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Anonymous No.281426625 >>281426641 >>281426681 >>281426720 >>281426721 >>281426931 >>281426956 >>281427339 >>281427759 >>281427988 >>281428162 >>281428231 >>281428242 >>281428247 >>281428487 >>281428524 >>281428588 >>281428619 >>281428735 >>281429447 >>281432211 >>281433394 >>281433457 >>281434077 >>281442779 >>281443482 >>281443922 >>281444160 >>281444236 >>281444424 >>281447155 >>281447424 >>281447714 >>281448604 >>281450460 >>281450666 >>281452807 >>281454013 >>281454049 >>281454098 >>281454167 >>281454529 >>281454718 >>281457162 >>281457360 >>281457739 >>281457810 >>281458729 >>281458823 >>281459209 >>281459232 >>281459240 >>281459975
Is there a genetic or cultural reason why the japanese can't make good ending?
Anonymous No.281426641 >>281426870 >>281452617
>>281426625 (OP)
Is there a genetic or cultural reason why you can't read better manga?
Anonymous No.281426649 >>281426870 >>281452617
They can, you just don't read like the dumb westoid you are.
Anonymous No.281426681 >>281426798
>>281426625 (OP)
You try make a good ending with constant editor meddling.
Anonymous No.281426694 >>281427836 >>281457810
The absolute enslavement to Japanese cultural norms and moral standards (I call it moral law). No matter what, the proper lesson has to be delivered to the audience at the end, and that means conforming with everyone else, not being special, rejecting conflict, living in harmony, and generally being a good low-friction cog. If the story is set in anything like modern-day Japan this law is iron-clad.
Anonymous No.281426720
>>281426625 (OP)
The west stopping them from creating based endings
Anonymous No.281426721
>>281426625 (OP)
They can, but a mangaka usually is starting to hate his the most popular manga and readers too in a long run
Anonymous No.281426798 >>281426817
>>281426681
"Editor meddling" is a cope.
99.99% of editors never even get mentioned because they're doing their job well enough that nobody notices.
Anonymous No.281426817
>>281426798
t. editor
Anonymous No.281426863 >>281426954 >>281458760
i'm so fucking glad Dungeon Meshi didn't shit the bed at the end
soooo fucking glad
Anonymous No.281426870 >>281426956 >>281429447 >>281430047 >>281432672 >>281435054 >>281442983 >>281443458 >>281447455 >>281447834 >>281447908 >>281448512 >>281448585 >>281451004 >>281451840 >>281452224 >>281454711 >>281454797 >>281455045 >>281456261 >>281457069 >>281457157 >>281457361 >>281459337 >>281461444
>>281426641
>>281426649
name 3 good endings
Anonymous No.281426928
Is there a genetic or cultural reason why you refuse to read anything but shonenshit?
Anonymous No.281426931
>>281426625 (OP)
There are both several genetic and many cultural reasons why they can't.
Anonymous No.281426954
>>281426863
maybe women finish better
Anonymous No.281426956
>>281426870
>>281426625 (OP)
Classic Japanese films have good endings, same with their classic novels
Anonymous No.281427005 >>281447621
serialization means you can't change shit you wrote last week

despite that shigurui has the best ending of any work in any medium
Anonymous No.281427339 >>281428647
>>281426625 (OP)
>Read stuff aimed at teenagers
>Read weekly shit where mangaka have to keep making shit up every week to keep the cash flowing
>japanese can't make a good ending
Time for you to grow up buddy
Anonymous No.281427759 >>281428222 >>281428468 >>281433744
>>281426625 (OP)
Any manga with a good ending is generally too short to build up a big fanbase that discusses it on /a/. Almost everything long is being made up as it goes along and they just have to pull an ending out of their ass when they feel like they're done.
Anonymous No.281427836
>>281426694
We get it but it's not the subject here. You had a cool thought that's great, your post was read.
Anonymous No.281427931 >>281429612 >>281434737
>i have a cool story idea
>i'll draw a manga
>i'll become a mangaka with this idea
>yatta i made it i'm a mangaka
>now what should happen next hmmm
Anonymous No.281427988
>>281426625 (OP)
This seems to hit battle shounen especially hard relative to other genres, based on browsing here.

>MHA: Was shit until the idea was expanded, then it was less shit
>Kaiju No.8: Was just meh, status quo upheld
>Vinland Saga: Was simply shit
>SnK: Was shit, then made 2% less shit by the expanded ending
Anonymous No.281428162
>>281426625 (OP)
No it's todo with the way manga is created.
Manga is created through a continuous serialisation based on popularity.
It begins with chapter 1 and goes 1 chapter at a time, if it doesn't remain popular for more than a few weeks, it gets cancelled.
This leads to manga that is extremely start-heavy where the beginning of the manga is very bombastic to catch attention. There is no focus on the end of the series because that doesn't exist. The series will continue indefinitely so long as it remains popular.
Popular manga such as Dragonball, Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, etc, were clearly all meant to end many years ago, but were forced to extend themselves and forgo their original endings. Eventually they decline in popularity and have to end... and the ending they get is one subpar to the original.
Anonymous No.281428222 >>281428468
>>281427759
This, an author to that moment fucks up the plot by endless asspull baits so it's almost impossible to make something descent
Anonymous No.281428231 >>281429929
>>281426625 (OP)
>finally find the One Piece
>it was the friends we made along the way
KINO
Anonymous No.281428242 >>281428382 >>281450672
>>281426625 (OP)
It's a modern phenomenon. Old anime directors knew how to make a good ending.
Anonymous No.281428247 >>281444445 >>281447279
>>281426625 (OP)
Isn't this the one where the people who hated it didn't even bother to read it and was just pushing their cuckhold fetish on to it?
Anonymous No.281428382
>>281428242
>It's a modern phenomenon
The shit endings of the past were rightfully buried and forgotten. The shit endings of today remain fresh in our minds ESPECIALLY thanks to the internet.
Anonymous No.281428468
>>281427759
>>281428222
Or the author does have an ending planned, but the story has veered in a different direction. Either the author makes a new ending which lacks the planning of the original one, or tries to force the original ending and pic related happens.
Anonymous No.281428487 >>281457841 >>281458477 >>281458899
>>281426625 (OP)
This is the last scene from naruto
Anonymous No.281428524 >>281428692 >>281428946
>>281426625 (OP)
>cultural reason
Kinda.
Anonymous No.281428588
>>281426625 (OP)
It's intentional
Anonymous No.281428619 >>281458679
>>281426625 (OP)
I've been on /a/ for a few years now and if I've noticed anything, it's less that shounen never has good endings and more that a lot of guys move the goalposts as to what is considered "good". You could get every storyline wrapped up, every arc completed, and every loose end addressed and someone will still call it shit.
Anonymous No.281428647 >>281430027 >>281447347
>>281427339
Sauce on the anime from the image?
Anonymous No.281428692 >>281428708
>>281428524
Those are the same thing nigger
Anonymous No.281428708
>>281428692
False.
Anonymous No.281428735
>>281426625 (OP)
It's genetic. Only jomon like FKMT and Mizukami can write good endings. The yayoi can't compete
Anonymous No.281428946
>>281428524
That's a retarded way to show ten, fuck off.
Anonymous No.281429447
>>281426870
>>281426625 (OP)
G Gundam
Gash/Zatch Bell
Jackie Chan
Anonymous No.281429612
>>281427931
This is the real answer. Serialized media everywhere has this problem.
Anonymous No.281429929
>>281428231
they'll deny it
Anonymous No.281430027
>>281428647
The post said
>why the japanese can't make good ending?
As implying the entire of japanese works aren't like that, and i proved him wrong
Next time the retarded OP need to change it to "why can't japanese MANGA" since he is obviously a zoomer that only read garbage aimd at teenagers
Anonymous No.281430047
>>281426870
Spirit Circle
Sengoku Youko
Wakusei no Samidare
Anonymous No.281432211
>>281426625 (OP)
but they can
Anonymous No.281432672
>>281426870
- Fate/Stay Night VN : Fate
- Fate/Stay Night VN : Unlimited blade works
- Fate/Stay Night VN : Heaven's feel
Anonymous No.281433394 >>281433601 >>281434089 >>281437065
>>281426625 (OP)
But pic related is a good ending.

