Thread 281154288

Just finished Episode 6 and I'm completely confused. Takopi used his power to go back in time and fix everything?

I was expecting brutal boss fight between shizuka and takopi and takopi wins and makes Marina happy. why did takopi break his promise to marina-chan?

because takopi's a dumb mudafaka. his whole race is dumb(the mom octopus was like HOW CAN YOU SLAP). for a race whose purpose is to make others happy, i'm surprised they're very immature. or maybe the other aliens are just very simple beings like takopi. anyway sacrificing his life for them feels like a bad ending, i was expecting a better solution with takopi leaving them as a more experienced happian ready to make more people happy.

>>281154288 (OP)
I didn't watch this but I'm just thinking isn't it really sad for takopis mom he just dies and she never knows what happened to him

I didn’t watch this but would everything be better if someone gave Takapi a copy of Doraemon?

>>281154288 (OP)
Wtf was that ending
>they're friends because...an octopus scribble
>azuma's "good ending" just completely ignoring shizuka instead of, idk, telling the teacher about the bullying and trying to be genuine friends without the pussywhipped savior complex
>I guess they're just chill with each other now?

What? Also what's with Japan having bullies randomly skip to being friends with the people they bullied? You can make peace with people who've wronged you, and you can apologize to people you've wronged, but that doesn't mean that they should be friends or want to have anything to do with eachother.

>>281154288 (OP)
Bro, learn to use the catalog.

>>281154288 (OP)
necrobump for you op

What a fucking waste of time this show was. Interesting premise but it falls flat on it's face halfway through and by the finale we're 6 feet under. I guess that's what i deserve for falling into hype.

>>281154604
He was exiled from ever going back to his home planet so a heroic suicide probably was the best option.

>>281154604
Takopi feels like a criticism of something. I want to say "toxic positivity" but that's not it, because Takopi isn't just positive despite the suffering of others, Takopi is literally ignorant of the suffering of others. Takopi does not understand them and just acts on its own prejudices. Feels like the whole thing is more of a critique of organizations that look out for other people without actually knowing the people they're looking out for. The kind of people who say "let's try doing this thing" or "we stand with this group of people" and the group of people they're talking about or trying to help never asked in the first place or just stare at them dumbfounded because they act like they know everything but only know what THEY want to know. Something like that. Takopi eventually figures out that the best thing for it to do is to not be directly involved but instead rewind time and serve more as an "impression"; a concept or an idea, that can inspire or remind people.

sequel will be the takopians declaring war on earth

>>281154872
>Wtf was that ending
Takopi impacted both Shizuka and Marina's lives by being a source of relief from their pain, even if his ideas were naive. It was the one thing that brought them happiness even briefly. Takopi made sure that Marina and Shizuka remembered the feelings on a subconscious level and that mystery brought them together. A bizarre coincidence that neither understood.

Advanced technology made the aliens retarded or something...

Hahahahaha that was it?

>>281154288 (OP)
Takopi became the dog

>>281156335
Probably an exaggerated parody on how scientists have often believed that any sufficiently advanced alien species capable of traveling the universe would have had to first solved all social issues and achieved universal peace or something.

>>281154288 (OP)
No he didn't he used his powers to just go back in time and fix nothing. But the girls remembered their interactions with him just avguely enough to sort out their differences.

>>281155794
totally avoidable if everyone in the series was less retarded
>>281156304
i wouldn't really think of them as criticisms to orgs, because there's always an agenda when a nonsensical org is made. i like to think takopi's race is just that simple minded, hakuna matata stuff. and it's probably the first time they encountered socials complication from earth. because if i remembered correctly the other aliens are very easy to please too like the cat planet.

>>281156304
It's saying, stop acting like you understand everything. Be more humble. Be kind instead.

Also, I think it's loosely related to Japanese culture of listening to your elders which I think has lead to a pretty good society. It's because elders likely understand the complications of their field better than the naive younglings who tend to shoot from the hip thinking the solution is obvious when in reality they don't understand anything. Like with everything else, I would guess this culture is dying in modernizing Japan so the author wanted to give a reminder.

>critique of organizations
I didn't think of this, but since there was that kind of out of place tangent about 10th covid shot and psych meds that cause nightmares, you may be on to something. However the parallel doesn't work because in case with Takopi, he was genuinely good, just stupid, whereas the medical field simply aims to leech as much profits from the population with unhelpful/harmful medical solutions. But maybe the Japanese just aren't aware of this yet and think pharmaseutical corporations are trying their best to save the world.

>>281156304
I think you're overthinking it, this was just edgy doraemon, doraemon arrives in the life of a little girl who's life is completely fucked and his cartoony hijinks just make everything worse, things escalate from there and the resolution is to remove himself from the situation which leads to the girls achieving some understanding
It reminds me a bit of that Clarissa comic, it's just fun to see one of this magical cartoon characters arrive in the life of someone too fucked for them to help

>>281156568
That's effectively magic.

The 'Original Sin' in the title is specifically referring to original sin as described in Genesis and if your reading of the series does not take into account Commandments or the Trinity or at least vague concepts these and of the natural state of sinfulness, I can promise you that you are missing the point.

Takopi is basically a kid trying to fix adult issues.
Ofcourse he was never going to succeed.
His "happy gadgets" are not going to fix domestic violence.
The whole show is commentary on how trauma breeds more trauma.
Every character has negative traits that they inherited from their parents.
Marina is physically violent.
Shizuka is manipulative.
Azuma is constantly looking for validation.
Takopi in turn inherits a bit of everyone.
Takopi in this context can be seen as the children's child.
He is pure innocence when he first lands on earth.
He then becomes more violent after being physically abused by Marina.
He becomes a downright psychopath from Shizuka manipulating him into thinking killing Marina was a good thing.
He starts doubting himself and calling himself stupid after Azuma verbally abuses him almost every sentence.
Parents shape their children, who in turn shape their own children.
Until this cycle is broken, which is what Takopi's sacrifice symbolizes.

>>281158640
Didn't think of it that way, that's a pretty interesting interpretation that rings true

>>281154288 (OP)
>takes away everything from her leaving himself as her only source of happiness
>im off to make some other version of you happy!
i laughed so hard at this bit
the only thing that would have made it funnier is if there was a reveal that every timp jump just split a multiverse and so he's ultimately responsible for hundreds of unhappy lives

>>281156304
the entire premise is a criticism of utilitarianism

Well, anon, can you do it?

>>281158640
That is way too succinct and well-reasoned for this board, /a/non.

>>281156304
The curtains are blue

>>281154288 (OP)
kino show

>>281154288 (OP)
necrobump for your multithread gen

>>281163694
thanks

>>281154288 (OP)
marina was evil too

>>281166751
commendable necro

anons... the emptiness is creeping in. It's less than 48 hours since I finished and I already feel like rewatching. I already read all the explanations and critiques.
It's one of those anime that just lives in your head like something important has been left unresolved and you can't figure out what.

>>281166953
just gotta foster some children into happy homes ex dee

It's really interesting to see how massively different the average reaction seems to be between the japanese and western audiences. While the japanese viewership seems to sympathize with both children and their awful circumstances, including the feeling of helplessness in the face of a public school system that doesn't care about them, the western reaction seems to focus on trying to find a definitive "culprit" to shift all of the blame on, sometimes even to the point where they hold a literal 9-year old child directly responsible. Internet edgelords trying to one-up another, wishing for the death of a child not as a heat-of-the-moment impulse reaction, but even doubling down on it later on Twitter and other platforms. Whether it's done for views or for controversy, it's revolting either way.

when shizuke kills takopi does the timeline switch? Im confused about the continuity there.

>>281167575
too long i dont read but the western neo-pedo-marxist empire is evil i agree

>>281158640
The one anon with the ability to actually read

The mangaka didn't know how to end his work
so he pulled BvS Martha

The final episode was a fucking huge cop-out. After the 5th episode I thought shit was going to get real but instead we get this tacked on lukewarm crap.
If this follows the manga plot then this must be with 99% certainty because of Shonen Jump's editorial intervention as no self respecting author would write this willingly.

>>281167707
more likely it was because the author doesn't hate humanity as much as his work may suggest
praise jeesus, adam and eve, not bill gates and steve jobs ok

>>281167809
>>281167707
Read his other works
he doesn't know how to end a story

>psychopaths and edgelords who want to see as much suffering as possible are confused by a hopeful ending that doesn't erase the awful things that have happened, but shows how to move on from them in a positive way
Why are low IQ brown people like that?

>>281167575
So how do the Japanese cope with the sadness? I guess just extreme resolve to be better for kids in real life?

