Thread 281372601

I’m way late on this, but what the hell happened here. For the first time in a decade, they finally created a badass character worth investing in. And then they fuck him over like that?

gojo glazers still be mad fr

Dead forgotten series.

>>281372601 (OP)
Just because someone is cool and strong, they shouldn't be protected from death or even humiliation.

Gege's error was to bring him back (probably under pressure by his editor) up to that point he had managed to come up with arguably one of the most interesting versions/developments of the whole "character is so overpowered that he's basically a god amongst men" in recent manga along with pic related. The idea of having him and having the bad guys have to come up with some contrived way of temporarily taking him out of the picture because they know they can't do shit with him around and can't ever beat him was really smart and probably the highlight of JJK's writing.

A shame he folded and brought him back for some powerwankery and fanservice.

>>281372601 (OP)
I liked his death. It's one of the few things in the last several volumes of JJK I enjoyed.

>>281373060
Killing the only reason the Manga was popular so the little fags could get the win is a good thing?

>>281372601 (OP)
JJK doesn't have characters, it has action figures with no personality. Lloyd from 7th Prince clears Gojo easily.

>>281372601 (OP)
>bottom pics

Why’d they make him gay?

>>281372601 (OP)
Japs are awful writers. And writing a powerful omnipotent protagonist is difficult as hell, just look at Superman, for instance. Superman writers tend create awful asspulls and shitty ways to create a struggle for him, e.g. make him evil, kill him just to bring back when he's needed, create villains stronger than him, create villains immune to Supes' powers, etc.
Now imagine Japs writing a Superman. Of course it's gonna be a trainwreck.

>>281372601 (OP)
not the mc

>>281373117
It made for a more interesting story than leaving him in the plot-box or letting him save the day. I never found Gojo that compelling anyway.

>>281372601 (OP)
I think the real problem is that Gege was telling us before and after gojo died for chapters that he kind of hated gojo and wanted him gone from the story. As i do not think Gege saw anything of himself in gojo and making him as he was was a massive mistake he wishes he could take back. That way he could get back to writing about the characters he actually loved and saw so much of himself in.

The two things i can think of that made it so Gege needed to get rid of gojo are. One he is kind of not the type of character Japanize writers of this day and age want anything to do with. To the point most guys like him are made to be villains that the heroes kill in the end to prove there righteousness and glory. Proving that lone wolves that go there own way in this society will always be hammered down the hardest like the to prideful nails that they are. The children should never be thought or shown that those types of trouble makers have anything to say or prove to the rest of society and any points they have about life are always wrong. Hell gojos last will to his students may as well have just been him telling his kids to stop standing out in any way that you can and just be miserable office drones like everyone else so you do not end up splattered on the roadside like me.

For two i think Gege just hated that a mistake in his writing like gojo became his most popular character bar none when he saw nothing in himself in gojo proving he is nothing but a vary lame and boring person at heart. And living with that staring you back in the mirror everyday is a truly infuriating and miserable way to live. So gojo needed to die most of all for doing that to his creator. After all what god of the mind could ever stand one of his own creations mocking him with his own inferiority in his own mind?

>>281374294
What causes somone to invent these delusional fantasies about a complete stranger?

>>281372971
The best overpowered character is a dead one.

>>281374460
Neutrality.

>>281372601 (OP)
Gojo is just a ripoff of Ban Mido from Getbackers, they even got a extremely similar VA.

>>281372601 (OP)
He was just a particularly well executed Kakashi, but just like Kakashi that made him the best character in his series.
But unlike the Naruto series, Gojo was basically the only interesting hero character. So every bit of interest got focused on him.

>>281374294
>and making him as he was was a massive mistake he wishes he could take back.
Doubt it.
Gojo was the first character in JJK that Gege ever made. You can even see him get iterated upon in his pre-serialization one shots. With there being several beta versions of the character made before the final.
The reason that Gojo comes off as the most interesting character in JJK, is that he was the one that Gege spent the most time on creating.
Perhaps at some point Gege fell out of love with Gojo, but that was after spending years iterating on him in a way that you don't see with other members of the cast.

Nobody cares

I was so happy when gojo died because it was really cool even though I really like gojo, 0 qualms with him dying. Wouldn't make any sense for him to beat sukuna but without his 1v1 the group vs sukuna wouldn't have lasted as long as it did. it'll take another 10 years before something comes along that surpasses JJK. It's the best selling manga of the decade for a reason.

FACTS

>>281372601 (OP)
>a badass character worth investing in.
He wasn't all that

>>281372601 (OP)
He's literally just an arrogant lazy asshole born with OP powers, how did people find this to be a compelling character?

>>281375663
Because he’s hot

>>281375663
Shounen niggers don't usually watch any harem fantasy or isekai so gojo was a breathe of fresh air to them.

>>281373117
cope gojocuck, he wasnt even first in the polls and gege hated him

>>281372763
OP must be an isekai fan. I just can't understand their thought process

>>281373665
Mappa made the anime wrong on purpose. Fuck em

can anyone give me archive link to initial go/jo meltdown? it would be greatly appreciated.

>>281376331
I second this.

>>281372971
This was also done in re:zero with this guy here and there. Gojo's VA but also similar in being an overpowered character needing contrived solutions. It can make for fun storytelling if done right.

>>281374460
Bros got an entire fanfiction about this author

>>281372601 (OP)
>created a badass character worth investing
>generic gary stu number 1.836

>>281375663
He made those powers OP.
Another character was given his body and he jobbed in like 30 seconds because he couldn't control the magic well.

>>281372601 (OP)
>badass character
How? He is bland fujobait.
The only badass character in this series is Toji. Although he gets milked too much in Shibuyia.

>>281372601 (OP)
>created a badass character worth investing in
This is the pic I meant to use

>>281375663
Because you either get the good guy who's OP but also a nice goody-two-shoes saint or the arrogant asshole who's OP but is a bad guy or a antihero at best. There's not many characters out there like Gojo

>>281372601 (OP)
>No refunds
Based GayGay.

>>281374558
dont forget killua

>>281372601 (OP)
>anon is surprised that style over substance slop doesn't have substance
wow

>>281372601 (OP)
Anyone know what the reaction was like here when he died?

>>281372601 (OP)
>I’m way late on this, but what the hell happened here. For the first time in a decade, they finally created a badass character worth investing in. And then they fuck him over like that?
Pic unrelated?

Did you really think the mentor character would be the one to defeat the main antagonist in the end instead of the main character? Don't be retarded.

The moment Gojo went up against Sukuna in a 1v1 fight to the death he already dug his own grave.

>>281375663
>Well written overpowered character.
Just read Ragna Crimson.

You wasn't
You wasn't
You wasn't even close
But from a distance
Some confuse a sheep for GOAT

>>281372971
>The idea of having him and having the bad guys have to come up with some contrived way of temporarily taking him out of the picture because they know they can't do shit with him around and can't ever beat him was really smart and probably the highlight of JJK's writing.

Incorrect. Since you have paused any sort of actual movement on the story until the OP character is freed.

>>281372763
This. The needs of the narrative/themes take precedence over any sentimentality over characters.

