Thread 281683484

>oh no, i'm about to die
>actually, i came from a lineage of fire breathing powerhouse that can conveniently help me win this fight.

>oh no, the ninja man is about to die
>don't worry, my little demon sister can conveniently heal people now.

>oh no, the boar man got a direct hit to his vitals. He's gonna die!
>don't worry, the boar man conveniently move his organs around.

>oh no, my demon sister is about to be killed by the sun
>don't worry my little sister is actually a special kind of demon that conveniently conquers the sun.

HOW MANY FUCKING ASSPULL DOES THIS SHOW HAVE!?

>>281683484 (OP)
Still better than Naruto.

>>281683484 (OP)
there will be even more to come

> oh no, lots of people died at the end
> don't worry, reincarnation exist. Everyone will reincarnate with the same face and hair style and we will all live happily ever after.

>>281683484 (OP)
I drop the show after the entertainment district arc because bs like this kept happening to them

>>281683484 (OP)
Alot. There's a reason why people say it's carried by animation. The story is absolutely DOGSHIT

i will never understand why this trash is popular

>>281683484 (OP)
>actually, i came from a lineage of fire breathing powerhouse that can conveniently help me win this fight.
This one is fine. The whole point of the show is about him uncovering his potential.

>>281683484 (OP)
>don't worry, my little demon sister can conveniently heal people now.
This was really good, imo.
Nezuko using her demon art, usually a destructive thing (fire) borne of a destructive creature (a demon) to burn away another demon's poisonous blood and save, not harm, a human was pretty thematic to who she is.
She's the anti-demon, and with this action she's behaving like it.

>>281683484 (OP)
Don't force yourself to watch garbage unless that's your thing.

>>281683484 (OP)
>read shonenslop
>gets shonenslop
>gets mad

>>281683484 (OP)
Wow, you sure are smart, anon! People are gonna stop enjoying the show now that you've illuminated all of us with your brilliant take!

>>281683484 (OP)
Whats with all the KnY threads?

>>281684439
this. LMAO . what were you expecting senpai?

>>281683484 (OP)
>oh no, the ninja man is about to die
>>don't worry, my little demon sister can conveniently heal people now.
It literally showed in the previous arc that Nezuko power burn away other demon power. Uzui was on death door because the demon poison inside him so Nezuko burn away the poison saved him. It didn't heal him since he still lose an eye and a hand.

>>281683484 (OP)
>don't worry, my little demon sister can conveniently heal people now.

Whats the problem for this?
Her power has originally the effect of burning demon cells, and it’s not like she’s actually healing wounds.
The effect is consistent.

>>281683484 (OP)
> i came from a lineage of fire breathing powerhouse that can conveniently help me win this fight.
The opposite actually, his family is weak but they keep the practice anyway as a dance

>>281683552
>treating reincarnation and resurrection as the same thing.

>In the ending of Stone Ocean, Jolyne became Irene, so she’s happy. It’s a wonderful happy ending.

>>281683484 (OP)
>Watching shonen
>Complaining to basing shonen things

>>281685813
>treating reincarnation and resurrection as the same thing
Nips absolutely do, there is no difference for them. It's one of the bigger reasons why nip endings are so shit.

Im not pulling out of this ass

>>281685813
JOJO is garbage too.
Tbh, even worse full of asspul shit.

>>281686330
How many guys just let daki vore them out of pure attraction

>>281683484 (OP)
don't watch slop next time

KnY is asspull and plot armor personified. The issue stems from 2 major problems:
1. Premise. Humans fighting supernatural beings. It only sells the fights one way with super regeneration letting demons hang with swordsmen, but humans can’t take injuries or they die.
2. Length. The mangaka wrapped up the plot at warp speed after grabbing the anime bag. Human characters couldn’t grow their powers naturally over many arcs and so had no choice but to rely on insane asspulls and awful writing.

>>281683484 (OP)
Shone is not for you.
Just read Seinen.

KnY actually has fewer of these kinds of asspulls compared to other shonen.

>>281687023
Manga ending at that length was planned from the very beginning.
Back when the series had just started, the author explained the entire cast and story outline to the first editor, Katayama, who then said it would take a little over twenty volumes to reach the conclusion.

>>281683663
It was healing fire which is also very destructive against demons as shown amply later on. Very impressive what is just a little bit of Muzan’s blood and not a SINGLE DROP of anyone else’s. Just stop already, you know very well that Nezuko is nothing but a ravaging asspull plot armor knot of awful writing.

>>281687145
>It was healing fire

Wtf r u talking about?
That ability does nothing except burn away demon cells, and it’s completely harmless to the human body.
This has been consistent ever since the power was first introduced.
Your hatred for DS is so insane.

>>281683484 (OP)
Tanjiro barely trains with Sun Breathing but all of a sudden he has access to moves that should take years to master. It doesn’t feel like natural growth, more like the gotouge is just handing him the right card at the right moment

>>281683484 (OP)
There's more asspull like demon slayer marks. It's full of asspull.

>>281683484 (OP)
Nez was already established to be a "good demon" who hates bad demons. Her anti demon magic flames is not an ass pull. Your demon power depends on your personality. She is from a sun breathing family that's why she and tanjiro can tolerate the sun as demons.

>>281683484 (OP)
Nezuko surviving the sun is an absolute joke. The entire series builds up sunlight as a major weakness for demons, then suddenly she’s immune.
No buildup, no explanation, just plot convenience. It’s a straight-up asspull in the highest degree

Most of this manga's problem can be summed up with "plot convenience, explain them later."

>>281683642
>carried by animation.
There are tons of works with animation far more impressive than KnY, so why is it that none of them even come close to matching its success?
CSM for example, it had way more money poured into both animation and promotion compared to KnY, and the actual animation quality even surpassed ufotable’s.

>>281683484 (OP)
kny is a slideshow of asspulls glued together by pretty animation.

>>281683484 (OP)
so funny how kny fans pretend that tanjiro isn't a chosen one nepo baby when this faggot has fucking sun breathing.

>>281687293
Demon Slayer mark is ok.
Unlike the costless power-up forms you see in most shonenshit, this one actually came with a clear price.
Even Hunter x Hunter ended up nullifying its own sacrifices with Nanika, the ultimate deus ex machina.

