Remember when Magical Girls were good?

>>281317526 (OP)
Yeah i remember Madoka Magica

>>281317567
Right, that's when they definitely stopped being good.

Sailor Moon thread?
I wonder if the anons who started watching it recently are still at it.

>>281317526 (OP)
>millions of filler and slide show animation

>>281317919
SM anime filler eps are what made it good.

>>281317526 (OP)
I might be old but I can still remember things to occur this week.

>>281318021
god I hate how generic these modern anime chicks look

>>281317526 (OP)
I miss them wearing actual uniforms instead of just frilly dresses

>>281318384
Frilly dresses are cute but I can see your point. You can put some ribbons and frills on an uniform too.

>>281318021
Other than precure, what do people watch for their mg fix nowadays?

>>281317526 (OP)
>>281318384
That's why sailormoon was the goat. Actual sailor uniforms and it's panservice galore.

>>281317567
This

>>281317590
Filtered yuritroon

I never really understood the appeal of sailor uniforms. For school uniforms, blazers just look better. For magical girls, I don't mind the frilly dresses (or non-sailor uniforms).

>>281320730
I don't care about yuri, but I do care about a MG show being an actual MG show.

>>281320731
wow, I never saw someone with such a shit taste in fashion

>>281320768
And what makes Madoka not a MG show for you? Is it because it's too good to be one?

>>281320801
Leave.

>>281320805
Make me, shitskin

>>281320856
>subersive nigger calling anyone else shitskin
Fuck off. This thread has nothing to do with that kind of MG stuff.

>>281320772
When you stop to think about it, Sailor moon is just weird. Why would they be named after the fact that they wear sailor uniforms? It's not like I hate it, but there are way better uniforms.
Like pic related: I think it captures all the charm of sailor uniforms without the weird and thematically irrelevant maritime theming.

>>281320882
It's a MG thread.
A MG thread where someone attacked Madoka.
Why would it be weird for its fans to defend it?

>>281320882
nah op is definitely that fujo mahou shoujo faggot that makes this thread every week.

>>281320912
Go defend it in your own thread.

>>281320923
And what thread would that be, nigger

>>281320921
I'm OP

>>281320941
Make it. It's not this one. That's your last (You) from me.

>>281320947
>Let me trashtalk good anime in peace!
No
Go to reddit, they love people like you

>>281320731
Frilly dresses and sailor uniforms are both great.

>>281321477
What do you think about leotards and animal pajamas as a magical girl attire?

>>281321663
NTA but
>leotards
Sure. All the girls in OP are wearing one actually.
>animal pajamas
Certainly not the first thing that comes to mind when I think about magical girls but it could work.

>>281317526 (OP)
I remember watching it in 2001. And Sakura. It's sad how this genre degraded to stuff like that Madoka movie.

>>281321898
>And Sakura.
Clear Card S2 soon
Maybe

>>281321898
What's wrong with Madoka movies?

Yeah. It was before and after Sailor Moon, with Sailor Moon being shit.

>>281322264
They made moneys.

>>281322332
What's wrong with SM specifically?

>>281317526 (OP)
they're better now

>>281317526 (OP)
that college student (20yo) fucked that middle schooler (14yo) btw

>>281322633
This one is only slightly more respectable than Madoka, but mostly on the same camp.

>>281322646
Based?

>>281322264
bloodbath yuri slop than ruined Homura as a character.

>>281323010
>people still don't understand Rebellion, or even the TV series
Can't wait for people to not understand the new movie too.

>>281323010
Madoka will never have any yuri in it and all of its characters are canonically straight though

Please don't discuss Madoka here, thanks

>>281323070
Kek start posting Yuri to trigger op

>>281323112
I don't care about yuri either way

And yep, it was a falseflag again.

>>281323034
Westerners fundamentally cannot understand an anime like Madoka because they can't see characters being close without thinking of weimar republic sexual identity bullshit

>>281323184
I'm who you're replying to and I'm a yuri enjoyer though.

>>281323267
So you yourself didn't understand what you're accusing people of not understanding?

>>281323292
I understand it, you don't.

>>281323355
>I understand it
Then why do you defend yuritroons?

>>281323070

>>281317526 (OP)
Pic unrelated, should’ve posted CCS instead.

I like sm but you have to admit that madoka was a powerhouse of are you too much of a newfag to remember those threads

>>281323494
CCS is also cool.

>>281323516
I avoid Madoka threads. Being popular doesn't mean good.

>Madoka bad because it's aimed at men! Magical girls in the past were aimed at women!
Yeah about that

>>281323594
You mean all these MG threads weren't full of little girls shitposting on 4chan? Bullshit.

>>281323594
Kill yourself, Precurefag.

>>281317526 (OP)
But pic related was responsible for the downfall of the genre by inspiring the creation of both Precure (90’s anime) and Madoka (manga) slop.

Thanks to Sailor Moon the genre now targets toddlers and yuritroons instead of it’s original shoujo teen girl and fujo audience. CLAMP tried to save it with both CCS and Rayearth, but by then it was too late.

>rth

>>281323855
Can't blame SM for being successful and people focusing on the wrong aspects to rip it off.

>>281323594
Pre Preshit Magical Girls were aimed almost exclusively at women though.

>>281324583
no

>>281324617
>dom Usagi
How the fuck would that even work. Even Chibiusa would be more convincing.

>>281317526 (OP)
They are actually better now because they are men

>>281324650
Of course it doesn't make sense to you, you're not her boyfriend so you don't get to see that side of her.

>>281324702
Does Mamoru really

>>281324617
That’s just the manga which was well known to be the first Mahou Shoujo to start the pandering to yuritroons trend, the 90’s anime on the other hand pandered to fujos with gay male shippings that the manga completely lacked.

Magical Girl series used to always have fujo pandering before Precure and Madoka came along, see also CCS and Rayearth.

>>281320908
>maritime theming
It's schoolgirl themed and represents them being in their spring of youth, you absolute retard.

>>281324780
Can you point to me where the yuritroons are on that pic?
It may appear crazy to you but 99.999999% of the population enjoy heterosexual stuff, not yuri or yaoi shit. So authors pander to the majority.

Actually ultra based precure poster just dumping cute stuff.

>>281324823
>Can you point to me where the yuritroons are on that pic?
Sailor Moon manga started the concept of yuri ships in Mahou Shoujo, there was no yuri shipping in previous Magical Girl series.

>>281325154
What does that have to do with the pic i posted?
Also only niche shit that can't have a normal audience do yuri shit

>>281325203
>Also only niche shit that can't have a normal audience do yuri shit
So why did Sailor Moon do it?

>>281325485
ask the author

Mechanical Girls > Magical Girls

>>281326045
Now I want an anime that's Magical Girls VS Mechanical Girls
Good ol' fashioned magic vs tech themes.

>>281326045
Technology is magic. If magic were as ubiquitous for us as technology currently is then we would treat it as mundane as well.

>>281326045
>>281326149
Naoko actually tried to combine both, Ami was originally supposed to be a cyborg but then she was forced to scrap that idea but managed to return to it later by making Hotaru one.

>>281326270
Yeah I heard about that before.

>>281326045
Thanks for reminding me that Cutey Honey exists.

>>281324719
> Worthless male
> Female /queen has all the power

Yeah seems so

>>281326401
I really need to see dom Usagi now

>>281326149
Who wins?

>>281326727
>Who wins?
Love wins, obviously.
Which kind of love we are talking about, I will leave that to the audience's interpretation.

>>281326401
> Worthless male
> Female /queen has all the power
>Only relevant male in the entire manga
>Him and all the other barely featured male characters are straight compared to the fujobaiting 90’s anime
>Fisheye who was a fujobait gay trap in the 90’s anime is a literal transbian in the manga
Yep, it’s a yuritroon manga alright…

>>281322403
>What's wrong with SM specifically?
See >>281323855

Also the 90’s anime is for literal toddlers while the manga was attempting the edgy deconstruction slop meme.