I'm not surprised that people like OP are becoming more and more common. Many of the stories that people read and write nowadays are in the mountains of self-published dross on sites like RoyalRoad, Syosetu, Narou, Scribblehub et al. Many of them by amateur writers with too much attachment to self-inserts and too little attachment to the craft.

>>281372601 (OP)
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WHY DID MY HERO GET KILLED WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Go read "I was reincarnated as a badass hero with a cheat skill, got kicked out by my party and now I'm gonna destroy their lives". It's probably more up your alley.

>>281380789
It seemed obvious to me

>>281378984
Nah, he’s really just a poorly written Ban, immense ego and clowning included.

>>281372601 (OP)
Anon... he was the really powerful mentor...
Did you really think he wasn't gonna job to make the big bad look like a bigger threat for when the MC beats him?

>>281381111
Yeah I agree with this. I guess theoretically you could have structured a final battle to be purely a desperate struggle to release the overpowered mentor and then when you finally do it have him stomp the big bad guy. That would have been a pretty unique structure for a final war arc of a shonen battle manga.

>>281372601 (OP)
He carries the series so hard my 50 yo dad remembers it because of him and nobody else.
He's been telling me
>Ohh.. That series with the blonde haired guy (lol) and special blue eyes that was so strong, it was good. They should make a new season.
He doesn't even properly remember the hair color or the name of the anime, but that's all he could tell you about Jujutsu Kaisen, Gojo defined it enough to leave that imprint.

>>281381111
>>281381862
However, the story does move forward since the bad guy's plan can now continue without being opposed by the OP person. Like in JJK.
The OP person doesn't ever have to be released or if they're released they can lose to up the stakes.

>>281377587
Yuji is lame as shit, only Deku is lamer than him.
The guy barely does anything in HIS STORY

>>281382187
Totally wrong. Yuji is a major badass and always fights above his weight class. He is an actual underdog even though the manga didn't lean on that as a selling point.

He is involved in all the major events in the manga.

>>281381147
The problem is the unsatisfactory writing for something setup since the start, the payoff wasn't there because Sukuna didn't lose anything meaningful.
If you're going to have the mentor / badass character killed, they should achieve some small victory or setup the next fighters for the win. Gege, in his infinite Sukuna glaze, didn't let Gojo have this to any meaningful degree, it felt like crumbs. Sukuna wasn't weakened in any way we could perceive with our own 2 eyes after the fight, since he even got a free revive & upgrade afterwards. The only supposed nerf was that he couldn't temporarily use Domain because it was still on cooldown (and he didn't really need it, he freaking killed the next strongest fighter with low difficulty just spamming his usual attacks), and something about his Dimensional World Slash now needing hand signs and a chant... Which is a FREAKING MADE UP NERF, HE LITERALLY DIDN'T HAVE THAT POWER BEFORE FIGHTING GOJO. You realize how crappy that is? Same as the 10 Shadows summons, those were things exclusive for the Gojo fight, him losing them doesn't feel very relevant, it was like Gojo breaking his secondary gear he stole from some kid.
Instead, to make it more relevant, perhaps make the 10 Shadows a KEY for Sukuna's greater plans or at least something that would accelerate it. Mention how Mahoraga can be used to summon Tengen or something, so Gojo stopped an apocalypse by killing it. Or have Sukuna start with his legendary Cursed Weapon and let Gojo destroy it, instead of Higuruma confiscating it. We'd see how vastly stronger Sukuna is with a weapon and realize they're only winning because Gojo took care of that.
PERMANENTLY NERF HIS REGENERATION, if Sukuna couldn't regen during the entire final battle because of his wounds against Gojo it would be cool. Or have him entirely sacrifice his Domain to do the World Slash, it was a cheat, at that point it was like a little kid killing a bear, the cost should be losing your power

>>281382278
>Totally wrong. Yuji is a major badass and always fights above his weight class
Yuji never won an important fight on his own, he's always relying on big bro Todo or someone else to carry his useless ass.
>He is involved in all the major events in the manga
That means shit when the character never has anything interesting to do or say, let alone influence the plot with his actions.
Megumi is also involved in all the major events, and he is a crime against writing itself.

There are people who can watch Gojo's introduction in the 2nd episode, Sukuna flat out stating he is going to kill Gojo first, and then finally Gojo's past arc and not get that he is eventually going to fail catastrophically.

>>281372601 (OP)
Everyone ITT saying mentor characters always die, etc. completely discount how popular this character was. No shonen since the 2020s could even sniff the levels Gojo was reaching. Then they kill him off like a little fag and the series tanks as a result.

Gege had $$$ off a fluke and he just fumbled it and now the series is nearly completely forgotten.

>>281381111
Literally the opposite was true for JJK tho, the manga had no story and no stakes until preparations for Shibuya started

>>281383425
He also had the other characters not even care that he died... and that makes no sense for them.

Imagine if Dumbledore died and Harry was like
"!!! *shocked face*"

Then the next chapter, he and his friends are LOLING and pulling pranks on each other. And they never bring it up again.

Truly bizarre move.

Still love Nobara though.

>>281383567
>>281383425
You guys forget about just how much Gege hates Gojo

>>281373733
Except that Superman can also be written properly because Westerners are writing for him. Ie, he won’t go around smacking down every villain and every crime because he’s wise enough to understand that these are human beings and human beings must have breathing room to be human. He’ll dutifully get into fights with villains who just want to get street cred for having got a shot in on Superman for the same reason. He COULD be a god, but chooses NOT to be, and will never belittle or humiliate his opponents. JP writers just struggle so hard with this level of characterization, so Gojo will go in act like a smartass and humiliate an opponent, and he’s “good” because he’ll show mercy and not kill a weakling. ONE is probably the best JP has to offer and he sticks to this Japanese cultural value of humility and not standing above anyone else no matter how strong you are, so he gets around the plot by not seeking fights to begin with allowing all the other characters to do their thing. But Gege wrote himself into a hard corner because of a lack of talent, and so had to invent some bullshit banishment prison for Gojo.

>overpowered character who is a master at every skill
>intelligent, nihilistic, with a wicked sense of humor
>still loses in his own way despite being able to solo every other character and is entertaining

>>281383425
But in reality, the final volume of the manga sold so well that JJK was the #1 best seller in Q1 of 2025. With zero chapters released that year. Gojo wasn't in that volume. And like always you Fujos have no idea what is really going on

>>281383936
How did the previous volume do? The one where Gojo was on the cover and contained his fight with Sukuna? Much better than the final volume, right? Fuck off bad faith poster.

>>281384125
Directly refuting your claim is not bad faith posting.

>>281384172
The final volume without Gojo sold less than the previous volume with Gojo. How did you refute my claim you homosexual?

>>281372601 (OP)
the answer is : women

>>281372601 (OP)
At least the fight they had was hype. Yet it's painful to realize the only person that died against this fraud was Gojo.

>>281383793
>Every omnipotent being has to be like Superman or then it has poor writing
You're retarded, the whole shtick with Superman works because of what he is and represents (as in the incarnation of the greatest human values in a vessel that could be considered the farthest from humanity as possible) but Gojo, or any other omnipotent character, doesn't have to be that way. Specially considering how one kid was raised by a nice couple of boomers from Kansas and the other one was raised by a bunch of eugenicists backstabbing freaks that feared him since the day he was born.