The problem is that you western weaboos always want fanservice. So unless the character ends up married, rich, famous and with 3 kids you'll say it's bad.
Anonymous No.281433457 >>281447211
>>281426625 (OP)
>only reads the japanese equivalent of saturday morning cartoons where the artist just makes shit up for 1000 chapters
>wow another unsatisfying ending that dropped 50 plot points who could have seen this coming
Anonymous No.281433601
>>281433394
I remember reading a romance manga that ended pretty quickly in a very satisfying way, and yet the retards on Dex etc still managed to shit up the discussion by saying it was definitely axed because it didn't spend 100+ chapters on "will they, won't they" nonsense.
Anonymous No.281433744 >>281433859 >>281448356
>>281427759
I don't love One Piece as much as I used to, but I still have some hope that it will break the curse of long manga having bad endings, because Oda actually plays shit in advance.
Anonymous No.281433859
>>281433744
*plans shit in advance
Anonymous No.281434077 >>281434538 >>281446855 >>281455616
>>281426625 (OP)
99% of the problems people have with manga endings are more personal than artistic.

MHA is a perfect example.

The manga begins by portraying an individualistic and prejudiced society and ends by portraying a more collectivist and inclusive one (thanks to the MC). It's a coherent and beautiful ending.

Except for those who think being a teacher or being single being or not being the most powerful and famous person in the world is a bad thing (not the case with the Japanese, so much so that the final volume broke sales records in Japan).
Anonymous No.281434089 >>281434538 >>281444445
>>281433394
> But pic related is a good ending.
> protagonist gave up onto his dream despite being basically a super human even without quirk
>he doesn’t work hard to reach his dream despite being powerless and need to wait 8 YEARS for a super suit being gifting to him on a silver plate
>not even took part to the creation of said suit, god’s forbid hims showing some agency
>teacher profession literally pulled out from his ass after timeskip, nothing in the story indicating he wanted to porsue that career or had any development involving it
>not even a single scene of him teaching class, just a pep talk to a buy with a shitty quirk
It was very bad
Hori completely failed in what he wanted to tell with his development.
Both Nagisa from Assasination classroom and Shouyou from Haikuu! Mogs him.
The former as profession since him becoming a teacher was an actual part of his development as a character ON SCREEN, while the latter actually worked hard to pursue his dream during the timeskip epilogue despite being impaired (for the standards of his dream) in a similar way to Deku, and actually SUCCEDED because he worked hard
Anonymous No.281434538 >>281434918 >>281444445 >>281446183
>>281434077
>>281434089
where is being ghosted by all of your friends for 8 years and everyone that literally saw you saving the world on live tv forgeting you a good ending?
Anonymous No.281434737 >>281435810 >>281454026
>>281427931
The more I read Manga the more I believe that an original idea or even interesting premise is nothing compared to a good execution.

You get stories where you can feel the author going "oh shit what do I do next?" or "Now that I am successful I better slow down progress" or how they use tropes as a guiding light even when they are in direct conflict with the reality they created.
Anonymous No.281434839
Name a CW show with a good ending.
Anonymous No.281434918 >>281435198
>>281434538
In Japan I'd say, it keeps happening, in Medaka Box all these best friends don't see each other for a DECADE, even the protagonists who had declared multiple times love to each other and the promise to marry.

It has the longest epilogues I have ever seen (I haven't read Gintama yet though) and they still forgo a lot of shit.
>panel highlight problems created by the series which are barely adressed or solved

They have this terrible problem where they think that lampshading makes it ok for a tired trope to be there and is funny how people on 4chan may be quick to call something reddit or Marvel like for having quips and so often you see stories where characters are poisoned by Irony.
Anonymous No.281435054 >>281450627
>>281426870
Ten - The Nice Guy on the Path of Tenhou
Golden Kamuy
The Fable
Souboutei Must Be Destroyed
Anonymous No.281435198 >>281435623
>>281434918
>they
I think Nisio is an exception.
Anonymous No.281435623 >>281439743
>>281435198
How? Is just another case of the school becoming a battle ground and they highlight so they can promptly forget it, Medaka box is so fucking meta and ironic is nauseating.
Medaka can be such a bitch too, mistreating her best friend, taking her distance after a declaration of love because "oh we gotta wait until we are both 18" fuck off! Learning nothing from the election except "guess I am gonna start eating meat lol".
Anonymous No.281435810
>>281434737
This is very evident with Vagabond, which started as a modern adaptation of the 1939 novel but then veered off to a very different direction. It didn't surprise me that Inoue never got to Musashi and Kojiro's duel in Ganryujima and just skipped to old Musashi without even bothering to make it a proper chapter.
Anonymous No.281437065
>>281433394
That's not what fanservice means.
Anonymous No.281439743 >>281451096
>>281435623
NTA but I think he meant that Nisio is exceptional in the extent that he uses lampshading, far more than authors typically do. So he's not a fair example of the standard approach.
Anonymous No.281442779 >>281442996
>>281426625 (OP)
For the simple reason that they don't have time to plan it, the Japanese entertainment industry is very competitive, and often you only get 1-2 opportunities to truly stand out, so they put all their effort into the beginning, a hook that attracts audiences, a novel, shocking, or controversial premise, no matter what it is, the point is to stand out. They'll figure out how to continue the story once they've signed a big contract.

