Thread 281502092

Would you play wingwoman for your isekai’d subordinate?

100 chapters in.

You know what? This is good academy goodshit, but it wouldn't be wrong to call it romcom too (with a really sweet romance). The world building is nothing to write home about, and there are little to no action scenes whatsoever, and it's mostly slice of life with some plot. BUT!

The main selling point is the characters, which are really fun, especially mc. She is like a Bakarina in her seemingly easy-going lifestyle of being oblivious of her surroundings, but unlike Bakarina, who is a total moron, she proves herself to be quite capable using the power of asking for help from others to save human lives; she has those strong modern person morals, which transfer nicely into her being the heroine of the story... who is completely shameless and has a fuck ton of charisma. She is among the top charismatic heroines I have read without going into psychopath territory.

Oh, and her chemistry with the male lead is great. And the story avoids that thing where characters' lives revolve exclusively around mc, by giving them appropriate pairings.

Verdict: Shall must continue reading

>>281502167
>Shall must continue reading
MTLbros it keeps happening

chink gaybending monoslop

>>281502167
>korean
>gb
*vomits*

>>281502283
MC owes kot sex

Let's say you could summon any character from any media as your companion; who would that be?

>>281502369
It's not cool to have sex with retards tho, no matter how cute and smol she is

>>281502092 (OP)
According to Jessica it's very fun and I agree.

>>281502414
The single digit iq stare.

>>281502424
matches her INT

>>281502414
yes it is

>the grandfather in the top panel looks like the chad from the "yes" meme
the internet has ruined me

You guys better not be racist, or else

>>281502494
are subhumans a race?

>>281502423
Isekai?

>>281502167
it's a funny thing with one way gay stories like this, but for whatever reason I don't like it when the genderbent male is the MC if their love interest is a guy despite not caring if they aren't the MC
like if the MC is a guy and his love interest is a guy who turned female that's a-ok, but when the GB female is the MC it just feels like soft yaoi which I have no tolerance for

Slideboards

Should heroines keep their horny imoutos away from MCs?

>>281502734
>Camille
sounds like a girl’s name

>>281502734
source!

>>281502780
The Ojou Who Finally Scored

>>281502846
>sex
dropped

>>281502846
The schizo who finally scored

>>281502846
Somehow I knew it was her

>>281502846
Why does she look unsatisfied?

I dont want to have sex I just want to level up and improve my gear

>>281502894
Can't level up your penis, your best anti-women weapon, without sex.

>>281502434
It's statutory rape.

>>281502932
this but also it's retard abuse

!

>>281502981
>MC that just wants to stay out of trouble
>Ojou trying to drag him into the plot
I wish I could find more of this dynamic.

>>281502981
I want to lick ojou thighs

>>281502846
>>281502981
From the last thread.
Oh? she actually quit the navy?
At least he has a good command officer if he ever expands the fleet enough to need one.

>>281502981
I have spaceship schizo fatigue

>>281503041
>she actually quit the navy?
She mostly did after the marriage. She's a noble officer so she can still be drafted in case of big war.

>>281503237
Who's the first wife?

>>281503060
>I have mino fatigue
what did he mean by this

OJOU!

>>281503368
They look like they fuck commoners

>>281503250
Formally Chris.

>>281503390
I'm assuming Serena is the second?

>>281503389
funnily, most of them actually don't

>>281502167
isn't this GAY?

>>281503415
the ones pushing GB usually are, yes

>>281502932
not in isekai

>>281503256
I have fatigue...

>>281503389
>>281503410
Although, I just realized that for Angie you should probably count Livia instead of Leon, so it depends on the fourth one from the left, which I don't know.

>>281503497
yeah because mino is shilling that series every single day

>metaslurper hours
I sleep

>>281503396
Yep. Elma is the 3rd.

>>281503368
I guess Rose and Ana dont qualify?

>>281503368
I find the ojous lack of drills disturbing

>>281503368
>>281503687
>no scene of an ojou's maid brushing her ojou's hair straight only for it to snap back into its drills from sheer ojou energy

>>281503535
>mfw I don't even know what you're talking about thanks to filters working as intended

>>281502494
Those dirty savages don't have a place among us, the high elves

>>281503623
Nah, just can't find good Anna pics.
I want to add Rose but can't decide between Rose, Alpha or Claire.

for me it's reverse trap ojou

>>281503788
that's a man

>>281503788
She can be fixed if the mc just say "you don't have to be strong when you have someone like me"
Then it's all sex for the next week

>>281503788
that's a girl?!

>>281503788
That's a male

>>281503781
>just can't find good Anna pics.
Check that chapter after the duel when allen gets summoned to the manson along with his mom. Think it was like chapter 24 or 25
>I want to add Rose but can't decide between Rose, Alpha or Claire.
Rose is the blond, (former) long haired ojou so it would fit with the others

>>281503842
unfortunately you can't take the japan out of the japenis

>>281503910
Cant take Britain and their bad food out of the british.
Source: every isekai set in not!-europe

>>281503788
Whoa

>>281503517
I wish I had the patience and sheer bloody mindedness to shill series I like.

>>281503237
Thanks.

>>281502383
>Choosing shitty kot
Retard
>Choosing Sam
Based

>>281504029
I wish I had a series I liked....

bitch fuck off
she just suddenly forgot about her actual boyfriend and started getting wet for her ex-boyfriend

>japenis mc
I sleep

Tsuki ga...

New EPUB for The Protagonist's Group Has No Chill, based on a rip of the official TL (which is unedited AI, but it's better than Novelight and DarkMTL's unedited AI, so there's that).

Changes from the base rip
>added illustrations page as per previous EPUB (used full resolution illustrations instead of the downscaled ones used in the older EPUB which bloated the file to 90MB)
>fixed some of the chapter titles
>changed Fangriphon to Fangriffon because autism

https://files.catbox.moe/jgd5na.epub

>>281504218
nai

>>281502167
Might give it a try however you need to read living loving maid right now if you think bakarina is stupid. She is a supreme maid

>>281504196
I can't stand Gab Songs melodramatic ass writing.

>>281502511
Yes, Jessica's story is isekai.

>>281504225
>Noooo you must spell griffon the worst way.
Great it's even worse than before. Oh well.

>>281504247
Jessica?

>>281504312
Yes.

Has there ever been an isekai where the human army is actively trying to fight the demon lord instead of the demon lord just being some vague threat that barely exists and isn't actually evil?

>>281504199
>british anon complaining again

>>281504350
chiyu mahou?

>>281504357
Not the brit m8

>>281504296
Nobody spells it griphon, it's gryphon, griffon or griffin. Fangryphon or Fangriffon are fine, I went with Fangriffon because that's what Fenrir used. You can change it yourself pretty easily to your preference.