>>281327366
Wow neither of these are true, congrats.

>>281327390
>Wow neither of these are true
Proof? I on the other hand do have proofs that both are in fact correct.

>>281327551
Anime has dead magical girls and themes that would go above your head if you aren't at least a teen.
Manga plays it straight, there is no "deconstruction" to speak of, just more drama and borrowing some superhero tropes, which didn't have much to do with magical girls before SM but obviously make sense there.
Neither talk about "magical girls", so you can't really call them meta when they don't even identify themselves as the genre, unlike Meduka saying it EVERY GODDAMN EP

>>281327667
There were jokes in Bugs Bunny cartoons that were for the parents, doesn't mean that those cartoons weren't aimed at children.

>>281327721
They aren't a one-off joke in SM

>>281327667
>Anime has dead magical girls
Only in the season 1 finale, which coincidentally Toei was forced down to tone down all future season finales and never allowed to kill off the girls again because they got complaints from soccer moms claiming it was too traumatizing for their kindergarten kids, ergo the 90’s anime was always aimed at the Precure audience.

>Manga plays it straight, there is no "deconstruction" to speak of
Someone didn’t read the Stars arc I see, it is quite literally the proto-Madoka.

>>281327834
>Only in the season 1 finale
Wrong
>Someone didn’t read the Stars arc I see, it is quite literally the proto-Madoka.
You are missing the point. You can't do "deconstruction" without getting meta about the genre, it's the entire point. You want to take something pre-existing and highlight usual tropes.
Sailor Moon cannot do that by design because it was doing its own thing(sort of, it's really mostly female sentai), long before people came to associate it with the MG genre, inspiration notwithstanding. You are mixing it with just making the mood more serious, which isn't unheard of either way.

>>281317526 (OP)
Yah, last year

>>281328264
>Wrong
Where else were they killed off permanently? And no, the Stars anime final battle doesn’t count, I said PERMANENTLY. The way they were “killed” in Stars was in an obvious “safe-murder” way since Galaxia only removed their Star Seeds (which can be and was easily returned) rather than the brutal mauling of their bodies that resulted in perma-death in season 1.

>You are missing the point. You can't do "deconstruction" without getting meta about the genre, it's the entire point. You want to take something pre-existing and highlight usual tropes.
And the Stars arc in the manga literally does that by revealing that being a Senshi is suffering and is not a good thing to be, they literally have to end the entire universe itself if they want to escape their sad fate.

Sailor Moon is based on Super Sentai and doesn't have any "mature" themes Sentai doesn't have. It's for girls in elementary school or around there. There was an episode of Hajimete no Otsukai where a girl who can barely talk is a fan of it

>>281328435
>Where else were they killed off permanently?
There is no perma-death at all so that's not really a question. But do watch the scene with the outers especially and tell me how they want you to read it.
>being a Senshi is suffering and is not a good thing to be
I mean no shit, being a superhero fighting supervillains is tough. It's going to feature these kind of themes since it's mixing with sentai. Has fuck all to do with pre-SM magical girls.

>>281328567
There we go. Finally some actual "media literacy" as the younguns call it.

>>281328567
>It's for girls in elementary school or around there. There was an episode of Hajimete no Otsukai where a girl who can barely talk is a fan of it
That’s the 90’s anime which I’ve already acknowledged is for the Precure audience, the manga on the other hand was for teens.

>>281328600
>There is no perma-death at all so that's not really a question.
Season 1’s finale technically was permadeath, Usagi just got the chance to reverse it by wishing on the Silver Crystal to go back in time so that the year never happened.

>>281324650
Feels like a mistranslation to suit an agenda or Takeuchi is is just a gadfly who wants to provoke people to violate her characters because she's such a ryona fan herself.

Maybe the two or three of her favorites would qualify, especially in the manga, but the rest are far removed from that. Then again everyone is so OOC from each version, and the original didn't flesh them out much at all.

>>281328878
>Usagi just got the chance to reverse it by wishing on the Silver Crystal to go back in time so that the year never happened.
Something like that also happens in Stars, albeit without the part where Usagi has to meet the girls again.
But that's moving the goalposts already, there is no perma-death for the heroines period, regardless of how you have to bullshit them back to life.

>>281328600
>I mean no shit, being a superhero fighting supervillains is tough. It's going to feature these kind of themes since it's mixing with sentai.
So according to you the only way the manga can qualify as a deconstruction of the genre is if they spelled it out to your face and said “Magical Girl” rather than “Senshi?”

>>281329106
>strawman
Now you are just malding.
No faggot, you need something to deconstruct. You do realize which franchise started the whole "color-coded magical girl squad fighting super villains just like sentai" trend? If hypothetically Meduka did this first, then it wouldn't be a deconstruction either, although it wouldn't make no fucking sense because what even are you trying to reference?

>>281328947
>Feels like a mistranslation to suit an agenda or Takeuchi is is just a gadfly who wants to provoke people to violate her characters because she's such a ryona fan herself.
She’s a yuritard who panders to yuritroons, what do you think?

Speaking of Sailor Moon, I finished R the other day, and it took me by surprise that they called Sailor Moon S "Sailor Moon Super" in the preview for the next season. If the S stands for "Super," wouldn't that make Sailor Moon SuperS "Sailor Moon Super Super"?

Why are you all like this.
Post some cute magical girls or talk about shows you like. Are you really going to spend all day wondering whether the girls want dicks or suck each other off, while arguing about what's deconstructing what?

>>281329793
Yea it's a funny title. It's also the plural of Super because in S, only Sailor Moon got a major upgrade, but in SuperS it also happens to the others.

>>281329793
>Speaking of Sailor Moon, I finished R the other day
Opinions on the villains and Chibiusa?

>>281329836
>Not expecting there to be arguments regarding yuri and deconstruction
>In a Magical Girl thread
Where do you think you even are?

>>281319103
watch Princession

>>281320667
>Sailor Moon
>panservice
They’re leotards retard

>>281329945
>Chibiusa
Given how much shit she gets on /a/, I’m surprised by how much I ended up liking her. However, from what I understand, she gets worse in later seasons (which begs the question: why bring her back when her arc was already resolved?). I found her incredibly annoying during the breakup arc, but once she learned about Sailor Moon’s true identity, she started to become more tolerable. I liked her Black Lady transformation and how it ties together her abandonment issues and feelings of guilt and loneliness, as well as how it was resolved. The final goodbye with Usagi, with her calling her “mum,” and the reunion with her mother in the future were really sweet, and unlike other elements in the season (like Petz and Sapphire’s relationship), it feels earned.
>villains
I love the Ayakashi Sisters and find Esmeraude entertaining, but I didn’t care at all about Demande and I like Wiseman more as a concept than as a character. I didn’t expect him to go out with what’s basically the Sailor Moon equivalent of the father-son Kamehameha.

>>281330649
Their regular school uniforms got panservice too

>>281317526 (OP)
FIGHTING EVIL BY MOONLIGHT

>>281330850
>Petz and Sapphires relationship
>unearned
Were you not paying attention? Sapphire was the guy who dumped Petz that gave her a grudge against men and made her into a bitter bitch, which was supposed to parallel and foil Mako’s senpai rejecting her.

>I love the Ayakashi Sisters and find Esmeraude entertaining, but I didn’t care at all about Demande and I like Wiseman more as a concept than as a character. I didn’t expect him to go out with what’s basically the Sailor Moon equivalent of the father-son Kamehameha.
What about Rubeus and Sapphire?

>>281330257
>Princession
Is it actually shoujo like the Magical Girls of yesteryear or is it more yuritroon slop?