It may also happen that the author had a planned ending, but due to its success, their editor demands they milk the cash cow, even if it ruins the entire story. For example, SnK was planned to end with all the cadets and Eren dead, no politics, foreign forces, mystical Titan powers, just a dark world with a depressing ending. Perhaps not the best ending, but it maintained the tone of the story, very similar to their one-shot. (You can look it up, there are interviews.) But people asked for more, and look at the result.
Anonymous No.281442983 >>281450627
>>281426870
Golden Kamuy
Shigurui
Blade of the Immortal
Emma
Dungeon Meshi
tldr: Get better tastes
Anonymous No.281442996
>>281442779
>For example, SnK was planned to end with all the cadets and Eren dead, no politics, foreign forces, mystical Titan powers, just a dark world with a depressing ending
proofs
Anonymous No.281443458 >>281447259 >>281453508
>>281426870
好きな子がめがねを忘れた
ダンジョン飯
父とヒゲゴリラと私
北欧貴族と猛禽妻の雪国狩り暮らし
阿波連さんははかれない
クミカのミカク
天才魔女の魔力枯れ
Anonymous No.281443482
>>281426625 (OP)
>Is there a genetic or cultural reason why you don't know what you are talking about?
Anonymous No.281443922
>>281426625 (OP)
Anonymous No.281444160
>>281426625 (OP)
Arrakis teaches the lesson of the knife: chopping off what's incomplete and saying, "Now, it's complete because it ended here."
Anonymous No.281444236
>>281426625 (OP)
depends on what you mean by ending. Setup and conclusion to the final conflict or post conflict series wrap up? Those are 2 very different things and it's pretty common for one to be fine while the other sucks
Anonymous No.281444424
>>281426625 (OP)
literally every ending is called shit now because everybody prefers to get attention online instead of actual discussion. the internet is dead. join a book club
Anonymous No.281444445 >>281445514 >>281451096 >>281457627 >>281458139
>>281434089
>>281434538
Amazing how this anon>>281428247was dead on. It goes beyond shitposting at this point and just that this current generation is just fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.281445514
>>281444445
Yeah at this point it's just willingly outing yourself as an idiot. Especially the people who thought Deku didn't talk to any of his friends for 8 years. Saw one mistranslation and ran with it like a child with scissors.
Anonymous No.281446183 >>281447088
>>281434538
Nobody forgot him. He has a statue with the rest of U-A and kids actively fantasize about being heroes like him or his classmates.
Anonymous No.281446341
What can we expect from the inevitable time jump sequel?
Just like Boruto if Hori doesn't want to do it, someone else will so its happening, they won't let such a cash cow be alone.
Will they actually have Deku and Ochako be together, or will they continue with the teasing even 8 years later?
Will Toga come back somehow?
Anonymous No.281446855 >>281446949 >>281447279
>>281434077
the ending is literally you can't be a hero without quirk or super iron man suit
Anonymous No.281446949
>>281446855
Wrong
Anonymous No.281447088 >>281447185 >>281447279
>>281446183
>He has a statue with the rest of U-A
he was not even on front lmao it reminds me of this scene from angry birds
Anonymous No.281447155 >>281447264 >>281447794
>>281426625 (OP)
I'll take open endings, or even axed ending, over the generic happily married nuclear family salaryman ending.
Anonymous No.281447185 >>281447279 >>281447309
>>281447088
Didn't a bunch of kids didn't even recognized him and when he told them his name they thought he was just a myth.
Nah, it seems like most forgot he was even a superhero years before, fucking awful ending for a protagonist, up there with Simon living as a dirty hobo.
It would have been better to die in a blaze of glory saving the world than to live in mediocrity in a dead-end job...
Anonymous No.281447211
>>281433457
I feel like the actual Saturday morning cartoons have a better track record because how many episodes a show has is more often than not going to be set in stone.
Anonymous No.281447259 >>281455979
>>281443458
>all this modern shit
Are you a 16 year old?
Anonymous No.281447264 >>281447353
>>281447155
Isn't MHA's ending just a generic non-married salaryman ending?
Anonymous No.281447279
>>281446855
>>281447088
>>281447185
This post >>281428247 ages like fine wine
Anonymous No.281447309
>>281447185
and he gave up being a hero as soon as he lost his quirks and become a hero again only after getting a pity ironman suit
Anonymous No.281447347
>>281428647
It’s a VN, it’s translated, and it’s called Gen Iro Haruka
Anonymous No.281447353
>>281447264
never read it. i dont know
Anonymous No.281447363 >>281460388
>Timeskip sequel by different author ala Buruto
>He pairs up bunch of fan favorites randomly
>New author doesn't give a fuck about about fujos and purity fags' headcanon ships
>Ochako has a bunch of kids with another new character who is a clear self insert
>Toga resurrected
>Deku marries the blonde American chick or another random new character
Anonymous No.281447424 >>281447462 >>281447627 >>281457885
>>281426625 (OP)
>MHH doesnt end with marriage and children
>JJK doesnt end with marriage and children
>Kaiju #8 doesnt end with marriage and children
Is it me, or manga authors have become too uppity since Abe died?
Anonymous No.281447455 >>281454364
>>281426870
Claymore
Good Ending (Bravo Kojima)
Tokyo Ghoul (Because it caused the fujo meltdown)
Anonymous No.281447462
>>281447424
Japan is slowly dying
Anonymous No.281447621
>>281427005
Serialization means there's no incentive to plan (in detail) an ending; you can get cancelled at any time so it's ludicrous to waste effort for something so far away in the future. Sure they have a concept or general idea what they want, but the process of serialization (plus adapting the story to fan preferences) means these stories are somewhat fluid and subject to change. All of which just give ample opportunity to write themselves into a corner and fuck up the ending (if they actually get there).
Also the monetization of manga derivatives (games, merchandise) definitely impacts the way authors treat their characters. Even if the story would've worked better letting character A die, that could mean a huge revenue stream lost, so there's big incentive to keep popular characters around.
Anonymous No.281447627
>>281447424
>Is it me
Yes.
Anonymous No.281447714
>>281426625 (OP)
a good manga is like a journey, it's not the destination that matters but the journey itself, the landscapes, the people we meet... the adolescent mind always expects orgasmic endings, like in hentai, but life isn't like that
Anonymous No.281447794
>>281447155
>generic happily married nuclear family salaryman ending
Name 5 times this happened
Anonymous No.281447834 >>281450485
>>281426870
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z
Dragon Ball GT
Anonymous No.281447894
weddings are the shit and if I'm reading shounen stuff I expect the happy ending
Anonymous No.281447908
>>281426870
Yugami-kun
K-on
Code Geass (the new one doesn't count)
Shiki
Serial Experimental Lain
Full Metal Alchemist
Red : Living on The Edge
Darker Than Black (season 2 never exist)
Black Cat
Anonymous No.281448356
>>281433744
Oda just makes shit up in the middle which is no better
Anonymous No.281448512
>>281426870
Dungeon Meshi
Yuusha ga Shinda! (The sequel manga is on hiatus anyway)
Helck (Iken Senki Völundio is an ongoing spinoff, but Helck's story is complete enough)
Anonymous No.281448522
JJK had a good ending.
Anonymous No.281448585 >>281458477
>>281426870
Pun Pun
Naruto
Needless
Anonymous No.281448604
>>281426625 (OP)
mutts will invade if they make a based ending
Anonymous No.281450460
>>281426625 (OP)
jews
Anonymous No.281450485
>>281447834
Anonymous No.281450520 >>281451455 >>281457069
People in this thread don't undestand that as a general observation this is very accurate. They are very good at immediately grasping an aesthetic, analyzing it for whats cool, and then cutting away the fat and enhancing whats good. They are very bad at taking that aesthetic and turining it into a cohesive and complete item.
Anonymous No.281450627
>>281435054
>>281442983
Golden Kamui very ending decent, but the arc leading to it was utter garbage. For a lesser series this would have been acceptable, but not for GK
Anonymous No.281450666 >>281459079
>>281426625 (OP)
As if westerns weren't just as bad.
Read better manga stupid idiot
Anonymous No.281450672 >>281451479 >>281451849
>>281428242
Wait, is this considered a good ending? It's literally a classic happy ending where the hero save the day, get the girl and happily ever after.

Many endings try to avoid this because it's considered too obvious. Gurren Lagan, for example, deliberately added a melancholic note.
Anonymous No.281451004 >>281463951
>>281426870
Mobile Suit Gundam
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack
ZZ fags can stfu absolute garbage show
Anonymous No.281451096 >>281452605
>>281439743
I hope that's what he meant.
>>281444445
>overseas otakus you are too obsessed with virginity
Ah, hear hear from which pulpit does the sermon come, the one where Comic characters can't often touch hands without spazzing out, where they might date for a year without kissing, where most of the times can't portray a non-virgin girl as normal without having that on a pedestal too.
Talk about using cliche, when they made everyone a virgin, which is another japanese manga cliche, or where they made the protagonist encounter his friends only after a big timeskip, which is another cliche,
and whose country is on a receding birthrate.
Anonymous No.281451138 >>281451224 >>281451344 >>281456164
>simple tale of good versus evil
>things end very well
>70+ years after its publishing its influence across all media has yet to stop

How many people are gonna remember your EPIC Manga with a timeskip and half assed ending whose themes are inconsistent and barely anything is setup because you didn't plan it out?
Anonymous No.281451224 >>281451382
>>281451138
>>things end very well
lol, you didn't read the book
Anonymous No.281451344
>>281451138
>>simple tale of good versus evil
I don't think you are smart enough to even being understanding shonen slop
Anonymous No.281451382
>>281451224
I did,given the size of the war they waged, things do end well, despite the scouring of the shire and Frodo departing because of PTSD, the movies certainly did a better job at handling the friendship between legolas and Gimli since they became best friends right away at Rivendel though.
Magic stops being a thing in the world, which is a net positive, Aragorn is a good king, I don't know why you would think things are not well off at the end.
Anonymous No.281451455 >>281456842
>>281450520

Because Manga is another slop industry, creative and unique works are rarity, it always a derivative of a derivative of a derivative.