>>281504196
I think some comments were saying she got dumped too, so maybe she's coming crawling back again
honestly if she randomly died offscreen right now it would be better, there's nothing good with where her trope is going

>>281504247
There's no isekai, filthy liar.

>>281504196
What if it was all a misunderstanding?

I... Don't really care for isekai and all my favorite stuff here is native. At best the isekaijin should be a distant background character like MHATTKM

>>281504380
You've already confessed to it before.

>>281504196
>ex-boyfriend
used goods!?

Just a few month breh until i become a sage.

>Adventurer's Guild
Where are the other guilds
Craftsmen, Healers, etc

>>281504634
merchant

CF will only bring misfortune to you and anyone around you.

>>281504799
>Thanks to the many members of the Merchants Guild generously bankrolling our SSS+ Rank Adventurer party

>>281504405
>Character dies
>Reborn in another world
>ISEKAI? WHERES THE ISEKAI. THIS ISNT ISEKAI RIGHT GUYS?
what causes this kind of mental illness?

>>281504877
That part of the chair above his head looks like a buttplug

>>281504381
I listen to it in tts so I don't care

>>281504535
This series is ass

>>281504913
None of this happens in trails.

>>281502893
she didnt get completely blown out, destroyed and left dripping all kinds of fluids from her gaping holes
and now he is just lying there sleeping

>>281504935
based non-reader

>>281504880
which one is the CF?

>>281503390
Wasn't Hiro already married with Elma and Mimi on the books during v7?

Lord of the Rings is isekai.

>>281504196
Definitely the dumbest part of VWTL
It doesn't even go anywhere so what's the point?

>>281505052
Definitely Mimi and not Chris. Can't remember if Elma at same time as Mimi or not

Optimal isekai pacing is one betrayal plus one new harem member per 31 chapter.

>>281504314
>royalty BAD
>>281504799
>guild BAD
pre-empting
>church BAD

Your wife's imouto is always the most dangerous threat.

>>281505144
>chapter 31: harem member betrays
>chapter 32: harem member re-joins
>chapter 62: harem member betrays (again)
>chapter 63: harem member re-joins (again)
Something like that?

>>281505007
The one with smaller tits duh

>>281505052
With Mimi. But that was only for legal reasons and according to Serena's father there is some clause concerning one's marriage before becoming a noble which allowed Hiro to marry Chris, Serena and Elma. I suppose Mimi is still considered as one of his wives.

>>281505236
Can he marry the Mei too?

>>281505153
What if Church is just Cleric Guild
And your local priest needs to do X amount of miracles to get to Gold Rank

>>281503725
what's your filter?

>>281504452
I'm not the guy.

>>281504535
I'm the same age...

>>281505339
senior citizen...

>>281505329
That's exactly what the guy would say

>>281505153
You forgot
>military BAD
>family BAD
>party? BAD

>>281505391
I'm the guy.

>>281504199
given the fact gooks and chinks have this too, I don't think it's fair to single out Japs

>>281505556
Boom, you're a girl now dawg. Now off you go to the Academy, your state-mandated male lead is waiting.

>Eng scan is fucking dead
>Viet scan is still going strong
Our SEA friends are truly formidable

>>281505153
>Average Birth rates in democracy : <0.3
>Average Birth rates in theocratic - monarch countries: >4
*Drops the mic and walks away while the mc empire dies because said japenis only heir suicides after realizing he has his very small penis, MC was too busy working 24/7 instead of properly teaching him how to be man, not that the MC japenis knows *
:^)

>>281505884
Was she raped or not?

There are plenty of good reasons for an MC to put off sex. Few of those are ever used by writers.

>>281505813
>Academy
yuck
>State-mandated
double yuck
>male lead
triple yuck

>>281505985
Few isekai MCs think about long term consequences like that.

>>281506121
Your opinion is irrelevant. The state has decided everything for you.

>>281506094
Name 4

>>281506285
Sex is overrated.
Sex is inferior to killing things.
Sex is inferior to drugs.
Sex is for low iq.

>Tribal tomboy elf
Wew, good thing polygamy is legal

>>281506248
I reject the state!

>>281504225
>Still not Van Griffon
It's trash

Hm, wasn't Frey's name actually Pray, and Ferloche actually Perloche? But the novelpia release also has Frey. Did they edit that, or did Genesis just so thoroughly fuck the machine learning for his name? Ferloche is correctly named Perloche though, so I guess he former?

>>281506285
>hold hands first before sex with cf
>hug first before sex with cf
>dating first before sex with cf
>marriage first before sex with cf
mc must do all those before sex

ENTER

>>281506676
I'll grant you the first one, the rest are BS

>>281507188
It's the Generic Goons of the Copypasted Realm!

>>281507152
Both names are decided by the whims of our lord and savior, MTL-sama

>>281507152
p/f are the same sound in Korean

>>281507246
Pretty sure pre-edit N-global had Prey

>>281507348
because p/f are the same sound in Korean

>>281507397
>limited phonetic inventory
>no explicit pronouns
it's like they almost engineered Korean to be hard for machine translations

I hate localizers.
J-novel faggots

>>281507483
Is it a reference to something I'm not aware of?

>>281507443
From my limited experience Japanese is even worse, korean is a simple language to translate meanwhile japanese is out there where some directly translated words are completely impossible to decipher

>>281507516
Ren faire is some modern gay tiktok slang for those medieval festivals

What's the edgiest story setup you've ever seen in isekai?

>>281504225
Thanks, anon.
>>281504233
>fanfic
>>281505884
>D. Gray-Man
Ah, man, no wonder I was always bothered by all these Allen shitposts.

>>281507544
last time i've encountered use of "ren faire" was like 15 years ago and i've never seen "those medieval festivals" be called anything else.

One month to go.
Start WRITEing for your chance at a LN deal.
It has to start with earth events and the exposition shouldn't be too long or complex at the start.
Seems they want a goody 2 shoes mc as well so edgelords will likely not win.

https://mhwc.myanimelist.net/202507/

>>281507683
Maybe I'll start writing slop when I'm made redundant in 3 months

>>281507672
Either way its a beyond horrible translation

>>281507672
I saw it on tiktok first and tiktok bad so j novel bad

>>281507597
Main Heroines Are Trying to Kill Me is a pretty edgy setup.

>>281507780
It was always called renaissance fairs. Ren faire is newspeak shit. J-novel shill

>>281507861
its the same shit with fewer letters

>>281507683
What are earth events

>>281506152
>MC has an harem
>Only 1 child with each wife
>there is a death match- succession war for the title Since japenis has become a nobleman and didn't properly take look at the succession because too scare to do anything, only 1 child must survives
And this is why you must hunt down the japenis in Isekai

>>281507888
No it isnt lolcowlizer

>>281507893
events on earth

>>281507931
I don't like earth

Just finished Yi Tian Mountain in RI (it's Isekai right?) I get the praise now

>>281507861
>2004

>>281507908
step 1: become immortal god-emperor of the world
step 2: abolish monarchy and retire into slow life

>>281507683
>community engagement is a judging criteria
>penalized if you release all chapters at once rather than on consistent schedule
fuck that

>>281508268
No, fuck YOU.