I would have no problem with the asspulls if they didn't always happen in the last fucking minute of every fucking fight. I also hate the flashbacks because they don't exist to explain the characters but to force us to feel sorry for them.

>>281683506
nah

>>281687413
Because KnY is emotional manipulative af with its infinite train of muh sad backstories. Rengoku is a character that exists solely to die.

>>281687514
>emotional manipulative
Is this a new buzzword I havent heard of?

>>281687413
Because CSM is worse source material.

>>281687413
You're probably too young to remember, but a lot of people on /a/, myself included, were astounded at Type-Moon shit's insane popularity back in the day. What it boiled down to was that Japan experienced a cultural movement that went gaga over this doujin circle which went mainstream, sort of like a fairy tale story for Japanese fans; no one would care today, but back then it was a huge deal in Japan. The weebs, which dominated /a/ and fandom back then, latched onto the hype train for NO OTHER REASON than it was popular in Japan. We are seeing something similar (not the same) with KnY. It got huge in Japan because Ufotable (and other publishers) found the perfect market formula in Japan and managed to create a success story out of the IP in Japan. Weebs brought the hype train over here, but, also in general the Ufotable production is universally normie low-IQ market friendly so that helps it a lot.

I wish they wouldn't write Tengen off in Infinity Castle. Kinda miss his sexy ass.

>>281684439
Seriously. How do you faggots keep expecting something else out of the genre?

>>281687534
The story is basically "everybody dying tragically while having a tragic flashback about tragedies". Call it whatever you want. It's safe/lazy/cheap writing for sure.

>>281683484 (OP)
Loads. Still enjoyed and am excited for the movie.

>>281687536
I always figured it was because KnY appeals to a more demographics than CSM.
I mean, look at Tanjiro and Denji as an example.
I like them both, but I can't deny that one is way more likeable and admirable to the general population than the other.

>>281687573
This is something people tend to forget, but the first season of KnY actually had almost no promotional support by medias at all.
When the anime first started airing, nobody even knew it existed.
Only people familiar with Type-Moon thought, “Huh, so ufotable is doing a Jump anime,” and that was about it.
It wasn’t until after Season 1 finished and the popularity exploded that the media finally started jumping on the bandwagon.

it's an extremely average series that somehow got super popular. Don't let it's fame enticed you to think of it as anymore than a mediocre manga,

>>281683552
And this is bad because?.....
/a/non, reicarnation is a real thing. It doesn't remove the stakes in any form whatsoever, it just gurantees that people who died gets to be reborn again, but in the far future.

>>281683484 (OP)
>actually, i came from a lineage of fire breathing powerhouse that can conveniently help me win this fight.
He inflicted zero damage on the enemy with that. He effectively stalled for like a minute until Giyuu showed up
>don't worry, my little demon sister can conveniently heal people now.
Burning blood is literally her power from the start
>don't worry, the boar man conveniently move his organs around.
He constantly performs retarded feats of flexibility requiring manipulation of his internal organs, including bending himself through a tiny tunnel earlier in that very arc
>don't worry my little sister is actually a special kind of demon that conveniently conquers the sun.
The fundamental premise of the series is that Nezuko is a special demon

>>281687726
That can’t really be said in today’s era. With entertainment being oversaturated and audiences more jaded, it’s actually protagonists like Denji who are more likely to appeal to the masses, while “good boy” types like Tanjiro tend to be dismissed as hypocrites and are harder to accept.

>Jeremy seething again

What happened?

>>281687781
Stakes? Killing a bunch of plot devices and then resurrecting them in a happy future doesn't involve any stakes.

>>281687591
Season 4 was shit but Ill forgive Ufotable because it gave me Tengen thigh shots.

>>281687788
What a cope.

>>281683484 (OP)
You’d probably faint if you ever read Baki (especially from Part 2 onward) or JoJo.

>>281687827
>reincarnation=resurrection

>>281683484 (OP)
>actually, i came from a lineage of fire breathing powerhouse that can conveniently help me win this fight.
… who? Tanjiro? He came from a lineage of mountain hillfolk. He has no special bloodline, at all.

The most special thing that ever happened to his bloodline is Sword Jesus came to bury his wife and was so thankful Tanjiros ancestor let him talk out feeling sad that he showed them a sickass dance that keeps you warm in the cold because sun breathing. He’s not a chosen one, his ancestor just was nice to the chosen one this one time.

>>281687910
Yeah I dunno what OPs on about, they faked out the chosen one or special bloodline thing for Tanjiro twice. They hinted he’s related to Yorichi twice then revealed that, nah, he’s just some dude. His ancestors only superpower was cheering up the most powerful swordsman of any age when he was feeling blue.

One act of kindness saved his bloodline, from the one who’s one act of violence almost destroyed it

>>281687847
>What a cope
>Translation: I’ve got no logical rebuttal.

>>281687833
Wow it's my first time to see this lewd pic of Tengen-sama, is it official artwork from Ufotable?

Infinity Castle is like a microcosm of the plot as a whole. Nothing but a perfect string of asspulls and plot armor each and every one REQUIRED for the good guys to win. If even one asspull doesn't go off, if even one tactical error by the protagonists is made, if even one good choice by Muzan is made, if even one common sense action is taken by the Upper Moons, then the good guys are wiped. It's EVEN WORSE than BLEACH. It's so formulaic it's astounding that anyone can't recognize it.

For example, what if Shinobou ran into UM1 instead of UM2? EXACTLY THE SAME OUTCOME, just different dialogue and different cast in the flashbacks. If Gyo and San ran in on UM2, the fight would go no different, asspulls and ability matching would just be updated to make the same outcome happen. So on and so forth. It's THAT bad, worse then even the worst the Big 3 have shit out.

>>281687969
This guy was ranting in a similar thread not long ago, claiming that Tanjiro is just a generic “chosen one.”
Judging by the writing style, it’s clearly the same person who’s been nonstop posting anti-KnY smear threads on /a/ 24/7, 365 days a year.
His mental state is obviously not normal.
Maybe he feels inferior and jealous when comparing it to his favorite anime, or maybe he was attacked by KnY fans in the past.
Either way, the amount of hatred he shows is anything but ordinary.