If you entered a shithole expect to find shit there lol
Anonymous No.281451479
>>281450672
>Many endings try to avoid this because it's considered too obvious. Gurren Lagan, for example, deliberately added a melancholic note.
Probably that it fits the tone and themes of G Gundam makes it a decent ending. When so many anime/manga are trying to one up the reader with something like GL's ending isn't it even more obvious?
Anonymous No.281451840
>>281426870
Out of all things to name here I'll go with SnO.
The punch was satisfactory, even if people hate reviving characters they earned their reset button, Chaos mimicking Icaros was a perfect way to end it as well.
Original dragon ball had a good ending.
Air, even as a LN adaptation it delivered.
Anonymous No.281451849 >>281451865 >>281452085
>>281450672
>Gurren Lagan, for example, deliberately added a melancholic note.
And it really sucked and was done to appear mature
Anonymous No.281451865
>>281451849
Rossiu won
Anonymous No.281452085
>>281451849
This. Basically, Anno's autism infected Gainax and made their people think having shitty blue balls ending is mature.
Anonymous No.281452224 >>281452263
>>281426870
>Dungeon Meshi
>Hoseki no Kuni
>Spirit Circle
Anonymous No.281452263 >>281452560
>>281452224
>>Dungeon Meshi
You just know Laios tax policy will be all about trying to study and raise monster, while Kabru and the mule try to damage control. Even with Laios' insane fertility things are gonna be bleak
A good ending you say?
Anonymous No.281452560 >>281454110 >>281454164
>>281452263
I assumed the question was more about narratively or thematically "good" in quality endings, not literally endings where something "good" happens.
Anonymous No.281452605 >>281452668
>>281451096
>and whose country is on a receding birthrate.
What do you know? It seems that showing people fucking all the time infact isn't accurate to reality especially to a country with a subsection of groups who hate sex and the opposite gender
Anonymous No.281452617
>>281426649
>>281426641
Seethe more
Anonymous No.281452668 >>281452929
>>281452605
Is happening in my country as well and we don't have a loud minority of vocal prudes, it just seems to happen to most countries that reach a certain level of wealth and stability and while the last 10 years might speak against that, this is a trend that had been going for longer.
Anonymous No.281452807
>>281426625 (OP)
>cultural
This, The Japanese literary tradition is too poor compared to the Western one and even the most talented and not stupid authors have an idea of the classics from memes. It's not just about endings, but it becomes clear at the end.
Anonymous No.281452929
>>281452668
If you're living a lifestyle were you
>1. don't need a lot of hands to help you do your work
and
>2. can rely upon other care giving avenues when you reach the end of your life and can no longer support yourself through additional work
it turns out having kids is kind of a shitty deal. You have to mold these piles of raw emotion and desire into functional individuals and pay out the butt for the privilege. And it might not even work! More to the point, your above lifestyle is probably also increasingly not conducive to actually raising kids even if you want to, which puts a damper on things.
Anonymous No.281453508
>>281443458
Aharen ending was so fucking good
Anonymous No.281453791 >>281453919
Anonymous No.281453919
>>281453791
>cynical teacher criticizing your teaching methods and asking if you want to fight alongside your friends means you hates your job and adult life
Anonymous No.281454013
>>281426625 (OP)
It's a cultural thing
Traditionally, eastern stories, from literature to kabuki plays, have all the meat of the story in the first two acts, then a quick and tidy conclusion that is mostly glossed over and might even leave many things unresolved
Life goes on
On the other hand, western stories traditonally end with a grand "return of the king" style finale where every single story thread is brought to a satisfying conclusion and all loose ends are tied up
And they lived happily ever after
In a way, it's a question of whether you think what's most important is the journey or the destination
Anonymous No.281454026 >>281454059
>>281434737
>an original idea or even interesting premise is nothing compared to a good execution.
>It took him this long to realize this simple thing
Anon... Please don't panic but the sky's actually blue
Anonymous No.281454049
>>281426625 (OP)
Anonymous No.281454059 >>281454272
>>281454026
Let me rephrase it then, an original idea in a Manga is not necessarily indicative that the author has the skill to follow up beyond its premise.

Some of the romcoms I am enjoying the most right now have the most basic premises.
Anonymous No.281454098 >>281454784
>>281426625 (OP)
>70 years and no other shounen has ever come close
Anonymous No.281454110
>>281452560
Who knows what faggot OP means

On topic, when has Hideki Arai ever NOT nailed an ending? Genuinely curious.
Anonymous No.281454115 >>281454159
some anons already pointed out shonens have a lot of disavantages
if you don't get success you get axed
if you get success you're forced to milk it
and you get the case on SnK where the jews won't let you
Anonymous No.281454159 >>281454182 >>281454278 >>281454331 >>281460740
>>281454115
Issue is mostly that planning shounen simply isn't done enough.
Its more profitable to keep them going.
FMA, KnY etc all ended when they were supposed to, and they had satisfying endings

Hunter x Hunter could've ended when Gon met his dad and would've been a 10/10 but is such a colossus it was kept going
Anonymous No.281454164 >>281455707
>>281452560
What's the origin of that gif? I keep seeing it everywhere.
Anonymous No.281454167
>>281426625 (OP)
Writing good endings is hard. You look at these series in hindsight as an outsider not as the people working on it. It's hard to quantify when a good ending or a bad ending is actually better for the work. Sometimes you write a series with an ending in mind and then a different ending is actually what lines up with what you wrote.

I will say a lot of my favorite endings are actually Japanese so they do it right a lot of times too.
Anonymous No.281454182 >>281454466
>>281454159
FMA wasn't a weekly release shonen and the author took years to plan the manga
she even took interviews with real veterans to make the Ishbalan war
Anonymous No.281454272
>>281454059
I think that's just mangakas chasing after that 'one great idea' that will surely let them make it big time.
Maybe that's just their wishful thinking. Maybe it's editors trying to catch lighting in the bottle and find something that will surpass the big names of old. I don't know.
Anonymous No.281454278
>>281454159
I hate FMA's ending. It's too Victorian and there isn't a single instance of Japanese Salaryman Ending that has ever been good.
Anonymous No.281454331 >>281454423
>>281454159
>FMA, KnY etc all ended when they were supposed to,
FMA wasn't releasing weekly. Arakawa, be it by intuition or actual big brain, chose to stay in monthly format, and her new manga is monthly too.
There's no fucking way FMA would've ended the way it did if it was in Weekly Shonen Jump. We'd have some schizo shit going on, like an entire arc of training in Xing or whatever.
Anonymous No.281454364
>>281447455
the sex chapter salvaged the entire thing and i've been kneeling in fujo tears ever since
Anonymous No.281454423 >>281454491
>>281454331
>like an entire arc of training in Xing or whatever
Alphonse Elric loses himself in Opium Dens and chink pussy
Anonymous No.281454466 >>281454523 >>281454689
>>281454182
This reminded me of all the volume afterwords where mangakas mention doing some research, like a manga set in Europe and they get to travel to take reference pics and all that, or they'll talk with some expert or visit some museum, etc.
This can lead to very shoehorned arcs, but it's usually a good thing.