How come DQ is so much more influential on Isekai compared to other JRPg series like final fantasy?

>>281507861
It probably wasn't even a reference to renaissance festivals, you think some rando web novel author has such life experience on them? Plus it's probably a japanese reincarnator who also has zero experience with renaissance festivals.

>>281508424
It's much older and simpler and has character designs done by Toriyama.
The first wave of isekai gor inspiration from DQ and the rest of isekai got inspiration from other isekai.

>>281507544
Renaissance faire. Millennials would shorten it to ren faire. It's nothing new.

Based maid laying it out to harem enablers.

>>281508493
>The first wave of isekai gor inspiration from DQ
No, the first wave of isekai got inspiration from various fantasy stories. Then came the more directly RPG inspired waves. Then you started getting the waves of incestuous regurgitation.

>>281508574
Once again proving that maids are dogshit epitome of human trash and should be genocided.

>>281508395
what

>>281508424
Can I get examples?

>>281508582
>No, the first wave of isekai got inspiration from various fantasy stories
Name three

>>281507931
What if I was born in china?

>>281507683
So it has to be earth? You can't do fantasy world A to fantasy world B?

>>281508669
Just say the thing

>>281508669
Literally anything featuring Demon Lord(tm) getting clapped by The Hero(tm) after assembling The Party(tm) is DQ-related. DQ first put this whole scenario in it's modern shape and pull these specific terms into circulation.

>>281508686
Escaflowne
Familiar of Zero
MT

>>281508733
They definitely want earth to isekai, crop rotation, water pumps and buckets of soup and all.

>>281506285
Not right now.
Maybe later.
A little busy.
How about tomorrow?

>>281508796
Best I can do is carp rotation and fried rice as delicacy. Maybe some cocoa as new crop.

>isekai world has none of the familiar earth crops you know
wat do?

>>281505077
It was going to go somewhere until the massive negative feedback

>>281508927
Burn the fields and force the vegetables to evolve.

>>281508927
Ignore it as much as possible and do non-food related crap as originally planned

>>281508781
Doesn't help. That sounds very N word and not an isekai plot. It's so influential but giving multiple examples is somehow too hard.

I wonder how much Xianxia and Wuxia is influenced by the Chinese Warlord period

>>281509074
Read more isekai.

>>281509074
racist

>>281502893
He couldn't get a boner from her, so she's still a virgin.

>>281509143
It obviously wasn't, there are no examples and all similarities are coincidental.

So I think we can conclude DQ does not have any remarkable influence on Isekai.

>>281509323
Glad to know you and the voices inside of your head have reached a conclusion

>>281509143
Chinese fiction being influenced by Chinese history? what a childish fantasy.

>>281509339
I mean, can you name some examples?

>>281509143
Japs are influenced by chinese stories, chinks are influenced by indians ones then change them e.g. son wukong, buddhism,

so is Murim just watered down Wuxia?

villainisekai should always steal the main heorine

>>281502414
So has there been any stories where the ditsy girls gets boned by the MC?

>>281509491
sadly no

>>281508795
This + El Hazard precedes them all (sort of)

>>281509403
Murim is technically a setting, while wuxia is a genre, I think.

>>281509403
It's just a korean wuxia setting.

>>281509491
The bnnuy in Arifureta is pretty dumb

ISEKAI WITH SEGS????????????????

>>281509596
>Reincarnated as a city guard and female adventurers offer sex in exchange for smuggling contraband

>>281509596
I know an isekai with eggs if that helps

>>281509719
I will screenshot this post and show it to your mom.

>>281509752
I don't think she knows what isekai is

>>281505859
It got picked up by resetscan/utoon but only up to ch4 currently

>>281506676
>does drugs
>thinks he's high IQ
oh the iron knee

>>281509143
Isekai?

LOL

>>281509963
>resetscan/utoon
Would've been better off never getting picked up

>>281509491
There are dumb girl MC's who get boned.

https://www.novelupdates.com/series/how-to-achieve-a-perfect-ending-after-entering-a-messed-up-world/
LMFAO? is this a degrees of lewdity fanfic? someone's been very naughty, peeking at western ero games outside of the great firewall

>>281508424
DQ is more popular with normalfags and isekai is primarily written by and for normalfags

>>281510173
ching chong ping pong.

>>281510173
The author is just playing a life sim set in the UK

>>281507683
I'd have no clue what to WRITE about under those constraints, same problem I had last month. I'm also cutting too close, it's frankly too late if you hope to build up community engagement.

>>281510173
You will never know the relief I feel knowing the western ero game I worked on died from catastrophic mismanagement so I'll never have to see even the suggestion of fanfic.

At least they don't seem to be aware of what that involved.

How is these slop get popular enough to get a manga adaption?

At least they don't seem to be aware of what that involved.

>>281510708
i saw that

>>281510708
Don't like that he is acting so bashful after he already had sex.

>>281510708
He looks like that beta annoying shota noble that can see stats.

>>281510872
Having sex doesn't change your entire personality

>>281510708
I'm surprised anyone can read this dogshit far enough to make it to the elf twins

>>281510909
>I need more time to consider your marriage proposals seriously.
>this after having sex with them

>>281511004
That part makes him cross the line into scum.

>>281511031
Whatever happened that night was their idea, and wouldn't forcing them off there be bad too?

>>281511110
You sound like a cuck apologist.

>>281510173
Is it, though? I kind of doubt that.

>>281511203
read the description, and then read through the links on this wiki page https://degreesoflewdity.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Love_Interests

>>281511139
shut the fuck up cuckfag

>>281507188
The solution.

>>281511501
>guns
dropped

the boat isekai get worse and worse every chapter

>>281511501
>5 foot 4
>110 lbs
>Somehow will use it without recoil taking into effect

>>281511587
Now name it.

>>281511587
Das Boot Isekai when?

>>281511031
I'm ready for 'walked them home gently' ridicule, but I think that damage to his character is part of the reason the only thing that happened here was the rubbing and kissing.
The WN doesn't really hint at anything past that (getting more "blessings", the same way he did with other characters earlier).
If something beyond that did happen, you'd have to believe that he got them back in their clothes after the fact and gave them the lecture shown in this chapter.
On balance, I think that color page last chapter was just thrown in to drum up sales.

