Thread 281472889

after waiting for 2 weeks turns out we don't have the 2nd part of the latest chapter but we have an extra chapter for this shit
>On the way home after the cultural festival wrap-up
>Well, see you at school.
>Yeah, get home safe.
>T… This feels really good.
>Maybe because I didn’t invite her to the festival, I ended up saying something pretty bold…(Me and Kusunoki… we’re special, right?)
>For Kusunoki to respond to me like that… could it be…?

>Is this the cultural festival magic!?
>Somehow, ever since the festival ended, I’ve been hyper-aware of Keisuke-kun…?
>Is this that thing in romcoms where the cultural festival makes people grow closer!?
>Is it okay for me to get my hopes up too!?
>Looks like today will end with me in this happy mood.
>HEBIKAWA???

in other news author made a little survey asking who is the favorite girl, and most people said Hebikawa or Ririsa (her first name). honestly i don't know who got more votes, Kusunoki or Otobe, both are pretty insignificant.
of course it might be coincidental after this post that the author posted Kusunoki's arts as if the author wants to remind you that she's the real MC not the snake lady.

I can correct snake.

Can we go back to the main couple already?
The author has wasted so much time and basically derailed the story to give screen time to the snake bitch, who is basically just an antagonist, that it feels like the story is going nowhere.

>>281473472
the main couple is boring as fuck

>>281473472
JP doesn't give a shit about kusuboring

>>281473551
Then get the main couple together already, and either switch the focus to the snake bitch or give her a spin off, because as it is the manga has no real direction and it feels all disjointed.

>>281473008
Hebikawa is objectively the one with an interesting character arc.

>>281473008
snek is about to go missing for like 30 chapters

>>281473642
If the author was based like all those who fuck with the audience, he would confirmed that she is a whore and has been fucking the step dad.

>>281473608
the manga has always been about Kusunoki trying to fix her highschool debut by getting more friends (kinda like Komi), it's not about dating Shizuki, and so far it's doing exactly like this by getting into Irie's circle.

>>281473472
He threw the main couple under the bus when Kusonoki said she sees Shizuki as a friend

>>281473819
That was a typical romcom "misunderstanding"

>>281473813
Again, this is stil a romcom

>>281473899
>Again, this is stil a romcom
Still he deliberately postponed it in favor of friendship filler

>>281473813
the main character is not kusunoki though, it's the guy, and everything about him comes back to romance.

>>281473551
>>281473819
What do you think the slut is there for? To make Kusunoki jealous and see the MC as her future love interest

>>281474493
The slut's name? Irie!!

>Kusunoki-san is such a flawless saint that there’s not a single fault to be found, and no matter what she does, she’s cute—she totally gives off the vibe of a classic heroine. She’s just so cute.
>With that said, I support Hebikawa-san.

Hilarious

>>281473008
>>281475003
Author is gonna have a melty over audience liking the wrong girl, isn't she?

>>281475166
Doubt, she deliberately made Hebikawa more likable, she's not even a cunt like she was ~10 chapters before, just some comic relief seething girl

>>281473008
I'm sure Kusunoki has some sort of tragic past that the author is gonna use to make you like her more but Snake has better chemistry with the Mc.

>>281475211
Didn't she write a tweet about snek being a malicious evil girl a couple of months ago?

>>281475003
Wtf that's literally my comment?

>>281472889 (OP)
Oh sweet, bump for reading

>>281473008
>>281475003
BASED Elevens, tonight we are brothers.

>>281473008
From what I can tell:
>Hebikawa: 19
>Moe: 7
>Kusunoki: 3

Kusubroskis...

>>281477329
Kusunoki hasn't had good interactions with the MC in a while now, the culture festival was good for her character making friends and solving problems independently of MC, but that just made the gulf between them even wider, which I guess is kinda the point.

>>281477329
moe stronk

>>281477329
>title girl is dead last in its own popularity compared to other girls
When did that happen?

