Are fanservice moments *really* necessary? Don't you think they distract from the artistic nature of anime?

>>281270256 (OP)
Fanservice is part of the artistic nature of anime.

>>281270256 (OP)
That dog girl was so hot

>>281270256 (OP)
The only people who get distracted by it are schizos who obsess over its presence or absence

>>281270468
>The only people who get distracted by it
So like everyone then? Basically everyone is obsessed with either their inclusion or their exclusion.

>>281270256 (OP)
Americans and anglos are not the target audience.

>>281270256 (OP)
>Are fanservice moments *really* necessary?
No.
But they improve a series if done well.
And they ruin a series if done badly.
In most cases, it is the latter.
>extra step to summon shizo kun
Especially if they use cheap censor techniques like laser-lightbeams, fog, or black impenetrable shadows under skirts, or put the characters with towels or bathing suits in an onsen. Vomit inducing.

>>281270256 (OP)

Yes, it is needed. No, it does not distract. Now go back to the kitchen and prepare me a sandwich.

fuck off with your virtue signaling, faggot.

>>281270256 (OP)
Depends on the kind of fanservice since it takes forms other than the standard 'lewd girl in state of lewdness' angle that seems to be what everyone fixates on.

>>281270256 (OP)
Yes.
>w.. who is its target au
Me.
>y.. you are fat, disgusting, old, balding and...
Virile.

>>281270256 (OP)
Yes, and you're a jew OP

>>281270365
i'm glad that in Bindverse Rinia ended up being bustier than her in the end.

>>281270256 (OP)
>Isekai slop
>Art
Have you considered using a rope and ladder? You should.

>>281272694
>slop
opinion disregarded.

>>281271312
name your country if you're so proud of it

>>281272770
The glorious 日本

>>281270256 (OP)
Is anything really necessary? What if nothing existed and the Big Bang never happened? Would this be a catastrophe for anybody?

>>281270256 (OP)
They shouldn't be censored so much.

>>281270256 (OP)
No, by definition it's not necessary.
I think censorship detracts from art far more than titties ever could, and classical art seems to agree with me.

>>281270256 (OP)
Yes. If you don’t like fanservice you’re not a real otaku

>>281270256 (OP)
Yes. No.

>>281270256 (OP)
fanservice should only be in ecchi anime or reserved for "special" moments

>>281270256 (OP)
Depends on the nature of the series, and how gratuitous it is.
I don't really give a shit about Mushoku Tensei because it's a wish fulfillment isekai series for manchildren. It doesn't really have an "artistic nature," so giving teenagers boners is pretty much the whole point. The point of the show is to make 14-year-old penises tingle as they self-insert. It's basically safe horny porn for kids. I'm not going to say it shouldn't exist because there's an obvious appetite for it, and that concept doesn't really exist in the west, but being safe horny porn for kids and manchildren is not exactly something I would call high art.
Yeah, some shows need fanservice because otherwise there literally wouldn't be a fucking point.
Similar fantasy series with actual merit don't rely on it as much. Frieren doesn't, Dungeon Meshi doesn't, Berserk doesn't. Even getting into populat shonen examples, you'll notice that amount of fanservice is almost inversely proportional to quality. Hunter x Hunter, Naruto, Dragonball Z, Bleach, One Piece, they don't really have fanservice to speak of, all of the porn comes from the fans. Meanwhile, all the shitty series that have failed all have lots, Fairy Tale, Seven Deadly Sins, etc.
I'm not going to say fanservice is what makes a series shit, but it's definitely a massive red flag because it means the author is just going to appeal to your testicles instead of some other, more high-brow organ.

>>281275110
You are a huge faggit and a fake otaku and a fake fan.

>>281273645
It certainly detracts more with some of the ways they use to avoid showing them.

>>281275110
High brow is a meme. Made up by wealthy elites to make their art preferences sound better than those of the peasants.
Every one of the series you mentioned had some kind of fanservice at some point. Just because it wasn't constant doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
It isn't a red flag for anything because the actual red flags are the writing and characterization surrounding it.

>>281275110
> Frieren doesn't, Dungeon Meshi doesn't, Berserk doesn't. Even getting into populat shonen examples, you'll notice that amount of fanservice is almost inversely proportional to quality. Hunter x Hunter, Naruto, Dragonball Z, Bleach, One Piece, they don't really have fanservice to speak of

…Did you actually watch or read ANY of those? Berserk gave us the rape horse, and the main heroine gets raped into retardation, and people call it the Tolkien/Citizen Kane of manga.

>>281275569
All art is subjective, but there's a difference between smut for manchildren and actual "art," and you're being a disingenuous liar if you're pretending you don't understand the difference.
Also, you're saying it's some kind of binary, like I'm trying to say any amount of fanservice automatically makes something smut. That's not what I'm saying it all, it's clearly a spectrum. There are series with ZERO fucking merit like Redo of Healer, then there's better shit like with Mushoku Tensei, then better into Shield Hero, then better into Sword Art Online, etc.
I think all those series fucking suck, but even among shit isekai crap for mongoloids there's obviously different levels.
>>281275923
It's fucking RETARDED to seriously compare Berserk to Mushoku Tensei. You know they're different. I can accept that the degree of separation is separate to a degree, and these lines are hard to define, but you can easily just look at the audiences. I'm not going to say being mainstream is a pure signifier of quality, but series like Berserk go mainstream for a reason while series like Mushoku Tensei languish with pervs, pedophiles and losers.

>>281270256 (OP)
>no scene where eris and the girls talk about guys then start talking about doki doki then start shlicking together while rudeus watches through a knot hole and rubs his little shota pecker and everyone climaxes together then fade to white
im saying the show needs more SoL

>>281270256 (OP)
Distract from the artistic nature of anime? How does that even make sense? If anything no fan service dries up all of the artistic potential.

>>281276015
>It's fucking RETARDED to seriously compare Berserk to Mushoku Tensei.
They're both "le deep" slop. They both have shitty fanservice or retarded sexual garbage.
>but you can easily just look at the audiences.
Both edgy teenagers who think they're super smart and ahead of their peers
>but series like Berserk go mainstream for a reason while series like Mushoku Tensei languish with pervs, pedophiles and losers.
People know Berserk by name only, most people probably have never read it, and the main focus of its attention online is how "le brutal!!!" it is. Mushoku Tensei is fairly mainstream, It gets views on its trailers and announcements on the level of other giga popular shows like Re:Zero and Frieren. I wouldn't be surprised if Mushoku Tensei is more popular in raw numbers than Berserk too. I doubt it's more relevant culturally but it's definitely very much mainstream.

>>281270256 (OP)
They are absolutely necessary. Nowhere else do you get to experience something like this. And it is glorious.

>>281270256 (OP)
They can be fun sometimes, plus they are part of the tradition, sort of like >>281270345 said.

I don't particularly like when it is done excessively, but I do hope that Japan doesn't stop doing them, it'll be an indicative that they're bowing down to the silly demands of the west.

>>281270256 (OP)
Them playing in the water was very cute so yes

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>>281270256 (OP)
>Are fanservice moments *really* necessary?
Yes. I hate zoomer faggots trying to get good goy points by hating on fan service. Tits are nice because they are nice.

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>>281270256 (OP)
>necessary
No but they're always appreciated

A boy will look at Goku and think "What do I have to do to look like him?"

A girl will look at Eris and think "What do I have to do to make her look like me?"

Once you understand this, everything in life makes sense.

>>281279701
... what?

>>281270256 (OP)
No

>>281270345
this, without them anime is soulless