>he’s “good” because he’ll show mercy and not kill a weakling.
More than that he's good because he genuinely cares about innocent people and works to make the world a better place, both by working around the clock as a teenager taking out the strongest curses by himself after the Toji incident, and also as an adult literally trying to get rid of the fucked up system the exorcists lived in

He's a smug piece of shit but one that always does the right thing

>>281384229
You desperately wish for the series to tank. Reality refutes your wish as JJK dominates even into 2025.

As to how to deal with Gojo, it could have been a All-Might vs AFO double-KO situation with Sukuna, where both of them survive the battle but have been severely injured and are no longer god-like entities and switch over to being teachers for the next generation.

>>281372971
Gojo vs Sukuna was something that had to happen.

>>281381372
I thought jjk author was very open about being an HxHxir tbf

>>281384229
Not even true. Vol.30 sold over 1 million copies

>>281384466
>JJK dominates even into 2025.
Not him and I don't want JJK "to tank", but right after JJK's final chapter the series was basically instantly forgotten
The chapter was so fucking lame and boring, not bad, just boring, that it instantly fizzled out of the zeitgeist
idk where you get this dominating 2025 from, quite literally nobody talks about it. Not even /a/. Shingeki gets more threads, and that shit was over like 5 years ago, then JJK does which ended last year

>>281372601 (OP)
>badass
you mean aura farming edgelord
>well written, worth investing in.
read more books, nigga
He literally bornt with godlike power, did nothing about it and jobs whenever it matters (twice)

Black Flash was one of the most retarded concepts ever created.

>>281386622
Why. I get thinking the execution is bad, but the concept of irl critical hits happening due to the flow of energy or something sometimes going bonkers / being able to draw more power while "in the zone" is a nice justification to add spice to fights.

However it being just 120% the strength of a normal punch doesn't make any sense. They depict it like a freaking meteor punch with conqueror's haki and everybody freaks out when one happens, and you tell me it's just x1.2? Should be at least x2, realistically it looks like x5, and frankly no numbers should be even given at all, just say it's a really strong burst of energy, I don't need to know how much stronger the Rasengan compared to a punch.

>>281372752
you wish

>>281386792
It's to the power of 2.5, which is a fuck ton more than x2 or x5

>>281386926
I don't know where tf I got the 1.2 number from, but I like this so much more. I can't believe I only learned it a year after it ended, I always felt
>Wtf that's too powerful, it can't possibly be such a little multiplier
To the power of 2.5 absolutely matches what was on screen, it's a finisher

>>281386459
It's from the 1st place Oricon sales in 2025 without a single chapter released. Thats dominant.
All you have is newfag cope based on the inability to understand that threads die down when new content isn't being released. Which isn't just newfag ignorance but an inability to follow basic logic.

>the series ended and people dont talk about the series anymore
>this mean it's bad
What a dumb argument. Im genuinely surprised so many people use this as a metric.

>>281380957
RC is the edge fanfic version of a manga from another dimension.

>>281380789
Sukuna wasn't clearly the main antagonist at that point because Kenjaku was still in play.
Either could have been the final villain and Kenjaku arguably had stronger build up while Sukuna's entire arc even to the end was just, "I'm an asshole who likes hurting people and no one can stop me".

>>281383177
>Yuji never won on his own.
Who gives a single shit? He always fought people much stronger then him. There is nothing wrong with actual teamwork.
>nonsense
Yes, he did influence the plot with his actions.
You can't handle shounen. Isekai is more your speed.

>>281382550
Sukuna did lose power. He couldn't
-Domain Expansion
-World Cutting Slash is preventable now
-RCT
Sukuna became stronger during the fight and Gojo nerfed him. The team can not have fought him without these nerfs. JJK did do what you are asking for.

>>281389389
-no 10 Shadows either.
I know the other anon already said that.

>>281386622
I thought they were good. Its a nice thing for the MC to excel at too.

>>281382187
WELL how do you want him to do anything when Gege fucking despises him and wants to shill his pet self insert Yuta, he never got over he got forced to replace Yuta with Yuji cuz his editor called Yuta boring

>>281389626
That's not true. Yuta's story was over in the oneshot and Gege has stated he knew he didn't want Yuta for the new MC.
That's on top of making Yuji such a great MC

>>281387020
Comes from this.
Basically it was just anotherway of saying that you get into the zone after you hit a black flash.
Not sure what gege's obsession is with these specific numbers since these multipliers mean nothing to us beyond you do big dick damage with a black flash and it gets you in the zone

>>281389700
thats just usual gege lying

>>281387020
Comes from this.
Basically it was just another way of saying that you get into the zone after you hit a black flash.
Not sure what gege's obsession is with these specific numbers since these multipliers mean nothing to us beyond you do big dick damage with a black flash and it gets you in the zone

>>281389736
It seems like simple logic. Mangaka don't make one-shots knowing they'll get published and Yuta's one-shot ended Yuta's arc as well as leaving him at the top of the verse power wise.

>>281389389
>>281389441
What cope is this? Gojo accomplished nothing. He died like a bitch for no reason and then a bunch of weak cucks came in and took the W.

>>281390382
He literally didn't but I guess your shitty bait is more important.

>>281390382
and a buzzword, copetard to you my good sar

>>281372601 (OP)
Author hates him

>>281372601 (OP)
you only like him cause you wanna fuck him anon
he was a boring win button that died
all jjk is bits of other animes and gay hand to hand slop

>>281375663
aura (wanting to have sex with him)

>>281392341
>gay hand to hand slop
I've never read anything so pathetic. I genuinely pity you for being so tasteless.

GETSUGAAAAA

>>281393396
TENSHO?

>>281388927
>Sukuna wasn't clearly the main antagonist at that point because Kenjaku was still in play.
You are a complete buffoon. Sukuna was the first villain, and defeating him for good is the plot of the entire manga. Kenjaku is a secondary villain related to the Cursed Spirit arc, but seeking Sukuna's fingers to fully incarnate and then kill him was the primary goal. That's why the manga ends with one of Sukuna's fingers entombed as a good luck charm, he's been bested forever so now it's not an evil artifact anymore.

>>281393487
Yes. The manga begins and ends with Sukuna's Finger in that talisman box

I know he's a shit character because strictly only insufferable zoomies identify and larp as him

>>281389389
Honestly the biggest accomplishment was Gojo eliminating Mahoraga. That fuckin summon is almost as strong as Sukuna himself, Sukuna had to use his baryonic furnace technique to obliterate Mahoraga before, his strongest attack. Just preventing Sukuna from using that gave everyone else a fighting chance against him.

>>281389389
Gojo took care of taking out Sukuna's techniques for killing him specifically.. So it's a nerf that doesn't matter very much, 10 shadows and world cut were to kill him.
I don't think Sukuna would have used 10s against Yuji and the others, it's probably beneath him. It was just a way to learn to bypass infinity.

>>281393750
Techniques that kill Gojo can also kill anyone on the good guy side. Its obvious that it matters.

>>281372601 (OP)
It was our lesson to not be such superficial fuckbrains.

>>281372763
Humiliation makes it better though.

>>281375663
I used to think like you until I realized that Gojo does have depth. His DE even reflects a big flaw of him.as a person.
Gege did the overpowered character trope justice with him.