What's there to research in regards to magic ninjas, superheroes and all the shit from battle manga churned out at weekly pace? Pretty much nothing.
Anonymous No.281454491
>>281454423
Half of /a/ would've screamed KINOOOO and another would complain that nothing happened in n the last twenty chapters
Anonymous No.281454523 >>281454689
>>281454466
>What's there to research in regards to magic ninjas, superheroes and all the shit from battle manga churned out at weekly pace?
Depends on where things take place and what exactly is happening. Research could include even simply visiting real world locations that are used as inspiration or reading on/talking to people researching whatever historical stuff you want to draw parallels from.
Anonymous No.281454529 >>281454637
>>281426625 (OP)
they had heike monogatari and it's all been downhill from there
Anonymous No.281454637
>>281454529
>monogatari
>mono
Monoshit never prospers, harems are the way to go
Anonymous No.281454689
>>281454523
>>281454466
If the author is interested in depicting military tactics, looking at actual sabotage operations from a real world military perspective can be helpful.
If naruto for example wanted to do worldbuilding, it might be necessary to see how rural farming works, how different producers are connected to the state and the military and so on
Anonymous No.281454711 >>281454719
>>281426870
Golden Kamuy
Holyland
Fire Punch
Anonymous No.281454718
>>281426625 (OP)
is there a genetic reason why OP can't write in english?
Anonymous No.281454719 >>281459132
>>281454711
>Fire Punch
Thats a stretch
Anonymous No.281454784
>>281454098
>too dumb to learn proper boxing
>relied solely on Japanese fighting spirit
>Jap audience cope by claiming he fought well
Anonymous No.281454797
>>281426870
bokurano
devilman
parasyte
Anonymous No.281455045
>>281426870
Gurren Lagan
Evangelion
Ashita no Joe
Anonymous No.281455093 >>281455735
I thought MHA had a fine ending. It addressed everything that needed addressing
Anonymous No.281455184
Picrel had a splendid ending that reinfroced all of it's themes and let every side character shine one last time.
Anonymous No.281455215 >>281455260
perfect ending
Anonymous No.281455260
>>281455215
It's good, but Jin surviving his "suicidal slash" was silly and took away from the bushido sacrifice themes of the show.

Imagine that last shot you posted, but with Jin missing - - symbolising how his spirit, not his body, is going in its own direction with the other two. Sadly, postwar Japan is scared of bushido death due to WW2 trauma
Anonymous No.281455616 >>281456713
>>281434077
>Except for those who think being a teacher or being single being or not being the most powerful and famous person in the world is a bad thing
So, MHA itself?
Anonymous No.281455707
>>281454164
Houseki no Kuni
Anonymous No.281455735 >>281455829
>>281455093
>It addressed everything that needed addressing
what about Deku's virginity?
Anonymous No.281455829
>>281455735
Lost to a taiwanese ladyboy.
Anonymous No.281455979
>>281447259
If anything it's avoiding a "old good new bad" argument
Anonymous No.281456164 >>281456540
>>281451138
>How many people are gonna remember your EPIC Manga with a timeskip and half assed ending whose themes are inconsistent and barely anything is setup because you didn't plan it out?
Shouldn't you be comparing subpar/shitty manga with subpar/shitty fantasy and not The Lord of the Rings?
Anonymous No.281456261
>>281426870
I can't believe nobody posted Sumire 16 yet.
Anonymous No.281456290 >>281456364 >>281456616 >>281456643 >>281456721
Anonymous No.281456364 >>281456682 >>281456721
>>281456290
was about to post this.
You can tell when an author planned the ending and the plot points from the start
Anonymous No.281456540
>>281456164
All subpar/shitty fantasy copied LotR wholesale (with some D&D sprinkled in) anyway
Anonymous No.281456616 >>281456643
>>281456290
>owari da
>no meaningful results on Google
Name of the manga?
Anonymous No.281456643 >>281456667 >>281456754
>>281456290
I keep forgetting whether to watch it or read it.
>>281456616
Seriously nigga? Google and Yandex gave me both the answer.
Anonymous No.281456667 >>281456768
>>281456643
I guess my google-fu is just THAt shit...
Anonymous No.281456682
>>281456364
>You can tell when an author planned the ending and the plot points from the start
Yeah because of how retarded the story gets
Anonymous No.281456713 >>281456782 >>281458313
>>281455616
Another person who didn't read it
Anonymous No.281456721 >>281456748
>>281456290
>>281456364
A careful planning doesn't mean anything when a nice mystery devolves into nothing but crappy mechanics and 4D chess bullshit.
Anonymous No.281456728
Despite the blatant asspulls I liked Candy and Cigarettes because it spoke to my conspiracist self and the good guys won
Anonymous No.281456748 >>281457268
>>281456721
Just because it's not mystery it doesn't mean it's shit.
To keep the mystery going the MC would have to be actually retarded.
Anonymous No.281456754 >>281456768
>>281456643
mamma mia
Anonymous No.281456768
>>281456667
You didn't get
"サマータイム レンダ 最終 回 アニメ"
in your google search box?
Anyway if you are still getting the usual Google search click on the CAMERA image, paste the URL of the image and if that still doesn't work then choose the option to search by an exact match.
>>281456754
at least for once it doesn't get confused for spanish.
Anonymous No.281456782
>>281456713
A love how this is hammered home even more when you compare and contrast the first chapter
Anonymous No.281456842 >>281456938 >>281457514
>>281451455
This is true. Jap media leans hard on anime and (especially) videogames, which have a vastly higher success rate of being actually complete works. The best anime are rarely adaptations of manga, they're either original works, adapting something more cohesive, or take after their manga so loosely that they don't care about what they change at all.

Manga as a collecting whole just lack this clout. There is absolutely nothing in the medium that "works as a totality" the way something like, say, Ocarina of Time does, for prime example from Japanese vidya.
Anonymous No.281456938
>>281456842
Anime and especially video games are derivative as fuck
Anonymous No.281457069 >>281457122 >>281457246
>>281426870
Dungeon Meshi
Golden Kamuy
I was gonna say spirit circle but someone beat me to it
Full Metal Alchemist (fuck you, cope, it rules)

>>281450520
The problem isn’t the Japanese you moron. The problem is SERIALIZED LONG FORM STORYTELLING IS VERY HARD. Look at seasonal TV or comics and tell me how many stories that are published in installments, without a certainty of length, over YEARS, come to a conclusion that is satisfying? It’s just structured in such a way that makes it very difficult to do. It’s half improv and that continues for five years
Anonymous No.281457122 >>281457292
>>281457069
>Full Metal Alchemist (fuck you, cope, it rules)
It doesn't
Protag loses his powers and becomes a useless manlet AND hooks up with the main girl because happy ending
Anonymous No.281457157
>>281426870
Dungeon mesh
Mushibugyo
Fire Force
Anonymous No.281457162
>>281426625 (OP)
FMA
Anonymous No.281457195 >>281457282 >>281457302
what was the point of mha again?it just felt like typical power up shounen slop but author tried to make the ending deep or realistic adulthood or something
Anonymous No.281457246 >>281460804
>>281457069
>Look at seasonal TV or comics and tell me how many stories that are published in installments, without a certainty of length, over YEARS, come to a conclusion that is satisfying?
The issue is the manga etc. is structured in a way the builds up the expectation of an interesting and satisfying conclusion to things in ways most western shows, even those with long form stories, typically don't. The premise of most series that hooks people is built on meaningful progressing towards something compelling happening, there's this inbuilt expectation of something grand boiling up actually driving a given series. People just don't expect western soaps or serials etc.to be driving towards anything significant in the same way.
Anonymous No.281457268
>>281456748
Or, keep it a mystery and don't set up "well defined" but retarded rules which essentially exist to justify the power of love and friendship bullshit.