>>281332125
It happens in a magical land where there's no boys allowed so the evil boys turn into girls to infiltrate in one episode.

>>281324780
>Mahou Shoujo to start the pandering to yuritroons trend
less pandering to yurifags and more like takeuchi was a yurifag herself, no?
even then, sailor moon (anime) is an is a pretty service-y series for people from all sorts of walks of life. fags get fiore and mamoru, lesbians get haruka and michiru, and heteros get seiya and usagi.
even trannies get chibiusa and hotaru

>>281332533
>less pandering to yurifags and more like takeuchi was a yurifag herself, no?
Yes, that’s exactly why she pandered to them and hated Ikuhara inserting fujobait in the 90’s anime.

>seiya and usagi
>hetero
Wouldn’t that be the tranny ship? Anyways the hetero ship of choice for yumes is clearly Demande/Usagi, glad we can agree Mamoru is ass either way though.

>>281331485
>Were you not paying attention?
I don't remember that detail, to be honest. I've been watching an episode a day, so if it was mentioned earlier in the arc, that could have been a couple of weeks ago. So to me, it looked as if their relationship was introduced for the first time in episode 40, the episode where Petz finds Sapphire wounded.
>What about Rubeus and Sapphire?
Rubeus was a decent villain: cold, manipulative, and overall a completely irredeemable bastard. Sapphire, like his brother, didn't leave much of an impression. I like their backstory, wish they had been introduced a little earlier in this arc.

>>281332656
>Wouldn’t that be the tranny ship?
not unless you think magical gender-benders are explicitly trannyshit or something
>the hetero ship of choice for yumes is clearly Demande/Usagi
true. completely forgot about him to be honest. girls don't play about their rapeships

why are magical girl threads on /a/ always so unbearably shit

Holy, the movie looks great in high definition. Why can't the BD for the series look this good instead of something that looks as if it was upcaled using waifu2x?

>>281332995
blame Toei for probably throwing the master tapes in some storage unit and forgetting about them

>>281332818
what make you think it will be?

also I see magical girls as a genre that has its own label and don't belong on general audience tier, take a close look at Sailormoon, the character design alone tells you exactly who the target audience is

>>281332723
>I don't remember that detail, to be honest. I've been watching an episode a day, so if it was mentioned earlier in the arc, that could have been a couple of weeks ago. So to me, it looked as if their relationship was introduced for the first time in episode 40, the episode where Petz finds Sapphire wounded.
Yeah it’s easy to miss but it’s also referenced in some other supplemental materials exclusive to Japan such as the Sailor Moon R Memorial Book and a Drama CD, basically Saphir dumped Petz for Demande, said Drama CD even has Petz outright calling Saphir a brocon in response.

>>281332656
>>281332748
>Demande/Usagi
Ikuhara made him gay for his brother though.

>>281332818
I only know that Sony Group likes Nanoha and Precure, but not other magical girl anime.
Sony always likes to schedule their own franchises to be released on the same day as their favorite anime.

>>281332818
It's pretty much entirely threads about Sailor Moon and Madoka that are shit. Though that may be due to some people only watching those anime.

>>281333368
>It's pretty much entirely threads about Sailor Moon and Madoka that are shit.
This, CCS threads are always comfy (well, until the precure salesfag schizo barges in), proving it’s the superior Mahou Shoujo.

>>281334039
It's not comfy when you are there

>>281334039
I've noticed there's that schizo that seems hell-bent on proving CCS was never popular despite the fact if it wasn't we wouldn't be having regular threads 25 years after it ended

>>281332818
I blame the girly mewmewfag for it all

>>281332818
Because this one schizo keeps making these threads to bitch

>>281332818
There's one schizo that makes threads like this one purely to bitch about magical girl shows, mainly Sailor Moon Madoka and Precure but CCS isn't immune from it either.

>>281334273
>>281332818
also blame all newfags... if you didn't watch the series first during the 90s you should be banned from even mentioning it

>>281330850
She doesn't get worse, there's just a lot more of her.

>>281334450
>you didn't watch the series first during the 90s you should be banned from even mentioning it
Because you’re too old to be watching it the first time as an adult?

>>281334801
where do you think we are.jpg

>>281334207

I'm just stating the facts. CCS's sales are dismal, unless you truly believe that CCS's sales are greater than those of Kadokawa Group's top ten franchises.

Madhouse prioritizes Overlord over CCS, and Kadokawa's financial report shows Overlord only making 450 million yen (from copyright licensing, merchandise sales, Gacha sales, BD and DVD sales, light novel sales, and manga sales).

During the same period, Precure earned 2.851 billion yen. You can imagine the situation at CCS, whose sales are even more dismal than Overlord's.

>>281285246

>>281285366

>>281317984
>characters do nothing
>a repetitive villain of the week appears
>they defeat it with slideshow animation

I wish sakura used this dress more frequently

>>281334207

The number of participants in the CCS thread was also very bleak.

>>281185353

>>281287992

>>281335148
CCS recently reached a bump limit in their threads like a week ago...

>>281335171
That's because I contributed 50 comments, and the other people who responded to me contributed over 100 comments.

In fact, it was because of me that the CCS thread didn't die prematurely.

Why do CCS fans love to deceive themselves so much.

>>281335001
>>281335148
notice how schizo never actually addresses the fact we have constant bump limit threads and CCS is still a cash cow for CLAMP 25 years after its Manga ended to the point of CCS Sakura having a major cameo in every one of their works? It's like we live in a different reality.

>>281335171
Don't engage with the mentally ill

>>281335252
really? well I have 1000 posts in every magical girl thread that's not CCS just to make unpopular little girl shows seem popular
CCS is undisputed winner

>>281335336
If CCS is CLAMP's cash cow, then CLAMP is pathetic.

CCS hasn't even made it into the top 100 in sales for years.

CCS fans can never produce sales data to prove that CCS is popular, because all authoritative sales rankings in Japan prove that CCS sales are very bleak.

>>281335336
This is a professional book on the animation industry in the National Library of Japan. Sales data proves that CCS is unpopular.

Don't show this to the precure nigger

>>281335547
Please provide real sales data to prove that your shitty anime is popular.

>>281335582
The sales data for CCS is not publicly available you bumbling retard

>>281335596
Undisclosed data doesn't exist, because sales in Japan require the payment of taxes to the Japanese government. If CLAMP had managed to evade taxes for nearly 30 years, they would have long been imprisoned by the Japanese government.

As long as CCS maintains tax records, this data will be accessible to professional market research organizations in Japan. While CCS fans may be foolish, don't assume others are as foolish as you.

>>281335340
Ok...

I like how schizo fag never addresses that there's more to revenue, profit, and success than what an unsourced book (that he can't understand btw he has no fucking clue what any of this means) says about it other than "This is a professional book.. somewhere. idk what it means I can't read eleven runes"

but he'll continue this schizophrenic delusion, for months at a time. I think we're going on three years now with not having a CCS thread in peace without schizo screaming "BUT DID YOU KNOW THIS BOOK IN A LIBRARY APPARENTLY SAID IT DIDN'T SELL WELL???????"

>>281335596
CCS is an anime aimed at otaku, and Kadokawa's top ten best-selling titles are also anime aimed at otaku.

For example, Kadokawa owns three wholly-owned subsidiaries that produce anime merchandise, and a significant number of official Re:Zero merchandise are produced by Kadokawa.

Kadokawa's financial reports show that, even with the popularity of the Re:Zero series, over 90% of its sales come from licensing the anime copyright, while sales of Re:Zero merchandise, light novels, and manga account for a very small portion. If you think CCS can make a lot of money from merchandise, you're mistaken.

According to this magic 8-ball I found.. CCS.. lost.

