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Anonymous No.281711983 >>281712018 >>281712056 >>281712166 >>281712233 >>281712244 >>281712307 >>281712385 >>281712428 >>281712442 >>281712463 >>281712489 >>281712505 >>281712706 >>281712735 >>281712746 >>281712863 >>281712975 >>281713041 >>281713364 >>281713563 >>281713730 >>281714314 >>281714328 >>281715417 >>281718215 >>281718425 >>281718871 >>281720403 >>281720568 >>281720765 >>281720893 >>281722184 >>281722862 >>281723288 >>281729753
>Retarded zoomiebabble faggotry now seeping into translations, even official ones

How do we save the industry?
Anonymous No.281712011 >>281712120 >>281720967
stan dropped before you were born however
Anonymous No.281712018 >>281712097 >>281712894
>>281711983 (OP)
How would you translate oshi?
Anonymous No.281712035 >>281712097 >>281720967
>waah I'm old and dumb and can't keep up with modern slang somebody save meeee
Anonymous No.281712056 >>281712120 >>281713263 >>281715417 >>281722382 >>281722382
>>281711983 (OP)
>stan
>gen Z slang
This has been used since the early 2000s, itโ€™s from the Eminem song
Anonymous No.281712097 >>281712140 >>281712221 >>281712423 >>281713848 >>281714707 >>281719125 >>281722106
>>281712018

>The one I like the most
>The one I'm most interested in
>My favourite
>My number one

There are plenty of ways to describe liking something without writing like an underage faggot.

>>281712035

It's not a matter of not being unable to understand it, the problem is that it's fucking retarded zoomer niggerbabble that's an insult to the English language.
Anonymous No.281712120 >>281712221 >>281712925 >>281713436 >>281713665 >>281714227 >>281722648
>>281712011
>>281712056
Bullshit, never saw it used as a verb like this modern bullshit till post-2020 at least.
Anonymous No.281712140 >>281723182
>>281712097
None of those are slang like oshi. That's why stan works better.
Anonymous No.281712166
>>281711983 (OP)
nah unc crashin out ong :skull:
Anonymous No.281712221 >>281721263
>>281712097
Maybe you shouldn't read stuff about and FOR zoomers then, eh?
>>281712120
Sounds like entirely a you problem
Anonymous No.281712228 >>281712270
>stories about teens use teen slang
What a twist!
Anonymous No.281712233
>>281711983 (OP)
What are you going to do about it, nu-boomer? Put off learning Japanese again?
Anonymous No.281712244 >>281712286 >>281712294
>>281711983 (OP)
Just learn Japanese you fucking retard, knowing enough to read manga is not hard since most mangas are literally for children.
Anonymous No.281712270 >>281712356
>>281712228
Except they don't, the faggot fucking western trannylators are the ones shoving in the zoomie linguistic rape.
Anonymous No.281712286
>>281712244
No, the government should do something about this.
Anonymous No.281712293 >>281712460 >>281722219
>slang japan :D
>slang west :c
Anonymous No.281712294 >>281712336 >>281712340 >>281712676 >>281719711 >>281721937
>>281712244
You will never read as fast in a foreign language as you do in your native one.
Anonymous No.281712307 >>281712787
>>281711983 (OP)
In the 2010s, I remember thinking that I'd consider things to be over when I saw the word "selfie" in an officially-translated piece of media. That ended up happening in summer 2016, in the manga Girl on the Shore.