>>281168354
I don't even understand the question. You do realize that really awful things happen all the time in real life without ever getting resolved either, right?

>>281167940
What other works? I can find only one and that was also published by Jump Comics. Pretty sure it's a classic case of "oops this is getting too dark, can't publish this in a family friendly comic book. think about the advertisers!"

>>281168471
holy fuck

>>281168470
- watch sad movie
- feel sad and emotional
- Western cope: blame certain characters to isolate the problem "if only for x, everything would be alright"
- Japan: more widely empathize with characters. But how do they cope? Just tank the emotional damage like zen buddha? Like what are some common sentiments?

I feel empty now, bros.
I don't really care about any other anime airing this season.
Wtf am I going to do for the next 6 weeks?

Hmm hmm hmm... indeed. But I think

>>281158640
nailed it. I didn't even think about how things were affecting Takopi himself.

>>281157941
So the original sin is takopi knowleadge of good and evil?

>>281168806
I haven't really read many reactions, but it has become western, especially American, culture to blame someone other than oneself while Japanese always turn inward because they feel that society is never wrong (due to collectivist thought), so if something happens to them, they are to blame somehow. As for how Japanese cope, they smoke and drink a lot and often have massive mental breakdowns and it is considered normal.

>>281169839
There is definitely a religious connotation to this. "Genzai" is written with the kanji for "original sin" which is also used in Japanese language Christian Bibles to refer to that same concept. You could interpret this in a ton of ways. 1). Takopi learns good and evil. 2) Takopi is God, actively trying to guide humanity but fails and then fades away into obscurity with only the "love of God" left in the hearts of the humans to guide them on a moral path, and the original sin is the separation of Marina and Shizuka from Takopi (God).

>>281170125
You're slightly off about the collectivist thought prevalent in japanese society. "Society can do no wrong" isn't true at all. Blaming society for how these children turned out is the collectivist approach actually.

Just finished and sure if I'm retarded or ending is retarded. So Takopi went back to past and... left? killed himself? And now everyone is happy, although in original timeline everything went to shit, because... they remember Takopi due some interdenominational magic? What about Naoki, he got better because of conversation with his brother that never happened, not Takopi, but he's cool also?
Did manga explain things better?

>just finished

Speaking of finishing, today when I was masturbating in front of my queen size bed (width 140cm), I was so fucking errect and thinking about lillie (that blonde pokemon trainer), I had a scenario set up in my head where I had an ai analyze her fear/arousal/pain/shame in real time to find her worst fears and then torture her with it, I nutted so hard that the cum hit my wall, it's the farthest I ever nutted.

I was watching the fun fly through the air, and it was like PUMP PUMP PUMP, It was 8 pumps with the first 3 hitting the wall the last 5 a bit shorter.

Feeling so good I wish I had a girl like that in my room, I'd force her to keep my cum in her mouth and kneel on frozen peas for hours while I'm away doing something and when I come back she is just begging for me to allow her to swallow it. After she's swallowed it and thanked me I'd punish her anyways because the peas melted. She's gonna say stuff like "but what could I have done peas melt" but then I'm just gonna punish her more. A good girl should be able to keep the peas frozen. So I would take the nipple clamps with the bells and force them tight on her nipples.

Then I'd take a tail anal plug and cover it in Carolina reaper paste and as she is flailing in the corner begging for me to fuck her instead, to use hot wax or electroshocks. I just take her and force my cock inside and force her to say how much she loves it as I then rape her pussy whilst pulling on her hair and then slamming her head into the floor. The bells on her nipples make noises the entire time humiliating her.
Once I finish inside I would force her to suck my feet, even lick between the toes.
I would insult her the entire time, and then she would be a good girl and take in my whole foot in her mouth whilst I'm whipping her.

>>281170949
MOOOOOOOOOOODS

I truly do not understand how such a surface level work could fool so many people into thinking it's anything more than babby's first emotionally manipulative work.
If you've watched more than 10 anime then you would catch the shit this show is trying to pull instantly.

>>281154288 (OP)
At least Shizuka won in the original timeline
>cucked psycho bitch Marinara and which led her to kill herself
>has a turbo simp wrapped around her finger who will obey her every whim, and all she had to do was walk by him ONE (1) time

>>281170823
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2014:15-31&version=NIV

>>281170949
>Thinking of Lillie instead of JK marina-chan in a takopi thread
Ngmi

>the japanese catch the obvious christian analogy in this story better than westerners
It's hilarious how braindead western normalfags are.

>>281168354
仕方ない。

>>281160669
>>281156304
The whole show is clearly a reference to Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment, and Takopi is Raskolnikov that commits a crime for a good cause, but fucks up.

>>281171336
There is no "obvious Christian analogy". It's literally set dressing to make it seem more exotic to the nips.
There is literally no way you can meaningfully connect Takopi to the concept of the Christian "Original Sin" unless you want to do some serious mental gymnastics.
This show is such a crock of shit it continually astounds me that people treat it with any level of seriousness.

>>281170823
>everyone is happy
Marina throws it at your damn face that things are still fucked up and you simply ignore that because they weren't being miserable for 30 seconds.

>>281154288 (OP)
He lives!

>>281171448
Just because it's a bad analogy doesn't mean there is no analogy at all.

>>281171496
True enough, a bad analogy is worse than none at all.
Out of all the ways these braindead anons slobber on the Octopus' cock, the pseudo-religious bullshit is the tippy top of the retardation mountain.
Midwit shit.

Some anon help me because I'm retarded, how the hell did Azuma have the camera after he told his brother about the murders? Did the police not even ask him about the murder weapon or did he clean it and hide it? or did his brother take the fall?

>>281171336
The problem is this show left its target audience in the west and got picked up by normalfags looking for reactionbait. Their minds are too rotted by shonen and isekai to do anything but desperately try and assign shit like powerlevels and pointless mechanics to literal plot devices

>>281171625
You're shitting solely on the west when it's a universal given that if you think Takopi is good on any level then you are a mouth breathing retard.
Stupidity and follower mentality is universal, you know.

>>281171625
I remember seeing some dude (pretty sure it was one of the really big reaction guys in the west) constantly asking who the strongestestest mage is in Frieren, even during the scene where Frieren mentions that she lost 11 times against other mages with less mana than her.

>>281171047
But I watched more than 10 anime and I didn't catch it :(

>>281171047
>>281171448
>>281171607
>>281171677
Trying too hard.

Seeing mongoloids like NicholasTV receive huge backlash over his internet tough guy melty already makes this anime of the year for me.

I understand the criticism of the ending, but I thought it was pretty good.
Probably the best ending without leaning too much to either "happy" or "sad"

>>281171790
Please stop drinking paint.

>>281171617
I don't know, maybe it got explained in the manga, but I assume he just hid it from the police.

>>281171790
>Takoshit enjoyers actually watch reactiontubers and their drama
Absolutely, 100% vindicated in all of my opinions over this normalfag garbage.

>Takopii is banished from paradise
>Shizuka's entire character raises the question of how she could be evil even though she's blessed
>Climactic monologue from Azuma telling you it's innate and contradictory
>"There is no "obvious Christian analogy". It's literally set dressing"
It's basic as fuck but you can't say they only put 原罪 in the title to make it sound interesting,. There's a thematic follow through at least.

>>281154288 (OP)
Cause Marina is a fucking cunt, all the shit Shizuka did was justified, including killing her

>>281154288 (OP)
I was genuinely expecting Madoka-tier shenanigans with Takopi becoming evil and Kuze sinking into hardcore bpd shit or some huge plot twist

Also thought there'd be 12 episodes and it was gearing toward something

What the fuck was this ending
Should I read the manga?

>>281172531
Reading the manga won't help you.

chance of season 2?

>>281174242
ask the mangaka to write more

Shizuka kidnapped Satsuki and Eri, kept them confined for a month, tortured them, and turned them into cicadas using the transformation palette and fed it to Takopi. She used the transformation palette to turn random animals into lookalikes of the two girls and released them as substitutes.

>>281167701
The real takeaway, the author needed to deus ex a happier resolution after reversing everything, and so they went with, it's magic I don't have to explain shit

>>281174468
She couldn't kill Takopii, so she wasn't capable of actual murder in the end.
She said it so herself when it came to Marina. She wanted to kill her but didn't have the guts.

>>281154288 (OP)
how many timelines are there even? it's unsatisfying that all the timelines are intertwined, the show could've been better without all that crap

>>281174468
How detailed was this in the manga? The absence of most of the Tokyo plot was a bit disappointing.

i'm a slowpoke and just finished watching
so this was the ending people were disappointed in

>>281166953
It's one of life's mysteries: filling the gaping void in our hearts

>>281169636
Rewatch the show again

>>281171625
I would want to believe it would help them branch out into better shows that are more thought provoking than seasonal slop, but I don't have much hope for them. At least they're watch something that isn't retard bait when they watch Takopi.