>>281383425
I respect Gege for not milking Gojo. He served his purpose and went out like a badass.
Fangirls can suck it.

>>281372601 (OP)
Can someone remind me why he wears the blindfold? I mean I know his powers are in his eyes, but why does that make the blindfold necessary?

>>281394713
It's to reduce his cursed energy usage. His Six Eyes ability is always on, refining his cursed energy output, so if he didn't wear a blindfold/sunglasses he'd be going full throttle all the time and he'd wear himself out.

>>281372601 (OP)
Gojo and Sukuna are the most important parts of the series but they are just there to be strong with very rare moments of actual writing.

>>281372601 (OP)
>99% of the manga is him being awesome and being glazed by evey single character
>gets one of the best fight in the series where he dunks on the big bad for most of it
>dies tragically by the end
What more do people fucking want?

>>281372601 (OP)
>badass character worth investing in
How do you think I know you're a third worlder?

>>281373873
No.
the writin in the latter half was stupid as fuck, full of unnecessary, idiotic twists.

If Gojo was so powerfull (and popular) you had to remove him from the game so the other characters can shine - well, the box did the job. What was the point of brining him back?

There was nothing satisfying about the resolution either. Sekuna just gets the exact power he needs in a most convoluted way. The fight didn't make any sense whatsoever.

Mahagora can now suddenly can re-adapt after adapating. Sekuan can just copy everything after seeing it once. Mahagora just happens to adapat in a perfect way which Sekuan copies perfectly.
Evne hte fight before was full of stupid WTF moments, like Gojo punching inot Sekuna chest and KO's ing him, then instead of pummeling him he jumps back, before charging in again, to give Mahagora time to come in.

Then you have Gojo pulling up that anti-domain technique out of his ass.

It was just a big dissapointment. Asspulls.

>>281381147
What narrative/themes?

You are just defending shit writing here.

>>281373567
>JJK doesn't have characters, it has action figures
Literally carried by the Juju Strolls - the only thing casuals who don't do heavy action will remember fondly (re: treated like Gintama) from this other than Kento SalaryZaddy.

>>281393487
And if Sukuna was wiped out by a side character like Kenjaku was, then you could have justified it all the opposite way, where Kenjaku's puppet master role throughout the storyline justified his place as the final big bad.

>>281394756
Sunglasses don't seem as effective as a blindfold in covering your vision. He probably just wears them to look cool.

>>281374460
Gege made it obvious. IIRC, he stated it specifically.
It's very much obvious who his favorites are (Maki and the awful loli ghost fucker whos name I can't even remember) and whom he doesn't like.

the problem isn't that Gojo dies, the problem is it is done poorly and full of asspuls from both Gojo and (much more from) Sekuna.
There was never any need to release Gojo from the prison.

>>281392341
Why do you project your gayness onto others?
Why does everything have to be about homolust to you?

Is there any male characte that you like? (NOTE: lf you mention any, it menas you are gay for them)

>>281398375
He clearly released Gojo from prison so he can wank Sukuna.

>>281383857
>still loses in his own way
I mean, he did get to Duck his original self in the end. Doesn’t get much better than that.

>>281383793
It’s so weird to me secondaries call a character like Superman “omnipotent” when he repeatedly and on-panel gets dogpiled by more militant Kryptonians (like Zod’s crew) before using gadgets or other means to outwit them, has to brawl with guys like the Eradicator who are close to his super-strength and with Metallo whose whole thing is having a body made of Kryptonite, outright died fighting Doomsday the first time around who won through sheer brute strength, gets repeatedly fucked over by magic in general, and has to outwith 5D imps because they’re actual reality warpers.

>>281395296
>99% of the manga is him being awesome
How? He’s absent for a majority of the Manga. And when he does appear he loses two major fights back to back.

>>281389763
The numbers are probably all cultural references. For example 120% seems to be slang for something being absolutely certain.

>>281372601 (OP)
We have Kakashi at home

>>281372601 (OP)
>the chad hokage kakashi vs the dead gojo

>>281394756
How does he see with the blindfold on?
And why not just wear the sunglasses or is
>>281398108 correct?

Gojo dying would be fine if not for the author going I HATE GOJO so now his death will forever have an asterisk over it that makes you wonder if it was a genuine and honest narrative choice or something he did out of sheer butthurt.
It's not like OP mentor character dying is something new, anti-climax deaths are normal as well, but how many times have you heard that the author did so out of butthurt because they disliked the character who also was the most popular character of them all?
That's the real issue here.

>>281394756
>>281398910
Actually why not just keep his eyes closed? Can he can somehow see through the blindfold but not his eyelids? I guess seeing though your eyelids would make it really difficult to sleep.

>>281398954
Because then the design is not as cool.

>>281372601 (OP)
Not as bad as some other shounen manga
>Mfw the Kishi and Ikemoto made a prominent character a prodigy as a one-off joke then probably forgot they did that.

>>281398927
This. Gege is a spiteful retard who tanked his entire story due to spite.

>>281372731
frnocapping

>>281372601 (OP)
>For the first time in a decade, they finally created a badass character worth investing in.
pic unrelated

>>281400608
Can (you) name better badass characters worth investing in?

>>281372601 (OP)
>jobber man
this guy is infuriating
hes hyped up every time he shows up as some super strong character and ... loses every single fucking fight
just really bad writing, complete disconnect between what is told and what is shown

>>281401127
He can be the strongest and lose a bunch of times. This isn't dragon ball kiddo.

>>281381111
>Incorrect. Since you have paused any sort of actual movement on the story until the OP character is freed.
bullshit, it just pauses dragon ball powering up every chapter
what should happen next is that the plot develops but scale stays the same, the endless escalation of scope is one of biggest problem in manga, manga version of feature creep in software development

>>281398927
That's just your headcanon though. Think reasonably

>>281401186
>He can be the strongest and lose a bunch of times.
Fuck that even means? If he loses then hes not the strongest.
Also if he jobs every fucking encounter what is there even to subvert, there is no pay off, only disappointment.

Fucking most mangakas wouldnt know how to string together a coherent narrative even if their life depended on it ... which it does, their financial life and career, and most fumble it.

>>281401381
>Fuck that even means? If he loses then hes not the strongest.
He lost round 1 to Toji because he had a plan and prep time against a tired inexperienced Gojo. If Toji simply challenged Gojo in a 1v1 combat he would lose.
Gojo no diffs Jogo, Hanami and would all curses as well as Kenjaku. So Kenjaku makes a plan to use hostages and his emotional attachement to Geto in order to seal him away, because Kenjaku has no means of defeating Gojo.
Only Sukuna manages to kill post awakening Gojo because he's even stronger.

Do you understand what I'm getting at?

>>281401555
>Do you understand what I'm getting at?
Yeah, that you cant pull a single argument out of your ass thats not just fanwank and baseless speculations.
Is that some cope pasta or something?
Either way Gojo was wasted and another victim of shitty "subversive" writing, where the only subversion is that the manga somehow keeps getting worse. Still not as bad to what they did to Eren in Aot, but man, its up there.

>>281389700
>>281390037
Gege literally admitted Yuji was his editor's idea, even Black Flash was the latter's idea. What the fuck are you on about?

