Thread 281130284

I'm tired of pretending Subaru was in the wrong here.

>>281130284 (OP)
i might get hate for this, but takemichi from tokyo revengers is a better protagonist than subaru

>>281130284 (OP)
but he makes le ugly faces while saying it, dude
he's obviously in the wrong

>>281130284 (OP)
Okabe is a gazillion times better of a protagonist than this badly written, unlikeable retard.

>>281130284 (OP)
Emilia really is helpless without Subaru.

>>281130284 (OP)
He wasn't in the wrong, Emilia is a dumb cunt

>>281130490
I hate you.

He's ugly and annoying so yeah

>>281130284 (OP)
Technically he is right, but he is dumb for saying that, because he was the one who forced himself into that relationship and he can't exaplin RbD

This is something that is right until you say it aloud

>>281130607
>>281130639
this.
You don't say the quiet part out loud. The moment he stooped to whining about his problems (and more specifically whining about the problems he got himself into and continuously chooses to be involved with) he lost.
Stoicism is a virtue so even if he's right, he's still wrong.

>>281130284 (OP)
>pretend

>>281130284 (OP)
>Ugly face
About that, that was the point of that face? Why do Japanese anime have to be so lacking in subtlety? Is their audience really that retarded?

>>281131091
Yes, they are THAT retarded. This place is no different either. You'll come to realize that one day yourself.

>>281130284 (OP)
I hate everything about this pic. The faces, the lighting, the dialogues.
It's ultra slop.

>>281131147
I will never understand why anyone likes Re:Zero. The author intentionally writes unlikeable characters, and everything is so shoddily presented. It's getting a bit old, too. It's all a mystery to me. Probably one of those that only get good after 20+ books.

>>281130284 (OP)
I miss when re:zero was about subaru being a disgusting loser that couldn't go one day without fucking up and dying.
Now they won't stop sucking his schlong at every opportunity.

i really disliked this anime, i thought it was terrible

>>281130284 (OP)
Emilia is a genuinely nice person so this makes Barusu look like a dick

>>281130284 (OP)
He's wrong because he's lame. Gratitude is freely given not begged for.

>>281130284 (OP)
he is right but its a pointless thing to say to someone who can never understand

In this scenario Subaru is the straw that broke camel's back. Or in the pic related, he's the mouse. Sure, his contribution was the final piece of the puzzle that allowed them to fix the problem, but he kinda forgot that "final piece" is fucking useless if all other pieces are absent. His contribution is critical, sure, but he's not really the greatest contributer.
tl;dl: time powers overinflated his sense of importance, he took everyone else for granted.

>>281130284 (OP)
There's a difference between being right and being an asshole about it.

>>281130578
This. He’s ugly and making a face to make himself even uglier.

>>281130284 (OP)
in this shit where everyone gets massacred at the drop of a hat its a wonder how any of those people survived as long as they did without this guy being completely immortal

>>281130284 (OP)
Yeah. She doesn't know it but he saved her multiple times, dying many horrible deaths to do so, some of which were her fault for being a dumbass. She put him in a mansion with two murder maids while failing to realize he smells like witch's asshole. She fails to realize there is going to be an attack on the estate, twice in fact. She doesn't even try to help him while it's blatantly obvious he is traumatized and not responsible for maid's death. She is utterly incompetent to be a leader so this literal who has to get the shit beaten out of him to defend her honor. Of fucking course he was going to snap at her eventually.

>>281131913
Subaru only has himself to blame, he went through all that shit willingly because he wanted some elf pussy well that's what you get

>>281131200
what's a likable character then

>>281132351
Daiakuji

>>281130284 (OP)
Lol what a coincidence I started watching re zero today

>>281131091
The novels had him thinking about how pathetic and ugly he looked for this emotional outburst, the anime translated that into him being ugly. It's meant to mirror how he feels about himself, not how he is meant to be objectively.

>>281132351
Tohno Shiki

>>281130284 (OP)
"Do not ask for or demand understanding from others. All you will receive is disrespect and contempt." -Machiavelli (paraphrased)

>>281130284 (OP)
without subaru roswaal wouldn't have done the thing in arc 1 to steal emilia's insignia so she wouldn't have been put in danger

>>281130767
>The moment he stooped to whining about his problems
you know, i think getting brutally murdered repeatedly is an acceptable thing to whine about.

>>281130284 (OP)
honestly emilia is a bit of a hypocrite, she uses subaru as her knight all the time, but he comes wanting some respect and suddenly she gets angry?

>>281130284 (OP)
Emilia doesn't know about RBD, so as far as she's concerned he's a schizo. Plus the way he said all that was incel behavior.

>>281130284 (OP)
it's not really about being right or wrong. it's just pathetic.