Funny how these things work.
Anonymous No.281712336
>>281712294
Preventing speedreading is one more reason to read manga in Japanese
Anonymous No.281712340
>>281712294
>as fast
Are you in a race? Mommy allows you only 20 minutes of manga a day?
Anonymous No.281712356 >>281712460
>>281712270
You realise Japanese also has slang, right?
Anonymous No.281712380 >>281712514 >>281712541 >>281720967
>old slang good
>new slang bad
Anonymous No.281712385 >>281712620
>>281711983 (OP)
And? This is the dumb author that claims there's nothing inherently sexual from a vampire drinking blood from a girls neck
Anonymous No.281712423
>>281712097
Oshi is literally a slang term, why wouldn't you translate it to another slang term with the same meaning?
Anonymous No.281712428
>>281711983 (OP)
>now
>implying official ones weren't doing this shit all the time already
fuck off
Anonymous No.281712442 >>281712602
>>281711983 (OP)
>stan bad but zoomie good!
you seem underage
Anonymous No.281712460 >>281712908 >>281713301 >>281713810 >>281719031
>>281712356
Nothing as retarded as
>mid
>low-key
>stan
>rizz
>aura
though. This >>281712293 but unironically.
Anonymous No.281712463 >>281712912
>>281711983 (OP)
Is there a reason they couldn't just use the word "fave"? I always thought that was the closest accurate translation.
Anonymous No.281712489
>>281711983 (OP)
>How do we save the industry?
Maybe by realizing that your 30+ unc ass is not the target audience anymore? Manga isn't translated for your geriatric ass
Anonymous No.281712505
>>281711983 (OP)
>How do we save the industry?
We start a petition.
Anonymous No.281712514
>>281712380
Old slang was happenin'
New slang is cringe af ong
Anonymous No.281712519 >>281712544 >>281712578 >>281721263
>basement dwellers think stan is zoomer because they only use 4chan and don't know any terms outside of their bubble
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLZFdqwh7E
Anonymous No.281712541 >>281712775
>>281712380
Millennial and Gen Z slang is more intolerable than it's ever been because of how much it's permeated society. You didn't hear corporate CEOs in the 80s saying "COWABUNGA, MONDO COOL!!!!!!".
Anonymous No.281712544 >>281712615
>>281712519
>originated from that annoying fucking wigger
>still only took off as a term with zoomies
Thank you for making it clear what a kuso term it is.
Anonymous No.281712578
>>281712519
The term originating with Eminem makes it more insufferable, not less.
Anonymous No.281712585
Anonymous No.281712602
>>281712442
It doesn't say "zoomie" in the manga, now does it fagface?
Anonymous No.281712615
>>281712544
but people have no problem with "based"
Anonymous No.281712620 >>281712907
>>281712385
>Translation?
Anonymous No.281712676
>>281712294
anglocel moment
Anonymous No.281712706
>>281711983 (OP)
>It's a 40 something year old anon spazzing out when he realizes he's not the target audience for media
Same as it ever was
Anonymous No.281712735 >>281712769
>>281711983 (OP)
If you read manga for 13 yo girls you are supposed to find slang they use
Anonymous No.281712746
>>281711983 (OP)
I miss fansubs and translations that taught you about Japanese culture and Japan in general, that's all I have to say about his. I wish officialsubs and translations were like that
Anonymous No.281712769
>>281712735
I wholeheartedly believe I'd be better if they kept oshi and added a tlnote equating it to stan
Anonymous No.281712775 >>281712889 >>281713685
>>281712541
>because of how much it's permeated society
Yeah you're right, old slang terms never became a permanent part of language, like 'okay', 'cool', 'kid', 'movie', 'cop', 'geek' and many, many others
Anonymous No.281712787 >>281712857
>>281712307
Japan has a word for selfie, ่‡ชๆ’ฎใ‚Š. I couldn't blame anyone for translating that as "selfie" instead of "picture of myself"
Anonymous No.281712857 >>281713358
>>281712787
what's the romanji for that? I can't read moonspeak yet
Anonymous No.281712863
>>281711983 (OP)
Shouldn't you be spending time with your grandchildren?
Anonymous No.281712889 >>281713685
>>281712775
But those aren't slang because I grew up with them.
Anonymous No.281712894 >>281712930
>>281712018
You wouldn't. Normalfags should be made look up what it means instead of trying to find an American equivalent.
Anonymous No.281712907
>>281712620
>Writer?
Anonymous No.281712908
>>281712460
People your age in Japan think new Japanese slang is dumb too. You're just getting old.
Anonymous No.281712912 >>281713222 >>281713640 >>281722590
>>281712463
Is there a reason Japan couldn't just use the word "ichiban" or "okiniiri"? Oshi means "to push", as in push someone to become successful, which is retarded as well.
Anonymous No.281712925 >>281712976 >>281713436 >>281715417 >>281721263 >>281721612
>>281712120
It comes from Eminem in 2000, and then was widely used from there - Nas used it in Ether in 2001 and kpop spaces adopted it from the early 2010s. It's older than 4chan.
Anonymous No.281712930
>>281712894
Translations shouldn't exist at all, fuck normalfags
Anonymous No.281712975
>>281711983 (OP)
>now