>>281401728
>No counterpoints
>Cowardly dismissal
>Ad hominem
>Shifting topics

You are a fraud. You have one more chance to give me a proper reply.

>>281401381
retard

>>281374294
The problem is that Gojo fans only cared about Gojo and only wanted the manga to be Gojo wank fest

>>281398927
You wouldn't give a shit if he looked ugly. Notice how nobody cared about kenjaku being offed by an asspull character

>>281388927
You say this but Kenjaku has Gojo's friend body yet Gojo fans would hate Gojo vs Kenjaku and would still choose Gojo vs Sukuna. Gojo fans just want him to be the mc and want to steal Sukuna from Yuji

>JJK world is grim and dark
>Character gets a grim and dark death
Whoa, shocking. Subversive even. People die when they are fighting to death.

>>281401127
Yea, it’s really strange. He gets humiliated by Tojo (even tho he wins because of a weird asspull), Kenjaku outsmarts him very easily, and Sukuna defeats him offscreen while holding back.

How they can take Gojo’s powers and make him a jobber is beyond me. And Gojo’s popularity doesn’t come from jobbing, like say someone like Vegeta who got a bigger fanbase because he was the underdog that lost constantly. But Gege gave Gojo humiliating loss over and over so the fanbase can stop glazing him.

>>281402375
You don't get it gege needed to show Gojo's death in all detail completely missing the point of showing someone already dead. We also didn't see Toji's body being destroyed little by little

>>281401756
I'm talking about reality. As you see in my pic, Yuta was never the MC of JJK. It was drafted for Megumi and then finalized as Yuji.

Now I will also explain to you the pic you posted. It does not say anything about Yuji and the editor. It says Yuta would complicate the story telling if he was introduced at the start.

>>281373117
Manga literally sold more after his death

>>281402518
Nta but you can see Megumi looked like Yuta in jjk0, the based editor saw thought that and gave us superior yuji, then gege fired him and brought his boring Yuta Stu and maki sue back

This is now a Sukuna thread. Behave or get cleaved.

>>281402354
Gojo could fight Sukuna and Kenjaku could still be the final villain.
Sukuna was basically crippled at the end of the fight with Gojo, and there's no reason the opposite wouldn't also be allowable.
Gojo kills Sukuna, but is in no shape to fight Kenjaku afterwards.
Then Yuji and friends fight Kenjaku.

As is, Kenjaku gets a (very good) gimmick fight and then is all but off-screened by a side character.
Which for his importance is really underwhelming.

>>281402297
People hated that going to Yuuta.
But if Kenjaku's death is 80% terrible, Gojo's is 90% terrible, so it gets a bigger focus.

>>281402610
But actually Megumi looked like Megumi and had horns in the draft. And like I just posted Yuta was never the MC of JJK

>>281402518
JJK0 was probably going to originally be treated as just a beta for the full serialization as OG Megumi and Yuta are very similar.
Being denied the ability to straight up replace Yuta with OG Megumi, he brought Yuta back later as a secondary protagonist that fell into a different role than New Megumi.

>>281402625
What angers me so much is that there were a million ways to do a better JJK ending more fulfilling for the readers, even if standard.
The meat for something amazing was there and then Gege decided to microwave it. Likewise have Gojo be the one that "kills" Megukuna, causing the revive to automatically happen and then he dies (perhaps surprised because Sukuna was supposed to be already dead).
That way we could say Gojo beat Sukuna, but Sukuna won the fight by getting a Bleach resurrection (hell, write it so Sukuna didn't know his true form would awaken by having Megumi's body killed).

Later we can get the asspull of Megumi's soul still being inside so he can be somehow rescued by Yuji.
Or have Gojo be the one that separated Megumi and Sukuna HE ASKED FOR 1 MONTH OF PREPARATION and he's the most resourceful sorcerer in the entire world, let it be so he was looking for a way to save his student. Gojo dying but saving the life of his student / adopted son would have been a good farewell and we'd forever argue
>He might have won but he didn't want to kill them both
Then we could more easily transition into Megumi & Yuji fighting Sukuna instead of the infinite peanut gallery. Perhaps at the start have Megumi be KO'd, but once he awakens and Nobara arrives we get the Protagonist Trio vs Final Villain instead of it being just 1 chapter

>>281402625
>>281402916
Wait I ended up writing something completely different. Yeah Kenjaku. He was my "guarantee" that Gojo vs Sukuna wasn't set in stone, because regardless of that fight, we had the Kenjaku / Yuji's parents / Tengen as a big godzilla final boss plots.
Anything could happen with Sukuna and Gege would still have enemies left for a satisfying climax. Likewise even if Sukuna kill Gojo, he could be left laying on the floor unable to move, and Kenjaku would use him for his own purposes so thematically Gojo and Sukuna would pretty much draw (later you can have something like Sukuna's pride letting him control the Tengen from the inside or something)

>>281402610
It's weird. You clearly don't like the idea, so why go to such lengths to make stuff up to believe it.
Here is the draft for proto-JJK. Proto-Megumi doesn't look like Yuta at all.

>>281402610
Oops. Here pic.
Like in my previous

>>281403069
This megumi looks like megumi, what the fuck are you on about.

>>281403020
Fuck your Gojo cult mentality, yuji vs Sukuna was predicted

>>281402916
>Likewise have Gojo be the one that "kills" Megukuna, causing the revive to automatically happen and then he dies (perhaps surprised because Sukuna was supposed to be already dead).
That misses the point, though. The point is that Sukuna is a mad genius and better at sorcery because he's a monster. I don't understand how wanking Gojo into a more ambiguous defeat improves anything for anyone other than Gojosisters (I'm sorry -- "Women of Gojo.") You can take issue with how the fight itself unfolds as a Kubo-tier asspull tennis match, but Sukuna being the final threat and Gojo getting sashimi'd was a natural direction for the story, even thematically.

what is your opinion on Frauds like Fraudkuna the greatest Fraud in all of history?

>>281405546
He is the king of curses and sorcerers are con artists
Even Gojo tried a triple attack on Sukuna first

>>281386459
People are leaving internet or going to their own spaces now. You see Kingdom being popular but barely being talked about here

>>281379083
Gojosisters used their periods to voodo'd him to resurrect
Not fucking kidding

so why did Gege wrote one of the best chemistry between a male and female characters with Yuji and Nobara and did absolutely nothing with them but gave Yuta a bunch of kids with Maki in the ending?

>>281406702
Yuji got the cute fat girl, he wonned hard

>>281403020
>Tengen as a big godzilla final boss plots.
Never was gonna happen, it meant destroying japan.
On one part I liked that for once an assassination worked, but on the other I disliked how he never did anything with Yuji.

>>281406702
Amazing chemistry! I'm sure they end up together.

>>281408177
to be honest i knew they would never end up together if they had good chemistry, nip writers legit CANNOT write romance

>>281408011
Totally agree. The merger was a bomb to stop, not a monster to fight. An assassination actually working does have it's pros. And I also wish Kenjaku and Yuji had some kind of confrontation on Yuji's origins

Bankai.

Senbonzakura Kageyoshi.