>>281511659
I die and reincarnated in other world, I have been granted a boat summoning skill and now I have slave harem

>>281502167
>>281502246
>lose to cock GB
I wish I can drop it without even picking it up

>>281511282
Mother of mercy...

>>281509283
Well there are no examples of China ever having actually powerful sects of cultivation, but you could make the argument the power of sects resemble the warlord cliques
Also do you seriously think authors in the 50s and 60s were not influence by the history of their childhood or parents?
>>281509339
I mean sure, but I'd like to be sure that's the case
>>281510047
Xianxia is on topic

>>281511654
There is magic involved too.

>>281512122
I wanna do things to that skinny devil there

Native isekai

>>281512108
>>281512108
>powerful sects of cultivation
Taoist and Buddhist sects irl, and also countless local unorthodox ones
>the power of sects resemble the warlord cliques
warlords cliques are nothing new in china history, you clearly only know about 19th century china or sth
Cultivation is a combination of various tropes in chinese history and culture,
The mysticism of Taoist and other religions
The clans political intrigue with rigid social hierarchy
The irl martial art schools, which is already very prominent with the rise of wuxiao
And the desire to rape and tear to heart content

>>281511772
I'm expecting the extra pages in that volume to confirm no sex happened, at least for the manga. This page could still happen if stopped them from going that far, but there's no way to know yet whether it was an immediate demand to get dressed again, or if he waited until later, or if they got him out of his clothes first too. The color page almost looks like they might have started adding nipples, but I'm not expecting that to have changed yet either. This was volume 3 though. https://litter.catbox.moe/fj9hxtsoalszreud.jpg
The WN isn't completely clear what happens although it lasts until morning.

>>281512461
>Taoist and Buddhist sects irl, and also countless local unorthodox ones
Sure but they were not politically powerful
>warlords cliques are nothing new in china history, you clearly only know about 19th century china or sth
Warlord era is 20th century and I would say that they are new in Chinese history

>>281512461
>IRL Cultivators then: Fucked lolis to "graft their jing"
>IRL Cultivators now: State-mandated "tai chi" in the park
What went wrong?

>>281509573
she should gain 30kg

>>281512806
*300kg

>>281512739
>>281512461
Neither are isekai

>>281512806
>all these fat demi/monstergirls
>still no BBWunny
WHERE'S THE FLABBITS, METH?

>>281512945
shut up

>>281512108
>Xianxia is on topic

>>281511110
No.

>>281512980
Its just going to be a fatty with bunny ears and a tail... does the bunny part really matter at that point?

Nudist elves

>long parted black hair
>cold and crazy personality
I see him everywhere I look... And I still miss him. Is this where eternity lies?

I would die so fast to a poisonous fruit if I got isekaied with no prep.

>>281510080
They replaced the nameless guard by a named character? Lame, because the girl is probably stronger than Guard A, there isn't enough karmaKINO. Just "getting easily blocked by a girl" isn't really that impressive in such settings most of the time.

>>281510080
>>281513552
Oh wait, is that girl actually his own party member? Eh...

>>281513597
She's the tank which downgrades it a little harder because she was already demonstrated to tank attacks effortlessly. If it were one of the other cuties like the witch it'd hold more weight.

>>281513014
>le on topic
Oh no what will we do if they don't follow the general's rules? Shut up retard.

>>281513713
Generals don't show up enough in isekai. Imagine MacArthur himself (GBed) appearing out of nowhere to save the MC. It'd be enough to drench the SEA.

>>281513552
I think that page happened later on after Lloyd saves the town

>>281513765
Perry wanting to open the isekai gates

>>281513794
She looks like she needs rape correction

>>281509491
I'm having a hard time thinking of a series in general never mind fantasy and isekai. For non isekai I now of Mihoshi in Tenchi Muyo and Yurika in Nadesico.

>>281513713
Dont complain the next time someone posts some shoelacer or fantasy series or even worse one of those retarded ntr drama romcoms.

>>281513898
Can't always do much in some isekai.

>>281513552
Does the tank girl ever get her hand back?

>>281512622
Are you dense, every time a dynasty collapsed these warlords all pooped up like locusts
The end of Han and Three kingdoms is a prime example

>>281509491
in Yurufuwa Nouka no Mojibake Skill everyone is severely retarded

>>281512739
They still do it, only behind the scenes

>>281514134
In the anime she doesn't lose her hand

Holy…

>>281514013
>worst girl
she needs truck correction

>>281514186
I see.
In the manga (iirc) she gets her hand bitten off by a wolf.
Normally I wouldn't care but she ditched her party and actually tried to defend that town, even as a cripple so it feels a bit shit if she remains crippled.

>>281514214
If they are mono and they fuck regularly its not the worst fate.

>>281514305
The guy… was captured and put under a spell.

>>281512108
Wuxia mostly derived its settings from Water Margin, which took place in late Song dynasty period when central bureaucracy was a corrupted mess, lots of fugitives ran around forming bandit gangs or even starting full on rebellions, forcing local nobles and temples to run their own militia for defense. Also every cool guy with an epithet knows each other for some reason.
Sects and wuxia society are basically those with the unlawfulness removed and more martial art grinding added.

>>281510688
Nothing on google. Sauce?

That's it, I'm writing my OWN otomege villainess isekai for an actual game. I can't stand the fact it still doesn't exist.

>>281508243
So 90s Rance?

>>281502893
Seems to be a common thing that happens when Japs write post-sex scenes, the woman almost always looks unsatisfied or frustrated with her own thoughts while the dude is conked the fuck out. It's why I didn't like Kaguya's sex scene, it just screamed that the author has no idea what actual intimacy is like.

>>281515077
Wasn't that page practically a gag shot?

>>281514993
Wait so are writing a story for a game where you play as a villainess or story about the game where there is no villainess
I don't get it

>>281514729
>with the unlawfulness removed
In my experience the unlawfulness is usually kept in

>>281514700
Oh I thought it was just an accidental pet play kink reveal.

>>281514837
Like to go dumpster diving, do you?

It's Dungeon Gakuen no Teihen ni Tensei Shita kedo, Naze ka Ore ni wa Kouryaku Hon ga Aru

>>281515138
I'd be more liable to believe that it was a gag shot if so many post sex scenes written by nips weren't like that. Japs are just really bad with intimacy in general, dudes think anything aside from pumping one out while the girl starfishes is gay and gives them cooties. He's the customer, she's the prostitute. That's just the collective mindset over there.

>>281512108
The Ming cult https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_Cult arguably the original wuxia demonic sect was based loosely on Manichaeism as practiced in the late Song

>>281515077
It's the Japenis life

>>281515284
But I've seen them draw satisfying after sex scenes. Why doesn't it happen in stories that actually have sex depicted?

>>281515138
Consider that hacka got cucked and you realize it was no gag.