>>281172531
You got a plot twist: a happy ending. Be Shook.

>>281178075
That never happens. Normalfags watched Look Back ("it's from the creator of Chainsaw Man!!!") and could only communicate in memes about it. None of them understood anything that happened in that film, they all thought the massacre was just some lolsorandom moment from the wacky CSM author.

>>281176567
>My time travel anime would've been better without all that time travel nonsense

>>281155668
We told you. There's a reason why the manga wasn't considered top-tier

>>281172531
>Madoka-tier shenanigans with Takopi becoming evil and Kuze sinking into hardcore bpd shit
That sounds terrible

>>281177191
That didn't actually happen, anon.

>>281178199
Every time travel story would be better without time travel and with good writing instead.

>>281155668
I could have told you that from episode 1 alone. It was obviously made as misery-porn first, story never. The only way this story even worked is for literally everyone involved to be the worst possible human beings. I know people kind of suck sometimes, but the odds of every single motherfucker being on the evil spectrum is unlikely.

>>281178166
Failing kids for not being able to understand media should be a thing again. Or not understanding how to read or write.
Even then, it would probably just lead to normalfags expressing awful opinions a more coherent manner; rather than being able to think critically in any form.
It's really depressing that Japan seems to be one of the only societies that isn't actively degenerating before our eyes,

>>281178379
Japanese people have other problems. They're able to critically think when it comes to media, but they're extremely subservient when it comes to other matters. Most japanese school children, for example, will answer the question "Why is stealing wrong?" with "Because you get punished.". While it's a net positive that they take this seriously, it's not really an understanding of moral values.

>>281178365
But all the adults in the show weren't evil. They were just normal-tier awful, except for maybe Marina's mom. If they were evil, they would actively be making their lives worse instead of just not caring about their lives at all.

>>281178459
Yeah, not every society is perfect, unfortunately. For example, Japan doesn't have as many race issues because they're incredibly racist and not many other races immigrate there for work. While Japanese society isn't degrading, it does suck.

>>281178509
Please.... ignoring such obvious abuse makes you evil. Not AS evil as the ones doing the abuse, but still...

>>281178826
It's always interesting to me how many people don't understand that outsiders don't actually see what happens to a person once they leave their field of vision. It's like the breakfast question for normalfags or something.

>what do you mean the teacher didn't see them almost kill each other? but I saw it happen!

>>281178826
Are you doing something about the Evils of the world? What have you done lately to fix the problems of society? Perhaps, we can say that we, as individuals have no power to help. Does this make us evil?

>thought provoking
>conclusion is yurishit
lol
lmao

>>281178940
>two girls being friendly to each other means they are lesbians
Retard.

>>281178951
Retarded, but based.

>>281178992
Look, I enjoy yuri. Two cute girls kissing each other is something most men appreciate in some way. But it gets lame and reductive if every single genuine friendship is reduced to mindless eros.

>>281179013
It is, you're not wrong at all. But I like yuri and the enemies-to-lovers trope. The ending is ambiguous enough that you can construe it as either kind of relationship.

>>281167575
Sadly shows like this expose the IQ of the general population. The reactions to this show have been the embodiment of "small minds discuss people". When presented with more complete information about a character, they are incapable of recontextualizing previous events in light of the newer information and looking at the story again from a higher order of thinking. Instead, they simply flip the script.

Questions like "is it perhaps not all black and white?", "could it be that someone being a victim doesn't make them an angel?", "could one acknowledge how an individual's circumstances could lead them to commit such actions without using them as a justification for said actions?", etc. never come to their mind. They can only think in terms of "The story told me A was good and B was evil. Now the story is painting B in a good light, so that must mean it's actually B who is good and A who was evil all along." And as you said, the fact that they're saying this about literal children just makes it even more ridiculous.

>>281178913
This is another common one. "Durr why are these characters so stupid for not knowing [information I only know because I'm the audience, not a character in the story, and the author wanted the audience to know this information]?" They are incapable of putting themselves in the shoes of the characters in the story.

It's a shame that the term "media literacy" has been reduced to a meaningless buzzword, because there isn't a more apt phrase to describe this phenomenon than "poor media literacy".

>>281179765
>They can only think in terms of "The story told me A was good and B was evil. Now the story is painting B in a good light, so that must mean it's actually B who is good and A who was evil all along."
Absolutely nailed it. It's the lack of being able to recontextualize.

>>281179873
A lot of it stems from the inability to say that you were wrong about something. It's okay and normal to be wrong about things and to admit to it. You wouldn't say you were right about the math problem you messed up? Perhaps it stems from a failure in education and parenting, since many teachers are forced to pass failing students and many parents fail to let their kids learn about how to overcome failure.

why did their uniforms differ again?

>>281154288 (OP)
Takopi's race is dumb af, but at least he understood that the japanese are also dumb as fuck and most of their problems come from not talking things out.

>>281179765
I think a greater test of IQ is if the general audience is able to apply some critical thinking skills to a flawed and shallow story, instead of taking it hook, line, and sinker, and believing it's AOTY just for having children suffering and a lot of crying.
This anime is so damn blatant with it's messaging that it's insulting to people who like to actually dive into media and unravel subtle themes.

>>281180473
Brown uniform is for poor people with bad grades.

>>281180531
Low EQ Anons just won't "get" Takopi, or why it's so good. Good shows don't need to be subtle to be good.

>he's still seething and fishing for (You)s
Get over it already, shonentard.

>>281180531
I think a greater test of mental stability is still being this mad about the show for six weeks

>>281179013
Yes you can appreciate it when there’s a guy involved in the kissing as well. I have no clue why people can’t understand something so simple

>>281180755
When you see a show that is so damn blatant and manipulative fool the vast majority of people into thinking it's something greater, you can't help but get mad. How fucking on the nose does something have to be until people start to actually question the quality of what they're watching? Of course it's infuriating when your among a sea of blind yes-men.
>>281180747
I despise shounenshit, you're just labelling because you don't want to listen.

>>281180531
A message doesn't always have to be subtle to be impactful. A well-written story without subtext that beats you over the head with its meaning is in no way inferior to a story of similar quality but with a focus on ambiguity.

>>281154604
Ignorance is bliss, and their race is bliss incarnate.

There are shows that are truly worthless and massively overrated like Frieren that you could actually argue against if you care about having standards. I'm not sure why you would spend so much time railing against a show that's still at least solid even if it's "manipulative" and patronizing or whatever your problem is. You're not going to convince anyone to call it bad because it isn't. The only reason to still be at it is to farm replies

>>281154604
>or maybe the other aliens are just very simple beings like takopi
This is my headcanon as well. Earth just happens to be a backwards shithole. It's a pretty common trope in scifi anyway.

>>281180930
This. I think it's a solid 7.5 - 8 frankly, but it's not really worth the effort to autistically try and convince people giving it a 10 not to do so. It's not my job to make people with shit taste have better taste.

>>281180930
I'm not farming replies, I'm willingly screaming into the void because I see hordes of sheep praise a deceptive show that is designed to prey on emotions. I am 100% sure that it's one of those "praise it because it's popular" shows, given how much the normalfags have latched on to it.
I think Frieren is OK, it's an above average fantasy with some good moments. If you actually want to talk about this, then I would say that Frieren is much more organic and authentic about it's emotions, comparing it to Takopii. You take a character, build them up, then see them come crashing down. With Takopii there is only the crashing down, there's no buildup, there's no meat to the characters.

10/10 show. Loved it from start to finish.

>>281180973
I just have to look at the news to understand that the people of earth just suck. Imagine sending Takopi to a warzone to help make people happy...

My favorite part is the OP, I love hearing Ontan sing

>>281181062
The vast majority of people are good. Get over yourself.

>>281181053
I like having my emotions preyed upon by cute anime octopi and morally ambiguous anime girls.

>>281181062
If Takopi was dropped into a WW2 zone or something and saw the carnage, gore and the effort that humanity put in just to directly harm each other he would become an absolute psychopath back home and probably destroy his own race as well.

>>281180531
>>281180864
And to just to add on to this anons comment. Even if you believe its a poor-written story with no subtext, it excels in just about every thing else. The animation is consistently high quality with some interesting scene composition. This alone puts Takopi in the running for AOTS. The voice acting, ost and sound design were also top notch. I get it if you don't like the work. But dismissing it as low IQ garbage on /a/ of all places just because its misery porn or lacks subtly is beyond retarded.