>>281373733
>>281374294
goofy ahh

>>281408214
Yea, that's why I decided long ago to just headcanon the relationships after the end

>>281408177
No, yuji gets shipped with the ex fat girl

One of the best protagonists of all time.
No bullshit. Hard worker. Doesn't steal the spotlight. Underdog. Cute.

>>281386829
>every thread dies with 20 posts
kek

>>281383857
Onore...

>>281409336
Gojo mogs. No one would have read or watched this series without him.

>>281409336
meh, atleast it's not Deku/Erin

>>281409168
I've decided he and Nobara get together later because I have a soft spot for Tsundere

>>281409605
BASED

>>281372601 (OP)
Died a virgin

>>281408177
Yuji will fuck the obese girl

>>281409336
Every Yuji scene is a good scene

I want to love JJK but I just can't. The ending so rushed that we don't even get to learn Yuji's DE's name and the lack of worldbuilding just makes me want to forget the series.

>>281402518
He definitely wanted Yuta as the MC.

>>281409336
Yuji is my goat, forever and ever.
He's such an endearing character while also being relatable. I will miss him.

>>281394713
His eyes perceive more information than normal.
He wears the blindfold to block out regular visual information, which lowers the strain on his brain that processing the incoming information creates.

>>281411930
pic reminds me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJLZS4l0RRs

>>281402297
>If character was different thing... then you wouldn't like character anymore!
Yeah, no shit Sherlock.
And who gives a shit about anime hotness? 99% of anime characters are good looking because that's how the medium works to begin with.

>>281372601 (OP)
>I’m way late on this
Lmao, whatever you say Gojokek

>>281372601 (OP)
>For the first time in a decade
The fuck

>>281373567
People who watch that seventh prince show are actually evil, their cocks should be cut off and then they should be killed.

>>281389358

Yuji is literally Shonen MC #4.

He trained once, then continued to get all his powers off screen by having people train in his body. Then they made him a nepo baby so he would be strong enough to contend with the future characters who actually train

he doesn't even bring any unique moments to any of the arcs. All his 'iconic' scenes are just him watching Mahito kill someone 3 different times.

he's an extremely boring character (way worse than Deku) and it's funny when fans call him a boxer, cause that just shows he added nothing to the series but punching

>>281414921
>training nepotism baby
Yuji is an actual underdog who is actually at a disadvantage against his opponents. Its the opposite of typical shonen where they draw you in with the concept of a hard worker that has to think through their fights but in reality was always a god king. In JJK, they don't lie with the premise, Yuji was always special but still the underdog who had to earn all his wins.

His iconic scenes are things like "Damn that hurt", "Yea I did that. I'm not going to deny it" and walking through a wall of Dismantles.

But you think using Kungfu is somehow an insult instead of being the dopest shit. I can't relate to such feminine thinking and I won't be able to convince you or help you. I'm sorry

>>281372763
I'm not mad that he died, in fact, it was obvious that it would happen.

I'm mad that it was off panel, by some shitty wannabe HxH rules and that the first thing Gojo did after dying was sucking Sukuna's duck.

>>281416925

>Yuji was always special but still the underdog who had to earn all his wins

>using Kungfu is somehow an insult instead of being the dopest shit

every shonen mc is an underdog who uses martial arts to beat a stronger opponent retard. you just proved my point that he added nothing but punching

>>281417311
No, I am just not letting you get away with unironically complaining about kungfu. Its too pathetic. Too embarassing to take seriously.
That's why I said I was sorry. Its not possible to help you. Let alone see more to the character.

>>281417311
>every shonen mc is an underdog
No. Thats the point. The story says they are an underdog. Thats part of the hook. But then they turn out to be the chosen one the entire time. That's where the stereotyps comes from

>>281372601 (OP)
I see so many people say that Gege hated him, when it always seemed obvious to me that he just hated the fans/popularity he garnered. Gege had space autism and no other character embodied that better than Gojo. When you look back at everything, Gojo is actually one of the very few characters that Gege treated well and gave full closure on his character arc from beginning to end. I don't think any other JJK character was actually given the time of day as much as him in retrospect. I'm not even particularly biased to the guy, when Sukuna and Maki were my favorites.

>>281411477
>Yuji's DE's name
I just call it the Benevolent Shrine

>>281382550
Sukuna lost a lot in fighting Gojo. The problem was the fact that Gege didn't really make that obvious right off the bat, only drip-feeding the consequences of their fight throughout the final battle in small doses, so you couldn't really get a grasp of it until way later. Didn't help that Uraume kept glazing him with his nonsense of "Sukuna-sama still hasn't gone all-out" which turned out to be a load of BS in the end.

It was less that Sukuna was "holding back" since that never really mattered, rather Sukuna just employed whatever strategy he thought was most fitting against specific opponents like he did with Gojo.

>>281395296
A death that isn't written like dogshit would be a good place to start. JJK was already falling apart with contrivances by that point, but literally off screening the asspull that was WCS combined with a chapter where Gojo glazes the psychopath who killed him while expressing zero concern for his students, and all his dead friends shit on him really just puts a sour taste in the mouth.
He was always going to lose, and probably die doing so, but there are so many better ways to make it happen. Doesn't help that the manga proceeded to drop the pretense of decent writing after that entirely.

>>281418586
I honestly think Gege just has a weird boner for fights ending offscreen. He did it enough times by the end that it wasn't just exclusive to Gojo's fight.

>>281386324
No, it did not. If anything leaving the comparison between the two characters in the air would've made the manga's impact even more long-lasting on account of debating the powerwank alone. An endless version of the kind of discussions, shitposts and memes we had during the weekly manga leaks.

Imagine Asuka vs Rei but for homosexuals

>>281418618
It's just one of many things that piled up to make 236 so controversial.

>>281372971
It was interesting seeing an author have his strongest character (at the time) throw his weight around. But I honestly think temporarily boxing Gojo was a sign of weakness in Gege's writing showing that he couldn't think of a way to write the story unless he benched him. So I'd have to disagree on that point.

If anything, Gojo vs Sukuna ending up being one of the best (if not the best) fights in the series salvaged that, but it also exposes said weakness in the writing when Sukuna was going to beat him anyway when all was said and done.

>>281417311
Wait a fucking second. I already did give examples of his iconic scenes. These aren't about punching. God dammit this is why talking to haters is such a waste of time. I have to explain the manga they didn't read and then they don't read my posts either!
>His iconic scenes are things like "Damn that hurt", "Yea I did that. I'm not going to deny it" and walking through a wall of Dismantles.

>>281418226
It's "Jujutsu Kaisen: End"
I'm sure

>>281418020
>>281418975

Where was I complaining about kung-fu schizo? Yuji's character isn't kungfu just because Gege referenced moves in certain panels; that's a normal practice. every shonen protag uses karate,judo,etc. it's apart of the genre.

if you genuinely think thats Yuji's specialty when he doesnt even mention it by name, you're struggling to find depth where there isn't any

>I already did give examples of his iconic scenes. These aren't about punching.

wow! aura! hype moments! so iconic! one page being spammed on your reddit feed doesn't mean the character isn't just a shittier pink naruto

>>281418062

how is that not yuji? he started with no origin then near the end was revealed to be related to kenjaku/sukuna so he could get stronger faster without training

>>281419034
Kino

>>281401311
Author is on record on saying that though? The hell is headcanon about that?