>>281688021
Hi Jeremy
28 billion in Japan after this weekend.
75 million overseas with just SEA after this weekend.

>>281687910
AH YES the the dance which not only confers the spiritual ability to gain the most powerful and rarest of breathing techniques which almost no one is able to learn naturally, literally turns the male heirs who practice it into super-advanced technique users most actual Demon Slayers never get, it ALSO confers DEMON JESUS status on FEMALES who happen to be turned because of proximity or something. And, best of all, you don't even need to DO the dance, just remember a dancer talking to you about the dance mid-battle to get the ultra technique.
JUST
FUCK
OFF

>>281688095
All of that is wrong, amazing.

So is 220M worldwide still your prediction

>>281688021
I’ve seen posts with this exact same content countless times before.
It’s obviously just one mentally ill man, repeating the same patterned lines over and over like a broken record.

>>281687413
CSM looked like shit though with the source material and direction being abysmal to add insult injury

>>281683484 (OP)
>oh no, i'm about to die
>actually, i came from a lineage of moon breathing powerhouse that can conveniently help me wi- ACK

>>281688135
That's what happens when chat writes your posts.
Also failures at reading images and charts.

>>281688063
>>281688135
I’ve heard that this guy is an MHA fan who’s been constantly seething because KnY surpassed it in popularity both in Japan and worldwide.
Also heard that he pretends to be a DB fan just to avoid directing the backlash toward MHA.
I don’t know if it’s true or not.

>>281688135
I've posted this twice, but I noticed that others are picking up on it. BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. You KNOW it's true. When Douma randomly remembers Inosuke's mother, that was CLEARLY just there for no other reason than give Inosuke his emotional flashback. Douma was completely irrelevant it could have been ANY of the UMs, only changing in dialogue and setting. The entire arc was like that.

>loses a debate to actual redditors
>comes back here to post the exact same shit

i like kimetso no yaiba

>move his organs around
The stupidest trope in anime ever.

>>281688187
I think this guy was already obsessed with KnY even before ChatGPT became mainstream.
I remember there’s been a guy, mechanically posting similar comments since around 4 years ago.

>>281688344
Yeah he's been at it since 2019, but the movie triggered him do hard (because he's always wrong) he's now posting chat walls of text.

>>281683484 (OP)
i drop the anime at the train arc. I assume all these happens right after that?

>>281687824
Movie is doing insanely well in Korea which launched yesterday.
That’s probably what’s been aggravating him.

>>281688360
>Imagine wasting 6 years of your life seething over an anime you hate.

>>281683484 (OP)
Those are some ugly looking sets of characters

>>281687477
It happens too often

>>281688424
He said 9 million total in Korea, which is funny (because clearly a movie can only be measured in presales)

>>281688002
Sure is.

>>281687514
Not sure what your point is, but if it moved more people, that’s already a Win. And the moment you bring up its content, your whole ‘carried by animation’ cope falls apart.

>>281688316
Inosuke is a stupid crazy retard in a world that wants him to be normal.

>>281687732
>>281687413
This is just my personal observation, but manga/anime that big media companies try to force into mega-hits from the start with full-blown promotion almost never end up well.
CSM and Samurai 8 are prime examples of that.

Wasn't the boar guy moving his organs around played as a joke?

>>281689240
You find more people liking csm than they do kny.

>>281689267
I like to believe he was making shit up to be like his new idol Tengen and Gyutaro just missed.

>>281689320
There is like 20+ fujimoto copycats in the manga industry and absolutely 0 manga inspired by kny.

>>281689320
Yet sales, even overseas, won't support that notion.

>>281689347
There are tons of KnY copycats out there.
It’s just that most of them got axed, so nobody remembers them.

>>281689419
The people also like marvel slops too yet stuff like Bladerunner and oppenheimer are the ones treated like high art.
KNY is marvel slop in this context btw.

>>281689626
gee, i wonder why

>>281689646
So CSM is DCEU; same garbage, but somehow worse and less popular?

>>281683552
Reincarnation is real in Buddhism
Meanwhile this one is way worse:
>oh no, lots of people died at the end of the arc
>don't worry, my magical spell will conveniently revive everyone who died lol

>>281689320
If the information I have is correct, CSM’s total WORLDWIDE manga sales should actually be losing by nearly double to KnY’s sales from OVERSEAS ALONE.

>>281687392
That's also how Jujutsu Kaisen works.

>>281687910
>>281687969
Yeah I remember that too, the point is that his ancestors passed down a silly dance taught by the chosen one and it became an ember that burned for centuries turning into an inferno that could finally beat Muzan. Tanjiro wasnt anything special at all, he was just lucky that the dance that his father taught him was just a random gift passed on through a chance encounter.

>>281689320
more people have dropped csm in Part 2 than people dropped bleach after aizen arc

>>281689665
That actually elevates KnY’s value and uniqueness.
Even though many tried to do the same thing, in the end KnY was the only one that survived.

>>281688957
>but if it moved more people, that’s already a Win.
Commercially, yes. Artistically, not at all. Good art doesn't force emotion, it evokes it.
>And the moment you bring up its content, your whole ‘carried by animation’ cope falls apart.
The point is that the animation takes advantage of this with its flashy colors, sakuga and, of course, mellow soundtrack. It's the same formula of Your name.

Kimetsu is like Asia's Harry Potter.

>>281689821
no, it's just shows that everything good about it came from the anime. Not the actual manga. There's nothing to be inspired by kny. Just pray and hope they get a ufotable adaptation as well.

>>281687114
>Manga ending at that length was planned from the very beginning
Didn't Croc miscount the number of pages needed and then have to cut some stuff

>>281689902
>survived in the most cutthroat and competitive magazine in japan
?

>>281689747
CSM total worldwide sales (as of Dec 2024):
30 million+

KnY overseas-only sales (as of Jul 2025):
56 million

OMG Kimetsu is already way bigger than we expected.

>>281689867
>animation takes advantage of its medium
I said yep, what a concept.

>>281689867
>Good art doesn't force emotion, it evokes it.

Sorry but I can't see the difference.