I beg you to go back and read some official scans from the 90s and 2000s
Anonymous No.281712976
>>281712925
It's fucked up that it's even the go-to term, all things considered. I wonder how many Stans even know the context of the original song.
Anonymous No.281713041 >>281722661
>>281711983 (OP)
Nigga you're not the target audience anymore. Go read some actual books and be a boomer somewhere else.
Anonymous No.281713222
>>281712912
Japs are fucking autistic when it comes to idolizing people, there's a whole industry about it, that's why because actually believe it's a good thing obsessing over someone and think you have an actual relationship with that person. I

hate idolfags so much its unreal, just a couple chapters ago I wanted to gut out the golem nigger and skin him alive for his retarded behaviour
Anonymous No.281713263 >>281713382
>>281712056
Bad faith. Nobody said Stan even back then
Anonymous No.281713301
>>281712460
Low key this mid aura is all black ppl fr nobody in Japan talks like this. Nobody who reads manga talks like this
Anonymous No.281713358 >>281714287
>>281712857
install a dictionary addon
Anonymous No.281713364
>>281711983 (OP)
>Stan
>zoomer
Its been 25 years...
Anonymous No.281713382
>>281713263
Dude you're old as shit and it shows judging by the fact that you notice slang and trends like 4 years too late. If anything the word stan reached it's peak by the mid to late 2010s when the kpopers and other similar types would flood trends in all social media saying ''stan southkoreaplant number 343''. The translation even feels slightly dated nowadays.
Anonymous No.281713436 >>281713463
>>281712120
>>281712925
half true, people only started using as a -verb- in the mid-2010s or so
Anonymous No.281713463
>>281713436
A truth is a truth, you can't say it's only a half
Anonymous No.281713563
>>281711983 (OP)
>Stan
You called?
Anonymous No.281713640
>>281712912
Capitalism, as you literally buy your oshi the way to success. Literally just mad capitalism, Japanese are insane about showering corpos with money to maintain their parasocial relationships.
Anonymous No.281713665 >>281721263
>>281712120
Kinda jealous of this random third-worlder right now ngl
Anonymous No.281713685
>>281712775
>>281712889
As an oldfag, I remember the first time I recognized something as "slang" was when a kid said "sup" to me. I think I was around 10. All those other words are just normal to me.
Anonymous No.281713730
>>281711983 (OP)
Wow, itโ€™s almost like these types of manga are aimed at and read primarily by zoomers themselves. Itโ€™s so weird!
Anonymous No.281713810
>>281712460
>low-key
This is ancient one no?
>aura
What's wrong with aura?
Anonymous No.281713848
>>281712097
Man you sure are a fucking retard
Anonymous No.281714227
>>281712120
Me neither. I donโ€™t listen to rap so Iโ€™d never even heard of the song until around then.
Anonymous No.281714287 >>281714348 >>281714709 >>281715240
>>281713358
I don't install extensions other than adblock
Anonymous No.281714314
>>281711983 (OP)
Everyone in every corner of the earth, in every major city on every continent is now speaking like this. Sorry boomer, you have to adapt or die.
Anonymous No.281714328
>>281711983 (OP)
Your problem isn't with the translation in this case, because it tried its best to translate "oshi".
Your problem is with retarded zoomers and their retarded idol-/vtuberfaggotry and its brainrot and linguistic cancer making it into today's works.
In short, either get used to it or read something else.
Anonymous No.281714348 >>281714535
>>281714287
ublock origin*
Anonymous No.281714535
>>281714348
you know that's what I meant shill no need to type out the name
Anonymous No.281714654 >>281714722 >>281714817 >>281715522
Animu/mango is and always will be a millennial hobby, zoomzooms should fuck off back to fortnite or roblox or whatever faggotry is truly theirs.
Anonymous No.281714707
>>281712097
Translating an underage faggot slang into another underage faggot slang is only proper.
Anonymous No.281714709 >>281714770
>>281714287
good luck doing that on chrome
Anonymous No.281714722 >>281714811
>>281714654
Consuming shit is not a real hobby, dweeb.
Anonymous No.281714770
>>281714709
>implying
can we get back on topic already? I use this board to escape all the annoying brand shilling and fighting on /g/
Anonymous No.281714811 >>281714859
>>281714722
>Reading books, watching film, gourmet dining, and listening to bands you like can't be a hobby because it's just consooming
Fuck you're a retard.
Anonymous No.281714817 >>281714876
>>281714654
More like Gen X. I was watching anime laserdiscs and VHS while you were shitting your diapies, millennifag.
Anonymous No.281714859
>>281714811
>Reading books, watching film, gourmet dining, and listening to bands you like can't be a hobby because it's just consooming
Glad you understand :)
Anonymous No.281714876
>>281714817
Pre-90's anime was mostly pretty shit though, so very few X'ers adopted the hobby.
Anonymous No.281715240 >>281715671
>>281714287
Why?
Anonymous No.281715417 >>281715517 >>281715948 >>281716373 >>281720828
>>281711983 (OP)
Zoomer slang is nothing more than recycled ghettospeak that was already dead before they were even born. Just look at them awkwardly copy a wigger from the 2000s like itโ€™s some bold new invention>>281712056>>281712925
Original thought is beyond them so they rummage through the cultural trash heap and parade yesterdayโ€™s garbage as if it were their own
Anonymous No.281715474
>Koreans
Anonymous No.281715517
>>281715417
based
Anonymous No.281715522
>>281714654
Man, I loved Sliders, still mad they dropped Arturo in the middle of S3. Also shame we never got to see any sliders in the Haruhi anime (don't remember if there were any in the novels and haven't read the newest ones either).
Anonymous No.281715671
>>281715240
I'd rather blend my browser fingerprint with the average
Anonymous No.281715948 >>281716330
>>281715417
I was surprised to see "corny" make a comeback with zoomers. My aunt used to say that.
Anonymous No.281716330
>>281715948
I think that one's also used by millenials a lot, certainly in my bubble of kid show and tokusatsu enjoyers.
Anonymous No.281716373 >>281716397 >>281717195
>>281715417
>gen z/alpha makes slang I can't understand and it sucks
>gen z/alpha also brings back old slang, but it's slang I don't like so they're dumb for using it
Anonymous No.281716397
>>281716373
Yes
Anonymous No.281717195 >>281720181
>>281716373
That shows he's unbiased and not a hypocrite, no?
I never liked slang either. When I was a kid, as was discussed earlier in this thread, eminem and rap was super popular and kids wore saggy pants and had rap battles in the hallways and used hood slang. I always thought it was gay and cringe and I still think copying nogs and lowlifes is gay and cringe 20 years later.
Anonymous No.281718215 >>281718378
>>281711983 (OP)
By accepting they are probably translating the Japanese equivalent of Zoomerspeak in the first place.