>>281419282
You'd have to read it to get it. You tried to insult Yuji as a character by saying he brought punching. Like, I said, waste of time.

>>281419282
In the manga Jujutsu Kaisen, Yuji was always special from the beginning. Yet in his battles he was always the underdog.
Yuji's relation to Kenjaku is not why he got stronger with the training that he did. And like I was saying, he was always strong, always special. The series doesn't try to play him as the underdog but he is anyway as he fights people much stronger then he is.

>>281411825
He always knew he needed a new character for the MC

>>281372601 (OP)
Just gay kakashi

>>281398927
>>281419416
Nta, but if Gege really hated Gojo, why did he keep mentioning him and including him in flashbacks post his cubing and slicing?
Not to mention Gojo is also one of the most fleshed out character.
It just doesn't add up.

>>281419642
See >>281418193

I don't think he really hated him, just hated how he blew up in popularity. Happens all the time, even /here/.

>>281419642
that makes sense

>>281419683
Sounds about right. Gojeets were insufferable.

>>281398631
Not even close

>>281372601 (OP)
I've only read up to the later half of the Shibuya arc before dropping it, but I do know he gets killed by Sukuna, I just wonder why anyone is surprised by this? He's the teacher in a battle shonen fighting the main bad guy, he can't exactly win, and the master dying to the main threat for the student to come in and win is a classic trope. I can't imagine people expected more from JJK and Gege's writing.

>>281420696
Gojo beating Sukuna would be getting "less" for the record.

>>281372601 (OP)
this looks so fucking gay

>>281420949
There's a reason everyone hates Mappa. None of it is canon

>>281372752
spbp

>>281419642
This

>>281418729
>Controversial
Only for gojeets. The problem with Gojo is that he is a webtoon tier character alas solo leveling, so if he loses his fans cry because he can only be good if he wins, in the end the fans admit Gojo is just a tool.
Hell anyone watching the anime without interacting with the fandom will see Gojo barely appears nor interact much with the characters, he has more headcanons than character thanks to fujos, just because he looks good, or else they would be praising almighty because he actually interacts with his students a lot but he is ugly so

>>281386324
>Gojofags constantly downplay Sukuna and say he is shit
>Still they can't live without Gojo fighting Sukuna
Maybe Gojo should have had his own nemesis

>>281418786
Sukuna needed to be defeated by Yuji and Megumi. He has nothing in common with Gojo, while Sukuna has been ruining the other 2 kids lives. Don't drag Sukuna down to your Gary stu character

>>281422957
I'm a cogchad though.

>>281422986
No you are not, you never wanted yuji vs Sukuna and you were mad Yuji got some spotlight later

>>281422996
K

>>281409605
nobara wasn't tsun though, if anything she was direct to a fault

>>281372601 (OP)
I found him too overrated, if anything I liked the villains more and wanted a Sukuna, Uraume and Kenjaku spin off (and milf Tengen)
>>281422968
That's one of my problems. Even the movie arc is overrated, I liked Toji a lot more and Geto can shine on his own, I wanted to see more with his "daughters".
They complain about Gojo being killed but he really doesn't add much to the story anyway, hell, if anything I wanted Toji to live to have a better confrontation with Megumi and the Zenin clan

>>281372731
for real

>>281418433
The payoff for Uraume talking up Sukuna just being cutting back to him going
>Guess I'll die
was so fucking funny, JJK is one of the greatest (unintentional) comedies of the decade

>>281408824
making up your own headcanon is objectively the correct way to read jjk

>>281423052
Yep. Uraume unceremoniously killing himself in the end after all that talk felt like some retarded punchline.

>>281372601 (OP)
>Tfw leakers hid the Sukuna pages and people liked the Sukuna epilogue pages more than Gojo
Haha....

>>281372601 (OP)
the author simply doesn't like him
and sukuna is more badass

>>281423120
He is still a goofable bastard, also his VA is great. He still chose to die instead of being saved by yuji
He will likely reincarnate as some fat neet bastard though

>>281422968
What the fuck are you even on about? I never once implied that Gojo had to defeat Sukuna.
>Don't drag Sukuna down to your Gary stu character
Except Sukuna is my favorite character. You're reading too much into shit that you're starting to argue with phantoms in your own head anon.

>>281423140
The author clearly likes Sukuna, Yuta and Maki the most. Kinda funny since Gojo gets beaten in
>Muh father/teacher figure
Geto, Nanami and even Sukuna clears. Todo was also a better teacher
>Rival
Yuji shitting on Sukuna was funnier
>Arc
Maki has a longer arc than Gojo and people don't care because she is a woman, give that clan arc plus twin sacrificing to Gojo and fans would be creaming
>Ending
Gojo remains dead while Sukuna may reincarnate in the future
>Le funeral
Not even nanami nor choso got a funeral. Yuji even mourned fucking Sukuna more
>Shipping
Yuta creamed inside Maki over and over, he is Gojo's head now, the smartest and his bloodline continues while Gojo chose the martyr cuck way

>>281372601 (OP)
The obnoxious fandom ruined this character

>>281423178
Agreed, I still like him but much less than before.

>>281398927
>lol look at all these letters begging me not to kill Vegeta
>it only makes me want to kill him harder
>he is gonna get humiliated, will start crying and beg for the MC to do what he couldn't before dying like a bitch
>WHAT THE FUCK HIS FANS LOVED IT??

>>281423162
>>Muh father/teacher figure
>Geto, Nanami and even Sukuna clears. Todo was also a better teacher

This one is highly debatable. Characters keep saying he is a bad teacher, but his method clearly works great on Yuji.


>>281383793
Superman is not a good character. Never was.

>>281386548
There isn't a single character in fiction you cannot shit on if you want to.
What matters is that Gojo had presence. He dominated every scene has was in. He was memorable.

>>281418433
I mean didn't Sukuna beat Maki the chapter literally after Uraume said "He hasn't gone all out"

>>281401381
Just how stupid can you be?
Do you even understand the words and concepts you are typing?

>>281418729
>>281418618
>>281418586
The issue is that once WCS existed it was over for Gojo despite people glaze he was never gonna win an entire fight without ever being hit by a slash one the slahed could get past infinity.

And you cannot do something like "Ooh last second clash lets see who survives" because Gege didn't want people to think Gojo could actually have won once the fight was over.

>>281402253
Is that what you tell yourself?

Will you actually try to have an honest dicussion or will you continue to fight windmills that only exist in your head?

Claiming intimate knowledge of what other people think/feel is beyond retarded.

I never really interacted with the fandom a lot, but I heard two friends arguing about it and one mentioned "the writer just hated him" after he was killed in the manga
I ended up watching the anime and reading the manga much later and I disagree

I agree the end of the manga was not very good (I really did not care much after shibuya) but I felt like Gojo as a character was done with major care. The backstory arc with him and Geto simply could not exist if the writer hated him as a character imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ03_dSEYtM

>>281402916
I coukld write an entire LONG list of everything what was wrong in the last chapters of JJK.

Idiotic writing, idiotic asspulls, wasting characters, unsatisfying conclusions. The stupid nature of Gojos death is just one item on the list.