>>281181134
>The vast majority of people are good
More like, the vast majority of people want to be perceived as "good". We don't know the thoughts of others, and thus won't know for sure.

So the morale of this show is that women are fucking evil?

>>281154288 (OP)
What were you expecting?

>>281181242
Your second statement directly undermines your first.

>>281181191
I disagree. Anime is comprised of the elements you said: animation, composition, soundtrack, and story, plus some other things I'm probably glossing over.
Yet the core of an anime is the story, the message behind it. Otherwise you're literally just turning your brain off to watch pretty pictures and sounds, meanwhile a dogshit thread of plots occurs with little to no coherence.
A bad story should always tank an anime, if you have any self respect for your intelligence and time. Yeah, Takopii has an amazing quality of animation and a soundtrack that's still stuck in my head, but the shitty story brings this down to a 6/10, at best.

>>281181181
>Takopi is sent to WW2 Japan
We gotta kill all the westerners -Pi!
Praise the Emperor -Pi!
Banzai -PI!

>>281181296
Damn, you're right. I guess we'll never know the truth.

There were two clear solutions to the Marina and Shizuka issue, and Takopi chose neither. Both ways involve going further back and stopping Shizuka's mom from fucking Marina's dad. Marina's dad was the catalyst for every problem because he couldn't just be happy with his wife and daughter. He just had to go fuck a whore (Shizuka's mom) and ruin everything.

Takopi's original sin was that he didn't arrive earlier and use his happy gadgets to make Marina's parents be less shit.

>>281181298
I think you overstate how "bad" the story of Takopi is. It's just mediocre.

>>281181268
We're all evil to some degree and for most it would be justified to act in evil ways. But its better for everyone if we try to do our best, to be kind to each other, to reach out to the people we know and to be someone that others can hold onto when things get hard, and as shit as it may be, to be the one that takes the punches and doesn't continue the cycle.
>>281181242
>More like, the vast majority of people want to be perceived as "good".
Does it even matter? If you act in good ways i don't think the reasoning being dumb or vapid matters at the end of the day.

>>281181298
>Yet the core of an anime is the story
The core of an anime is the animation and everything that ties into it. Otherwise it would be a book.

>>281181456
>Does it even matter?
A bit. It goes back to the whole "does the method or the result matter more" debate. The answer depends on your point of view.

>>281181442
>>281181191
>I didn't like it. That means its bad.

>>281181053
Even the good parts of Frieren near the beginning were "manipulative". It has the same problem you claim Takopii has, where it belabors a whole scene or arc about some loss that happened previously. The music will swell and the camera will pan and the MC will mumble something about her journey as a hero and the show hopes you'll let that move you before you realize the whole thing depends on you caring about their generic former quest in the first place. Or, if you don't, it hopes you'll at least ignore that to hype it up as the greatest thing ever with everyone else. That's enough to be upsetting even before it gives up on even attempting something novel and plays out the rest of its runtime as a well composed, if heavily disappointing, story.
Takopii expects you to have an emotional response, yeah, its subject matter is innately inflammatory and it leans on it to keep you invested. The characters don't need an entire arc to get you hooked because they're archetypes. You're meant to identify with them before you even know their names. The same goes for Frieren, difference being that the latter relies on mediocre and boring archetypes in the first place. Fantasy schlock prints money though, child abuse generally doesn't. The popularity of Takopii wasn't calculated, I think it just resonated with a lot of people. Faulting it for that is like calling puppies "manipulative" for getting the braindead masses to pet them

>>281181661
Is it really manipulative when it’s trying to sell the show by improving the unappealing source material? If it goes to shit then it’s just obvious that the writer either gave up or ran out of ideas

>>281155668
this, this anime is complete garbage don't watch

>>281181298
Hard disagree. A good story that fails at everything else is worthless. What matters the creativity and skilled required to convey information in a way that words alone cannot. but that information doesn't have to be a story. It can purely be an appreciation of movement or emotion. As long as its properly conveyed. Yes, a poor story a hinder how a show connects with its audience, but if you are going to evaluate a show beyond your own preferences, you need to look past just the story.

>>281181433
Takopi didn't use his tentacles properly

>>281181833
oh god Shizuka, time to get CORRECTED

>>281158640
>Whole point [...] trauma breeds more trauma
>And some people still don't classify this as misery porn

>>281181883
If it has a point, then it's not misery porn

>>281156322
Yeah it was meant to be kind of stupid and irrational because kids do things for stupid and irrational reasons. They're volatile creatures whose emotions can completely change based on the smallest things. Takopi left an impression on them strong enough for the both of them to remember and bond over, even if to them it was just a drawing and feelings they didn't understand. Anyone asking for an ending where they sit down and have a heart to heart about the complexities of abuse in the household has just never spoken to a 9 year old in their life.

>>281171438
Raskolnikov's crime was never for a good cause, he just convinced himself that it could be.

>>281181883
>trauma porn is when a series portrays trauma

>>281181191
>I'm bored out of my mind watching this, but it has good production value: masterpiece.

>>281175467
Takopii is built different from humans

>>281170125
>"Genzai" is written with the kanji for "original sin" which is also used in Japanese language Christian Bibles to refer to that same concept
Isn't the "Original Sin" in the Christian bible the disobedience of god, not the knowledge of good and evil? Genuinely asking since I'm not very familiar with Christianity

>>281182568
>>281182706
Just two girls doing girl things

>>281181268
No. It’s that people need only someone to bear the pain of life with them. To not be alone and they can try to make do with he situation life dealt with them.
You can be the takopii to someone else and be there as a support to truly understand. We can’t magically fix everything but we can support each other along the way.

parents also need to become better people if they ever want to have a child.

This show has so many life lessons these are just two off the top of my head.

>>281182707
It's kind of both. Gaining knowledge of Good and Evil by disobeying God's orders to not eat the fruit.

In the ending where Marina says it was Shizuka's fault that Marina mom was having a bad day, does this imply Marina's dad was still going to see Shizuka's mom? I find it hard to believe that Marina dad would stay committed to one whore for at least 8 years even as she became haggier.
But what if what Marina said was literal and it was because Marina mom found out her daughter was hanging around the Kuze daughter?

>>281182948
Marina's parents got a divorce because of Shizuka's mom which ruined Marina's mom psychologically as we see in the first timeline, she just means in a long-term way.

>>281172048
anon get a life :3

>>281182948
Pretty sure he was just burning all his money in some hostess club and Marina's mom (and her) saw every woman in that line of work as the potential culprit

Maybe the real Takopii was the friends we made along the way

>>281183093
Be the Takopi you've always wanted.

>>281182902
That's an interesting way to think about it. I think the only hangup I have about it is that Mama in Takopi doesn't exactly fit the role of god in that context. I'm curious if you think the same? Or do you think Mama isn't meant to represent god?

>>281183455
nta but she kind of does as she kicks Takopi from Heaven (Planet Happy) but also the religion parallels are easily the least interesting and fleshed out aspect of the series anyway

why is marina's mom so concerned with her getting a boyfriend isn't she like 8

>>281154288 (OP)
The story was painfully mid but with great artistic direction, this same team should just adapt Oyasumi Pun Pun, that will create a bigger ruckus internet wide.

2nd season is a sports anime

>>281183618
I think she was projecting herself onto her daughter, which is why she snapped when she heard that Azuma won't come to dinner with Marina because he was with Shizuka. Because it reminded her of her own problems with her husband being stolen away by another woman.

>>281183795
I think that's fairly obvious. Why are so many anons having trouble understanding basic things and asking stupid questions? At this point I almost believe that the OP isn't a joke.

>>281183897
>I think that's fairly obvious. Why are so many anons having trouble understanding basic things and asking stupid questions?
i dont see how being upset with your own marriage would compel you to have a panic attack when your prepubescent daughter's first ever relationship doesn't work out

>>281183927
You're hopeless. I won't be able to make you understand so instead I'll say this
>prepubescent
She's in high school at that point. You couldn't even follow basic plot points.

>>281183962
nothing about her appearance in that scene suggests her being a teenager

>>281183962
>>281184000
also azuma in that same segment has a prepubescent voice

>>281184000
their uniform

>>281184084
why would teenage azuma's balls not have dropped
or is she 16 dating a 9 year old

>>281184000
they're 10 in 2016 which makes them 16 in 2022

>>281184133
why didnt she get any taller

>>281184000
>>281183618
It's not explicitly stated but it's pretty fucking obvious, and if you want confirmation the chapter/episode is called "To You in 2022" and the first chapter/episode is called "To You in 2016", do the match.
Also her mom was obsessed with it because she blamed herself for ruining her daughter's life by giving her a scar that made everyone dislike her and when Azuma showed interest it made her mom think she could actually be a good mom and her daughter wasn't hopeless.