>>281478095
One of the replies said they usually see more snek hate in comments on the official webcomic reader site, FWIW.

>>281478095
shomin sample
Even the shitty childhood friend had more votes than Aika.

>>281477329
Kek based gremlin

>>281473008
>>281475003
I understand that snake is more popular but I really don't see her and MC ending up together.
She needs to move heaven and earth to convince me (or the MC).

>>281473008
>the antagonist is more popular that the heroines
every time

>>281478382
The antagonist can actually have flaws and a personality, god forbid the heroine does or it might set off certain types

>>281478543
I think the problem here is Kusnoki's cryptic deal is essentially the central conflict of the manga and thus it can't be addressed at the same pace or focus as a character like Snek. Snek can enjoy having her deal laid out explicitly because it's just fodder for more conflict among the cast whenever they please.

Of course, this is a consequence of the standards or romcom/dramadies. If the story was more focused, more tightly paced, Kusonoki's past would be getting more of a spotlight.

>>281478382
This doesn't count. She's more of a heorine than any of the girls.

>>281472913
>Looks like today will end with me in this happy mood.
Poor guy's happiness didn't last too long.

>>281473472
The aftermath of the last arc had Kusunoki realizing that Keisuke is special for her. With him coming close to realizing the same thing. Plus, Moe's upcoming arc seems to be about romance so there is obviously going to be more development in that department for both of them.
There is no need to rush. It's slow but there is progress.
>>281475166
Why would you assume that? Seriously, there is nothing to indicate the author is that kind of person.

>>281478257
All she has to do is wait for him to get his heart brocken again

>>281473008
Of course, having a girl with tragic circumstances is all that it takes. People love cute girls getting molested, but more than that people love the idea of saving cute girls who are getting molested.

>>281479003
I found the stepdad subplot to be totally unnecessary, she was already an interesting character before that reveal.

>>281478193
The only web app that hosts kusunoki that also has its comment section is magapoke and it doesnt have many comments in it (at least for the newer chapters), they were harsher to her but that was like 20 chapters ago.

>>281479077
>she was already an interesting character before that reveal.
I more or less agree, but getting raped gives a girl a mass appeal.

>>281479003
>>281479128
Nah, if that were true, Sakura wouldn't have been the runt of the Fate fanbase for a decade, maybe two.

Snek's appeal comes from being smugly, unapologetically, but redeemably evil. The stepdad thing isn't the sort of saving we're interested in for her character. If anything, I'd rate it a net demerit due to cuckposters and plot opportunity costs.

Kusunoki has all the screentime and all the moments with Shizuki by a lot and she badly lost to Hebi who disappeared around Moe intro arc and wasn't around that much during cultural festival arc and also to Moe whose personality revolves around calling Kusunoki Ojousama and be the first to fall in love to Shizuki, author really fucked up her character so much because keeping her traumatic past in secret for so long is more important.

>>281475222
At this point it's probably just going to be something along the lines of the boys started liking her so the girls started bullying her

>>281473008
The problem is that Kuzunoki feels more like a trophy than an actual character, Snek wants to break her and MC wants to help her but she herself is kinda just standing there while the plot happens between the other two

>>281478095
The character development made her a shallow good girl, at first she was socially awkward, her motives were unclear, it looked like she just tries to make a move on Shizuka. Then turned out there is nothing behind the image of a good girl

P-please notice her

>>281480461
That seems to be what the hints are pointing toward.

>>281480514
She got to be relatively proactive last arc, which led to some good reactions from the other two. Now it looks like Moe's coming to her for romantic advice, so she might get to do something again this arc.

>>281480519
Snek is that you posting?

>>281477329
>Third on her own manga
Kwab
Has there ever been a manga where the main heorines was the least popular?

>>281480658
>She got to be relatively proactive last arc
The arc was mostly her being cute and dealing with a new character, once again completely isolated from what's going on between snek and MC

>>281473008
>twitter comments survey
DOES'T COUNT

>>281480649
Pink hair doesn't fit he design at all. She seems like a blonde.