You're reading series about teenagers. Teenagers talk like teenagers. If you don't want to read teenagers speaking in teenager slang, read different series not about teenagers.
Anonymous No.281718378 >>281718821 >>281718959
>>281718215
Just because the series are teenager doesn't mean that they have to act 1:1 identical with real ones. Media isn't real life. There's such a thing as aesthetics and fucking tone.
Anonymous No.281718425 >>281718501 >>281721263 >>281722804
>>281711983 (OP)
First of all, "stan" is not a contemporary Zoomer word like aura or rizz; it has been around for over 20 years and used in that same context. Secondly, the word they use in Japanese is ๆฒผใ‚‹, which is Japanese internet slang that means to become deeply obsessed with something/someone. So using "stan," which is also internet slang, is appropriate. Like clockwork, the people most vocal about translation are the ones who know jack shit about the language. Kill yourself.
Anonymous No.281718501 >>281718694 >>281720582
>>281718425
Retarded zoomer slang doesn't belong in manga, period.
Anonymous No.281718682 >>281718898
>bitter old man angry at young people for being young
A tale as old as time
Anonymous No.281718694 >>281721243 >>281721426
>>281718501
Buddy, you are an EOP, I don't give two fucks about your opinion. Either put in the effort and learn Japanese, or continue to cry about the translation made by people who are OBJECTIVELY more knowledgeable than you in this area. Those are you two options.
Anonymous No.281718821 >>281721973 >>281722215
>>281718378
So they should translate everything into 19th century formal vernacular then? Would you be happier if the characters clearly meant to be or be like modern Japanese youths went around saying 'Prithee' and sounding like Bronte characters?
Anonymous No.281718871 >>281720545
>>281711983 (OP)
>faggot soilennial lecturing zoomers yet again as if they did it participate in ridiculous slang when they were younger
Itโ€™s a single term that doesnโ€™t even register compared to other slang used by this generation or the previous ones. Past a certain age, you should feel obligated to not sperg out over something that trivial, but thatโ€™s too much to ask for a 40 something reading some stock high school romcom with light cuck shit.
Anonymous No.281718898 >>281719705
>>281718682
no cap unc on some crash out type shit *flosses*
Anonymous No.281718959
>>281718378
Take it to author then, not the translators
Anonymous No.281719031
>>281712460
This anon didn't watch Maebashi Witches. The characters in that sound like absolute retards in Japanese with all the slang. That's by far the anime I've seen with the most slang.
Anonymous No.281719060
EPIC WIN!
Anonymous No.281719071
>Zoomers defend using ghetto slang, then act shocked when people dislike it.
Also, just because a word was slang once doesnโ€™t mean it makes sense now. โ€œBirdโ€ used to mean โ€œgood,โ€ but if I started saying that today and nobody understood, the problem would be with me. Words only work if people actually know what they mean. If someone has to Google everything you say, youโ€™re not communicating efficiently, and thatโ€™s a failure on your part.
Anonymous No.281719125
>>281712097
>the problem is that it's fucking retarded zoomer niggerbabble that's an insult to the English language.
"Zoomer" and other -oomerisms are also retarded, unintelligible insults to the English language. You're right about "stan" not being a proper verb, but don't be a hypocrite.
Anonymous No.281719192 >>281719309
I donโ€™t even care, zoomers your slang is objectively reatrded and everyone hates it. I cannot recall a single other time in human history when a generationโ€™s โ€œslangโ€ was so universally reviled.