>>281335689
Provide the data if you can. oh wait, you can't because it's not publicly available. you know that the CLAMP exhibition has been running nationwide in Japan for over a year because it’s been so profitable, right? Where's the tax data for that?

>>281335582
CCS is the most popular and well-known Magical Girl series in all of East Asia fucking retard.

>>281335980
Do you know how much CLAMP Exhibitions actually makes? Sales totaled only 2 billion yen, and that doesn't go entirely to CLAMP. Instead, the profits are shared with the production committee and the owners of the exhibition venues.

Don't think 2 billion yen a year is a lot of money. Even the non-commercial Touhou Project makes more in a single year than CLAMP Exhibitions.

CCS fans can never come up with real sales figures, you are so incompetent.

>>281336014
However, the sales of CCS were very poor. Not to mention compared with Precure, even Kadokawa's animation could easily beat CCS in terms of sales.

>>281336086
This guy can't read lmao. The exhibit only happend for 3 months in Tokyo(03 July - 23 Sep) not a full year. The screencap literally says they made a profit of 2 billion yen from merchandise sales in Tokyo alone, not counting ticket sales. With 248,000 attendees, it surpassed the JoJo exhibit held at the same venue by 100,000. I'm arguing with an illiterate.

Stop arguing with the schizo. This thread is just getting worse and worse.

>>281336294
Do you know the population disparity between Tokyo and other Japanese cities?

Japan's most powerful consumers are concentrated in Tokyo. If CCS can't make much money in Tokyo, how can you expect it to make a lot of money in other Japanese cities?

>>281334801
If you already existed during the '90s and didn't watch it back then you should be ashamed of yourself and don't try to bandwagon later because you'll never belong. Simple as.

>>281336366
CCS fans are so incompetent that even the sales data of CCS has to be found for you by Precure fans. Your understanding of CCS is not even as high as that of Precure fans.

>>281336378
You fucking retard. This exhibition was one of the most attended exhibitions at The Tokyo National Art Center.

>>281336461
So what does this have to do with the dismal CCS sales? Is 2 billion yen a lot? This was CLAMP's largest exhibition ever, and it only made 2 billion yen.

Did you know that the non-commercial Touhou Project boasts over 2.5 billion yen in sales annually?

There's one CCS tranny that always hates on other Mahou Shoujo and calls them Toei slop. I hate that faggot so much.

>>281336530
>it only made 2 billion yen
This conversation is over you can't even process this simple shit.

>>281336582
Do you know how much Precure earns a year? Precure earns 50 billion yen a year.

>>281336550
I’m thinking it’s the Precure schizo falseflagging. They always show up at the same time in the CCS threads and keep repeating the same posts like a broken record.

>>281336582
The Idolmaster makes 60 billion yen a year. Compared to these anime, does CCS have very dismal sales?

>>281335936
Why don’t the mods do anything about the consistent schizo posting? I’m pretty sure it counts as trolling.

>>281336550
>There's one CCS tranny that always hates on other Mahou Shoujo and calls them Toei slop.
Toei slop is slop though, I’m fine with other non-Toei Magical Girls like Tokyo Mew Mew, Wedding Peach, Mermaid Melody, Shugo Chara, Sugar Sugar Rune, etc.

>>281336725
Because I can provide real sales data to prove that CCS is unpopular, but you can never produce any sales data to refute me.

>>281336839
All I know is that Japanese government officials and Sony Corporation both like Precure.

>>281336639
I don't think so. I have seen that SoB raiding since before Precure schizo even appeared and he (he claims to be a woman though lol) is eternally butthurt that CCS isn't as "respected" or "famous" or whatever.

>>281336550
Only Precure. Doremi is Toei too and is actually good.

>>281336839
90s Toei just by Ikuni alone mops the floor with your CCShit

all the good magical girl shows are yuri

>>281337021
I'm capable of appreciating both yuri and straight magical girls.

>>281337018
>90s Toei just by Ikuni alone mops the floor with your CCShit
Only Utena, and that’s because Ikuhara under Toei was too restricted by corporate to truly realize his full potential.

>>281332995
That was a fun time. I like all the character writing in the movie; the dialogue between the girls, and between Mamoru and Usagi, at the beginning of the movie feels so natural. The villain being a lonely person manipulated by a cosmic entity is kind of like a repeat of Black Lady, but it works. It's well-paced, too. It flew by. I had forgotten how short these 90s Toei movies were. The ones they made for Dragon Ball during that period were also around the hour mark, with some exceptions. Also:
>directed by Kunihiko Ikuhara
Holy shit, it shows. He was obviously involved in the series, so it doesn't come as a surprise, but his idiosyncrasies shine through in the movie in a way that they don't in the TV show.

>>281337021
>all the good magical girl shows are yuri
Actually they’re yaoi.

>>281337237
ccuuttee

>>281337237
>but his idiosyncrasies shine through in the movie in a way that they don't in the TV show.
>>281337126
>Toei was too restricted by corporate to truly realize his full potential
I wonder just how much gayer he would have made the show if the producers had allowed him to unleash his power. And just how much floral motif he would have crammed in, too

I don't think I'll ever touch Precure. don't want to turn out like THIS.

>>281337449
>I wonder just how much gayer he would have made the show if the producers had allowed him to unleash his power.
It was already pretty damn gay, see this scene here >>281333317

>>281337126
Nope, Ikuni peaked at S and even at his worst in SuperS still mogs CCS

>>281330649
Do your research before posting, Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon had lots of actual pantsu shots.
Actually you don't need to research but by simply watching it you'd know they exist.

>>281337530
damn bro, you just made clickbait without anything to click on

>>281337650
Shut the fuck up retard. NTA but you are an idiot who never adds anything of value, you are just a cancerfag schizo like the mewmewcuck

>>281337237
>>281337449
Reminder that Naoko hates this movie and personally disavowed it just because Ikuhara dared to pander to fujos and suggest Mamoru might be bi, yuritards are mentally ill.

Magical girl genre kind of died after the 90s

>>281337650
Based
Researches are intelligent adding everything of value and needs to be seen by all
The highest possible quality of posts in existence made are made by posters like you

>>281337884
>Magical girl genre kind of died after the 90s
You mean early 2000’s, after Precure and Nanoha appeared.

>>281337680
>necrobumps your dead thread on the 11th post
>as a result sparks discussion for 200+ replies more instead of dying
The exact opposite of your claim, he's very valuable

>>281329793
no, it's pronounced Supers.
the R is meant to mean Romance, by the way

I've found even more damaging sales evidence against CCS. Currently, the only CCS gacha still operating in the world is in China, and its sales there are abysmal. From January 1, 2025, to August 9, 2025, CCS's gacha sales totaled only $21,387. Based on the current USD/JPY exchange rate, this translates to approximately 3,159,501 yen (310,000 yen).

China has a population of 1.4 billion, yet CCS has only earned 310,000 yen in the Chinese market. Even Precure's annual concert ticket sales exceed CCS's gacha sales by 10 times.

From January 1, 2025 to August 9, 2025, the cumulative sales of Madoka's gacha are 3.22 billion yen.

>281339216
all this schizo obsessive research for some info that nobody but he cares about

Thank you Precure poster. Now I know which company's stocks to invest in in Japan!

I rest my case.

>>281339486
This kind of anime voting is meaningless. Anime votes can be faked, but sales figures cannot be manipulated. No one would use their own money to help a Japanese company falsify sales figures.

The sales of crappy anime like CCS are truly dismal, both in Japan and in China.

Forever alone virgin here
Nanoha, Precure, or Madoka?

>>281339216
Provide the source

>>281339675

https://www.qimai.cn/app/incomeEstimate/appid/6450409747/country/cn

>>281339675

https://www.qimai.cn/app/incomeEstimate/appid/6450409747/country/cn

This website seems to be the only mobile game sales inquiry website still in operation in China.