People who care about magic systems and clockwork-like puzzles are soulless autists.
Anonymous No.281457282 >>281457425 >>281457627 >>281457669
>>281457195
Deku having to give up OfA to defeat AfO is not a bad thing in my opinion
the entire at least he got to be a hero fits the "enjoy things while they last"
but Deku becomes stuck in life until All Might gives him the iron man suit
Anonymous No.281457292 >>281457326 >>281457409
>>281457122
He loses his ability to do alchemy because the central theme of the story is you can't get anything without giving something up. In order to get his brother back he gives up the one thing he's devoted his life to studying. The greatest sacrifice for the greatest reward.
Anonymous No.281457302 >>281457415 >>281457461
>>281457195
Point is that mangaka had an idea about a superhero manga, then started writing it and changed it into a more typical school/academy setting so it'll be more popular, but forgot to actually come up with a cohesive narrative for this new story.
Anonymous No.281457326 >>281457402 >>281457409
>>281457292
Nice ChatGPT reply. Now try thinking for yourself.
Anonymous No.281457360
>>281426625 (OP)
I don't get what your kind would bother to come here then. Just go enjoy the good media made by superior races.
Anonymous No.281457361 >>281457395
>>281426870
Kinnikuman (original release before sequels)
Akira (manga)
Houseki no Kuni
Anonymous No.281457395 >>281457457 >>281457795
>>281457361
>Akira (manga)
what's the difference with the movie?
Anonymous No.281457402
>>281457326
Is this the current era copout reply?
Anonymous No.281457409
>>281457292
>>281457326
the point is "grow up" as a person, you don't need alchemy for that
all personal gates of truth have unique diagrams representing the person except the Homonculus, because he never "grew" he was fixated on power and led a static existence unable to learn and adapt
Edward renounced alchemy because there was more to life
Anonymous No.281457415
>>281457302
>Point is that mangaka had an idea about a superhero manga, then started writing it and changed it into a more typical school/academy setting so it'll be more popular
....the manga from the beginning was about the school hence the title My Hero ACADEMIA
Anonymous No.281457425 >>281457627
>>281457282
Yeah, for me it's the iron manlet suit.
Just fucking stick to something. If Deku is powerless and happy as a teacher, show it. Show his classmates visiting him, show him being cherished and valued despite not being OfA carrier. It would be a fine ending if it wasn't presented as a slideshow of everyone moving on and moving up while Deku just looks at the statue.
Or, if you want Deku to continue being a hero, show him working on the suit, working with others to build it, test it etc.
The ending is neither here nor there.
Anonymous No.281457457
>>281457395
More gay sex.
Anonymous No.281457461
>>281457302
>Point is that mangaka had an idea about a superhero manga, then started writing it and changed it into a more typical school/academy setting so it'll be more popular
How can he change something that was set and stone from the beginning
>but forgot to actually come up with a cohesive narrative for this new story.
So what was the narrative previously then?
Anonymous No.281457514 >>281457803
>>281456842
Read more short manga, dumbass
Anonymous No.281457627 >>281457744 >>281457958 >>281458203 >>281459301
>>281444445
I think the fact that the complaints are incredibly pedantic also supports the claim>>281457282 >>281457425 like literally who cares about the suit when the entire point is that he sacrificed his own happiness for the greater good. You complain about the ending being too sad and then turn around and complain about something else.
Anonymous No.281457669 >>281457696
>>281457282
that ironman suit is the worst part of the ending. the ending might even ok if he made deku stayed as a teacher rest of his life helping others to become heros but no he had to ruin it by giving deku a ironman suit so he can become a hero again.it looks like deku gave up on being a hero just because he lost his quirks and can only become hero again with the iron man suit.
Anonymous No.281457671
Man, why did Undead Unluck rush its ending so badly? Was it doing that badly in sterilization?
Anonymous No.281457696 >>281457766
>>281457669
>again.it looks like deku gave up on being a hero just because he lost his quirks and can only become hero again with the iron man suit.
Because that's exactly what happened retard
Anonymous No.281457739
>>281426625 (OP)
mangaka usually don't write their manga with an ending in mind, or their editor forces them to artificially inflate the chapter count due to popularity so when then when it finally ends it might either have left the authors original scope or been axed
Anonymous No.281457744 >>281457824
>>281457627
>literally who cares about the suit
Exactly the point of my post that you've just quoted
The suit is not needed, Dekike would be perfectly fine as a teacher, just show it better
Anonymous No.281457766 >>281457798 >>281459631
>>281457696
what happened to anyone can be hero even without super powers bullshit?
Anonymous No.281457795
>>281457395
The movie was made before the manga finished, so it's missing the whole final 1/3 of the plot, skipping right to the planned ending.
Anonymous No.281457798
>>281457766
>what happened to anyone can be hero even without super powers bullshit?
You made that shit up
Anonymous No.281457803 >>281458647
>>281457514
Lol, you're not going to convince me that there are actually great short story manga with a vague suggestion like that. The examples people actually talk about, like Junji Ito, are complete trash, so be blunt about what you mean.
Anonymous No.281457810
>>281426625 (OP)
Good ending though.
>>281426694
>mom said I'm special
Anonymous No.281457824
>>281457744
>Exactly the point of my post that you've just quoted
The post complaining about the suit being some narrative deference when it fucking isn't because he's still a teacher at the end of the story so what are you complaining
Anonymous No.281457841
>>281428487
This is so comfy...
Anonymous No.281457885 >>281457910
>>281447424
Why do you guys care so much about marriage and children? Go read something for girls.
Anonymous No.281457910
>>281457885
I think he lacks self-awareness, since "time jump to marriage and children" is the most generic battle shounen ending possible.
Anonymous No.281457958 >>281458067 >>281458139 >>281458172 >>281458203 >>281458300
>>281457627
So why he couldn’t work hard like “pic related” and prove to everyone that, even if he sacrificed his own happyness for “le greater good”, he still took control of his own life and worked hard to reach his own dream?

Like again: taking part to the sperimentation and creation of the suit from the very beginning as test subject, or stucking up as the low low tier hero that helps alongside the civilians in simpler but meaning full tasks , showing that he is still smiling happy and prouldly despite being utterly out ranked by everyone (even by Mineta etc..) because he is living his own dream by being both a teacher and a C tier hero?
Anonymous No.281458067
>>281457958
Because if Deku isn't useless by the end as a hero, the ending doesn't mean anything.
Anonymous No.281458139 >>281458338
>>281444445
It boils down to westoids projecting their politics into manga/anime.
>>281457958
>the character is happy about having a normal life???
>AYEEEEE THIS IS LITERALLY THE ARMAGEDDON
Anonymous No.281458172 >>281458338
>>281457958
>So why he couldn’t work hard like “pic related” and prove to everyone that, even if he sacrificed his own happyness for “le greater good”, he still took control of his own life and worked hard to reach his own dream?
So what was Deku's dream? Go ahead explain.
Anonymous No.281458203
>>281457627
>I think the fact that the complaints are incredibly pedantic
>>281457958
>Like again: taking part to the sperimentation and creation of the suit from the very beginning as test subject, or stucking up as the low low tier hero that helps alongside the civilians in simpler but meaning full tasks , showing that he is still smiling happy and prouldly despite being utterly out ranked by everyone (even by Mineta etc..) because he is living his own dream by being both a teacher and a C tier hero?