Anonymous No.281719284
>Thread of people getting mad that they translated jap zoomer slang into english zoomer slang
hilarious
Anonymous No.281719309 >>281719368
>>281719192
>I cannot recall a single other time in human history when a generationโ€™s โ€œslangโ€ was so universally reviled.
Everyone generation of youth's slang was "universally reviled" you just didn't live as an adult during that generation. You aren't special and this era isn't special
Anonymous No.281719368 >>281720243
>>281719309
>So what if we speak in ghetto Ebonics?
I never once heard complaints about millennials slang at any point in my life and thatโ€™s not a lie. People bitch about your slang constantly. Cope all you want you talk like retarded rappers and itโ€™s not endearing itโ€™s fucking annoying
Anonymous No.281719705
>>281718898
the use of unc is likely older than anyone posting here
Anonymous No.281719711
>>281712294
I mean it is possible to get to that level. I'm glad at that though to some extent since it allows me to spend more time on a work and is a natural barrier preventing me from speedreading even if I try not to as much as possible.
Anonymous No.281719882
Anonymous No.281719998
Someone post the MHA page where a character uses a bunch of modern slang that people complained about because of the translation.
Anonymous No.281720181 >>281720337
>>281717195
>when I was a kid I was a gay loser faggot who never โ€œgotโ€ slang because I was always out of touch and lame
>now that Iโ€™m a manchild I am still a gay loser faggot and I still donโ€™t get slang, not just because I am old but also because I am still out of touch and lame
Oh boo hoo, nobody cares.
>I still think copying nogs and lowlifes is gay and cringe 20 years later.
And look, racism against black people in your post, what a surprise! Fat acne ridden virgin boy was mad at the popular basketball player for fucking his crush, right? And now that boy, older and fatter and sadder, never moved on and thinks itโ€™s cool to call people racial slurs on the internet. Not irl though since youโ€™d chicken out, fucking pussy. Microdick loser kill yourself. Lmao going around calling people cringe while reading chinese comic books pathetic
Anonymous No.281720243
>>281719368
Go eat your avocado toast soillennial
Anonymous No.281720337
>>281720181
First half of the post is right but the rest makes you sound like an upset hood rat.
Anonymous No.281720403
>>281711983 (OP)
I don't believe for a moment anyone cares about this lol g8/b8
Anonymous No.281720545
>>281718871
Not the faggot you're replying to but I and anyone I care to keep in my social circle never gave a fuck about fitting in, trends or talking in the latest slang.
Not everyone is a mindless parrot devoid of a sense of self.
Anonymous No.281720568
>>281711983 (OP)
>How do we save the industry?
Take it into our own hands like scantalators have been doing for decades
Anonymous No.281720582
>>281718501
You sing the praises of anime and manga for having artistic freedom and not succumbing to western ideals and sensibilities but once artists actually start to exercise that freedom you shit and piss yourself. Very interesting.
Anonymous No.281720765
>>281711983 (OP)
Early zoomers are pushing their 30s anon. You should start using another world for "young people I don't like.
Anonymous No.281720828
>>281715417
desu that happens with every generation
Anonymous No.281720893 >>281721271
>>281711983 (OP)
It's funny when weebs discover that the holy land of Japan also has their own version of zoombabble.
Anonymous No.281720967 >>281721012 >>281721107 >>281722563
>>281712011
>>281712035
>>281712380
Gen Z slang is objectively worse then any other slang in the history of English language for one simple reason.