>>281339761
>need a Chinese phone to register and see the info
Useless

>>281339821
You can buy Chinese mobile phone numbers online. You will need it whenever you need to check sales data on Chinese websites.

I remember hair

>>281317526 (OP)
They're still good, sadly most of them are on manga form these days, Precure's choke hold on the genre is too strong.

>>281328567
Don't forget it was also based on that Toei tokusatsu about a magical girl or something.

>>281339216
>the only CCS gacha still operating in the world is in China
Actually the game's still globally available except for Japan. It stayed at #1 in downloads for a while when it came out in my country but months later numbers went down due lack of in-game contents. I also stopped playing after a month but the game's still alive for nearly 2 years

>>281339657
With Nanoha you will only meet men and trannies.
With Precure you will only meet men and trannies, but if you know moonrunes you will meet up girls too.
With Madoka you will meet men, trannies and very mentally ill women.
And that's how you solve your virgin problem.

>>281340061
>With Precure you will only meet men and trannies, but if you know noontimes you will meet up with girls too
Very little girls, don’t encourage anon to fulfill the stereotype of the Big Friend pedo who gets banned at Kig Shows please.

I think I spent around $200 on this game. Never in my life did I expect to spend that much on a gacha game and a CCS gacha game at that.

>>281339657
>>281340061
Get into CCS if you’re looking to meet actual well-adjusted cute women.

>>281340126
Nah, I have met adult girls into Precure too, both in Japan and overseas, if there is something that they have in common for this year is that they love Meroron.

>>281320908
Once again, shit taste. It doesn't even look like a uniform you fight in, just like a girl pop group. But at least it looks uni-form I guess

>>281340144
You might be onto something

>>281340002
Are there even any recent-ish magical girl manga? Mizukami's new manga has some magical girl aspects but the last time I checked some shoujo magazines it was the same bullshit as you see in shonen magazines. I guess Gushing Over Magical Girls was a manga. And Nanohas has a new manga.

>>281340152
>I have met adult girls into Precure as well
Well-adjusted women though? Can’t imagine any self-respecting adult woman unironically being a fan of an anime literally aimed at toddlers with kigs and everything, especially in Japan where it’s well known Precure is their equivalent of Blues Clues compared to here in the West.

>>281340254
Two things:
1. I am not sure why women are obssesed with DC
2. and why isn't DC popular in anywhere else?

>>281340254
Don’t let the Precure schizo see this, it’ll shatter his entire narrative concerning CCS’s popularity kek.

>>281340392
Um no, sweetie. you see, CCS isn't known in Japan at all. It's an obscure series!

>>281340367
A little of everything, it isn't seen as a bad thing for girls being into cute things in fact it's expected, unlike guys still being into toku which is considered kinda cringe.

>>281340425
McDonald's Japan has never cooperated with CCS. The only one that has cooperated with CCS seems to be Pizza Hut in Taiwan, and it's not even Pizza Hut or KFC in Japan that has cooperated with CCS.

>>281340425
What's his name /a/?

McDonald's Japan only conducts commercial cooperation with the most popular Japanese anime. It is obvious that in McDonald's eyes, CCS's popularity is not considered a popular anime.

What is even popular anime?

>>281330850
>she gets worse in later seasons (which begs the question: why bring her back when her arc was already resolved?)
In terms of character she stays around the same, but you have touched upon the fundamental issue. Now with R you got some sort of payoff, it was part of a complete character arc, and she is involved with at least one of the most interesting concepts in the series(Black Lady, although her execution was lacking), but it won't be happening again. Anyway, enjoy S while it lasts, after that you are headed to very noticeable decline in writing quality, though it will be still entertaining in terms of fun SoL stuff.

>>281340562
battle shonen

>>281340697
this but unironically

>>281340392
What the schizo is rambling here doesn’t reflect the show’s actual popularity worldwide. Anyone with a normal capacity for thinking would know this.

>>281332818
Honestly aside from the SM deconstruction arguments and the anti-CCS salesfag, most posters are fine.
Problem is how much space they take, at least the latter probably meets the criteria for spamming/flooding by now, especially since I have seen him haunt every CCS and related thread.

>>281340697
>precurefags diet 24/7

>>281340892
Based on sales, CCS may be popular among the world's poor, but these poor have very limited purchasing power. They won't buy CCS products simply because they like it. Consequently, CCS has never been included in any authoritative sales rankings in Japan. CCS's sales are so dismal that simply being popular among the poor is meaningless. Even McDonald's, KFC, and Pizza Hut in Japan are unwilling to collaborate with CCS.

Precure, on the other hand, primarily targets middle-class families in Japan. These middle-class families have significant spending power, consistently contributing over 50 billion yen in sales to the Precure line annually. This consumer base with significant purchasing power has made Precure one of Japan's top-tier franchises.

>>281340892

Just a simple comparison, which one is more popular in the world, CCS or Re:Zero series?

Then, if you look at Kadokawa's financial reports and see how much money the Re:Zero series makes each year, you should be able to guess how dismal CCS's sales are. Then, if you compare the sales gap between the Re:Zero series and the Precure series, you will understand how huge the sales gap between CCS and Precure is.

>>281285246

>>281340892
The Re:Zero series and CCS are both anime targeting otakus, and in terms of popularity, the Re:Zero series is the top-of-the-line version of CCS. If even the Re:Zero series, which is very popular all over the world, can't make much money, how can you think that the low-end version of CCS can make a lot of money?

>>281340144
Just don't let those cute women know about your sexual feelings towards the child characters

>>281340892

I actually don't think CCS deserves to be compared to the Re:Zero series. CCS isn't even as good as Overlord.

Madhouse currently prioritizes Overlord far more than Clear Card. Madhouse's official Twitter account has never posted any images related to CCS; Madhouse only cares about Frieren and Overlord.

This clearly demonstrates that in Madhouse's eyes, CCS's value isn't even as high as Overlord's. Furthermore, Kadokawa's financial reports show a significant sales gap between Re:Zero and Overlord, proving that Re:Zero's sales could be five or even ten times greater than CCS's.

https://x.com/Madhouse_News/media

Why doesn't Madhouse care about CCS now?

>>281340367
It is socially acceptable for women to have childish interests, especially in East Asia. Though the diction of that post is kind of telling, choosing to use adult girls instead of adult women.

>>281337884
It sure does feel that way.
Maybe straightforward MGs or at least the SM-style one just doesn't vibe with the modern anime audience, aside from Precure who just happened to establish itself at the right time?

>>281330257
Actually I might. I tend to prefer waiting for all eps to be available though.

popularities

>>281343071
What did he mean by this

Nerd

>>281317877
not the anons you're referring to but i did recently start watching sailor moon for the first time

>>281343418
Enjoy your TsuKINO then. Hope you mean the 90s one and not Crystal.

Magical Girls?

>>281344075
with glasses.

>>281344465
Magical glasses?

>>281344494
That get used only once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aQLxVRHtk4&t=3s

If CCS is really popular, why has it never held live performances or stage plays?

Should i start watching crystals

>>281345165
Can't recommend. If you want the manga plot, read the manga.

>>281317526 (OP)

Am an oldhead and I was the only male weeb in my dorm in the early 00's so I got a crash course in shoujo. Better days. I like the cozy watercolor backdrops.

Sailor Moon, Pretty Cure, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Symphogear, and Princess Orchestra have all held live performances and stage shows, but only the most popular CCS has never held any official live events.

No one gives a shit

>>281345475
Close enough since I have a younger sister who watched anime before going to school or before sleeping, mostly shojo and it did include magical girls.

>>281345489
Except they did, in 2023. Why are you so smug about not knowing anything? kill yourself already.

>>281345598
Report him for spamming already.
Also, they should have included a girl dressed as Sakura, and maybe one as Tomoyo.