>>281481324
Pink is basically anime blond, but making the eyes pink too is a bit much.

>>281480842
That's a reductive way to describe it. The arc served as a highlight for Kusunoki's development by giving her challenges that she overcame on her own. It was necessary to show that all that time with Shizuki did improve her. She gained a friend in the process and two in the aftermath. It also resulted in Shizuki realizing he is considered special to her despite how much they started to drift apart from each other.

Ririsa is such a cute first name for Hebicute. Much better than Shizuka and Moe and especially Sawa Irie

>>281481592
And all of that is still a skippable sideplot, MC still like her but won't confess, snek still wants to break her, Pink's still not sure about her feelings for MC, MC still doesn't trust snek, essentially the same status quo as before

>>281480461
Would be more interesting if it was the other way around - she rejected him, only having thought of him as a friend, and her friends started bullying him.

>>281481921
How is the premise of the manga a skippable sideplot?
>essentially the same status quo as before
Shizuki is assured that even with Kusunoki gaining friends she won't leave him. Kusunoki is starting to realize her feelings for Shizuki, as well as showing she is able to handle social situations on her own. Hebikawa is shown to be far from the manipulative genius that people think she is as well as her starting to manifest feelings for Shizuki. And Irie got introduced with a small character arc for herself.

>>281478095
We Never Learn? Forgot the nip title.

Reminder once again that snek did NOTHING wrong and MC was a little bitch.

>everyone ignores the dude or treats him like shit because he *is* shit
>girl tries to be nice to him
>her friends are badmouthing the dude and all she does is go along with the group one time and agree
OH. MY. SCIENCE. THIS IS MIND RAPE AND MC HAS THE RIGHT TO BREAK THE 4TH WALL AND FORCE THE AUTHOR TO MAKE SNEK GET LITERALLY, UNIRONICALLY ASS RAPED TO DEATH BY HER MOM'S BOYFRIEND.

>>281473008
Of course she is. She's the only girl with a mind of her own and is also the hottest by a mile.

>>281478382
Olivia was fucking garbage. An empty void of personality, just the platonic ideal of a perfect otome MC who's perfect in every way. The villainess was good until she got paired up with Olivia and they turned into conjoined twins.

Them being completely obliterated by the first girl with actual character was an no surprise, it was an inevitability.>>281478543

>>281482121
Cope, the snake, just liked to play with her prey

Was re-reading the older chapters and I think Hebi's look peaked in around chapter 20s, idk why but i feel there's a bit of decline of the way she's drawn from the newest chapter. Even before she had her scheme blown out to her face, she just doesn't have that scheming aura anymore

>>281481921
Nah, the way Kusunoki got to demonstrate her growing independence is now forcing both of them to confront that her platonic excuse for clinging to Shizuki may just be an excuse. It's destabilizing the status quo and pushing her toward whatever trauma is keeping her from admitting she's interested in Shizuki romantically.

What is Snek's preferred position for sex?

>>281482377
Seated in the corner

>>281477329
Did anybody write Takagaki?

>>281482684
Don't think so.

>>281473008
> end practically every volume with exclusive Snek content
> act surprised afterwards
She's playing dumb, right?

>>281482684
Who?

>>281483231
Hebikawa before she was Hebikawa.

>>281483057
I think she expected people to only start liking her once she shows her more vulnerable side to Shizuki.

>>281483250
Oh right.

>>281482121
Her obsession with her image and popularity clearly isn't normal in any case.

>Main girl unapologetically and unambiguously friendzones the MC
>Scene straight out plays like a dramatic break up
>Surprised that people move on from that possible romance route to the snake or Moe or any other possible available option
Like what the fuck did they author expect by that?
You don't pull that shit in a romcom with love rivals, you are just handing out the win to any of the other girls with that shit.
Did the author really understimated the appeal of the other rivals or did she just wanted to pair up with MC with someone else?