It is recycled ebonic babble, and terminally online social media garbage that would be embarrassing to say outloud in real life that is seeping into the English language, along with ESL retardation destroying how the English language ought to function.
Anonymous No.281721012 >>281721509
>>281720967
Wait until you find out how much of 20th century slang came from black people, ie "ebonic babble". Some of which, the stuff that didn't go out of style, you likely still use today without even knowing it.
Anonymous No.281721107
>>281720967
[ะŸะตั‡ะฐะปัŒะฝั‹ะต ะ˜ะทะฒะตัั‚ะธั], desu!
Engrish has fallen.
Anonymous No.281721243 >>281721293
>>281718694
Served his ass so hard he couldn't reply
Anonymous No.281721263 >>281721314 >>281721423 >>281721782 >>281723321
>>281712925
>>281712221
>>281713665
>>281712519
>>281718425


Why you faggots trying to rewrite history and pretend that anyone outside of subhumans in Detroit ever used "stan" as a verb at any point before 2020? Eminem was popular in the early to mid 2000s in Jr High and I have NEVER head anyone used the word "stan" like that ever.

Here are some other trends in the English language that started in the late 2010s that aren't normal but dumbasses like you will normalize just because these are words that have been around for a while.

Using the word "folk" as a replacement for people.
Using "singular they" and ignoring that the neutral singular pronoun is "it" or "he".
Unironically formatting pronouns like you/fag
Anonymous No.281721271
>>281720893
Thats not the issue, the problem is with interpreting instead of translating and informing the reader of their culture
Anonymous No.281721293
>>281721243
He has strongest aura ITT.
Anonymous No.281721314 >>281721593
>>281721263
For one I can vouch of having heard and see (specially on Twitter) of the word stan being used as a verb as earlie as 2015 with the kpop cuckoos
Anonymous No.281721356
early* I'm sleep deprived
Anonymous No.281721423
>>281721263
great bait but also exemplary post of someone with too much time on their hands and or not enough going on in their life
Anonymous No.281721426
>>281718694
nta but I'm learning for this very reason, they have more technical knowledge however it seems modern translators care only about interpreting and not translating while trying to keep some of the source culture, it sucks but it is what is the industry took a wrong turn and I can't help but refuse to like it
Anonymous No.281721509 >>281721602 >>281721819 >>281722563
>>281721012
I am aware, that is not some secret knowledge you retarded American.