>>281184153
why do she and azuma not get taller and why isnt azuma's voice deepened

>>281184188
They all very noticeably got taller you're just blind and retarded.

>>281184253
they look like they've gained about one inch
also you didnt address the second point

>>281184269
They clearly gained more than one inch and it's not infeasible for puberty to hit someone late.

is this anime actually good? I read the manga and it was cringe and bad and everyone agreed it was trash

>>281184291
If you didn't like the manga you won't like the anime, it's the exact same story with better presentation.

>>281184287
>it's not infeasible for puberty to hit someone late.
men hit puberty at 12 years
even less in a developed country like japan
so why don't you just admit they just didn't think of it

>>281184269
She's a lot taller relative to the light switch.

So nothing is actually resolved about their atrocious families but at least they have each other

What is actually meant to be the takeaway to this story because I found penguindrum rather pretentious but this puts even that to shame

>>281171617
Shikuka handed the bloodstained camera to him in a ziploc bag (when she told him to make a false confession to the police) didn't she? We don't know what if anything Azuma told his brother or what if anything he told the police. Azuma seems to have cleaned the camera. The brother got fired from his part time job and probably won't be able to go to university. But that sounds like something more minor than being charged with murder. (Maybe he gave the police a false alibi to protect Azuma which was disproven or something.)

>>281184429
Life sucks and there is no magical fix to it, you just got to thug it out but at least you can thug it out together.

Or something like that, the ending should've had an entire episode dedicated to it.

>>281184429
With that finale, that you should kill yourself because you will never get a deux ex machina alien octopus to come and save you

>>281184491
The ending is left as an exercise for the viewer

>>281184394
Exactly. And that is enough
That is enough for them to have each other, they can live through life even if it's shitty. They will reach adulthood because they know someone cares about them and can relate and will be there with them now to hear each other out.

They are BFFs and traumabonding due to the same shitty situation in life they are in and how shit their parents are.

>>281184429
How does it feel to live without emotions, Anon?

>>281184429
Kill aliens on sight.

>>281184291
It was pretty good, but if you didn't like the manga you wouldn't like the anime

>>281184611
BakaTakos are for loving.

In the week or so that Takopi keeps futilely using the happy camera for a do over (to prevent Chappi dying and Shizuka suiciding) there seems to be infinite timelines.

>>281183785
>>281183799
lmao

>>281167615
No, she can't seem to kill him. But Takopi gets his memory back from her banging his head with a rock. Then he remembers the events of 2022 when Marina was the human he originally befriended (before travelling back in time to 2016, on a mission to kill Shizuka for Marina, which he later forgets about.)

>>281184667
This show has one existing actual timeline.
The show seems to not be using the Multiple-Universe Theory.

It's a single timeline so if someone goes back the whole thing universe is actually reversed.

Look at these niggas

>>281184743
>No, she can't seem to kill him.
Yeah takopi is fucking indestructible. Alien's are built different.

>>281158640
Marina is Islam, Shizuka is Judaism, Azuma is Christianity

>>281184361
okay this makes sense i'll concede this point but not azuma's voice not deepening

>>281184771
I want one soooo bad. I'm gonna wait for the price to go down a bit and order a 2nd hand one or a cheap 1st hand one but the quality one only.

Thinking of what size is best. I'm thinking a 1:1 Takopii size is what I want

>>281184772
but he can kill himself, right?

>>281184784
Yes just like how diamond can cut diamond

>>281154288 (OP)
it's a very low IQ anime, just enjoy the cute girls getting abused and sometimes being happy, it's like a retarded Higurashi if the point of Higurashi was you need other people to be happy, well they got the talking thing so I guess that's good enough

>>281184779
I’m gonna go with a cheaper option which it’s requesting someone to make me a crochet Takopii.

>>281184779
Just make one yourself. I believe in you -pi!

>>281184795
while this was an easy 6/10 for me higurashi is substantially worse
that author is an absolute hack and his involvement in silent hill f immediately destroyed my hype for that game

>>281184429
if you're going to be a parent, don't neglect the kid, don't fight in front of the kid, don't put unfair pressure on the kid to succeed

>>281184825
That game didn't even look good in the trailer. A creepy town explored by a little girl? The setup is pretty cliche if you ask me. I'd like to be wrong and for there to be more than what was shown at face value, but I'm not holding my breath.

>>281174468
this series reminds me of Erased, and makes me think of Shiki, as an inferior misery kino bretheren to it kind of way, I even think the author knew his talents were limited and that if he went of in directions like actually kidnapping Satsuki/Eri it would cross the point of no return pretty fast where you woudn't really be able to redeem Shizuka so it's better he ended it sooner rather than later

>>281184394
also Chappy lives, Marina grows up without a scar and Azuma recovers from being an obsessive swat and doesn't get sucked into a destructive romantic relationship

>>281184890
>A creepy town explored by a little girl The setup is pretty cliche if you ask me.
That’s unironically SH, except for SH4

>>281184778
That's a japan thing where they keep the same actors no matter the context. The most famous one being Goku voiced by a granny.

>>281184912
>Marina grows up without a scar
this is another thing i feel like the plot severely overemphasizes her having a little scar on her cheek
that really isn't that unattractive

>>281184825
the thing is the author for Higurashi is actually capable of planning out mystery and suspense over a long form series that doesn't immediatly pay of but all comes together, and this guy clearly just has to go from beat to beat with it all barely holding together, it's good this series is so short cause a longer series people would realize how shoddy it is if they had to go to into the details of motivation of any given character or scenario

>>281184905
I'd love to read a spinoff where Shizuka actually offed Takopi and had to live with the consequences with his happy gadgets. There's so many ways it could go.

>>281184291
>everyone
who is that lol

>>281184946
It's a Japanese thing. They're fucking stupid about stuff like that. The scar is cool, imo.

>>281184948
They're kids. It's that it's written like this on purpose. The adults are well written as well; I've met people like them before, unfortunately.

>>281183618
You weren't paying attention. It's a bigger, different school. Marina is wearing a senior high school uniform. It gives you the dates as well. They were probably 10, now they're probably 16.

>>281158640
he's like a toddler, one of things I like about anime is that even kids in a lot of shows a more mature and inteligent than they should actually be, like made in abyss, this show isn't that the kids are just kids, if not a little dumb for kids and I mostly don't like shows like that, it's annoying having to live through the mind of a dumb person in a show

Was it so difficult to make Takopi live?
>Cj7 is the perfect example how to do it

>>281184946
She looks like Yakuza. She won't be accepted into a friendship group.

>>281184990
My parents are like this. Tiger mom with extreme standards that she can't live up to herself and bumbling dad that can't keep his hands off debt and constantly angry. It's bad as a kid, as an adult I can just tell them to fuck off though.

>>281185055
It's been almost 20 years and I still remember this fucking movie and the scene in which they slam the wall so that cockroaches come out just to stomp with their barefeet, absolutely disgusting.

>>281184918
Well, the series has been around for 25 years.

>>281185055
Was this good?

>>281181917
it's not misery porn its stupid porn, its a show about how if you're stupid you should get empathy from viewers for free until magically your problems get solved by relying on someone else instead of fixing your own problem, cause stupid people can't do that they can only hope that they huddle together and can be enough of a buffer against themselves through others that the problem gets resolved without any inteligence involved

>>281184990
meant for >>281185021

>>281184912
I would've liked seeing Azuma be friends with them as a normal kid, it was Takopi's wish that they could all hang out together again after all.

>>281185066
My asian friend's parents are similar. Always comparing their kids to others, or showing them off and using them as bragging material. It's awful. Like they're not their kids, but their accessories

>>281185091
It’s entertaining, I liked it

>>281185130
I'll give it a watch then. Thanks.

>>281185091
its live action japanese
no

>>281185106
There is no good timeline where that can happen. Having him around would inevitably drive a wedge between Shizuka and Marina later on leading to similar events unfolding. Some people are better off not interacting with each other at all.

>>281185141
Chinese you mean

>>281185098
It sounds like you went through a lot, Anon. It'll be okay-pi. I hope things are better for you-pi.

>>281185164
dey arr rook same

>>281185159
If he never developed his savior complex and only hung out with them as teens I think it could've worked. A lot of his issues stems from his hardcore mommyfagging, but if he got over that complex I don't think he'd fall for Shizuka (or at least not as hard)

>>281185159
Imagine how toxic that love triangle would end up being. I can understand why Azuma just noped out of there at the end.