>>281345237
is it bad

>>281326149
S had a mad scientists vs magical girls arc, but it devolved into Cthulhu mythos.

>>281345634
Well, it was cool that all the important VAs were there. I love everyone here especially Ogata.

>>281345689
Yes. The artstyle is worse than both the manga and the 90s anime, it uses 3DCG for transformations(until S3) and other than following the manga plot more closely, it doesn't do anything noteworthy.
If anything I can respect the decision to turn the equivalent of SuperS/Dream arc and Stars into movies because they didn't really deserve a full 40 eps season.

>>281345598

https://animageplus.jp/articles/detail/50726

This shit is not a live show or a stage play at all, it's just a special VA seminar.

>>281345808
When will you fucking learn
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-04-17/cardcaptor-sakura-celebrates-easter-and-sakura-birthday-with-musical-performances-original-skit/.130481

>>281345738

【開催場所】 品川インターシティホール

https://sic-hall.com/

The venue has a maximum capacity of only 700 people.

All of Precure's live events can accommodate over 800 spectators in the smallest venue and 17,000 in the largest venue.

>>281317526 (OP)
yep

>>281345920
The most popular CCS only has 700 spectators for its live performance.

>>281317526 (OP)
We really need go back…

>>281345806
is the manga worth the read

>>281346018
except MAIHAMA Amphitheater has 2000+ seats. I know this because I failed to get a ticket back in 2018.

>>281344792
>>281344878

>>281346052
https://ccsakura-official.com/news/index02890000.html

【開催場所】 品川インターシティホール
東京都港区港南2-15-4 品川インターシティ ホール棟

https://sic-hall.com/

This performance venue can only accommodate 700 spectators.

>>281346050
If only out of curiosity or if you really dislike the monster of the week format, also you get some exclusive attacks. The anime is far more entertaining and humourous, if that's what you liked about SM then I don't know if you will enjoy something a lot more serious.

>>281317526 (OP)
why did you make this entire thread just to shit it up kyoukonigger?

>>281346126
That was the second Sakurafes lmao
can you not fucking read?

>>281346152
Meds

>>281341684
nothing is worse than overlord you spamming nigger. the very concept of you having watched any of it invalidates any opinion on anime you have, even.

>>281346152
>sanest yuritard

>>281346205
Overlord has earned Madhouse far more money than CCS. Madhouse sees no value in a crappy show like CCS, which has extremely low profitability.

>>281346292
>overlord earned
I dont care how much jew money and sheep goylems slobbered over whoever owns this degenerate slopfest known as (((overlord))). its easily the worst isekai and anime, including contenders such as reincarnated as a slime and that one with a budget of maybe 5000 dollars

>>281340562
futanari no elf

>>281329793
The S stands for sex. There was Sex, Super then Super Sex.

>>281346593
>venus-sees-your.1723186099336561
What do the numbers mean Minako

Apparently 4chan forgot about that as well.
At least /g/ has the Sailor Moon banner.

This one

This is the most popular IP in Japan, but it does not have CCS.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/2025-japan-media-brands-popularity-survey-age-gender-trends-anime-gaming-manga-ips-entertainment-genres-media-music-acts-etc.1248051/

https://xtrend.nikkei.com/atcl/contents/18/01178/00010/

If CCS fans don't trust Japan's most authoritative sales rankings, then this is a ranking of Japan's most popular IPs compiled by Nikkei Business Publications, a subsidiary of The Nikkei, based on extensive nationwide surveys and statistical data. The absence of CCS on this list proves that CCS isn't popular in Japan.

>>281346593
Sneaky Skink!

>>281347724
why is she sad

https://x.com/merusepi00q/status/1954132329229644060

i rmemeber vividly

>>281346593
>seasons named "Sex"
>no panty shots

>seasons not named "Sex"
>panty shots galore

Your thesis is flawed

>>281348648
That's actually really cute.

>>281348835
Leotards don't count. Plus think about which characters actually have sex and when.

>>281320731
i love sailor uniforms

>>281348835
how old is her mom

>>281348835
>>281346593
Because as others already mentioned it stands for SUPER and you're reminded of it every episode, you stupid unfunny dumbfucks

>>281348930
There were some pantyshots as well. There's a whole compilation on sadpanda.

>>281347359
Please explain how Precure mogged CCS with infographs and interviews

>>281348067
No lemon/vanilla cookie

>>281349715
Can you not engage him

>>281349525
14+1+14 = 29.

>>281349715
This. I'd rather read the Precure schizo than these other retards

>>281349939
I'm not retarded. Go fuck yourself.

>>281350023
>proving to be retarded
sasuga

>>281349919
i think youre missing a ten there

>>281350023
is it wrong that i wanted her to fall for him

>>281350505
Umino would have been more entertaining than Mamoru for sure.

>>281350614
what would they even seen in eachother and would it even work

>>281351228
Umino liked Usagi as the start, but yeah it's very one-sided.

>>281351341
Umino got the girl he deserved, and will also age at the same rate as him

>>281351481
Literally better relationship than the main one, and a very cute idea to pair these two.
Speaking of Naru, the Nephrite arc was some uber kino.

>>281351481
Sorry, She into oldest handsome villains.

>>281351708
Well he's fucking dead

>>281351725
She got him in one world at least.

>>281351791

>>281346593
Anon…

>>281351832

Why is one guy going to bat for a corpo franchise? They make a series and whatever other spinoffs per year. It doesn't need defending

>>281346050
>is the manga worth the read
Only if you’re a yuritroon that hates fujos

>>281352663
Obsessed.

>>281353394
Lewd girl.

>>281352663
/u/roon fear futanari chads

>>281351861
Did she really date multiple guys or is that a meme?
>>281350614
Did the anime ever explained why Usagi is in love with Mamoru?

>>281353715
Just watch it.
>Did she really date multiple guys or is that a meme?
Yes she did. Both were villains too.
>Did the anime ever explained why Usagi is in love with Mamoru?
She likes Tuxedo for coming in to save her ass.

>>281353538
Speaking of, when the fuck is RPGMaker2 going to come out with another book?

>>281329945
>>281330850
I hated how they tried to make Chibiusa into a second MC at a few points, I found her annoying too and I grew to hate her so much for taking screen time away from my JK thighs.

>>281354004
PS2 games look fun

>>281354007
>I hated how they tried to make Chibiusa into a second MC at a few points
Yeah that. I think that's why Chibiusa gets flack more than anything, she is also a brat but you can find that funny or justified up to R, but it's hard to forgive being an active detriment to the show.

>>281353792But I find both of them completely incompatible.

>>281324617
>You want to know why Sailor Moon has a big male following? It's because it's liked by submissive boys who want the senshi to dom them. Yup, that's the reason even though the senshi don't act that way at all. Also, Japanese boys in particular are very weak and pathetic. Just wanted to mention that. For all of you male fans, I hope you understand how pathetic you are, you perverted masochistic boys.
What the fuck is her problem? Why does she have to say this nonsense just because she's mad about getting dumped?

>>281354584
She wants to be corrected, so she disrespects truth.

>>281354584
She never said that, you are replying to a spamming moron and anyway nobody cares what that hack thinks.

Give me your best magical girl series ideas.

>>281355180
stfu girly spammer and go bite fingers somewhere else

>>281355206
Meds

Do you guys write stories about the series?

>>281355378
Not really, do you?

>>281355792
I mean have ideals but no not really.

>>281354579
To think Shantae rip off this character

>>281355180
Magic Knight Rayearth but good

>>281356675
But how do you engooden it

>>281343453
usagi is really pretty

>>281337650
Why anime refused to be detailed?

>>281357263
And hilarious.
She is carrying so fucking hard.