Thankfully, Whites selected out the more stupid ebonics out of the English language. Ebonics inherently is gross because its basically africans trying to adapt the English language to their smaller prefrontal cortex brains. OP has every right to be disgusted, its like imagine if we started getting English translations of manga, and they all speak like blacks. Zoomer slang is terminally online ebonics, often repeated by ESL. This degregation of the English language on the net is something that isn't discussed often enough, but I'm sure its something anyone who is a native speaker of English has noticed.
Anonymous No.281721530 >>281722927
People who complain about this are the same people who clap when "ใƒชใ‚ขๅ……" gets translated as "normalfag." It's hypocritical.
Anonymous No.281721593 >>281721711
>>281721314
>specially on Twitter
Anonymous No.281721602
>>281721509
Epic post.
Anonymous No.281721612
>>281712925
Top kek. Imagine the bullying for a millennial teen trying to explain to his peers that he was using a new word coined by eminem.
Anonymous No.281721624 >>281721839
If you don't know Japanese at this point and still roam here, you are sub-human.
Anonymous No.281721711 >>281729061
>>281721593
Twitter have been around since '06, what's your point? He said no one before 20s outside of detroit and I saw and lived evidence of that being wrong
Anonymous No.281721782
>>281721263
>Using "singular they" and ignoring that the neutral singular pronoun is "it" or "he".
No matter how much you people say this it will never be true. I've been hearing it since at least the early 00s but given how young I was then it definitely was used prior to that in everyday conversation. And given how much people try to keep it from being used in formal papers and documents that just shows how normalized it's always been.
Anonymous No.281721819
>>281721509
>it's okay because it happened before I was born and I've been speaking like that my entire life
This is the essence of this entire conversation and on the topic of slang (and language change) in general.
Anonymous No.281721839
>>281721624
>JSL
>knows Japanese
Anyone on 2chan/5ch can spot your dogshit japoonese, """knower""".
Try to learn better skill if you want to impress strangers.
Anonymous No.281721913
I'm surrounded by fucking bots I'm the only real one here
Anonymous No.281721937
>>281712294
EOP moment.
Anonymous No.281721973 >>281722029
>>281718821
>THEY MUST EITHER SOUND LIKE RETARDED ZOOMER FAGGOTS OR SOUND LIKE SHAKESPEARE!
Shut the fuck up with your stupid strawman, retarded faggot. This slang is cringe, these characters are not meant to be talking like this. You can't just throw in slang wherever and expect it to work. There's such a thing as aesthetics and fucking tone. Clearly, your zoomer retard brain knows nothing of either.
Anonymous No.281722018
>cringe
>millennial trash filtered by Shakespeare
Anonymous No.281722029 >>281722063
>>281721973
But people like you argue that Japanese gen z slang shouldn't be translated as American gen z slang. That is the definition of preserving aesthetics and tone. Not just ignoring it because you don't like the equivalent American slang.
Anonymous No.281722063 >>281722087
>>281722029
>But people like you argue that Japanese gen z slang shouldn't be translated as American gen z slang.
Yes
>That is the definition of preserving aesthetics and tone.
No, it isn't you fucking retard. It's cultural vandalism.
Anonymous No.281722087 >>281722106 >>281722160
>>281722063
So if it shouldn't be translated as American gen z slang then how should it be translated? What is your solution that preserves aesthetics and tone?
Anonymous No.281722106 >>281722138
>>281722087
>>The one I like the most
>>The one I'm most interested in
>>My favourite
>>My number one
This post right here gave some good suggestions.
>>281712097
It's hilarious how hard you have to reach to defend this shit.
Anonymous No.281722138 >>281722268
>>281722106
That's only one example, but even then, you're translating slang to non-slang, which is not preserving aesthetics and tone. If the character sounds like a retarded internet poster in the Japanese then them sounding like a retarded internet poster in English is preserving the aesthetics and tone.
Anonymous No.281722143
MY NUMBER ONE (not oshi but who cares)!
Anonymous No.281722160 >>281722191
>>281722087
Keep it as oshi and a fucking tlnote, that is the only way to keep cultural significance
Anonymous No.281722184
>>281711983 (OP)
>stan the most
They didn't even use the term right.
captcha: yrap
Anonymous No.281722191 >>281722291
>>281722160
What would the translation note be? Keep in mind you need to portray the character saying it as a retarded gen z person since that's how they're speaking in the Japanese.
Anonymous No.281722215
>>281718821
>So they should translate everything into 19th century formal vernacular then? Would you be happier if the characters clearly meant to be or be like modern Japanese youths went around saying 'Prithee' and sounding like Bronte characters?
yes
Anonymous No.281722219
>>281712293
correct, yes, unironically. yes, it's actually possible for one thing to be good and another thing to be bad.
Anonymous No.281722268 >>281722389
>>281722138
Actually it still would be preserving aesthetics and tone because zoomer speak is fucking garbage.
>NNOOO THEY MUST SOUND LIKE MUP DA DOO DIDA
No. Those translations sound far better than the zoomer slang being forced in.
Anonymous No.281722291 >>281722389
>>281722191
You can equate it to stan on the tlnote for all I care if you don't want to write too much, but the point is to stop translating slang, proper nouns and names of things.
Anonymous No.281722339 >>281722396
Gentleman, another case of disgusting cringe cultural vandalism.
>Susukussy