>>281687413
>>281689240
>>281687573
>>281687732
What are you guys talking about? Kimetsu no Yaiba has had heavy merchandising since the beginning of the manga. It was part of Jump Super Push, received a cover recommendation from Togashi etc. JJK is another example of a title that, even before its debut in the magazine, already had heavy advertising in subways and stores. Since 2016, Jump has completely changed the way it sells its titles.

You probably missed it because KnY wasn't hyped worldwide.

>>281683484 (OP)
read better manga instead of just following the latest FOTM, dipshit.

>>281689891
I'm guessing you mean this in popularity terms, but I agree with this idea when it comes to the setting.
HP uses (then) modern day Britain and keeps it real. It never has the wizards be discovered and change the world into a modern-fantasy, like say JJK does after Shibuya.
The idea here is to have the British audience believe that maybe, just maybe, wizards are real and this all could have happened. You, the child reading this book/watching this movie, just might get your letter from Hogwarts in the mail when you turn 11 and begin your Wizarding adventure!
I think the same is going on in KnY. Maybe this is why Gotouge never includes the government or has the demons get known to a massive amount of the public.
The idea may have been to make the Japanese audience believe that this all happened.
Maybe, I dunno. I'm just trying to justify why the government were never involved.

>>281690074
> Getting a cover recommendation from a famous manga artist means it was super-pushed.


Kek.
It’s nothing unusual at all for a new series to get a comment from a veteran manga artist. Are you a first-year tourist just now starting to observe this industry?
And why are you treating KnY as if it were some special exception? Back in 2016, KnY was just one of many new series that looked like candidates to get axed.
Also, for the record, I lived in Japan up until the COVID pandemic and regularly read WSJ, so if you try to lie, I’ll catch it immediately.

>>281687023
>2. Length. The mangaka wrapped up the plot at warp speed after grabbing the anime bag.
Weren't the lower moons killed before the anime was even announced?
Seems to have always been moving at that lightning pace, imo

>>281690031
I thought CSM was supposed to be #1 in the West, but turns out it’s not even selling that well?
The anime viewership gap is probably even wider.

Did you wish GODjima a happy birthday?

>>281690410
how many kids did he invite to his birthday party

>>281689902
I have no idea what you’re even saying. There are tons of copycats of the manga itself, but somehow it’s all "because of ufotable"?
Lmao. Even before the anime, another Jump series already had a character that looked literally like discount Rengoku.

>>281690449
Why would he invite something he hates?

>p-please give our capeshit movie an oscar :(
These motherfuckers didn't learn the first time with Mugen Train, did they?

>>281690665
>oscars
Such a nothing award ceremony. Why would they do this?

>>281689867
Force emotion mean that the scenes suppose to make you feel something but isn't.
Evoke emotion mean that you actually feel it. If people actually feel the emotion that suppose to feel for the scenes, it isn't force

>>281690665
Who is discussing? Fans? Critics?

So KnY’s really gonna wrap up in just two movies?
That would mean each one has to be a 4-hour film with an intermission.

>>281690665
watch csm win this

>>281691037
You can wrap it up in another 150 minute movies.

>>281690665
Watch as the Academy Awards laughs Demon Slayer out of the building like they did with the first movie. Hollywood doesn't hand Oscars to franchise sequels, let alone anime ones. This is where anime never wins unless you're Miyazaki.
>>281690728
Because they desperately want to be legitimized by Hollywood when Hollywood don't care about Demon Slayer. Aniplex and the core Demon Slayer fandom are absolutely deluded who think money = prestige. Unless your name is Hayao Miyazaki, the Academy doesn't care about anime, especially not the kind that's serialized, loud, and fan-driven. Miyazaki earned Oscars (Spirited Away, Boy and the Heron) not because of box office hype, but because his films are self-contained, emotionally rich, artistically distinct, and culturally resonant far beyond Japan. Even though I personally didn't like Boy and the Heron, I can tell there's a sense of authorship coming off from it with a distinctive voice. I don't feel any authorship from Demon Slayer and the author doesn't have a distinctive voice. It's a TV arc continuation that requires 40+ episodes of homework and thrives off WSJ powerscaling. That's not Oscar material, that's just anime fanservice.

Flow, some Latvian animated film, made €50 million (or less) and still won because it was auteur-driven and emotionally resonant. It didn't rely on explosive box office or hype cycles, it relied on substance. Meanwhile, Aniplex thinks a few $200M box office headlines in Asian markets are going to make the crusty old men at the Academy swoon, lmao.
>>281690868
Fans, I suspect.

>>281691037
Is it really that long?
I need to reread the manga

>>281691276
That Oscar rumor shit is just from one Indian, take it for what you will

>>281690665
Most of the judges dont even watch all the movies in the animation category and just auto choose whatever their kids liked.

>>281683506
Naruto has inspired several flagship titles in jump. What inspiring new mangaka is inspired by kny?

>>281691354
There’s about five volumes’ worth of material left.
Even so, I feel like two three-hour films would be enough to cover it.

>>281687275
THANK YOU! finally someone says it.

>>281687275
Kind of funny how they dont do shit until the second go around though.
> Rui
> Daki
> Hantengu’s clones

>>281690868
It's mostly just anime fans. So far, there's no official outlet who says Mugen Castle is s contender for anything. It won't even make the shortlist before the final Oscar nominations. The film is made for Kimetsu fans and is a continuation of the story, not a standalone film that can be watched by the general audience. If there's a Japanese anime film that might get nominated, it would be Scarlet by Mamoru Hosoda, who was previously nominated for an Oscar. Everyone predicts these films will be the nominees for 2026 so far.
>Kpop Demon Hunters
>Scarlet
>Zootopia 2
>Arco
>In Your Dreams

>>281687413
>>281687536
Worse source material that was done no favors by the direction trying to ground and tone it down

>>281683484 (OP)
The infinity castle movies will probably be pretty cool with great animation and filled with action packed fight scenes, the story sucks though

>>281683484 (OP)
>help him win
He still lost against Rui

>conveniently conquer the sun
Sun breathers. Also, Muzan went after Tanjiro's family specifically to turn his family into demons and see if they can conquer the sun.

We must wait another month for true Kino to drop

>>281692652
Kimetsu already dropped, csm is the biggest whatever in comparison.