>>281354584
>What the fuck is her problem?
She’s a female yuritard

>>281347359
med

Im about to write sailor moon story either inspired superman red son or and dmc remake but way less in your face

cool thread

>>281355180
>Give me your best magical girl series ideas.
Tranny Mahou Shoujo, a team of boys transforms into Magical Girls, will have both yaoi and yuri.

>>281360318
Wow terrible

Why are there so up skirt shot of chibiusa

>>281355180
Story about ganguro and gyaru magical girls

>>281359155
>either inspired superman red son or and dmc remake
Even Saint Seiya Netflix wasn’t that bad fanfic

>>281360849
She's only good for sex

>>281360893
That's cool.

>>281360921
what

>>281355180
the girls transform into their superpowered magical forms via fusion, like Gotenks.

>>281361873
>fusing girls together
>you get things like oppai lolis
Sign me up

>>281355378
yeah, I'm plotting out a crossover with DBZ right now. basically the inner scouts get swapped with the Z fighters, with the latter ending up in Tokyo and the former on Namek. I thought it'd be funny to see how the Ginyu Force react to Moon & Co.

>>281335458
I've never watched CCS, but I've been consistently aware of it and frequently reminded of its popularity for as long as I can remember.
The fact that I have no attachment to it at all, but always seems to stay in the public consciousness enough for it to always be a factor, kind of implies to me that it's pretty popular to some degree.
I don't have or really care about any sort of metrics, but it would seem really weird to me if it somehow 'wasn't popular', yet my whole life it's seemingly always been considered one of the more beloved series.

>>281362029
Ignore the faggot.
Do watch CCS

>>281335148

>>281334902

The CCS thread died quickly again.

How different your teenself met the girls

>>281362029
There are two possible reasons for CCS's poor sales.

The first possibility is that CCS has a very small core fan base, while the majority of CCS fans are casual fans. These core fans spend a lot of money on CCS, buying every new merchandise it releases and attending every CCS event. Meanwhile, casual fans only watch CCS on TV or streaming media. They have only a moderate interest in CCS and won't buy merchandise related to the anime just because they like it, nor will they waste time attending CCS events.

The second possibility is that although CCS has a huge fan base around the world, most of its fans are very poor. Although they want to support CCS by purchasing products, they live in poverty and do not have the spare money to support CCS. They can only support CCS through online anime voting. Therefore, CCS usually ranks higher in online voting, but its actual sales volume cannot enter any authoritative anime sales rankings in the world.

>>281362029

>>281339216

For example, China has a huge population, yet CCS's gacha only generates 310,000 yen there, while Precure earns significantly more from any live performance.

So, while it's not true that there aren't wealthy people in China, the number of Chinese willing to spend money supporting CCS is extremely small. Meanwhile, the vast majority of Japanese people are willing to support Precure, contributing over 50 billion yen in annual sales. This suggests that Precure has a vast core fan base, while CCS's is extremely rare.

>>281362029
Right? I visited Japan a few weeks ago. It was my third time and whenever I went to Akihabara, I could find a CCS merch corner in almost every shop. To think that the guy wants us think that CCS was/is never popular... lol.

>>281361522
>nani
Huh?

>>281362500
>shilling Toei slop
Nobody cares, also why is my beloved
Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne in that image? Was its anime version really done by Toei? I never knew that… mostly cause I only read the manga

>>281363533

>>281285246

I find CCS fans generally quite stupid.

These are the top ten best-selling anime from Kadokawa. Kadokawa has a very high penetration rate in the Japanese anime industry. Do you think a crappy anime like CCS makes more money than Kadokawa's top ten best-selling anime?

And of the sales share of Kadokawa's best-selling anime, over 90% of the sales come from anime copyrights. Gacha, figures, light novels, and manga combined account for less than 10% of the total sales.

Judging from Toei Animation's financial reports, Precure's revenue from copyright licensing alone is already greater than the merchandise sales of Kadokawa Animation's best-selling anime.

Crap anime like CCS doesn't even make as much from merchandise sales as Precure does from copyright licensing.

>>281363840
'90s Toei >>>>> CCS

I find all this talk of sales retarded (and it won't make Precure not be trash) but it would make sense to me for Precure to have more revenue than CCS considering it has more than 10x as much anime content (and likely many more toys for kids to buy) and has likely been running longer in terms of years than all the CCS stuff combined.

>>281363533
Precure makes more money each year from sales than any of Kadokawa's best-selling anime. If CCS fans really think your shitty anime is a hit, first beat the top ten best-selling anime on Kadokawa's sales charts before comparing sales to Precure.

Never seen a precure fan outside of these threads in my whole life. Are they all this much of a rabid fanboy?

>>281364053
For some reason this poster refuses to stay in his containment thread.

>>281364029
The poor sales of CCS prove that CCS is a rubbish anime, unless the vast majority of CCS fans are poor.

Furthermore, CCS's sales have been poor since 1999. This has nothing to do with the length of the CCS anime series.


>Charabiz DATA
https://eigaworldwide.github.io/chara-market

>>281364179
Revenue and quality are not related. You can prove this very easily by your own argument as Precure makes a lot of money and yet is garbage.

>>281360436
And unoriginal. There's like 3 of those now. Some with giant robots.

>>281364029

CCS was only selected into the top 100 annual sales figures in Japan's retail market in 1999. After 2000, CCS fell out of the top 100 annual sales rankings.

>Charabiz DATA
https://eigaworldwide.github.io/chara-market

>>281363443

Why are we talking about ccs

>>281361995
Go watch it, then.

>>281364309
because somebody likes it

>>281364214

I'm increasingly convinced that CCS fans are being incredibly stupid. Have you truly never watched other Japanese children's anime?

For example, Sanrio, Pokémon, Anpanman, Doraemon, Chibi Maruko-chan, Crayon Shin-chan, Detective Conan, Aikatsu, and Pretty series.

Compared to these children's anime, isn't Precure's animation quality top-notch? Do these TV anime feature a lot of sakuga action scenes?

>>281364053
I find it funny that he never posts his own merch or any pictures he’s taken himself from show related events. even though he's this much of a rabid fan.

>>281364362
Good animation doesn't make up for being shit. The very premises of Precure are garbage. It's a terrible magical girl franchise just like Sailor Moon. And you're a subhuman for devoting so much time to defending corporate sewage for free.

I do like CCS but I'm not the person you've been going back and forth with for most of this thread. I also like many other magical girl series.

As of 2023, Precure's cumulative sales are expected to be 957.5 billion yen, and CCS's cumulative sales are expected to be 8.9 billion yen.

>Charabiz DATA
https://eigaworldwide.github.io/chara-market

>>281364325
Heel

>>281364456
Can you tell me anything about Hana no ko Lunlun?

How did Under Ninja do? It's one of the only good anime this decade.

>>281364362
>CCS
>children’s anime
It’s for teen girls and fujos, it NOT being a kids anime is precisely why it’s so good unlike your toddler Precure garbage.

>>281361995
>>281364326

>>281364456
We would love to see the sales of garbage anime like CCS continue to decline until this shitty anime completely disappears from the anime market.

Because CCS can no longer attract new fans in Japan, when those CCS fans over 40 years old grow old, CCS will be on the verge of death.

>>281364521
Anime name?

>>281364552
You can find it on tubitv ;)

>>281364493
CCS fans are so idiotic. You're the ones saying Precure's animation quality is poor. I'm comparing Precure with Japanese children's anime, proving that Precure's animation quality is among the highest in Japan.

Since you know CCS isn't a children's anime, why are you comparing the animation quality of children's anime with adult anime? Are you, CCS fans, just idiots?

>>281364456
We would love to see the sales of garbage anime like CCS continue to decline until this shitty anime completely disappears from the anime market.

Because CCS can no longer attract new fans in Japan, when those CCS fans over 40 years old grow old, CCS will be on the verge of death.

We?