>Pick up Attack on Titan.
>Drop after one episode because it's low-IQ slop.
>NPCs cope that it's good and waste their time being invested.
>NPCs get mad at low-IQ slop ending.

>Pick up Game of Thrones.
>Drop after one episode because it's low-IQ slop.
>NPCs cope that it's good and waste their time being invested.
>NPCs get mad at low-IQ slop ending.

>Pick up Takopi.
>Drop after one episode because it's low-IQ slop.
>NPCs cope that it's good and waste their time being invested.
>NPCs get mad at low-IQ slop ending.

This is how being media-literate and not emotionally retarded pays off.

Honestly Marina gets fucked the hardest in all the timelines. Shizuka's life isn't nearly as bad.

>>281185127
Face is everything in asian cultures, to the point where the family's dignity takes precedence over the happiness of the child. The parents would much rather have the child be an ace student while dying inside than the child be average and happy. Hence why there's so much mental illness in those cultures, which they ironically ignore as well to save face.

>>281185235
If Marina stops bullying Shizuka then Shizuka's life basically becomes mostly fine but Shizuka still has to deal with her abusive mom.

>>281185215
>Watch Ep1 of Legend of The Galactic Heroes
>Dropped because I was bored

>Read the first page of Houseki No Kuni
>Dropped because of the artstyle

>Read the first page of Bakemonogatari
>Dropped because of too many words

SmI doing this right, Anon?

>

>>281185245
Doesn't her mom disappear after awhile and she's just living alone until CPS discover her?

>>281185263
Am I*

>>281185266
Something like that. She mentions that her mom just stopped coming home after a while but I can't recall anything specific about CPS.

so the message is
when you see abuse, don't interfere, just remove yourself
your outsider (alien, even) ass knows nothing, you will not help, you will only make things worse
let it happen and the magic of friendship shit will sort it all out magically
minna naka yoku

what a load of torture porn trash, man
you will only enjoy this if you mistake graphic suffering for maturity (i.e. you're 12)

>>281185245
how is her mom abusive
shes neglectful but not abusive

>>281185283
That's grim for the mom, likely she got kidnapped into a rape dungeon or killed by a bad client.

>>281185288
Don't reproduce, please.

>>281185245
Marina still has to deal*

Our FUARKING HEROES!

And Azuma is here too...

>>281185239
A story as old as time

>>281185290
Neglect is another form of abuse. Obviously it's not the same as beating your child and slashing her face with a bottle, but being forced to essentially live as an adult while you're a child because your mom wants nothing to do with you can leave a lasting scar on someone's mental psyche.

>>281185312
it's ok, you'll get it when you finish middle school

>>281185325
Actors for time travel stories are pretty hardcore. They had to start filming when they were kids and finished filming after they grew up. The actor for Chappy took one for the team.

What would you do if you had your own Takopi?

>>281185325
Imagine if the anime had a scene at the very end revealing that they were actually shooting a film and the kids were all child actors complete with makeup artists painting injuries on their faces. Would you still like?

>>281185055
Hey is that Stephen Chow?

>>281185443
Hug him and telling him everything will be alright

why did marina's dad spend all of his money fucking an escort when his wife was available for free

>>281185473
Yes

>>281185290
neglect is a "sin of omission" compared to say hitting someone which is a "sin of commission". Arguably they're equally bad.

>>281185467
Yes, because then we could have a slice of life spinoff anime

>>281185481
>why did marina's dad spend all of his money eating takeout when there's plenty of moldy bread in his fridge

>>281185510
shizuka's mom didn't look all that great either

>>281185443
At 9? Get him to help me steal toys and hide them. I really wanted all the toys I got my eyes on.
Now? Living alarm clock, organizer, and bro.

>>281185481
She ugly.

>>281185481
Maybe he thinks the wife cheated on him because Marina's hair is blonde and the suspicion and resentment grew until he blew up at her.

>>281185481
Maybe his wife wasn't putting out, also she was getting fat

>>281185529
At least she put out and was thin

>>281185481
Maybe the dad is one of those "it's okay for guys to cheat since they make all the money" people.

>>281185481
cause his wife is a crazy bitch

>>281185288
No, it's that you can't jump in and save people and solve complex issues with simple, naively positive thinking, but being there for them and showing kindness is enough to make a difference. You've already been told that many times and you will continue to ignore it and plug your ears like a child.
>i.e. you're 12
Congratulations on reaching 13.

I think most if not all of the problems in the series can be solved if Takopi just tentacle rapes Shizuka and Marina, at the same time.

>>281185529
I thought she was hot in that permanently-tired-of-life-and-nothing-will-wake-her-up way.

>>281185534
Yeah... Why is she a natural blonde?

>>281185481
she probably entrapped him in the first place with a pregnancy. (Look how much trouble she seems to go to to entrap Azuma-kun for Marina. She seems to think men have to be trapped into marriage.)

>>281185209
>shizuka tries to hook them up
>azuma doesn't give a fuck and only hangs out with marinara to get closer to shizuka

Yeah it sounds like a complete trainwreck in the making

>>281185283
>>281185266
The anime added a scene where Shizuka's mom is still there when she skips out but in the manga they just suddenly say she stopped coming home. I didn't like that part because I feel like it's kind of a big deal that the MC's mother disappeared.

Little Marina toes

>>281185288
>when you see abuse, don't interfere, just remove yourself
are you their primary school teacher?

>>281154288 (OP)
As long we agree this is the best comedy of the season we all cool.

>>281185605
okay, you can't fix the world with toxic positivity
but kindness in the real world doesn't do shit either
these are children in adverse circumstances
normal countries have systems for that
countries like japan have careful and private "kindness"
don't involve outsiders and don't rock the boat, don't bring shame to famiry
and that's conveniently what happens here
only even more stupidly because it's done via "introduce a new magic mechanic at the last moment that fixes everything"

>>281185703
that's the premise of the hit Japanese movie "Nobody Knows" which was supposedly based on a true story. One day the single mother of a household of children just doesn't come any more.

>>281184394
Shizuka's life improved greatly in this new timeline because she never lost Chappy and now Marina doesn't bully her and even became her friend
Meanwhile Marina's life still sucks because her mother still abuses her as we can see from the scar

>>281185703
doesn't come home

How do you guys deal with the dread now that the anime is over?
Every time I try to do anything else, this anime keeps popping up in my head and I'm sad about Takopi.

>>281185712
She was living the dream and didn't even realize it at the time....

>>281185747
no in the timeline where Chappy survives, Marina doesn't have a scar

>>281185467
then those kids also have abusive parents, ie stage mothers

>>281185760
We cope, like Marina and Shizuka, in a shitty uncaring world.

>>281185239
it's just being cruel to be kind though

>>281185703
Which scene are you talking about with her still being there?

>>281185800
thanks for the correction. I don't know how I missed it

>>281185685
This love triangle would be better

Pi!

>>281185831
First scene in 5

>>281185800
I don't like this expression. Shizuka in particular looks retarded

>>281185860
Takopi could pleasure them both at the same time, everyone wins

I wonder if Marina in the previous timeline (the main story anime timeline) would've remembered Takopi if she had actually seen him

>>281185905
The expressions are a throwback to their expressions when they first met takopi.

>>281185924
Truely, tentacles heal all wounds.

>>281185892
I did find it strange she says her mom stopped coming homein episode 6 when in episode 5 it shows her sleeping at home before Shizuka sneaks out to visit her dad. It's, presumably, the last time she was ever home in that timeline, but I can't be totally sure since maybe she means after the kidnapping she went home and her mom never showed up or something. It wasn't very clear.

>>281155668
why is it bad tho. Also what hype,everyone ive talked to that watches anime has never heard of the show

>>281185055
Blast from the past. Somehow I didn't think of this when I read Takopi.

The part where he waits for shizuka at the park while the seasons change hurt me-pi.
Poor Takopi was alone for so long :(

>>281185091
It's no Shaolin Soccer or Kungu Hustle but it's still good

>>281186021
Did that mean she was just homeless and roaming the entire year?

>>281186063
yes

>>281186021
>>281186063
How did she survive for a whole year

marina's dad did nothing wrong

>>281186109
selling her tiny body to homeless old men in exchange for shitty food they scrounge up

>>281181456
>Does it even matter? If you act in good ways i don't think the reasoning being dumb or vapid matters at the end of the day.
Being 'good' in modern society just means doing nothing

>>281185215
recommend anime

Or is Rick and Morty s1 more your speed

>>281186063
She had to check everyone's stomachs for Chappy

Takopi reviews are driving me insane man, this misery porn that seems written by a quirky edgy 15 year old girl is getting almost perfect scores, like it’s not the worst anime ever but there’s so much room for improvement i don’t get why people loved it so much specially with the half assed ending

i find kinda funny that "media literacy" midwits can watch the entire series and still discuss it as if takopi isnt the protagonist even when he his name is in title and everything is from his pov.... all it took was the media literacy of -cute mascot creature helps protagonist- for them to completely be illiterate in drama

>>281186111
He abandoned Marina in every timeline. He's kind of awful.