>>281683484 (OP)
What is it about this series that makes this guy so perpetually angry?

>>281692791
>eclipsed and mogged into oblivion
>sits at the top of the japanese box office
>mogged DB (and everything else) in sales

>>281690280
Nice try, Jim.

>>281692791
Beloved series that literally can't stop winning. Bound to make weebs seethe that their favorite garbage isn't in its place.

>>281683642
imagine if something like the new season of fairy tail had gotten this treatment and suddenly millions of normalfaggots acted like they always loved it

Why did Ufotable make Kokushibo look so much like Yoriichi? Just to gaslight people about his identity? Because that seems like exactly the reason.

>>281693000
It's a nice misdirection.

>>281693000
No way.
90% of audience already read manga.

>King of demons who's been in hiding all this time goes after a family of coal burners
>WHAT THE FUCK? THEY'RE SPECIAL????

>>281693000
… because they’re twins
>Why does this twin look like the other twin!
Ya’ dumb shit

>>281692808
>mogged DB (and everything else) in sales
>DB
Carried by god-tier manga, influenced an entire generation and the next generation that came after it
Made $30 billion by 2004
Estimated $45-$50 billion today in 2025 making it a top 3 franchise right behind Pokemon and Hello Kitty and the only shounen franchise on that list
Gets an amusement park in Saudi Arabia
Manga sold 350 million copies in 2008 and sales only increased over the years, has sold over 450 million copies and should be around 495 million right now (Wikipedia concedes that btw) meaning = 10.71M per vols (lowball) or 11.78M (highball), manga sales are 50% overseas and 60% Japan
>DS
Carried by anime, influenced nothing
Made a measly $9 billion which all came from the anime and movie exploding, flatlined since then
Only Japan cares about it, the rest of the world is busy watching DB
Manga sold 200 million in 2022 and only made 20 million 3 years later, sales are 90% Japan and 10% overseas
Will be memoryholed the second the anime ends, no different from other popular slops like SnK and JJK
>>281692791
>/co/shit
Nigger.

>>281693133
They absolutely are not special. He also was not going after them, he was looking for the Blue Spider-Lily that’s growing on Yorichis grave.

If there’s no spider-lily there’s no reason for him to be there and if he didn’t decide to murder a family for no reason he would’ve found out from Tanjiros mom. It’s the dichotomy of lack of empathy on Muzans side being his ultimate downfall while the compassion and empathy of Tanjiro’s ancestor is what allowed his descendant to survive and eventually carry on their teachings into the future.

One act of kindness saved the world, one act of cruelty destroyed the demon king

>>281693229
>has sold over 450 million copies and should be around 495 million right now (Wikipedia concedes that btw)
>will never provide proof beyond his delusions because there's no source
One day, jimbo, ask wikipedia to change it if you are so sure?

>>281693251
Nezuko gains her memory of what happened to her family when she starts turning human and it shows Muzan gave them his blood which is what killed them. He wasn't trying to kill them. He gave them a lot of blood which is why Nezuko became so strong. The plan was to have demons that were related to sun breathing possibly conquer the sun for him. It worked.

>>281683484 (OP)
it is the most asspully of all shounens and that is saying something

>>281692652
I’ve thought this for a while about this movie, but isn’t like 80% of the plot already spoiled just from the trailer and concept art?

>>281683655
I don't understand why you're so full of shit..

>>281693531
Animation is the *only* reason people give a fuck about this series. If this slop was picked up by Pierrot, it would have ended by S1 and just been another forgotten mid-tier shounen like Hitman Reborn

>>281693365
Nonsensical BS. Setting aside that there were no sun breathers in the family (just a fire dancer, which Nezoku being a girl had no part in whatsoever except via proximity) if that was Muzan’s goal then he would have kept any demons that got produced around to see if his experiment WORKED OR NOT. This is just absurdist retcon BS to explain the unexplainable.

>>281693654
>*effortlessly mogs DB manga and anime*
>*on track to another 400 million movie*

>>281693742
>>*effortlessly mogs DB manga and anime*
Read this, nigger. Then cry and weep. Your zoomer slop is just another SnK but for toddlers, and as history has proven time and again, slops comes and goes.

Revenue of $45-$50 billion >>> a measly $400 million movie (not happening btw). DB will outlive it and everything you like.

>>281692808
I thought he was angry it overshadowed MHA and or Black Clover

>>281693654
Source on that Torishima quote?
I’ve been asking forever for an interview screencap or copy-paste for fact-checking, but you keep dodging or ignoring it. Did he actually say this? And if so, was it really in the context of "KNY is trash"?
Please show me the source to prove that you’re not lying or deliberately twisting his words.

>>281693473
It's about the execution

>>281692224
Genuinely curious if the Reze film will salvage things at all, cause Part 2 sure as fuck won't

>2025 and people still believe that Breath of the sun is some ultra duper super sword style on its own and not because the one invent and use it was literally Jesus.
Maybe CoroCoro Comic is better for you.

>>281692836
So?
You seriously think that pathetic little parting shot counts as an argument?

>>281694501
>pretends he's european
>now pretends he lived in japan

Because I was actually in Japan at the time.
I still remember picking up the Jump with KnY’s very first chapter, skimming through it quickly (since new series usually get axed fast, I didn’t spend much time on it).
Back then, the weight of what I have to say is on a completely different level from you, who can only throw out a few parting shots, compared to me who was in Japan every Monday morning reading Jump at the convenience store.

>>281694525
Because I was actually in Japan at the time.
I still remember picking up the Jump with KnY’s very first chapter, skimming through it quickly (since new series usually get axed fast, I didn’t spend much time on it).
Back then, the weight of what I have to say is on a completely different level from you, who can only throw out a few parting shots, compared to me who was in Japan every Monday morning reading Jump at the convenience store.

>>281694525
Because I was actually in Japan at the time.
I still remember picking up the Jump with KnY’s very first chapter, skimming through it quickly (since new series usually get axed fast, I didn’t spend much time on it).
The weight of what I have to say is on a completely different level from you, who can only throw out a few parting shots, compared to me who was in Japan every Monday morning reading Jump at the convenience store back then.