>>281503788
Is it the girl from the shit where a dude's mainl character trait was he hats his sister and for that he got extra generous isekai handouts?

something about "I isekaided in mountains"? Thing was so generic and without substance AI could have make it.

>>281515284
Pure projection

>>281510173
>66 chapters free
>164 chapters paywalled
why are WN scamlators always the greediest? Most manga scanlators who have scamwalls only put walls on maybe 1-2 chapters at a time at most if any.

>>281515208
Yes, villainess pov story

>>281515353
AI can't make chin fairies or slutmoutos

>>281514993
Make one for Edelgard. Hell Dimitri's route is basically an otomege

>>281515302
>Why doesn't it happen in stories that actually have sex depicted?
It definitely does, though you're right in that it is where the norm breaks down. I guess individuals willing to draw or write explicit smut are more likely to break from Japanese collective mindsets about how sex should be treated.

>>281515374
...And she's not really evil and the heroine is actually very evil, right?

>>281503936
This is a meme, I'd rather eat "British food" than Scandinavian slop.

>>281515415
No she's evil and she'll double down in being evil

>>281515408
I'd imagine it has more to do with editorial standards than your take on japanese gender relations

>cf betrays *weak but actually stronk* mc
>expect revenge or at the very least her getting her face rubbed in it when they meet again
>"it was all a misunderstanding! I only ever loved you!"
>mc shrugs it off and basically adds her into the harem
i hate this
i want to see her SUFFER
anon give me SUFFER kino NOW

>>281515451
HOLY BASED, the best kind of villainess

>>281515353
there are 3 men in this image

>>281515371
The only reason is that it took more time to do manga tl

>>281503788
The manga needs to show additional evidence that's a girl.

>>281515544
WN MTL takes no time at all

>>281515465
Oh, but I'm replying to sufferkino right now. Why would I ruin a good time seeing you wail at forgivenesskino?

>>281515544
The WN ones should be less time and effort considering the MTL doesn't need to be added to an image.

Brothers should always belong to their sisters

Holy kek. Someone went and translated this so soon? It's only been 3 days since Chapter 1 came out.

>>281515451
My man
At least keep her smug

>>281515648
I hated this.

>>281515708
Slideboard?

>>281515614
Older ojou sister being a toxic influence on her little brother and turning him from good guy to evil as she seduces him

>>281515790
Mommy issues, no fetish, get some help bro

>>281515768
Yes. I am the OG Lazy Villain shill anon but I am also the one who told everyone about the Bad End Heroine.

And Speaking of Slideboard The translation will come out either later or tommorow according to translator-kun

>>281515840
I'm actually retarded and forgot the actual name again, I also thought this was part of the slideboard series

>>281515577
>>281515596
Illiteratebros...

>>281503788
It's probably hopeless for the reverse trap connoisseurs, isn't it.

Isekai is a genre where everything's purpose is to wank a male MC selfinsert, reverse traps don't fit into it, the result will always be trash.

>>281515391
dude, that is exactly the stupid sort of trope permutation without thinking AI would do

>>281515822
Huh?

>>281515889
Here friend. https://mangadex.org/title/55f1461b-b2e2-479b-82b6-b7e6babee52b/rojiura-de-hirotta-onnanoko-ga-bad-end-go-no-otome-game-no-heroine-datta-ken

As for Slideboard, Translator said he was 1/3 done already so buckle up.

For a literal who newbie mangaka with only 22 Twitter followers and no prrvious works, his art looks pretty nice.

>>281503788
>>281515936
I mean, regular harem girls suffer from the same thing, but with a reverse trap character it's way more detrimental, they are more of a main character material.

>>281515936
Reverse traps are for submissive faggots who grew up without a father figure.

>>281515989
we don't need your AMAs

>>281515965
Thanks broski. Time to slide.

>>281516017
You need someone to tell you the truth. Stop being a faggot.

Happy dark elf slave.

>>281516037
takes one to know one posting is overrated

>>281515986
>it's the heroine and not the goddamn dindu villainess again
holy kino

Can you trust a demon lord CF?

>>281515989
meh, I just like tall girls with adult faces and short hair

Just think... The only thing separating you from sexo is one piece of fabric...
>>281516035
No problem bro.
>>281516086
Yes but unfortunately, the enemy is a Marie clone who also reincarnated into a literal who.

>>281516147
You can trust a plain demon lord more than anything with the cf title.

>>281493445
>Does anyone have epubs of Murim's crazy bitch chapters before it got nuked?

https://files.catbox.moe/jngow5.epub

>>281515986
>>281515965
>>281515840
>>281515708
>>281516174
>Bullied
>Torn clothed
High probability of being used goods

>fail academy entrance exam
Now what?

>>281516174
>pic
no. the answer is no.

>hunting your kin
This bnuy is traitor

>>281516174
I can physically feel the liviafag energy radiating off of this manga. Not complaining, but noticing.

>>281516216
How can she be used goods when this is the Bad End route though? Bas End ks in she does not get with any of the capture targets.
>>281516244
I dont blame him.

>>281516298
bad things happen in bad ends

>>281516241
Join the adventurers guild and fuck the guild girl

>>281516324
She's a hag OL. With glasses.

>>281516273
Its basically Livia but with someone who is willing have sex with her.

If Villager A is the Angelica Mono story then this is the Livia Mono story.

>>281516241
Become a genius by running away from the academy

>>281516366
MC does?

>>281516366
I will now read.

>>281516376
Not MC, his friends.

>>281516317
Nobody in their right mind would rape a student on broad daylight. Not even Royalty.

That said, the only Bad thing so far is the MC's disastrous haircut.

>>281516366
>Its basically Livia but with someone who is willing have sex with her.
Not Leon's fault she becomes a pain in the ass and an unlikeable love interest.

>>281516366
Based. I will read this unlike Villager A because I am a Liviafag. May the manga's ending inspire more heroine heroines.

>>281516410
>MC's disastrous haircut.
It's a Soma Cruz classic you philistine

>>281515986
>his art looks pretty nice
His art looks like the LN illustrator shared their CGI assets with them.

>>281516427
Wrong.

>>281516042
Angry dark elf princess.

>>281516173
God this series went to shit fast. Author really did not know what to do with their moment.

>>281516477
You know I'm right

>>281516493
I know you're right wrong in the head.

>>281516427
All Leon had to do is be a man and said she was hot, useful and sexy and all her worries would have gone away.
>>281516431
>>281516385
>>281516376
However, the downside is that the story overall is kinda meh.

villainess good
heroine bad

>>281516502
>I know you're right
Thank you for admitting it.
>>281516505
That requires Livia being interesting and not being a little whiny pathetic bitch.