Kazuya, Subaru and Deku. The three horsemen of the cuckcalpse.

>>281130564
>t. remtard

>>281130284 (OP)
Women will never act like how you want them to act and no amount of simping will ever change that.

>>281130284 (OP)
Subaru ISN'T in the wrong HOWEVER, nobody else knows the significance of his actions, the trials and tribulations he suffered through. For them, this whiny sperg just talk no jitsu'd some problems and made it to their destination.

From Emillia's perspective, Subaru hasn't done anything to really win her over so why should she immediately fall for him when he's effectively just a tag along. He can't even tell her cause it'll kill both of them.

>>281130284 (OP)
He's right, but he's incapable of explaining. From everyone else's perspective Mitsubishi didn't do much.

>>281139828
I need an edited version that only shows the prime timeline to see everyone else's view of Toyota's actions.

>>281132351
Rudeus from Mushoku Tensei

>>281136332
She was tired, though not like she was actually abandoning him. He was always going to stay back for treatment. Its a little more reasonable when you consider just how fucked Subaru was health wise at that moment, he was genuinely in danger of dying if he did any more risky shit and he was in denial about that because he saw no other value in himself other than being able to be broken.
People take the scene in the most shallow way possible, Subaru was over emotional and half dead and Emilia was naive and shit at communication.

Maybe it'd be easier to understand both if you genderswap both characters.
Imagine Subaru as a girl and Emilia as a guy, it's now a yandere desperate to not be abandoned by the one guy she's clinging onto to keep herself sane. Emilia is now an oblivious yandere love interest who cant understand her. No idea how this becomes impossible to understand when you give the yandere a dick.

show falls apart when everything could be avoided by simply talking about return by death
>but he dies
try harder

>>281140845
Think of it as a metaphor for /ss/ domestic abuse if that makes it easier. Subaru can't tell others about his relationship with Satella because she crushes his balls very hard when he does.

>>281130284 (OP)
In retrospect 9 years later, it was fucking crazy that a narouslop isekai would ever allow their protagonist to be seen in anything but the best of lights, let alone treat him like irredeemable feces throughout multiple episodes. At one point, every character and their mom (even the girls!) was shitting on this guy.

We have never seen anything like this before or since. The first wave of the isekaiboom was wild.

>>281132351
The one he unintentionally wrote as good.

>>281136332
That's because she's shit.

>>281140845
What if he wrote it down?
What if he hid the statement as a stylized pattern in a painting which was actually Morse Code. Then he taught someone morse code and waited for them to figure it out.
What if he communicated the information in the form of charades?
What if he carved all the individual words of the statement on bricks and hid them around the mansion over the course of weeks. Then just waited for them to be discovered and for someone to piece together the correct order.

>>281141478
What if he pretended to write down folkstories from Japan, but when you read the first character of every line it spells out the statement.

>>281130284 (OP)
i dont know why people hate this scene or think that he has to be in the right for it to be excusable
seeing characters go a bit ballistic or even be in the wrong is more entertaining than a character that never gets phased by anything

>>281130284 (OP)
Cringekino scene which elevated Re:Zero way above most isekaislop. Only self inserters could hate it.

>>281140109
Nice joke

I think Yoru (NIGHT) will weaponize the sun, that’s why Asa was shooting at it

>>281130284 (OP)
how was subaru able to even pull Emilia after all the sperg cringe shit he said and did that got locked in the timeline?

>>281130284 (OP)
people who dismiss this scene are the same people who think giving food to homeless people is bad

>>281130284 (OP)
>this homo watches the "I'm not like the other isekai" isekai

>>281144459
He had just gotten most of his bones broken and was already needing to get medical treatment or else he would die so she didn’t take it personally.

>>281142209
anime fans live and die by self inserting. The minute the main character does something the viewer wouldn't, they immediately go and complain online.

>>281130284 (OP)
It’s crazy how even with a butchered scene he’s still in the right

>>281139828
He’s risking his life and saved hers. The fuck are you even talking about right now?

>>281130284 (OP)
Well, he was. He didn’t go all the way.
If only he’d met a kind and understanding senpai who’d given him a long chat about the dangers of women.

>>281147831
reddit

>>281147874
Reddit hates rapechads

>>281148002
Nah Rance is quintessentially reddit

>>281148020
All Reddit does is whine about Rance
Meanwhile, Re:zero gets all their love

>>281148039
Rance is the most popular vn up there with SG and other redditcore and here you are trying to tell me it's not reddit safe rapey

>>281148002
>rapechad
>doesn't rape lolis
>gets emotional about some girl dying and becomes the demon lord
>doesn't like traps
cuck'chad' not /a/

>>281148259
>doesn't rape lolis
Wait really? No way I've seen his vns have lolis in them

>>281130284 (OP)

While i understand why he would feel that way he is still objectively wrong. One should never act on the assumptions that good deeds, intentions or efforts would be rewarded.