>>281695152
>>281695203
>>281695299
Three fucking attempts you larping afr*can monkey.

>>281694173
Ironically, Reze might be saved to some extent thanks to Kimetsu.
With Kimetsu generating this much hype, it’s entirely possible that people will head to theaters to watch Reze in search of a “second Infinity Castle.”
In fact, back during Mugen Train, it triggered the anime movie boom, and films like JJK0 and One Piece Red benefited greatly from it.

>>281695334
That’s all you’ve got? Try coming up with a logical reply instead of just throwing out cheap insults.

>>281691760
KnY inspired such hits as... uh... Fabricant 100 and Ice Head Gill.

>>281695623
That’s more than enough. You’re forgetting KnY’s a young IP, it only started at the end of 2016 and went mainstream like 6 years ago.

>>281695623
Act-Age even had a straight-up Rengoku rip-off.
Not really known in the West, but it caused a small stir on 2ch and twitter then.

>>281695739
>You’re forgetting KnY’s a young IP
It's almost a decade old now and it went mainstream half a decade ago, it's not young anymore and it didn't really inspire anything and that's fine, plenty of series don't inspire

>>281695879
I keep seeing this but there have been no pics.

>>281683484 (OP)
This garbage had an asspull in every single arc. The worst modern shounen after MHA.

>>281683484 (OP)
The only reason why normalfags give a fuck about this shitshow is because of the animation. They see shiny lights and clap like seals. No one cares that the story is garbage.

All of those are either bullshit or had pretty good explanation except the obvious
>oh no, the boar man got a direct hit to his vitals. He's gonna die!
>don't worry, the boar man conveniently move his organs around.
that one was horrible asspull.

>>281693656
>Setting aside that there were no sun breathers in the family
Sun-breathing isn't like, genetic. You don't inherit it. It's a technique like Lightning Breathing or Water Breathing, both of which Tanjiro can do. You aren't born knowing fancy sword kung fu.

On top of that, there were dozens of sun breath users in the world back in Yorici's days, he fucking taught them how to do it. He wrote a book on it that survived until present day when Rengoku's dad lost his shit and burned it. Fucking, Koku can use sun breathing techniques!(but doesn't because he hates his brother and is better with Moon stuff) He knows how to do them! Anon's spouting a wild ass theory there. The answer is just he does the demon thing when he feels like it and the was looking for the thing he's looking for all series. That's all he does! Every time we see him on-screen before Nezuko is sun-resistent he's just looking for the flower, straight up does not give a shit about the demon slayers and gets pissed at Akuza for thinking killing one besides the one he told him to is a good thing.

I dunno why you'd add in a weird explanation besides the guy who looks for this flower was looking for the flower where we, the audience, know the flower is and then the guy who randomly makes demons decided to murder a bunch of folks and randomly make a demon.

>>281693365
>He gave them a lot of blood which is why Nezuko became so strong
Exact opposite actually, he gave them a small amount of blood while he was tearing them apart, Nezuko got next to nothing and he thought she died like everyone else and just left.

To explain further, the reason he thought she died is the same reason why later he doesn't just explode her head, she's not connected to him like the other demons because she retained her humanity. Otherwise he could control her mind or make her suicide.

The reason she's so freakishly strong is the same reason Muzan's strong and why Tanjiro is a goddamn nuclear warhead who would be even stronger than Muzan when he becomes a demon, they both got exposed to the same flower that turned Muzan into a demon, but they didn't inject a half-baked formula into themselves. It's growing on the grave of Yorichi's wife, not directly stated but likely because she had it as a medicine when she was sick while pregnant.

>>281683657
But he didnt really came from that bloodline. They just learned the sun breathing but they were randoms, the point is that passing down knowledge and being lindo to everyone is important and helps people of all generations advance

>>281683484 (OP)
in eastern stories the idea of the 'breakthrough in the moment' or 'transcendence under duress' is very common
you need to deal with this fact or stop interacting with them

>>281687827
/a/non I think you are mistaken between reicarnation and coming back to life. They are not the same as eachother.
Reicarnation: you are fucking dead, but your soul (or something else depends on the religion you believe in) goes into a cycle and finally be reborn as a new person in the far future.
Coming back to life means like DBZ shit, you die for 5 seconds and then coming back in that same body.

>>281683484 (OP)
When did /a/ forget that fun things are fun? It's not supposed to make sense. Power of friendship, power ups in the last moment and asspull victories are all hallmarks of shounen. It's mindless fun for little boys. Don't take it so seriously.

>>281697676
Then explain why the manga alone — with zero help from the anime — has sold over 200 million copies?

>>281698957
>They are not the same as eachother.
They literally have the same fucking looks, same fucking sibling bonds, same relationships and even the same fucking scars
Reincarnation is the friendliest way to say they were resurrected lmao

>>281699173
And they are all missing their memories.

>>281699158
>Then explain why the manga alone — with zero help from the anime
No, and I'm not going to answer that intellectually dishonest question, because the manga sold 200 million BECAUSE of the anime
>Regarding the series' sudden huge success, Weekly Shōnen Jump editor-in-chief Hiroyuki Nakano stated that the manga sales shot up straight after its anime adaptation finished, explaining that a large number of people watched the series through streaming services after it ended rather than watching it weekly. Nakano also stated that currently is harder for a manga series running in the magazine to become a hit, and Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba despite having started in February 2016, did not became a major hit until late 2019, adding that its "success hinged on word of mouth generated after the anime's run".

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2020-02-11/jump-editor-in-chief-explains-what-unusual-about-demon-slayer-success/.156186

>>281683484 (OP)

All of them.

>>281699213
That logic doesn’t add up.
If it was all thanks to animation, the manga wouldn’t have hit 200M copies on its own. Other series with great anime, JJK, Spy x Family, CSM, Oshi no Ko, Frieren, never reached KnY’s numbers, and CSM’s sales even went down.
If anime alone was carrying, explain that.

>>281683484 (OP)
You can't blame the series. It's ending was rushed because it was being canceled

>>281699565
Now thats a new one

>>281683484 (OP)
unfortunately this is all animes

>>281699173
And they're completely different people

>>281683506
i hate naruto but the writing is much better than kny.