>>281364728
-ARE!

What are the measurements of sailor scouts

>>281360849
>The old dub censored all the gay
>Didn’t censor Chibiusa fanservice
What did they mean by this?

>>281364728
Yes, most Japanese people hope that CCS will die. If the Japanese do not want CCS to die, CCS would not have such poor sales as it does now, and it would not have been excluded from any authoritative sales rankings in Japan for more than 20 years.

>>281317526 (OP)
wtf I just started watching sailor moon for the first time this week, get out of my mind

>>281364996
how old is she in the anime also its cute

Grade A 'tism

>>281365190
grim.

There is the Precure series for children and the Madoka series for adults. CCS is not needed in this market.

>>281365190

>>281365604
This way of thinking is why we only get trash anymore. The demographic between literal toddlers and otaku adults is largely untapped. And between the two is where most of the good magical girl series were.

>>281318021
Ugly art style

>>281365604
Madoka is for men and Precure is for toddlers, there’s nothing for women and teen girls.

>>281365604
CCS is needed for the teen girls and fujos, see here >>281365957

>>281365957
Madoka is for nu-male and elfen lied/deadman wonderland for real man*

>>281366295
Please explain why CCS isn't on these sales and popularity rankings? Why are CCS's sales in the Chinese market so dismal?

If teenage girls and young women need CCS, and if CCS is successful in reaching the female market, why has CCS failed in both the Japanese and Chinese markets?

>>281347098

>>281340488

>>281339216

>>281335458

>>281365190
Are all Precurefags this autistic?

>>281366676
He doesn’t try Devil Lady pachinko

Is this going to be come a flame war

Guys ignore the spammer, he’s obviously just jealous that CCS is known as a work of art globally and CLAMP is a household industry name while he knows Precure is only well-known in Japan and is only enjoyed by toddlers and manchildren pedos.

>>281366920
I'm not sure which one I hate more this guy or the precure shill.

>>281366920
CCS only earned 310,000 yen in the world's most populous country. CCS also suffered a serious commercial failure in Japan. It seems that no one in the world likes this kind of shitty art.

>>281367040
>>281364279

>>281367040
So why are there more CCS fans globally compared to Precure?

>>281367077
What's the significance of 2023 sales figures? Total gacha sales in 2023 were only 400 million yen. Did you know that Precure earned 351 million yen in just three months, relying solely on copyright revenue? Did you know that Precure's merchandise sales could earn over 12 billion yen in just three months?

CCS only makes 400 million yen a year, less than what Kadokawa's Re:Zero series earned in three months.

What does the fact that CCS can earn 400 million yen in 2023 have to do with the fact that it can only earn 310,000 yen in 2025? This only proves that CCS is becoming less and less popular in China.

>Did you know~
kek

>>281367108
Why are CCS fans all over the world from poor families? Why are Precure fans all from middle-class families?

>>281367221
Japan has a higher-standard of living and one of the richest 1st world countries retard

CCS Gacha will make less money in 2023 than the Re:Zero series made in 3 months.

If the precure poster drink this, will he die?

>>281352378
>He does it for free

>>281332818
because unironically /v/ has better userbase than /a/

>>281335091
Spoken like someone who only watched five minutes of the show.

>>281368416

>>281367185
These numbers mean jackshit when I can't even name a single precure MC even though I've been an avid anime watcher for more than 10 years but I know who Sakura, Usagi and Madoka are, because they're iconic.

>>281368536
But Sailor Moon and Madoka are just as shit as Precure

>>281368536
These sales figures are very significant, as they suggest that the remaining life of CCS is short.

>>281368063
The answer is Madoka btw

>>281366376
SM might as well be a bondage series with how many eps have a monster who can bind and wrap the girls somehow.
So much for the senshis being doms.

>>281364309
The spammer sucks but the thread was intended for all magical girls, I believe.
For me, it's difficult to find mahoushojo I genuinely dislike, and especially not the likes of Sailor Moon or Cardcaptor Sakura because they are pretty good at their respective style. For things like Madoka, I just consider them a very different thing, I wish it was more upfront about the fact that you aren't in for cute MG stuff, although I guess it's not completely absent.
And since Precure also gets mentioned a lot, all I can say is that I didn't find it particularly appealing back when the first one aired in my country, but I can't remember much aside from Nagisa and Honoka anyway. Maybe I can try to watch the old ones at least.

>>281320731
It just looks good

>>281369218
>so much for the Senshis being doms
The bondage segments are only in the 90’s anime, in the manga the girls basically never get wrapped, and the manga versions are whom Naoko was referring to as Doms

I do like Sailor Moon, and Madoka Magica.
But the most quintessential Magical girl in my mind is still Cardcaptor Sakura.
Has there really been any worthwhile magical girl shows since Madoka? Genuine question, I'm not rhetorically implying there hasn't been.

>>281365113
I'm in your walls. Also there are several anons doing that atm, hence why people make more threads focused on Sailor Moon. It's not exactly random, I was thinking about them too.

>>281365141
Mentally no older than 10, but like 3000 yo or something physically.

>>281365190
Why mods don't do anything about this guy?

>>281369984
It's now canon that the difference between anime and manga Sailor Moon is that the girls are masochistic subs in the former and hopefully "regular" doms in the latter.

>>281370001
>But the most quintessential Magical girl in my mind is still Cardcaptor Sakura.
Fair enough. Sailor Moon, for how popular and well-liked it might be, is a genre variation so you can't really call it "quintessential" as much as Sakura who is doing exactly what people watched magical girls for at the beginning.
>Has there really been any worthwhile magical girl shows since Madoka?
Calling Madoka an actual magical girl show aside... Symphogear, it came out like one year after that officially.

>>281332818
When in doubt, blame the yuritards

>>281370083
>symphogear
Oh, true. do love me some symphogear

>>281370004
CCS fans may lie, but the sales data will not lie. The sales data proves that CCS is an anime that is on the verge of death.

>>281370206
No one gives a shit. Also even if people forgot Sakura overnight it wouldn't make it any worse, or better. Popularity says very little about actual quality, otherwise I would be watching capeshit instead of decades old magical girl anime.

>>281366388
Madoka is for manly men.
You don’t deserve to date the megucas if you’re a nu-male.

>>281320730
Kill yourself, Kyoukonigger.

>>281370248
Manly ojisans want to fuck this one silly >>281370214 actually. Sometimes Sakura too.
Madoka came out like 15 years ago, the audience is zoomers who don't even know what manly means.

Akko

>>281370357
Gokubro btw

You should be able to name all these

>>281370248
it's for edgy cringelords who tend to be weedy loser catty effeminate nerds

>>281370793
Extroversion is a feminine trait

>retarded spammer also hates Goku
Some good ammo to remember.

>>281370841
the people I'm referring to wish nothing more than to be extroverts.

>>281370761
I didn't watch most of these to completion, but this pic made me realize I was exposed to a fuckton of magical girls.
No wonder I ended up here.

>>281370874
Then they're not madokaCHADS

>>281370910
Madokucks*
petty LowT dorks that want to lash out at society because it wasn't "nice" to them. woman-brained behaviour

>>281370935
>petty LowT dorks that want to lash out at society because it wasn't "nice" to them
Madoka isn't for people like that at all
People like that are witches, the show literally encourages you to murder them.

>>281370950
>revenge power fantasy
only weak effeminate losers seek this BTW
same mindset that leads to Cheat Skill isekai

>>281370970
>revenge power fantasy
?

>>281370983
>ESL
says it all

Bump limit achieved, but at what cost?

>>281370996
Not sure what force meme about?

>>281369132
Nope. It c. yui
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geCoxmskYtc

Next thread when

>>281372407
When you make it.

Reminder that usagi mom is hot

>>281370494
She's already silly and eager to fuck. Just have to wear a mask.