You played yourself anon.
Anonymous No.281458300 >>281458324 >>281458343 >>281458405 >>281458430
>>281457958
Anonymous No.281458313 >>281458343
>>281456713
Yeah, that's why deku remained a teacher at the end...wait...
Anonymous No.281458324 >>281458343 >>281458405
>>281458300
Anonymous No.281458338 >>281458382 >>281458475 >>281459301 >>281459394
>>281458139
>>281458172
He wanted to be an hero.
In fact he was sad that he could not be an hero anymore.
0,5 seconds after All might gift him the super suit, there he is back doing hero work, though not as busy as the others since his main job is the teacher one.
His dream since he was a kid was BECOME AN HERO AND MAKES PEOPLE HAPPY. So he wanted to do both these things, which can be mutual exclusive since he never cared about fame (so i don’t understand why he didn’t worked hard as C tier hero to accomplish that too and stay more in contact with his friends)
And this is also the other problem with the ending. Him being a teacher is literally pulled by hori’s ass offscreen. We are just told “dude i love being a teacher” in the post epilogue chapter, but other than that we never had Deku taking in consideration that job other than “he makes children happy uwu”. It is a very rushed development .
Unlike a proper teacher development like Nagisa from AssClass, which had a whole arc focussing on that matter and which future he wanted to follow. Deku never got any of that or even a reference about considering teaching. If there was even a small arc about Deku realizing being an Hero was not important at all in the grand scheme of things, the ending would’ve worked better
Anonymous No.281458343
>>281458313
GEEZ DUDE OH MAN ANON
>>281458300
>>281458324
Anonymous No.281458382 >>281458488
>>281458338
>He wanted to be an hero.
So he achieved it already before the ending
Anonymous No.281458405 >>281458448
>>281458300
>>281458324
>literally “TELL DON’T SHOW”, you could have Deku talking directly at the reader “SEE YOU RETARD! I REALLY REALLY REALLY LIKE BEING A TEACHER! NOW STOP WITH THESE MCDONALD MEMES!!!”
>and on top of that, it is literally pulled AFTER the epilogue chapter, not before or during an arc

It is just damage control, and not even a good one considering the bastard has to literally TELL it instead of showing it
Anonymous No.281458430 >>281458448
>>281458300
that just looks like super coping lmao
Anonymous No.281458448
>>281458405
>>281458430
Anonymous No.281458475 >>281458511
>>281458338
>Unlike a proper teacher development like Nagisa from AssClass, which had a whole arc focussing on that matter and which future he wanted to follow
>arc
It was literally one chapter
Anonymous No.281458477
>>281428487
>>281448585
My problem with Naruto's ending is that it never resolves the Kaguya problem it created near the end. A super powerful being came from a mysterious land with a mysterious mission and was initially good before something made her evil, which is when she created an army and had to be sealed. Then she is revived, gets defeated and the manga ends. But where did she come from? Why? Are there others? You need Boruto for answers, so the Naruto ending is lacking.
Anonymous No.281458488 >>281458509 >>281459631
>>281458382
Okay, and why he can’t continue do that before the suit?
His body is super strong, canonically he is more resilient than many quirk users since he endure full power OFA + mhu 7 quirks.
Could test the prototype gadgets leading to the creation of the suit
Could do as good as many low tier heroes by just using his super body, knowledge and gadget…considering other heroes’s quirks are just “i have a tail” or “my sticky balls”

Once you start thinking about it for some minutes , the whole “he can’t be an hero now” feels really stupid
Anonymous No.281458509 >>281458573 >>281458584
>>281458488
>Okay, and why he can’t continue do that before the suit
Because he didn't have a quirk retard
Anonymous No.281458511
>>281458475
> a whole POST EPILOGUE chapter
Literally lazy fraud tier
Anonymous No.281458573 >>281458587
>>281458509
so him being a teacher is just coping
Anonymous No.281458584 >>281458629
>>281458509
>SUPER SUIT that makes you as strong as OFA user= i will return being an hero
>working hard with gadgets or the low tier prototipe version of said suit = no sir, i won’t be an hero anymore
Anonymous No.281458587
>>281458573
That's just projecting anon
Anonymous No.281458629 >>281458723
>>281458584
>GUY who's guaranteed to get the job done
>Guy who's unreliable but...he tried his best right?
Anonymous No.281458647
>>281457803
panpanya, anything with 2 volumes (上下)
Anonymous No.281458679
>>281428619
>You could get every storyline wrapped up, every arc completed, and every loose end addressed and someone will still call it shit.
You can do all of those things in ways that are uninteresting or unsatisfying
Anonymous No.281458694 >>281458770 >>281458941
>he lost ofa but it's okay he got the iron man suit to replace it!!
why even make him lose ofa if they gonna gave him new power to replace it anyway?
Anonymous No.281458723 >>281458920
>>281458629
>NO I WILL NOT FOLLOW MY DREAM DESPITE THE ODDS AND THE DIFFICULTIES I MIGHT FACE FOR IT
>I WILL JUST WAIT UNTIL SOMEONE ELSE WILL SERVE ME AN EASY WAY OUT ON A SILVER PLATE BECAUSE “MHU COMMUNITY” IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN WORKING HARD AND CHASING YOUR DREAM BY YOURSELF

This is literally Disney’s WISH tier
Anonymous No.281458729
>>281426625 (OP)
They want to keep popular series running, until they start sucking then they axe them as fast as possible.
The only ones with good endings are the ones that are short on purpose.
Anonymous No.281458760
>>281426863
Oh yeah. DM is a jewel.
Anonymous No.281458770 >>281458973 >>281459005
>>281458694
Because “mhu collectivism”>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>common sense and working hard.
Deku can’t work hard for it , he must be Rewarded and gifter for it like a good passive Nepo baby
Anonymous No.281458823
>>281426625 (OP)
Ending a story doesn't make anyone any money.
Anonymous No.281458899
>>281428487
I can't care about a happy ending when the story was such a shitshow.
I guess bad things can have good endings sometimes.
Anonymous No.281458920
>>281458723
>NO I WILL NOT FOLLOW MY DREAM DESPITE THE ODDS AND THE DIFFICULTIES I MIGHT FACE FOR IT
He already achieved his dream retard
Anonymous No.281458941
>>281458694
But its not a power its just a suit hes still quirkless
Anonymous No.281458973
>>281458770
>Deku needs to work hard for a gift by his friends or else the ending sucks
Anonymous No.281459005
>>281458770
He saved the world
Anonymous No.281459058 >>281459478 >>281459928
So /a/'s version is just having Deku reject the billion dollar suit and go back to being a cuck
Anonymous No.281459079 >>281460349
>>281450666
That was very disappointing. It dragged on with little meaning and then one day it ended with "and then they still were friends in the future"
I loved it but it felt like a lot of wasted potential.
Anonymous No.281459090
99% of manga is manufactured shit with editors meddling and authors with zero clue of what they are doing
Anonymous No.281459132
>>281454719
No, I agree with him.
I'm not a fan of that manga, but that was probably the only satisfiying "good" ending Fujimoto could have come up with which makes sense thematically.
The ending is not questionable, what came before was.
Anonymous No.281459209 >>281459264
>>281426625 (OP)
Its a monetary reason. Mangas either end to abruptly or get extended unnaturally long for there to be proper conclusion. its by design.
Anonymous No.281459232
>>281426625 (OP)
>genetic
No, but you are however genetically retarded.
>cultural
Yes, manga is sold on premise, and publishers over there a much less concerned about your ending as they are with how many magazines/books you can sell in the present. It's almost the opposite in the US where publishers want to know exactly what your plans are and will judge accordingly (this is kind of how Kirkman got away with selling the walking dead)
Anonymous No.281459240
>>281426625 (OP)
Isn't this a manga/animeaka comic&cartoon slop issue? Their film and books were good.
Anonymous No.281459264
>>281459209
this
Anonymous No.281459301
>>281457627
>I think the fact that the complaints are incredibly pedantic
>>281458338
>This entire fucking post
Anonymous No.281459337
>>281426870
Blame!
Claymore
Inuyasha
Anonymous No.281459394
>>281458338
>He wanted to be an hero.
But he's still alive
Anonymous No.281459478
>>281459058
Deku being a teacher at UA is fine
or he could run his own hero agency
but at least give him a fucking girlfriend
Anonymous No.281459556 >>281459591 >>281459619
>FMA, Dungeon Meshi
>good endings
>written by women
coincidence?
Anonymous No.281459583 >>281460128
Anonymous No.281459591
>>281459556
Anonymous No.281459619
>>281459556
>unremarkable happy ending
>shit sucks
>unremarkable happy ending...by a woman
>BEST SHIT EVER
Anonymous No.281459631
>>281457766
>what happened to anyone can be hero even without super powers bullshit?
That was never a thing. The closest to it is that being a hero is more about the mindset than anything else.
>>281458488
>Could do as good as many low tier heroes by just using his super body, knowledge and gadget…considering other heroes’s quirks are just “i have a tail” or “my sticky balls”
Be careful, you're starting to create your own headcanon here anon. It's never stated that he doesn't try to help people anymore, and the fact that he works for the hero academy implies he at least still uses what he knows from his days as a hero to help the next generation of them. He less-so gave up on his dream and more-so shifted the idea of how that dream could be accomplished. The hero suit thing being a gift is supposed to express just how much of an impact Deku's heroic efforts has had on the people around him.
Anonymous No.281459756
Kokou no hito also has an immaculate ending.