>>281697758
He had the body horror thing going for some time I think even though he usually didn't showcase it. What was actually nonsense was him just no-selling Douma's freezing particles because his lungs are tough or something. Even without the cold immunity Inosuke was blatantly supernatural and is hard to take seriously in the context of the manga's premise. I actually try to avoid discussion scaling and vs topics re KnY because of how horribly asspully made-up-on-the-fly it always is. It's somewhere between Bleach and Fairy Tail, that's how awful it is.

>>281683484 (OP)
Every shonen is about being from a strong bloodline. Even Naruto and Goku and Shinji.

>>281703104
Naruto writing was decent only when Zabuza arandc rest is dogshit.
Demon Slayer is way better.

>>281692791
It’s just pure jealousy that his favorite anime isn’t on KnY’s level.
Funny thing is, he always whines about Gotouge being a woman, yet his own behavior is the furthest thing from masculine, it’s literally the same jealous, spiteful mindset he projects onto women.

>>281683655
ufotable if it was animated by another studio it wouldn't have even sniffed the top spot

>>281687413
well for starters ufotable animators actually have a stable salary

>>281687413
the popularity csm would have had got sideswipped the hack director

>>281693473
a movie was a stupid fucking decision since it basically spoils the reze reveal hell normies already figured it out from the trailers alone

>>281692652
wow what season 1 was missing FUN

>>281702487
Different by 0.002%

>>281683655
PRETTY COLORS

>>281705087
Ufotable’s salaries are at a relatively high level, but they’re not at the very top. They’re not much different from MAPPA’s, and studios like A-1 Pictures or CloverWorks actually pay more.
People tend to forget that Ufotable is a small-scale company with a comparatively low number of employees to begin with.

>>281705296
CGI

Episode 19 went viral because the director removed all the crappy exposition from the manga that drags down the pacing of the fight. He knew this slop was trash.

>>281683484 (OP)
the only demon slayer i like is kpop demon hunters

>>281704858
Read this too, nigger. $30 billion in 2004.
My favorite series is sitting comfortably in the Top 5 most valuable media franchises on the planet ever and is worth more than...
>One Piece
>Naruto
>Bleach
>Demon Slayer
>My Hero Academia
>Jujutsu Kaisen
Combined together. It’s SO big and TOO powerful that Shueisha are trying to sabotage it because it overshadows every slop they pump out.

Just like Torishima said about SnK leaving a lot of noise but ZERO impact, Demon Slayer too left a lot of noise but ZERO impact. It's a series that lives and dies by Its anime and the second Aniplex are done milking it, the franchise will die and get memoryholed. Popular overrated slops comes and goes, Dragon Ball is eternal and will outlive every slop you like.

>>281687833
>>281688002
the fans of this shit are literally gay LEL.

Daily reminder that kimetsu can only exist in a vaccum of quality anime, will never surpass the big 3, and is only even entertaining at all bcus animation given the ABYSMAL writing.
Will be forgotten the SECOND it ends, and will never have anything even remotely iconic as a Kakashi, or a Goku.

>>281683484 (OP)
>actually, i came from a lineage of fire breathing powerhouse that can conveniently help me win this fight.
Didn't it turn out the fire breathing powerhouse guy just said Hi to his Dad once and the ear rings were a fakeout?

>>281685574
The movie is coming out

>>281687114
I don't know if I can buy this. They abandon too many plot lines.
> Muzan's family
> Other family Muzan lives with
> Tangero's Dad
I'm sure there were others

>>281687591
He needed more scenes where he spanked disobedient women

>>281708188
Muzan likes larping, that's explained in the extras.
He literally killed her husband and started fucking her because she was well connected.

>>281687732
There was like a month where every time you logged into Netflix it would automatically start playing the trailer for it

>>281683552
>if the author doesn't confirm le atheism is realz and there isn't an afterlife in the setting there's no stake

>>281683642
I liked it before it was animated
I know it's dogshit but it was just right somehow for me to enjoy it anyways

>>281698400
Don't misread my posts and make stupid replies, please. Nowhere did I state that his potential is hereditary, I merely stated the fact that he had the potential.

>>281708239
W
You're actually cool for admitting it's dogshit buy still like it despite it being dogshit

>>281707572
which ch?

>>281708233
>what is buildup?

>>281708095
And somehow you are the bigger faggot.

>>281683484 (OP)
>Advertised as Dark Fantasy
>There are over a dozen clips of Shounen-esque Humour.

>>281683484 (OP)
The point of all of these is actually very simple to figure out if you spend any time thinking about it. As long as your brain works right.
>The power of human tradition is more significant than demons' ill-gotten evil powers.
>Nezuko's powers are specifically anti-demon, they don't hurt humans, and can purge the evil from their bodies.
>Inosuke is funny
>Nezuko's special nature which has been brought up a countless number of times turns out to have been the exact thing Muzan has been searching for, ironically the only thing he desired was found in a demon who doesn't feed on humans and is free from his control.

>>281683484 (OP)
I like Kimetsu no Yaiba

>>281709523
>ghosts show up episode 4 and reincarnation episode 10
>need buildup at all to connect the dots that people go to heaven if they're killed

>>281708157
ye but it was his ancestor

>>281683484 (OP)
The series is dumb fun and you hate it.
Okay.

>>281687023
KnY Speed and length its one of its good points, no distractions, no fucking around. I'm sorry Light Novels have rotten your brain and now you think you need to waste 40 novels of lenght on sidequest bullshit that goes nowhere.

>>281708188
Is that really something that needs to be dug into?
Especially Muzan’s family, who cares? Once they’re no longer useful, you can be sure Muzan would have eaten them all.
The only thing that’s a bit curious is Tanjiro’s father, but even that can be explained simply as: “this man alone was exceptionally gifted.”
If you get hung up on things of this level, then you won’t be able to read other shōnen manga, especially JoJo.

>>281708095
>Will be forgotten the SECOND it ends

How long are you going to keep saying this? Since 2019, people have been saying that once the season ends, it’ll be forgotten within half a year, and now six years have passed.

>>281710099
it's dumb dumb

Wait, Jeremy is a DBSspic? Lmao, this actually explains his mental illness.

Does the show get better after the mugen train arc? I saw it a few weeks ago and i feel kinda indifferent to it despite the praise it got. This anime is kinda boring?