>>281186111
At least he didn’t physically hurt his daughter only emotionally

>>281186195
Write us a new ending and post it to Ao3.

>>281186195
I think it just came out at the right time.
I'm sure a lot of people right now are looking at the world and thinking that everything is getting worse, people are getting meaner, empathy is now seen as a bad trait etc. etc.
And this anime represents that but with a silver lining, that there is still hope no matter how bad things are.

>>281186111
He's literally THE root cause of everything

>>281186207
You said nothing in that entire paragraph

>>281186228
He threw stuff at Marina (Takopi) and it hit her in the face

>>281185800
Marina is the biggest loser in this series huh

>>281181053
>this, this media is designed to prey on your emotions! Oh you thought that joke was funny? Well actually it was meant to make you laugh! Bet you feel stupid now huh?
You're genuinely insane.

>>281186239
i have a happy gadget for you
its called a lobotomy

>>281186271
See it’s way easier to make anons mad if you keep it short and get to the point

>>281186257
She got the cute waifu. Shes the biggest winner.

>>281186271
I believe in you-pi! If you read and write enough, you can properly express yourself-pi. You can do it!-pi

So, would Takopi technically still come to earth in 2022 in the final timeline?
Or did he erase himself completely across the whole timeline?

>>281186334
erased himself

>>281186306
I wish we got to see more of them

>>281186334
The latter for sure.

I think Tacopi is erased from all timelines even his 2022 supposed version. That's how these octopi from planet happi operates I think. They are clearly some form of species that transcend time and has mastery over it. So to use his final "magic" to make the happy gadget work again necessitates erasure of his whole existence not just the current time one.

As such he is gone from 2016 too. His 2022 version is gone as well. It's like he never existed except for the memories he had diffiseud over the new timeline due to using his existence to travel one last time.

>>281186063
a native speaker Japanese told me there are hints in the newspaper articles (about the missing girls who were missing for six months or something) Japanese viewers are apparently pausing it and reading the articles to fill in the gaps.

>>281186109
she was originally stealing food because she was invisible, but on the ferry home she got caught stowing away so the invisibility gadget must have eventually broken

>>281186111
he should have kept his marriage vows. Also how is the mum, who seems to be a reasonable housekeeper and cook, "a parasite"? What an unfair accusation.

>>281186508
He also clearly doesn't give a shit about his daughter, but just using her as a way to annoy the mom.
Notice how when Takopi (as Marina) accepted the offer to come live with him, he changed his tone of voice immediately.
He sounded surprised and hesitant like "Wtf I didn't think she would actually say yes" type of voice.
He only pretends to care about Marina to stick it to the mom.

>>281186508
>reasonable housekeeper
>spends his hard earned prostitute money on fucking tassels
Come on man.

>>281186557
agree. Instead of criticising the mother in private, he uses Marina as an audience when he ridicules the mother. He's poisoning their relationship

>>281186652
Is there something with decorating curtains with tassels?

>>281186686
*something wrong

>>281186686
It cuts into his whoring money

>>281154872
>>azuma's "good ending" just completely ignoring shizuka instead of, idk, telling the teacher about the bullying and trying to be genuine friends without the pussywhipped savior complex
His good ending was growing out of his inferiority complex and people-pleasing behavior (specially towards his mother).

Omg I was trying to figure out why Takopi's voice immediately made me sad when I first heard it in episode 1.
I finally figured it out! His voice is done by the same woman who did Momoko from "Momoko, Kaeru no Uta ga Kikoeru yo."
That movie destroyed me.

>>281186750
I wonder why she wasn't keeping him on allowance (as is usual with housewives married to salariman)?

>>281186931
I have a feeling Takopi's voice actor is the reason why the series is so good

It's time to realize that this manga was only popular because the girls were stupidly erotic.

>>281187081
Only Marina
Shizuka is plain as shit

>>281187091
Whore blood says otherwise.

>>281187184
I thought it was a nice detail that at the end she had longer nails than Marina and was looking for makeup, she really is gonna be a super whore

>>281187091
plain anime girls are fucking great

>>281187091
plain sexy

>>281187199
>>281187184

Body count?

boring show

>>281156304
>Takopi feels like a criticism of something
"I can fix her" crowd or people who demonise others without knowing the full picture. Probably.

>>281185325
This dog is stupidly cute

>>281181661
wrong. Frieren(Freeze for you germanic scholars) killed the bad guys. Takopinko saved the bad girls who deserved nothing.

>>281184517
>>281184491
Moral: you should listen to Ararararagi and Oshino. that people save themselves. people create their own god and demons.

and that Monogataris and superior lolis. because 3 of them are already dead!

>>281185467
>>281185503
they literally used a real 3D loli in the live-action version of that anime, where a mom's dead ghost took over a loli's body. i forgot the name of the manga sauce.

>>281186109
>>281186139
she ate the guts of murdered lolis.

>>281187592
my wife became a grade schooler?

>>281185481
Double eyelid

>>281187694
yes that one.
> www.imdb.com/title/tt17374752/
> Maida Nono · Profession: Actress · Birthdate: 2011-Sep-25

she was 11 years old when the Live-action was broadcasted.

>>281178278
>wasn't considered top-tier

multiple prizes andnomaination
view record on Jump+
over 1 milion sales wih just 2 volume

>>281187974
Ps5 is great because it is one of the best selling consoles in the world!
t. Junya, probably

What other anime are worth watching this season?

Why are the girls always making cum faces?

>>281188058
They just look painful like they both stepped on a lego at the same time

>>281187047
I think you're right.
Takopi sounds so fucking innocent whenever he talks that it's impossible not to get attached to him.

These sluts are probably seducing boys left and right but they won't put out because they're pseudo dykes. Sad.

>>281188041
Clevates and Dandadan s2

Do you think we'll get a Season 2?

>>281154288 (OP)
Retarded normieslop i can't wait it will get instantly forgotten after this season of anime ends. I dropped it instantly after first garbage episode.

>>281189208
Takopeak!

>>281188616
The manga ended
There's nothing else in the story unless you want a season of Shizuka and Marina fucking around, I guess

Takopii MADs/AMVs keep popping up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=544Mzhu3y6g

i'm crying on the last episode, any anon feels the same here?

>>281189761
Everyone-pi.

No one said it so I will. Holy shit I love hand drawn anime so fucking much it's unreal. Never forget what they took from us.

Do I need to rewatch the show because I dont see how takopi removing himself from their lives prevents shizuka from killing herself

>>281190268
He created an imbalance by being present and favoring one girl over another.
On one cycle he protected marina, on another shizuka, and this imbalance made them lonelier.
By removing himself (+ some deus ex machina) they start relying on each other.
Also, takopii had no other choice, he had no ship nor time machine camera.
Even if the sacrifice was a gamble it was one worth taking.

>>281190268
She kills herself after Marina gets Chappy taken away, they become friends in the final timeline so that never happens.

>>281189432
I want a manga of the events that took place when Shizuka was in Tokyo for at least six months, including the abduction of the half-sisters

it's nice that they became friends in the end. and chappy survived so that was good.

>>281179765
the real message of the show

>>281180531
Sorry you didn't get your superior logic facilities stimulated, but I prefer this over vague art pieces that intentionally obfuscate everything and only imply things like some woman shit testing you.

>>281190182
Isn't all anime hand drawn and then scanned?
I don't think there are a lot of studios that have gone fully digital yet.
Could be wrong though.

>>281191790
Most anime these days are a mix of everything. Some hand drawn mixed with CGI even mixed with AI or photobashed stock photos.

>>281191602
Did you know that women are just people too, Anon?

BROS

>>281191981
Woah the yuri OVA is already out?

>>281191981
AI has gone too far.
They're just friends. FRIENDS.

>>281192007
>>281192010
yes

>>281185288
The lesson is to get the bully and the bullied emotionally depended on you and then you kill yourself so they become friends

>>281192010
Best friends. Roommates, even.

>>281185443
Use its gadgets for improving my life and for fun, using it as my emotional dumpster, punching it if it's annoying or doesn't shut up. Being otherwise psychologically and physically abusive towards it sometimes to fulfill my sadistic desires. Then feeling bad and apologizing to it and getting forgiven. The basic stuff. It will tolerate all of this because it's a Happian and supposed to make me happy.