>>281485122
It's not uncommon for MC to date a different girl than the final winner before in romcoms/drama

>>281485167
>Used goods

>>281487415
Women don't likes virgins anyway

total hebi domination
mc needs to take responsibility and knock her up

>>281478382
I have never understood Marie's popularity. She's okay but even other "villainesses" mogs her

>>281489227
She is not even a villain, so I have to guess lolifags?

>>281489227
Probabaly because author made all of the girls irrelevant while focusing on just her

>>281489227
When your villainess has more chemistry than two of your heroines, you clearly have a problem.
Also the author admittedly revealed that writing her and the MC was so easy, even he was surprised.

>>281485122
I think the author actually overestimated the appeal of Kusunoki's character. She's cute but why would I be rooting for her to overcome her "dating bad" phase and end up with MC? We all know that it will happen eventually but right now the stakes are just too low for me to care. Thus I welcome Hebi, Moe and Irie or anyone in the game.

>>281485167
It's rare in shounen/seinen HS romcoms.

If Irie were introduced earlier, Kusunoki would find a way to be even less popular than her

>>281473008
>Jap's shit taste showing that they're into trash people
Never changes

>>281482377
Prone bone so she doesn't have to look at daddy's face

Kusunoki's Flunking Her High School Glow-Up seems like a very apt title considering she also flunks her own popularity maybe she's always written like this

>>281473008
She may be more popular, but she's meant for stepdad cock.

>>281473260
t.snake's stepfather.

>>281489227
Yomu is a used goods NTR obssessed faggot so Marie being a bitch and having actual agency won people over

>>281493022
Most readers like snek, not just the japanese.

>>281480845
it's more sovlful because it's not as simple as just choosing the option poll, you need to actually type the choice and some also included the reason why.

>>281492874
It's only less common in modern shonen.

>>281489227
It's not until the second arc that we get a decent heroine. Ange and whats her name are kinda below average.

>>281499887
Everything past the 1st arc is garbage.

>>281492884
Irie only has her design going for her.

>>281478382
what's this phenomen called? there's quite a few villainess that you're meant to hate that end up becoming far more popular than even the mc

>>281500153
"I can fix her"?

>>281500153
She is not even a villainess.

>>281490998
Problem with her is that she's a fake unpopular girl. She's attractive, nice and good at almost everything. Would be better if she had more girl failure traits.

>>281501377
I mean she's clearly holding back and you could do interesting stuff with that. I'm still waiting for a character flaw.

>>281473008
tomboy midget doesn't stand a chance
maybe don't introduce her as main girl's lackey

>>281502534
>the lackey is more popular than the ojousama

>>281475290
Are you referring to the character chart?

>>281499939
Just her tits

>>281503430
which is better than whole Kusunoki

>>281499924
And despite that we don't get a decent heroine until the 2nd arc.

I'm a simple man: i see evil women, i like
I guess most of Japan shares my taste as well

>>281501377
She was meek as hell and easy prey for jealous bitches (such as snek).

>>281503425
>Brown easy going tomboy
Happiness is RIGHT THERE but he'll never pick it, it's always either the boring or dangerous routes

>>281504230
Snek lost to her pureness

>>281503425
>Kusonoki considers Shizuki her best friend, not Moe.
Damn, she breaking everyone's heart.

>>281503425
>>281504598
>easy-going
Actually kinda sensitive about her height and looks, but that just makes it better, depending on your tastes.

>>281504230
Pages like that feel really weird in this manga since snek is not really wrong about her there but the story paints her as being wrong, at best you could say Kusunoki is not intentionally doing it so she's still innocent but then again she did intentionally gave herself a make over for her HS debut and MC pretty much ignored her when she was in her ugly duckling phase

>>281505909
It doesn't. The story doesn't cast judgement on how the social conventions work, it just presents it as it is. It's the reason why Kusunoki asked for Shizuki's help. She wanted to change the way others perceive her and even in the previous chapter we got a glimpse into that with Irie's friends.
What the story paints as wrong is Hebikawa's inability to self-reflect and recognizing that people can be good.

