 25 years. I use the old dub names specifically to bait autistic retards like you who give way too much of a shit about it.

>>281122763
>I was just pretending to be retarded, I swear!
LMFAO the smartest zoomie right there kek... maybe that works in your minecraft discord with your fellow children, not here with any real BSSM fan. Piss off

>>281122904
I literally explained the origin of the term here >>281122120
the best part about the 'Scout' bait is it works every single time, I love it

>>281123328
>doubling down
At this point one can only pity (You)

>>281112360
Because I like hearing Canadians say "sorey" constantly

>>281123809
always fun making illiterate morons expose themselves

>>281123970
>I was playing 4D chess I swear!!
Hahahhaha loool... only after you pass that N5 at your primary school you can reply to me again, child

>>281124152
NTA but I'm American. Wtf is N5?

>>281121544
>>281121478
It's such a fun show

>>281124152
>he's still engaging
absolutely malding

>>281124249
>if you laugh at me I win!
And of course it was that retarded Mercuryfag from /adv/... holy shit kys

>>281089499
I think the characters in the anime are very well written during their daily lives but they often become more bland while they're dressed up in their sailor clothes

Magical girls done right

>>281121393
>You have to be 18
Out of 10?

>>281124591
Sailor Moon ruined the magical girl genre.

>>281124356
>everyone who humiliates with me is the same person
schizo lol

>>281089341 (OP)
i like the porn i just wished there was more of it

>>281124647
Why?

>>281124737
>I was just pretending to be retarded but this time it will work!
hahhaha pathetic

>>281124803
retarded dbspic kys

Reminder that Usagi wets the bed.

>>281124985
>still seething, still replying
every (you) is another W you hand me on a silver platter

>>281125278
An Usagi does

>>281125292
>autist thinks people laughing at him are "seething" lmao
Yeah you won the award for the biggest idiot on this website kek

>>281126101
>got proven wrong
>e-everyone agrees with me!!
you're all alone on this dusty plain, amigo

>>281089341 (OP)
lmao