Op continues to be btfo
Anonymous No.281459928 >>281459965
>>281459058
Either have him go into engineering and make him participate in building the suit to show that even without powers, you can be a regular fucking hero. Or let him continue teaching the next generation about true heroism or some shit. Combining both is retarded. It's really not that hard of a concept.
Anonymous No.281459965
>>281459928
>Make him do something out of character

This is why you're not a writer
Anonymous No.281459975 >>281460167 >>281462968
>>281426625 (OP)
i can't remember where i've heard it, but i've heard through the grapevine that japanese authors tend to have fundamentally flawed mindsets when it comes to writing.
from what i can understand, a lot of western writers tend to focus exactly on the characters and how they change, while japanese authors focus on how the world itself changes. rather than planning ahead, japanese authors decide upon a "state" of the world or the plot that they want it to be in by the end of the manga. that's also why endings tend to feel so unbelievably rushed and contrived; because they are and the mangaka is just trying to get to whatever state he wants the universe to be in by any means necessary.
in other words, yes it is a genetic thing.
Anonymous No.281460128
>>281459583
oh yeah, that was some good stuff
Anonymous No.281460167 >>281460231
>>281459975
>yes it is a genetic thing.
You are describing a cultural thing.
Anonymous No.281460231
>>281460167
genetics cause the behavior that cultivates culture
Anonymous No.281460349 >>281464275
>>281459079
>and then one day it ended with "and then they still were friends in the future"
The last panel features the moon being beautiful, it might not have been spelled out but the implications are clear.
Anonymous No.281460388
>>281447363
>>Deku marries the blonde American chick
She died though
Anonymous No.281460644 >>281460684 >>281460722 >>281460755
I hope MHA has a bunch of spin-offs NOT made by Hori.

Vigilantes is just MHA but better. I wanna spin-off about low-level villains getting up to no good and butting heads.
The archvillain can be a corrupt hero or a "real" hardened criminal or something.

Where's that theme of youthful rebellion, come on now.
Anonymous No.281460684
>>281460644
>"Good" villains vs "evil" heroes

Peak?
Anonymous No.281460722 >>281460742
>>281460644
>The archvillain can be a corrupt hero
didn't americans already make a comic about that
Anonymous No.281460740 >>281461428
>>281454159
FMA has a garbage final arc and the most generic yet obsessively overrated ending of all. It's beyond boring
KNY's ending was some reincarnation trash last I remember
Anonymous No.281460742
>>281460722
Sadly its ennisslop so its edgy to the point of retardation while also disregarding its own themes and also being woke at the same time.

Super Crooks is what i was thinking of
Anonymous No.281460755 >>281460800
>>281460644
>Vigilantes is just MHA but better
That's why it flopped!
Anonymous No.281460800 >>281461750 >>281462923
>>281460755
Has it?
Too bad. Quality stuff often struggles to find mainstream appeal.
The webcomic didnt have a huge budget behind it so i think it made plenty. I wouldnt be surprised if the anime failed to turn in profit given how beautiful it looks.

They'll prolly make up whatever they lost with more MHA movies + Vigs merchandise.
Anonymous No.281460804 >>281462968
>>281457246
>Lost
>nu-BSG
>GoT
Anonymous No.281461428 >>281461654
>>281460740
>ending that ties up loose ends and is a natural progression and finish to what was introduced before
>the arc of the protagonist ends in a coherent and reasonable way
>bad
You need to explain your point a bit more. What would a "good" ending entail, given all those strong points?
Anonymous No.281461444
>>281426870
Laputa in the Castle in the Sky

Villager A Wants to Save the Villainess no Matter What!

Naruto (Good end why finally finish that awful story)
Anonymous No.281461493 >>281462275
fixed
Anonymous No.281461654 >>281461830
>>281461428
A lot of people should've died and Al should've stayed as armor or died too
Thst would have been kino
Anonymous No.281461750
>>281460800
>Quality stuff often struggles to find mainstream appeal.
Or maybe you're just full of shit
Anonymous No.281461830
>>281461654
>the mc's should have failed and there should have been more blood and death and stuff
I too remember when I was 13
Anonymous No.281462275
>>281461493
>fixed
Ochako needs to be pregnant as well
Anonymous No.281462923
>>281460800
>Has it?
It didn't make WSJ numbers so obviously it did.
Anonymous No.281462968 >>281463490
>>281460804
LOST is an interesting example, because while it has many sub-goals and sub-plots and things that progress, which each individually could be very strong and well executed, there isn't really every a sense that everything is working towards a clear overall goal or thought out conclusion. Western TV tends to hinge on things going by "season by season", where there has to be room made for stuff to happen "next season", even if the previous season was great and ended in a way that would have made for a natural conclusion. You see this in things like Prison Break or Stranger Things, where each could happily have been single season shows with fine conclusions, but were made to continue on and end in ways that basically beg for more funding for he next part.

>>281459975
>japanese authors decide upon a "state" of the world or the plot that they want it to be in by the end of the manga
This makes a lot of sense of things to me, as this seems to be the 'special' element that western series tend to lack in comparison to Japanese, and why the lack of strong endings feels like it damages Japanese series more than it does western ones. When an anime starts, it will often deliberately establish this sense that things are at least supposed to be progressing towards a significant state of affairs different from how things are that is something to anticipate.

In contrast, a 'prestige' show like The Sopranos might have a state of affairs set up and develop and elaborate on it in all kinds of ways, which can change (often abruptly) from one season to the next, but there's never a sense that there's supposed to be a particular end goal or state in mind, the show is simply following the ins and outs of a mob family and using that premise to explore various things, it isn't hooking you by hinting at some greater destiny for things, like anime more often does.
Anonymous No.281463490
>>281462968
Sopranos is garbage
Anonymous No.281463951
>>281451004
>CCA
It would honestly be a 11/10 ending if there weren't any more sequels after that.
Fuck Unicorn btw
Anonymous No.281464275
>>281460349
I imply you my dick