>>281506323
I think just like as with Kusonoki and the mystery boy, we need to see the past of Hebikawa and her parents fallout before we finally get what's going on her brain. The idol thing fell like symptom of her problem rather than the cause.

>>281505509
> depending on your tastes
Punks seemingly like Moe.

>>281505308
kusunoki doesn't consider moe a friend

>>281507728
Either that or she didn't consider Moe to be a girl. Another option would be that the author just pulled Moe out of her ass after this specific chapter.

>>281507104
We already saw it with her kindergarten friend. That's just how her personality is. The idol was just validation for her beliefs.

>>281507728
wow snek might be right about her being secretly manipulative

>>281507943
Yeah but we still don't know why her family fell apart. It could be a red herring, say dad died and mom eventually remarried without drama or there could be more.

Snek should just rape Shizuki

>>281508212
I bet that'll get Kusonoki to reveal her true colours.

>>281507728
>>281507873
I think she just means after the trauma isolated her. Moe had also been gone from her life for years at this point. It's kinda funny that >>281503425 omits friendship arrows between them though. I guess it's only depicting their relationships to Shizuki in the center, otherwise it'd need an arrow for snek's obsession with Kusunoki too.

>>281503425
>mob
I still love the fact that Shizuki blew her the fuck out. She's so disrespectful so it's nice to see him wave her off.

>>281505308
> Damn, she breaking everyone's heart.
I guess that's what happened with that mysterious CF as well. Maybe he committed suicide after being rejected by her. That would be a convenient excuse for her character to shift from extrovert to introvert.

>>281509244
Assuming Kusonoki does have a 'bad' side, it'll probabaly if him who breaks her theory of everyone is only fake theory if she finds out that he's moved on from her while probabaly helping her out with her step-dad or other problem like he did with the cake.

I'm still debating on what the best outcome will be with Hebi's plan with exposing Kusonoki's "bad" side like either:
She exposes Kusonoki's bad side but she doesn't feel very triumphant about it because now Shizuki hates her, like, he's not traumautised by her anymore he just outright hates her, which breaks her because at this point she does have romantic feelings for him
OR
Kusonoki doesn't have a "bad" side and this mindbreaks Hebi until Shizuki comforts her and helps her realise that her way of thinking regarding other people was wrong

>>281510561
I think that the second option is much more interesting and also the most likely outcome. If Kusunoki had this dark side it would just confirm Hebi's prejudice which leads to nothing. But if she's just a dork, that shows at least some hints of a human flaw without any malice, that will surely make Hebi question her ways even further. Ideally Hebi will drop her protective fake persona and help Kusunoki overcome those anxiety issues. Might be wishful thinking since I just want to see her being able to tease Keisuke afterwards.

>>281510561
Third option, just like how she took Shizuki not falling for her as easily as she thought personally, she's going to lose focus on Kusonoki. Maybe not entirely in the sense she stops getting bothered by her, but she would be more motivated by getting Shizuki, after she falls for him.

>>281499887
I guess watching it for best girl isn’t worth it after all

>>281512962
You should drop it after first arc, but if you're going to continue, don't follow for it the girls. Follow it for MC and the robots antics primialry.

>>281508094
I don't think there is a big story around it. Could be that both just got tired of each other. In the end, it is a setup for the step-dad side plot.

>>281513340
I think her little ritual over eating cake alone on her birthday probabaly is a bit of throwback for her to days she hold fondly. How her dad left and her current relationship with her step dad is probabaly connected.

Hebikawa is the best thing about this manga

>>281504598
moe will win once she grows her hair out
trust the plan

>>281512860
Fourth option, Irie makes her father draft Hebi, Kusunoki and Moe as an idol group.

>>281514379
Moe actually is the wild card who could shake up the trio

>>281514394
Doubt she's even going to have any focus after this arc

>>281514379
By the time her hair is long enough, all of the cast will have graduated