>>281712484
If you didn't like the movie, you are never going to like it no matter how many more episodes you watch.

>>281712484
Speaking about the quality of the story, Yes.
After the train arc and the introduction of the Upper moons, the story improves a lot.
Mostly due to the simple but effective lore getting unraveled step by step, the pillars being good and likable characters and the Upper moons being a real threat of a evil team.
Red light district get really heavily into how big is the gap between slayers and the UM.
You may find Swordsmith village a bit of a slog tho, since it is kinda the second worst arc after natagumo’s mountain in my opinion, but is very solid and introduces a lot of important things for the final arc.
The final arc, at least in the manga, it was great. So if your opinion over the story improved, the final three movies will be a wild ride for you

>>281712895
UM6 is a threat, but only at the level of a Hashira + some support. Only UM1 is a serious threat who carries a hard requirement of multiple Hashira to even stand up to. UM2 and UM3 only required a Hashira + support. UM5 even required only a single Hashira. So, all except UM1 can be easily handled by the Corps. UMs turned out to be just Espada -- hyped like crazy in the start of the arc but ended up being Captain to Captain + support level. The Corps maintained superiority up until Muzan -- who SHOULD have wiped them, but plot requirements can't let that happen so I tend to ignore it.

>>281710771
People only give a fuck about KnY when the anime is airing and when it's not on air, it gets memoryholed from the public's consciousness

It's one of the most forgettable shounen, only being famous for the animation and nothing else

>>281713092
>UM2 and UM3 only required a Hashira + support.
You mean crazy plans and extremely specific situations.

>>281710771
IS IT OVER YET YOU HOMOQUEER? WHY WOULD SLOP EATERS STOP TALKING ABOUT IT IF IT ISN'T HUH? ARE YOU DENSE SO YOU CAN COPE WITH REALITY A LITTLE BETTER?

>>281711894
who the fuck is jeremy you mentally ill retard, stop fighting shadows we are busy discussing garbage here.

>1 #KimetsuNoYaibaInfinityCastle $7.6M/$189.5M( -40% )(¥28.02B)
#3 movie in the national box office
11 days earlier than MT
Like a week until it hits 30 billion.

>>281713305
>Kimetsu no Yaiba is such an artistically empty work that the only thing it achieves is discussions about sales and box office
Kek

>>281713165
And yet when scaling strength we have no choice but to use displayed performance. The fact is, Akaza was brought to the brink by Kyojurou alone and was defeated by Giyu + support. It may have been TRASH writing but it's what we have.

>>281713305
You've doomed us to another 50 posts of ChatGPT bullshittery

>>281713674
>scaling strength
Yeah like you did with Yuta's mock cleave? Fucking retard

>>281713674
>brought to the brink by Kyojurou alone
Only because the sun was coming up while he was playing around. Akaza was in no way in danger otherwise.

>>281713179
5 more years

>>281713102
Not everyone lacks object permanence like you.

The Shinobu fight was trash. Ridiculous asspull. Here's how I'd asspull it in a much more engaging and dramatic way. There's no master plan to poison Douma via vore. She fights with her poisons, loses, and gets vored, the end -- except it's not. When Kanao and Innosuke show up, Douma has a great idea, and he spawns a clone....of Shinobou. This causes Douma to split his strength with the clone just like with Daki, Hentengu, etc but he thinks it's fine because these enemies aren't that strong. Demon Shinobou has the mind of the original except twisted by Douma who amps up her anger and directs it towards Kanao and Inosuke. What follows is a highly emotional clash with Demon Shinobou raging at them for their retardation, uselessness, weakness, blaming them for the reason why she had to fight Douma alone and turned out like this, etc. They go through an emotional ringer, but ultimately find the strength to move forward no matter what -- which makes Douma finally get bored with the play and effortlessly knocks both of them down. As he's about finish them off, his head suddenly falls off. Shinobu had cut it off from behind. With her demon strength and Douma splitting his power he wasn't able to resist being beheaded. Shinobou's rage and will had overcome Douma's control for an instant at having seen her beloved students stand up to overwhelming odds. But it's not over. Because she was still Douma's clone, she had to be beheaded as well or he would regenerate. Through a tremendously emotional scene Kanao and Inosuke take her head off and share a final goodbye as she dissolves away along with Douma.

>>281683484 (OP)
You are joking but this is the reason why the Train arc and Rengoku fight stood out for me, I thought this anime would have real stakes but then everything that happened in the Red District arc made me realize this is just a generic shonen, is not bad but Rengoku made me expect more desu.

>>281717386
You'll like the new movies then, the last two arcs are s fucking neat grinder.

>>281713102
That’s the case for pretty much any series. The franchises people are actively talking about right now are basically all ones where either the anime or the manga is still ongoing.

>>281713220
Hello Jeremy

>>281695952
Ha-ha-h-a ... n-no way. It was released two years ago.

>>281713326
If so, sales should’ve peaked at Mugen Train and tanked after.
So why is it still selling even harder five years later?
Time to face reality.
You lost.

Why couldn't kimetsu secure a chinese release if this shit could?

>>281718559
>Kimetsu no Yaiba is so devoid of any artistry that the only thing it has going in discussions is how much cash it makes
Lel

>>281718636
They'd have to literally redraw stuff (including every single instance of Tanjirou's earrings) and china takes like 90% of the box office

>>281718636
Imperial Japan setting and nationalism during the anniversary of the war between Japan and China? Are you nuts?

>>281719773
>Ignores all the discussion that has been happening the past couple threads including this one.

>>281718636
They probably really want everything within 50 years of WW2 to be about how shit and deserving of death their ancestors were like German media does.

>>281718636
Because if that were allowed, this anime, which puts Japanese culture front and center, would end up reaching MCU-level worldwide box office numbers, and that would be extremely inconvenient for the CCP.
The Chinese love for KnY is on another level.
It was also in China that pirated screen recordings of the Infinity Castle arc, filmed in Japanese theaters, spread widely on Chinese websites.
And not satisfied with that, nowadays there are even countless Chinese people going on “Kimetsu tours” to Taiwan and Hong Kong just so they can watch it in theaters.