>>281516505
Don't care
Livia monokino let's go

>>281516548
Only if villainess is actually smart and capable in addition to being sexy and dignified

>>281516594
>selective quoting
Sasuga Angiecuck. You don't know how to not be an annoying piece of shit.

>>281516451
>LN artist is famously know for his work in FGO, Vanguard, Punishing: Gray Raven and Cardfight Vanguard.
https://x.com/HEIRO_MAN
>Mangaka is a literal who who less than 25 Twitter followers
https://x.com/hinoenaga
Its not like I dont believe but why would the LN artist do this?
>>281516447
Yes and I think Soma has a bad hairstyle.

>>281516611
You will get bakarina 2.0 and you will like it

>>281516606
Get ready for Demure, Pushover girl romancekino

Anything new like Rooftop Sword Master which is nothing like the title suggests?

>>281516718
based unironically

>>281516657
I can't
I can't take this sort of thing anymore

>>281516755
At most she will pout when you do perverted stuff with her.

>>281516657
>bakarina 2.0
So even more homosexual than the original?

>>281516815
What a good girl.

>>281516807
what sort of thing? elaborate.

Yandere heroine where she has the sense to never let the MC see her yandere side so he's left clueless is the best kind of heroine, change my mind.

>>281504405
Nor is Jelly.

Been rereading Main Heroines since all the paywalled Genesis chapters up to the end got ripped and I forgot how fun pre-Fourth Ordeal Ruby could be.
This also reminded me of how in I Wanna Be The Guy you could die to Dracula's wineglass.

>>281516904
Indeed.

>>281517112
This is like the one "male MC reincarnated in an otome game" story that actually has designs that look like they could come out of an otome game.

>>281516828
bakarina except twice as many kidnappings

>>281504913
it literally is caused by sour grapes.
hes never going to read the isekai and doesn't like that other people are reading it.

>>281508424
>>281508493
>>281508582
>>281508669
>>281508686
>>281508795
JUST look at the first few isekai from the 2010s.
Log Horizon is based on MMOs.
Overlord is based on DnD.
Knight's & Magic is based on older isekai/fantasy/mecha.

If we look upto 2013...
Re:Monster seems based on some kind of TTRPG, dunno which ones.
Dunno what MT is based on.
Shield Hero is a mish-mash of different settings because of very different nations and then again very different world-realms with power-systems for the legendary weapons that are based on different types of video games.
Re:Zero is the one single example that ZnTfags always bring up because it's the sole author who said to be inspired by it.
Slime is based on 3 different TTRPGs: Sword World, GURP and Wizardry TTRPG.

Soo... where is the "overwhelming" DQ influence?

This is an amusing panel

>>281517197
Its funny you mention that since as I memtioned earlier, the LN artist is a popular for working on ingame arts like FGO Craft Essences, Punishing: Gray Raven.
https://x.com/HEIRO_MAN

>>281517510
You may not like it but this is what peak noble girl performance looks like

Does Korean also have an equivalent stock phrase to "it can't be helped" like Japanese?

>>281515988
is this series ever coming back?

>>281517510
>Translation: Even though I'm a god of the sword with superhuman strength and speed, even I couldn't carry your fat ass for more than a few miles

Powerful

Sleep with loli dragons

>>281516548
>>281516657
>bakarina
>heroine bad
are you brain damaged?

>>281518297
>>281516611

>>281517435
>DQ
dq is a meme, the demon lord, which is part of DQ, is a wizardry meme. stuff like persona, pokemon, final fantasy, sailormoon, and DQ all share the idea of the penultimate guy being some extremely powerful individual guarded by 4 other dudes. it could be distilled into the idea that these characters and figurehead are an interpretation of that wizardry ideal from the lense of an eastern country with it's own fables and ideals. In terms of the LABEL demon lord though, you could argue that that is DQ specific but ultimately that feels like looking for a specific trope named after a specific anime or show or scene, and then concluding it is necessarily the only or biggest influence. naming something is always a matter of convenience, not origin.

>>281518461
heroine is not bad in bakarina.

>>281518489
retarded ESL

wtf this time-stop rapist CANNOT keep getting away with it

i got burnt out with cultivation shit. i think i read a hundred lines of sutras i cant even understand

>>281518522
>heroine BAD
>heroine is not bad!
>retarded esl
what causes this level of contrarian retardation and projection?

>>281516548
how the fuck did it go here

>>281518576
your complete inability to follow the thread discussion

>>281518531
whats the novels name?

>>281518613
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/im-an-infinite-regressor-but-ive-got-stories-to-tell/

From SSS suicide hunter author

>>281518610
>you are completely unable to follow the thread discussion!!!!!
>>281516548
>>281517212
there are literally only 5 relevant posts and have nothing to do with your ESL schizobabble cope.

>>281518531
Time to pick this again.

>>281518531
Moment taken seconds before disaster

>Fiance has a sword
Oh no, THAT is about to start.

>Fiance and Gray have a sword fight
>Gray shows off his hidden sword skills
>Fat ojou sends him to the knight academy to improve his social standing so she can marry him.
>Academy arc begins.

>>281518868
>Anon 1: I want a dignified villainess
>Anon 2: You will get bakarina
>Retarded niggerfaggot: BAKARINA ISN'T HEROINE BAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>heroine remembers she is overwhelmingly stronger than the mc
>just takes what she wants (his virginity) while cucking the other harem members
yeah thats the good shit mane

>>281519371
ok rape basement schizo

i am getting baited by slutty chinese thumbnails....

Another quality translation,

>>281518531
>>281518925
damn I need to pick this up again. The last time I read it saintess timestop raped undertaker during her murder hobo arc.

>>281519005
>black-haired commoner wins sword duel against noble once
>entire feudalist system collapses around him

>>281516174
>pantsu seen
used goods whore

>>281519616
It should be more incestuous. They should both be reincarnated, and have been siblings in their past life too.

>>281518531
*stops time*
*rapes you*
how do you prevent this?

>>281519616
>She's sticking her tongue down his throat
She's used goods isn't she.

>>281519778
No, that's normal for siblings

>>281515840
>>281516216
That's weird, the mc doesn't have black hair

>>281517112
What's the twist? that there was never a game and this is his 2nd run to prevent disaster?

>>281519778
Yes. She was used goods in her past life and that status carries over to her new life.

>reading shoujo manhwa
>out nowhere the femmc has a woman moment and NTRs all the MLs with some random dude who showed up 5 chapters ago
>gets massive backlash from fans
>author cant understand why people are mad
>doubles down on the NTR in retaliation
>backlash increases and the manhwa adaptation gets canned
I still dont understand what her plan was here. Like no shit after 50 chapters of the MLs and the femmc being cute people will be pissed when you have several chapters of the femmc trying to fuck some random dude she found and you dedicate several panels to the MLs being heart broken

MC doesn't know about Crop Rotation and preservation and needs to eat ze bugs.