The only valid reason to act for others is when that´s what one wants to do. Selfless acts do not exist. One must accept one´s own selfishness in order to not feel doubts or be burdened by regrets. The outcome is either success or a learning experience. It matters not.

>>281131752
It does inspire a feeling of dislike.

>>281132408
>>281134374
>>281140109
>>281141295
>>281147831
so a character you self--insert as?
I don't think that's the proper definition

>>281130284 (OP)
>>281141343
Damn, I dropped this series in s2 because it focused on boring shit side characters but this looks interesting again and white haired guy seems based. Is it worth picking this up for the drama and male characters or it still primarily about non-human randos and waifu shit?

>>281150647
No it’s not worth it. Animation is better than S2 but the direction is worse if that’s possible and the white-haired dude gets one of the most laughably pathetic deaths in all of anime after doing almost nothing

>>281150172
>thinking Subaru isn't a self-insert
Reddit:Zerotards are delusional

>>281150830
pretty much every anime that is liked on /a/ is also popular on reddit

>>281136268
Not if you keep doing it to yourself. He's doing stuff nobody asked him to do for his own self-gratification. Or at least that's how it essentially comes off in the moment when he's whining about it. If you do something because you think its right you need to accept the consequences and not expect anything back for it.
Hopefully the nature of your good actions will come back to you, and in his case they did with Rem but he was entirely unappreciative of it.

>>281131091
>Why do Japanese anime
This anime is a product targeting young adults audiences. Those that are not well known for subtlety, Japanese or not,

>>281136332
He's not really her knight at that point, he just claimed to be and to avoid him just straight up getting executed for lying/impersonation which a medieval society takes seriously she couldn't publicly deny that.
Later on she accepts that and is even official about it but also gives him more consideration.

>>281140068
There is. I don't think I have the link handy anymore but someone cut the first season down into just what sticks.

>>281130284 (OP)
I don't care about the wrongness or rightness of his actions. He's just repulsive. And I don't care if an author does it on purpose so that later on the character can have "character development". It's contrived and tiresome to watch.

>>281140845
>but he dies
He doesn't die, people around him die. Satella would only kill him if faced with an opponent she herself couldn't remove like Regulus or Reinhard, but this also isn't really weaponizable as she doesn't appreciate that either. Its a punishment to him for violating the taboo so he doesn't do it, if he did it randomly when not actually in danger elsewhere, such as if he actually went through with it to say it to Emilia in that scene Satella would punch Emilia's heart out and then lock the timeline.

>>281141478
She's in his head and its intention based. She'll execute punishments even if she can't do her usual threats or warnings. The reason he can't do it is protective for him, if people knew what he could do and how he does it its trivially easy to circumvent and stop him for good.

>>281150830
its literally impossible to relate to subaru without dying

>>281151157
He did see it himself as a pathetic and horrible attempt at self gratification but imo it was more out of desperation because he was using Emilia as an emotional crutch. As long as he was her knight he wouldn't be left with his own thoughts, this scene was him begging her in any way he could, down to op's scene, because he couldn't explain himself or his feelings but was terrified of being left abandoned.
With Rem, he refused to believe her feelings were anything more than suspension bridge puppy love because he hated himself too much, at the same time he did indulge in that crush because it was a crutch to lean on. This was an actual sin he committed, though he did rectify it a little later by facing her and finding her feelings true.

>>281130490
faggot

>>281151864
Not true at all. Even he doesn't have a normal relationship with death and while he's not a total psycho about it, his reaction to it still isn't normal.
That said, he's not a self-insert and its the self-inserters who seethe about him the most because he's too much of his own flawed character and what elements they relate to they hate and that he doesn't do whatever they would do and is generally weak makes them mad.

>>281130284 (OP)
Is it safe to say that this scene is the greatest thing produced in the 21st century?

>>281152411
>Not true at all
it literally is you fucking retard, I don't care about that other shit but nobody alive knows what its like to fucking brutally die and get ripped back to life.

>>281148259
>doesn't like traps
Reddit (and especially twitter) loves traps, guess you're a tourist too.

>>281147874
>>281148020
>>281148075
Non-argument. Virtually any series discussed on here to any meaningful extent has redditors latching onto it.

>>281130284 (OP)
Why is Emilia Hijabi in S4?

>>281153861
She had the hijab even in S1, she’s just now wearing it for the intended reason in addition to wearing Fortuna’s outfit

>>281154217
>she’s just now wearing it for the intended reason
Which is? Modesty?

>>281151242
>He's just repulsive
Why is he so repulsive?