>>281372601 (OP)
every gay faggots favorite character

>>281420195
>They hated him because he was popular

Always the same shit, isn't it? I you like character A, but character B is FAR more popular, you start to hate them. Same for games or everything else really. We humans are emotional, petty little things, aren't we?

>>281423484
You forget to put time into that perspective and when each part was written. It is perfectly possible to grow to hate something you liked.

>>281423322
Vegeta is better than Gojo though

>>281423387
No, your old vagina being horny =/= good character

>>281423600
And people overanalyze Gojo because they like his design. Literally that's it.

>>281372601 (OP)
Sukuns vs Gojo is easily the single greatest animanga moment in the past decade since Goku vs Jiren. Nothing even competes.

I'm glad Sukuns vs Gojo happened. The hype, the emotions, the memes, the discussions, the infighting of the fanbase...everything was phenomenal regardless of your opinion of the ending.

>>281372601 (OP)
Gege can't write to save his life, that's what happened. So many plot threads were left to rot it's unbelievable, even the seemingly main goal of act 3 was completely forgotten (getting rid of CE vs optimizing it).

>>281372601 (OP)
Gojo felt aimless in writing. He's super strong but didn't get much to do early because if he ever got the chance to actually do anything, he'd just solve everything by himself. Wrote himself into a corner.

>>281423747
Please, don't project. Just because your line of reasoning is shallow doesn't mean everyone elses is.

If you are incapable of thinking with anything but your dick, don't assume everyone else is equally as pathetic. According to you, it's impoosible to like any male character as that makes you gay. Get your head out of your own asshole, for once.

And no, the argument of "you wouldn't like him if he was different" is retarded. A non-argument really. You can say that about every character that ever existed and it's a pointless what-if.

>>281423811
Perhaps. The opposite holds true as well.

There a whole nother leyer of a writer/artist not doing a good job of conveying what he planned. Plenty of cases of writer wanting one thing, but ending up with a opposite effect. Or you could have a character state something about character B as a fact (example: he is stupid), but the show/managa never actually shows it or shows/implies the exact opposite (character ends up being smartest in the room 9 times out of 10).

I was a Yuki fan before I was a Gojo fan. I take comfort in knowing that the really popular character got fucked over too and not just the lesser ones.

>>281419642
Because the nigger made money.
You really think any editor or suit was gonna let him do anything to their cash cow in the early-middle of the story or delete him forever even after death that clearly was only allowed to happen since the manga was ending soon?

>>281382550
Sukuna lost:
> Half his CE
> CE Output
> Some of his RCT
> Domain Exapansion
> Ten Shadows
> World Cutting Slash now has way more setup, allowing the remaining crew to see it coming and prevent it

>>281386792
The strength of the strike itself is exponential (to the power of 2.5), and then AFTERWARDS your strength (CE, output, recovery etc) gets boosted to 120%. I also think it stacks with any subsequent Black Flashes.

>>281372601 (OP)
>>281423951
>>281424013
What Gege did in JJK was not an outstanding story or world-building, but staging an anime equivalent of a big MMA fight and monkey brain hype that's it. JJK will always be remembered with THAT fight, not otherwise.

>>281393659
Mahoraga isn't almost as strong as Sukuna himself. Mahoraga by itself is only around as strong as the 3 Finger Sukuna from the Detention Center (Sukuna says it might have been able to beat him back then).

Sukuna only needed Domain and Furnace cos he played around a bit (with Dismantle) at the start and got unlucky that Mahorago adapted to the concept of slashes in general rather than just Dismantle. Under normal circumstances (no prior adaptations) Sukuna at 16 Fingers or higher can oneshot Mahoraga with just Cleave.

>>281418433
Sukuna WAS holding back, but by the time he realized he had to actually lock in against the Jujutsu High crew it was too late as Yuji landed too many soul punches that crippled his output.

>>281401555
>>281401127
>>281401186
>He can be the strongest and lose a bunch of times. This isn't dragon ball kiddo.

>>281426836
He only lost once though. Which, makes Sukuna the strongest, yes. But for the record Gojo only lost once. The two other times was from traps

>>281426584
Wait, I’m confused. I never really understood how Sukuna would struggle against Satoru, but lose to all those cucks. Was he actually holding back in the latter fight? I don’t remember anyone saying that he was.

>>281426349
Gojo was not even the most popular character in the manga for an extremely long time, and the manga sales picked up during the arcs he wasn't present at all, so yes, you are wrong.
I'd like to see proof that Gege ''hated'' Gojo so much that he killed him, which any sane editor wouldn't let happen because that's just a personal reason and not relevant to the story. If you think that's the sole reason he died, it just shows your appalling critical thinking skills.

>>281428460
Sukuna lost a lot from his battle with Gojo and then the team dog piled him and layered more and more debuffs on him until he lost. It was like 15v1
Sukuna wasn't holding back either. He starts the 2nd fight by skewering Choso and then Cleaves off Yuji's torso soon after.

>>281372731
madness

>>281372601 (OP)
He looks rapeable
Fails the test
On scale from kevin nash to arnold he is clearly a kevin nash
Dead (from rape) bitch

>>281372752
Trvke..

JJK has a stronger final stretch than YYH or a lot of battle shonen. I agree it falls apart but there have been much worse.

Yuta won btw

>>281372601 (OP)
I can only truly get involved when I know the author is capable of doing anything to the characters
stories just don't have any stakes nowadays

>>281426349
I haven't read much JJK and just skipped 90% of it, but doesn't Gojo mention constantly that he's going to train the next generation and that people will eventually surpass him?

Isn't him dying to Sukuna and then having him get even stronger and still be beat by the generation he helped train just a classic example of a setup paying off?

>>281434130
>setup paying off
lmao you’re in the wrong thread if you think JJK sets up things that pay off.

>>281434854
>This reply to a post with a direct example of setup and payoff
How embarrassing

>>281423158
>Except Sukuna is my favorite character.
Based
>>281423162
>Sukuna may reincarnate in the future
May that blessed day come soon

why did gege went out of his way to have every character shit on Gojo on the epilogue

>>281434972
Nope

>>281372601 (OP)
He's hot, he's strong, he's above almost everyone yet he loses almost all his fights and doesn't reach any of his goals besides maybe fucking Geto in the ass in the afterlife or the manga would have lasted 5 volumes at most. You should have seen it coming from miles away.

>>281437648
He’s a mentor, hes power wanked, and he is (or was) extremely popular. It’s a unique situation desu, and I thought Gege would’ve been more creative with the character. But nah.

>>281419642
Gege is trying to keep the story as coherent as possible to an autistic degree, simple as. He's established as the strongest sorcerer in-universe from the start and everyone treats him as such. Then new characters keep showing up over and over again and they're treated as very strong but to keep everything coherent they cannot be as strong as Gojo or it would make him and his powers look inconsistent. And since he's famous among sorcerers on top of that it makes sense for everyone to compare him to themselves and others. It's the same reason why there's a whole chapter of the characters replying to 2ch hate posts instead of them mourning their dead allies or trying to move on after Sukuna's death, just to make sure the readers understand that Maki didn't behead Sukuna and stabbed his heart despite being told not to instead because... uuuuh... because!