>>281518467
The demon lord label is Nobunaga duh.

>childhood fiend is killing every woman in mc's life
Is she a keeper?

>>281520234
there are no typos in this post btw

>>281520234
>look it up
>talks to another man in the first page
Doesn't seem fair at all if MC can't speak to other women but FMC can speak to other men.

Such a flat elf.

>>281520978
Just as God intended.

>>281516657
so bertia? I did like it

>>281520978
flat elves are peak performance

>>281517096
Where are you reading it?

>>281521568
This isn't what flat elves should look like

As a haremfag there are certain stories that should have remained as mono romances and this is one of them.

>>281521731
NTA but it SHOULD be what flat elves look like

>>281520071
>I still dont understand what her plan was here
She met a dude in real life and decided to insert him into the story.

>>281521731
its basic evolution
>cant attract mate with large breasts
>the girls with the widest hips, thickest thighs and plump butts are more sexually successful
>elves are now the flat but fat assed girl race

>LotM ripoff
>but the twist this time is a yandere female lead and lots of bondage play
>its actually pretty good

>>281522181
>hypnosis

Weird power

>>281522266
if I reverse search this and its just porn I will be very dissappointed

>>281521582
Epub shared here
https://files.catbox.moe/53rpej.epub

>>281522181
I liked this until the story abandons the yandere for some random elf girl

>>281522495
I've only read like 1/10th of it and the mc has already coughed up more blood than there is in human body

>>281522181
>LOTM clone but with yanderes added
Very common

>>281517727
Shit, I didn't grab it from mangadex and it got purged.

>>281520234
>Oneshot Censored Trash

>>281515936
>It's probably hopeless for the reverse trap connoisseurs, isn't it.
we get some pandering once in a blue moon but its pretty rough out here
just read NotLucina's chinksekai where one girl is several reverse traps simultaneously

>>281522693
why are authors\elves like this

>>281522886
elves are just analogues for white women and asian dudes love themselves some white bitches.

Pink good.

>>281517435
>Re:zero inspired by ZnT
Ok you'll have to explain that one anon

>>281515936
There are some good ones that get stuck with the wrong type of MC, and it's not always his power that's the problem.

>>281521568
i see a bulge

>>281520071
Name of this trainwreck?

>>281523181
kill yourself faggot

>>281522495
I'm trying to truck through after the second ordeal but I'm stalling

>>281523181
wishful thinking fagmo

>>281522702
That's fine, in the R-18 scenes he pumps out more cum than there is in the human body.

>>281523233
What are you enjoying and not enjoying about it so far?

>>281502589
male MC x GB heroine is gayer than GB MC X male interest.

>>281522702
I guess the author is trying very hard to show that losing life force is a big deal and not something that can be ignored but it is heavy handed and probably feels insincere when he gets more penalties.

30 years in a rofan bros where did our isekai go?

>>281523764
Something you will learn very quickly is that Main Heroines's writing is about as subtle as a bowling ball to the face, although that's arguably part of it's charm.

>>281523181
you lust after cock

>>281523404
I'm at Chapter 85 and find it a struggle to keep going, especially knowing Ruby steals the show later on.

>>281524180
Personally I felt things really picked up from around the third ordeal (about chapter 145) since that's the point after which all the heroines were finally in on Frey's situation and some of the mysteries were answered, so all the heroines could be involved properly but if the second ordeal's regetkino didn't hook you then the story might just not be for you, because regretkino is basically Main Heroines's bread and butter

>>281524272
It's not the regretkino, it's everything else, I'd frankly prefer to be told about the abuse rather than shown him getting dragged over the coals because then I just feel a sense of wonderment that this is what people go crazy over and I become more curious on a meta level than emotionally engaged, and spoilers are automatically revealed for me so whatever.

>>281524326
Also all the foreshadowing about the evil sun god being retconned out makes me roll my eyes when it's treated with great drama knowing there's a "lol jk" coming up.

>>281524382
>all the foreshadowing about the evil sun god being retconned out
That never happened, what are you talking about?

>>281518531
>>281518925
Are these just short stories

>>281524412
I guess I imagined all the scenes about Selene tricking the sun god who's actually a good guy, and the demon god isn't the sun god's true name, it's actually a separate guy pranking the sun god.

>>281524326
The suffering is just setup to make everyone else's regret later feel more heavy. It's like watching The Passion of the Christ.
>>281524439
>>281524382
There wasn't any retcons. The demon god has hijacked the sun and is running the system, which is what is actually being foreshadowed, rather than evil sun god. It's explained in the third ordeal.

>>281523764
It evidently doesn't work when mc is shown coughing gallons of blood (where does it even come from) and barely holding on then dispatching the bad guys in a single strike in the next paragraph (and then back to coughing blood) every other chapter with no evident decrease in performance. It might mean something for the first 3 times or so, after that it's just another boring tuesday.

>>281524490
Yeah, so retconned out. The webtoon dropped that shit for a reason, it was all a waste of the reader's time. Between knowing how effortlessly the main heroines are tossed aside like the premise never mattered later and the plot having multiple scenes that feel awful to read knowing how they got treated, why is this rated so well?

>>281524490
>The suffering
>>281524532

>>281519077
>Heroine bad
>You will get bakarina
So heroine isn't bad. Qed esl retard.

>>281524558
>retconned out
It's not retconned out, it just means that there is different interpretation of the foreshadowing that is different from what you guessed at first but remains consistent with what was written. The webtoon dropping it didn't really make sense since the sun is still under the control of the true culprit, and hiding from the sun is what allowed Serena and Ferloche to avoid applying penalties to Frey.I feel like you're making big assumptions (like the sun plot being a retconned waste of time or the main heroines being tossed aside) based off just a few lines of spoilers but perhaps that's just me.
>why is this rated so well?
idk, because it has SOVL probably

>>281508929
>Gab Song rubbing her hands at the thought of jebaiting her readers yet again with a brand new dumpster fire ending involving her favorite girl, the ex-gf
>The Readers™ hate Gab Song's favorite girl and are outraged by this planned dumpster fire ending
>Gab Song cucks out and retcons the exgf completely
>Spites the Readers™ by pulling a TNE and making an even worse dogshit ending than what was originally planned
Is this all part of Gab Song's master plan? Is she the ultimate novel-writing troll? Or is she doing this all because the Readers™ don't like her favorite girl? If so, that's petty.

>>281524416
kind of? its non-linear and episodic.
MC has infinite regression and the story is told through him recalling from memory various events and plotlines through his 500+ regressions
one arc he's defeating one of the big bads then the next suddenly, one day one of the main character's is a potato now.