>>281152448
Again, not true. At some point during death you simply lose sensation and various real people have "died" except not. People have survived injuries that otherwise would have killed them without intervention therefore they have indeed experienced all that is required to die. Except they aren't dead. Its really easy to simply extrapolate painful experiences too as there are non-lethal things you can be subjected to that are pretty much worse than dying because you continue.
Then that doesn't even cover in a fantasy setting where a variety of characters literally can just die and come back to life and their ability to empathize or relate to Subaru isn't even close to characters who aren't able to do that. There are also characters vastly stronger than Subaru who can be subjected to experiences far worse than him without technically crossing some arbitrary threshold of dying and your dumb ass is sitting here telling me they wouldn't know the first thing about what he feels like.
Finally Subaru's existence isn't simply dying and a person's ability to relate to his experiences doesn't have to do at all with the RbD mechanic in the first place.
What a laughable retard you are that you think he's some unknowable, inhuman monstrosity that no person could understand or relate to because you're such a retard you don't even know what death actually is.

>>281130284 (OP)
He's in the wrong because nobody can know what happened, can't take it out on the people you care about. Other ways to vent.

>>281154543
The hoodie? It inhibits people's ability to recognize her or what she is. Its a magic item.

>>281130284 (OP)
its interesting that isekai stories usually setup harem from get-go but this took a little bit more time to do it and it's the reason I won't be watching anything past this last season

>>281131091
something I found out while watching J-drama's was that the japanese cant help but over-act. Its because without SIGNIFICANTLY varying facial expression they will just wear the same chinky face with slight variation.

>>281155355
What?

>>281130284 (OP)
subaru does his job

>>281130284 (OP)
Subaru wasn't wrong

>>281132351
Laios

>>281141478
You cannot hide your intentions from yourself.
It all becomes an exercise of trying to trick god - little hat behavior.

>>281130284 (OP)
He wasn't really wrong, but from their perspective he's just a weird guy that came out of nowhere and knows more than he should.

>>281155446
Kek anon do you really believe this is something exclusive to japan? Have you never watched or at least heard of tv dramas from india, brazil, turkey, mexico, the philippines, etc? they all do the same shit and it's part of the appeal.

>>281130284 (OP)
Subaru is the man. I love him.

>>281136268
No one force him to be in that place, it's literally "fuck around and find out"

>>281130284 (OP)
You can't expect people to be thankful to you for alternate timelines that they can't perceive.
It might feel unfair but it's how reality works.

>>281145346
case in point: slop leveling

cuckbaru

>>281130284 (OP)
The peak of this piece of shit series right here

>>281130284 (OP)
>I'll insert myself in this situation
>No one call me
>In fact, they told me multiple times "please don't do that"
>I'll still insert myself
>Wait, why aren't you thanking me

>>281151864
Then how do you relate with Rudeus and others protagonist that goes through harsh things? Do they stop being "self-insert" because of impossible situations? Since dying is a problem then does that mean every reincarnated into another world are not self-inserts?

>>281162359
learn english

>>281153739
reddit don't like traps they like bastardized traps "femboys"

>>281130284 (OP)
i love emilia

>>281130490
i dont hate you
i pity you

>>281132095
True, he decided to go through the hurdles, now he has to accept the results like a man.

>>281130284 (OP)
You're trolling, but I unironically think he had a point here, its just that they animated him looking like a total slimeball while saying it, so everyone thinks he was in the wrong.

>>281130284 (OP)
he never was wrong

>>281166304
No he didn't.
Emilia didn't ask him to do anything. He forced himself in her life and abused his power in order to get close to her and then has the gall to rub it in her face.

>>281167739
Well she did bring his unconscious ass to the mansion with the murderous maids that further escalated his mental breakdown.

>>281162359
It's not "why aren't you thanking me," It's "please dont abandon me"

>>281167739
>He forced himself in her life and abused his power in order to get close to her
You retards always make Subaru sound way more based than he actually ks

>>281166304
The intention was that this is how Subaru felt about himself while saying it, but it was sadly taken as the objective point of view. He saw *himself* as ugly and wrong because he couldn't control his emotional outburst and he hated himself for it.

>>281168071
Genuinely this

>>281167897
All Emilia did was help him that one time when he was being mugged during the first episode. Anything that happens afterwards was caused by him abusing his power. Also it's not like he couldn't just have left the mansion after recovering or accepting Roswaal's offer about getting anything he desired as a reward for saving Emilia(even if it was probably a lie) instead he decided to stay and keep being a clingy retard.

>>281168071
>>281168487
I miss being 12 years old too

>>281168615
You still are if you think Subaru’s anywhere near that cool

>>281168919
How the fuck does any of that sound cool
Are you retarded