>>281192278
Being Takopi is suffering.

>>281192278
>>281192327
Probably the saddest thing about all of this is that Takopi spent the last few months/years of his life suffering, then sacrificed himself to save those who caused most of his suffering.
Pi.

>>281185712
>wife isn't fat yet
This show is a warning for women to not get fat.

>>281185760
Haven't decided yet but Mitsuboshi Colors was mentioned some other thread, kids being kids but happy this time. Or Grand Blue, S2 is airing and I remember the first season was about stupid college dudes drinking (and sometimes diving), should be fun and grounding.

>>281192707
Mitsuboshi colors is about 3 terrorists wreaking havoc in their city.

>>281185215
Not sure how but develop higher EQ. IQ doesn't help you enjoy media or life.
>>281186195
People love it simply because it strongly resonates with their emotions and experiences. Also, the characters being very believable and well acted helps. I'm actually pleasantly surprised for the low amount of plotfags losing their shit because of the time travel.

>>281157705
Hot take:
Doraemon no doubt can solve Shizuka's problems. He's more mature than Takopi and his gadgets more unhinged.

>>281193400
How?

Azuma would have been the best person to find Takopi originally. All he really needed was a friend and someone to validate him compared to the nightmare of the girl's lives. He's even the only one to use a happy gadget towards something not completely fucked up like suicide or hiding a body. He's also the only one that never abused Takopi physically.

>22 year old man in misery, tries to kill himself multiple times:
>"Just get off your ass you lazy bum, Misaki's not gonna save you!"
>9 year old girl in misery, tries to kill herself:
>"Noooooooooo! Misery porn! Unacceptable! Manipulative!"
well, I'm kind of glad someone in this world still feels this strongly about kids

Just read Fruits Basket

>>281171492
When two kino shows meet

>>281192581
She got saggy too
Her decreased skin elasticity is to blame

Why do so many people seem to have 0 empathy for Takopi?
Everyone cares about the human characters, but most people seem to ignore Takopi's struggles.

>>281194892
1. togepi is retarded
2. togepi is an ayylien
3. i fuck ur mom
4. ???
5. profit

I thought Talopi goes back in time when the bullying happens and give his memories of the two different timelines to them and they sort of remember what really happened and they understood their suffering and became friends, not lovers, friends. There is no yuri! NO YURI!

>>281194032
Sato had a good childhood and parents who love him, if his life went to shit is because he is a retard. Both he and the series recognize that it's all his fault and that instead of trying to do something to fix his problems he prefers to sink deeper into them.
Takopi wants to sell you that nothing that happens is the children's fault, that they are all victims of their harmful circumstances and of their parents' bad parenting.

>>281188743
Kek, go watch nukitashi and watanare you utter clown

>>281181054
So who’s the bottom and who’s the top?

>>281195906
Kek

>>281196322me

>>281196322
Shizuka obviously power bottoms Marina

>>281196322
Everyone draws Marina as a bottom for some reason

Takopi died for our sins -pi
accept him into your heart and be saved -pi

>>281194892
wdym the saddest moment was when takopi broke down and cried over marina's death

>>281196322
Shizuka beats Marina in bed

>>281195906
kulikitako-pi~
>>>wsg/5940496/

>>281196663
How disgusting

>>281195906
kulikitako-pi~
>>>/wsg/5940496/

Why you guys never told me that this is a villainess origin story?

>>281195906
kulikitako-pi~
>>>/wsg/5940496
goddamit hiro

>>281194995
The red ribbon of destined lovers

>>281196998
Shizuka in 15 years

>>281182083
low EQ watchers ignored this post

Is it safe to say that Takopi will be entirely carried by these two having sex and off-handed octopus cameos for the rest of time

>>281193930
cute
>>281198265
hot

when is the shizuka x marina yuri romcom spinoff

>>281185800
>>281185856
She only has one scar instead of two. Maybe Marina's mother isn't as abusive as she would've been?

>>281182948
>talking about Marina's abusive environment so casually
Do you think Shizuka teases her about her scar?

>>281157705
if there is a deeper message then I'm sure it didn't need to be buried under so much over the top misery porn to be communicated

>>281181917
anon even porn can have a plot

Didn't get the ending either. Feels like some weird anime original ending. Guess the author didn't know how to end his manga.

>>281156304
I don't think it's a critique but a warning not to be self-righteous and to instead humble yourself.
Nobody ever has the full picture of every situation so it's bad to hop in and immediately start picking sides.

>>281154288 (OP)

WAH, WHAT ARE YOUR DOING TAKOPI!?

Frieren was better than this THOUGH

>takopi dies
>the memories of his presence remain in Shizuka's and Marina's mind
>Marina fucking kills shizuka because she vaguely remembers the future
Realistically this is what should've happened.

>>281201913
But why would she want Azuma? He's a shit boyfriend. Shizuka's the upgrade

>>281202134
>why would she want Azuma
He has money
t. Shizuka the whore

>>281202134
Both of them explicitly love men

>>281194892
what people? tako might be retarded and badly written but if her existed in 3D, i would protecc his smile, and destroy all evil lolis.
>>281196711
everyone should be willing to die for jebus pastafarian. i am not a cult.

>>281154752
having a lot of offsprings, one less and one who commit a sin is not gonna hold a special place in her memory

>>281185685
But he gets over his mummy issues and doesn't like shizuka anymore. Not liking her is the good ending for him

>>281185481
perhaps he had the old school mindset of as long as I bring food on the table, who cares what I do outside home? while she was obsessed with him

>>281194892
Because everything was his fault. In Marina timeline he introduced her to Azuma leading to bad end. In Shizuka timeline he literally gave her the rope to hang herself with

>>281185481
Have you seen what those moms look like? Which one would you pick

>>281195175
Fascinating how it "tries to sell me" on your delusion by pushing a clear message through Marina that you need to not let your bad circumstances lead you to repeating the cycle of violence/cruelty. The bad things that happened to Maria weren't all her fault, but her abusing others IS a problem and DID lead to Shizuka getting her back in high school. The fix is when she relates to her victim and stops victimizing and becomes more social.

Do you just come up with things to complain about or did you consider watching the show?

>>281185481
She's fat and ugly

>>281206596
I love them. Man, I'm usually into intellectual girls. But something about both of their determinations is alluring.

>Don't fall in love with evil girls
Nah they're not evil. They're just strong

>>281185534
>>281158640
>>281185045
he's actually less than a todler, because even a toddler knows when his parents are arguing in a aggresive way, this thing can't even manage that

>>281186220
he asked Takopi to stay with him when he was impersonating her

>>281186195
you misery whiners or driving me more insane because misery if fine if written well and this isn't like 79% of the time

>>281186931
the art looks terrible

>>281188058
modern arstyle, except not even that modern I dunno animators trying to make the faces not like like rigid pieces of chalk should be expected?

>>281189441
that's how you know the audince for this is younger

>>281182948
It's just them bonding over their parents being awful people.

>>281185712
>Alolashitters
Marina deserved death

>>281207529
I really really really need an iyashikei slice of live adventure of these two

They were always meant to be good frens.
>>281190182
Every episode has multiple moments of brilliance. Never forget the efforts of the passionate.

>>281158640
>Until this cycle is broken

Shut the fuck up little kid trying to block out the entire sun with his thumb. Stay in your lane and go play videogames or something like Naoki

Normalized Misandry the anime

Every male except the chad gary stu Azuma older sibbling does everything wrong according to everyone. That's all the impression I get from every faggot

>Shizuka dad trying to move on? Le bad!
>Marina papa trying to move on? Le bad!
Shit I might as well say it for you faggots, The Takopi race doesn't have a father around thats LE BAD too right?

>>281209167
You can move on if you don't have any kids. As soon as kids get thrown into the mix you have an obligation to care for them or at least find a solution where they don't get fucked over badly.

>>281209167
I hope you learn how to speak english -pi.

>>281209167
this anime sucks but you're retarded

There is no heterosexual explanation for this.

>>281209203
Unfortunately that's just your fantasy, reality says that's not going to fly for many reason which I won't bother with else I get flagged trying to start a war.
>>281209247
>>281209337
I hope she sees this Naoki bro

>>281199997
Yes, Takopi is originally full of pride about the amazing happy gadgets, which don't actually help Shizuka. In the end he has been humbled, and just hangs out with Shuzuka, cuddling her, eating with her and grooming her (cutting her hair). That sort of care and companionship was the thing that Shizuka needed all along.

>>281209344
Is there a doujin yet where both of them squishes takopi in between their cunnies?