>>281524728
>It's blatantly changing what was setup
>But it's not a retcon honest!
Come on. The suffering doesn't work, the plot peels away, and the sovl is abandoned for demon king wanking. Am I supposed to keep suffering for dozens of chapters past 85 before it "gets good" to promptly nosedive with Ruby? You're going to pretend the plotholes don't exist?

>>281524763
considering his latest novel somehow has a worse ending than every other one so far I would say yes

>>281522885
Hmph, yokearumai!
Sukaretto supoiraa

>>281524728
>few lines of spoilers
You can see the plot extensively discussed in the archive.

>>281524815
I'm never going to defend Main Heroines from a plot holes perspective because obviously the author had no real plan for where he was going, I just don't think the demon god sun hijack is necessarily one of them.
> Am I supposed to keep suffering for dozens of chapters past 85 before it "gets good" to promptly nosedive with Ruby?
Well no, like I said if you're not already enjoying it by the second ordeal then you're probably not going to enjoy it at some point in the future.

>>281524815
>and the sovl is abandoned for demon king wanking
the demon king wank was the biggest sovlbomb in the entire story

>>281524959
stop being a threadreader

>>281524986
>I just don't think the demon god sun hijack is necessarily one of them.
You can accept the others but you can't accept that one when not even the webtoon retained it?
> if you're not already enjoying it by the second ordeal then you're probably not going to enjoy it at some point in the future.
That makes sense, I dropped it years ago back when it was just Kania because the pacing of this thing felt way off to me and coming back it doesn't feel any better. I haven't even touched it in a while, I'm only thinking of going back to properly articulate how bad it is.
>>281525022
lol so much for main heroines, it's just ryona, is that what you call sovl? Stupid.
>>281525086
stop being a threadposter

>>281502734
>another hiatus for his other book
god dammit, at least he writes fast

>>281525116
>only knows ruby's arc for the ryona
threadreaders get the rope

>>281525209
>doesn't deny the ryona
threadposters should shut up if they don't want to be noticed and called out

>>281525116
Well, the webtoon ignoring the sun thing has implications that go far beyond just the sun god/demon god plot, so yeah.
>I haven't even touched it in a while, I'm only thinking of going back to properly articulate how bad it is
Okay, I guess you have your reason for why you're "supposed to keep suffering for dozens of chapters past 85 before it "gets good" to promptly nosedive with Ruby" then.

>>281525237
read it and complain about the actual thing instead of about your fantasy headcanon of the thing

>>281525276
Well, you guys keep telling me it gets good. You said it right up there that I should keep trucking until 145 and see how it feels. I know that around chapter 200 it apparently starts falling apart. I'm not a fan of Patchouli so Selene does absolutely nothing for me which hurts a lot since she's apparently the most beloved.
>>281525316
>fantasy headcanon
Screenshots of pages showing Frey beating Ruby up like an incel are fantasy headcanon?

>>281525381
>You said it right up there that I should keep trucking until 145 and see how it feel
No illiteratebro, I said
>Personally I felt things really picked up from around the third ordeal (about chapter 145)
>but if the second ordeal's regetkino didn't hook you then the story might just not be for you
Like I said, the third ordeal is when it picked up for me because from the third ordeal onward all the main heroines are on his side and some questions were answered so that's when the plot got moving. But the fundamentals of the writing never change. I can't think of why it would fall apart from chapter 200 in particular.

>>281525381
did i fucking stutter?
>only knows ruby's arc for the ryona
threadreaders get the rope

>>281525491
So you're suggesting that I endure to 145. Not sure why you call me illiterate, or keep using spoiler tags when I told you they automatically reveal for me when I don't want them to.

>because from the third ordeal onward all the main heroines are on his side and some questions were answered so that's when the plot got moving.
Right in time to abandon them. Not feeling how the regret can work.

>>281525561
No, I also know that she steals the show later on. I already don't care for her from her introduction so it's not something I relish seeing.

>>281518670
thank you

>>281525571
I'm saying that 145 is when the plot started moving for me (if the plot was the problem), but suggesting you drop it if you're still not enjoying it at 85 (if the fundamentals of the story aka suffering/regret/obsession are the problem). If I have to spell this out for you, then please don't begrudge me occasionally calling you illiterate.
>or keep using spoiler tags
It's a courtesy to people who don't want to be spoiled. This is a public imageboard, not your personal DMs, after all.
>Right in time to abandon them. Not feeling how the regret can work.
I guess you're going to drop it and never find out, then.

>>281525674
As I said, the regret isn't the problem for me, it's the suffering. It's not weighted properly, and also having them all abandon killing him less than halfway through the story feels hollow. I have enjoyment trying to understand why it has fans. Can you explain your impression the author had no clue where he was going? He wrote an awful lot so it seemed like someone like that was prepared.
>I guess you're going to drop it and never find out, then
Well, if you guys are going to keep talking it's not like I can drop it when I'm forced to read it against my will.

>>281525799
>As I said, the regret isn't the problem for me, it's the suffering
I think the suffering and regret go hand in hand, but fair enough. I'd still say drop it then because the suffering doesn't stop.
>Can you explain your impression the author had no clue where he was going?
Mostly because he sets up plot threads that never pay off later on, brings in plot points that were never actually foreshadowed, and writes in events with obvious solutions that were never used in favor of creating more drama. I think he has an idea of where he wants to go but is highly prone to changing his mind and writing on emotion rather than logic.
>Well, if you guys are going to keep talking it's not like I can drop it when I'm forced to read it against my will.
You don't have to read literally everything that gets discussed here, you know. Especially if you aren't enjoying it.

>>281525856
I don't have to, but I'm curious enough about this series because it's also clealry influenced some other regretkino kr isekai I actually like so I might as well know the original.

>>281525948
Then read it as an academic exercise I guess. If you want to know why it has fans then I guess more people enjoy the overwrought suffering/regret than not. Or the namu wiki's explanation is as good as any.
>it can be seen as a work that overcomes its writing shortcomings through attractive characters, settings, and sincere serialization. In addition, although it is still disappointing compared to the other life picks and previous ranking works at the top, the writing problem gradually improved as the series continued, and thanks to the twist and development that hits you in the back in a good way and the material's unique impoverishment build-up, it continues to be Nobel's favorite.

>>281525989
It's also a good exercise in humility if such a mediocre work can get fans. I do like Perloche. What a relief I was spoiled that she'll remember the bad end.

>>281526050
>Perloche
If you really must keep reading I'd say to stop reading the official MTL and just read the Genesis version, at least it had some editors look at it.

>>281525799
>I have enjoyment trying to understand why it has fans
like the other post said it's probably because of the sovl, it coasts heavily on turning your brain off and riding the emotional rollercoaster and the ludicrous plot contrivances in the second half Code Geass R2 style