Dogshit zoomer slang no cap frfr.
>Susukomanko

The correct translation is
>The Vagina of Mrs. Susuko
Anonymous No.281722382
>>281712056
It was obscure until 2020
Then the terminally online zoomers found it since they were locked away for 1-2 years
>>281712056
>This has been used since the early 2000s, itโ€™s from the Eminem song
Being "a stan" was
But "stanning" as a verb is a 2020 thing, mostly due to the rise of kpop in the US social media space.
Anonymous No.281722389 >>281722528
>>281722268
You're still ignoring the fact that they sound retarded in Japanese just because you hate how modern people speak in English.
>>281722291
At some point you're going to end up with the dialogue being half in Japanese if you just stop translating things because you don't like the best fitting translation. I'm all for not translating some terms if there's issues but the only issue here is non-Japanese speakers not wanting retarded sounding Japanese slang translated to retarded sounding English slang because they were bullied in school by a white kid that spoke in ebonics.

It's always funny seeing on /a/ people getting upset about completely accurate translations because they think everyone in Japanese speaks entirely formally and with no slang.
Anonymous No.281722396
>>281722339
this vn is trash all around
zoomer lingo is the least your worries.
Anonymous No.281722527
>lowercase poster no punctuation
>dogshit post
Don't (You) me, trash.
Anonymous No.281722528 >>281722588 >>281722614
>>281722389
There is a very real issue here beyond some nigger having a hate boner for zoomies, if you interpret slang you lose all cultural significance. Having an oshi is not the same thing as a stan, theyre very similar but oshis come from idol culture and japs are very autistic about that, as much as I hate idolniggers this is something that needs to be kept if you simply use stan then everyone assumes different and issues arises, most people actually believe to have an actual relationship (as in friends) with their oshi while stans dont
Anonymous No.281722563 >>281723211
>>281720967
>>281721509
>triggered by "muh ebooniks!"
>complains about "amuhricuns" outta nowhere
You have to go back
Anonymous No.281722588 >>281722638 >>281722749
>>281722528
And this is an actually good explanation and not just retarded "I hate how black people talk" blabbering that typically fill threads like these. If only this kind of criticism was more widespread when talking about how to translate slang instead of how it usually goes.
Anonymous No.281722590
>>281712912
i always thought it (oshi) was korean. i don't know any korean, but it just "felt" korean for some reason.
Anonymous No.281722614
>>281722528
My favorite stan
Anonymous No.281722638 >>281722707
>>281722588
Yeah well I've tried to make this point five times on this thread already, but I'm surrounded by bots it seems (not you who actually read)
Anonymous No.281722648
>>281712120
Stupid zoomer.
Anonymous No.281722661
>>281713041
mango is the actual books of millennials and gen x, it's a new boomer medium. webtoons are more of your time thing.
Anonymous No.281722679 >>281722753 >>281722832 >>281722870
>Noooo, they used zoomer slang, anime is ruined
Anonymous No.281722707
>>281722638
>(not you who actually read)
Anonymous No.281722717
sometimes manga gets too weird man...
Anonymous No.281722749 >>281722775
>>281722588
But yeah like an example can be found a couple chapters ago whit that golem dude, he's behaviour is normal shes my oshi stuff (which is absolutely fucking autistic, borderline creepy, and I hate that guy with a passion) but not for stans, if back then when would've referred to ogami as his stan and then proceeded to say all that stuff and behave like he did it would not make a lick of sense beyond that dude being a creepy weirdo obsessed with someone, because that's not how stans work
Anonymous No.281722753
>>281722679
Soul.
Anonymous No.281722775
>>281722749
jfc i really need to sleep I'm sorry for all the grammar murder I just did but I can't be bothered to fix it, you can read it properly I hope
Anonymous No.281722804
>>281718425
you do realize gen z started in 1997? 2005 is right in the middle of gen z/zoomer time.
Anonymous No.281722832
>>281722679
This is funny though so itโ€™s okay.
Anonymous No.281722862 >>281722901 >>281722951
>>281711983 (OP)
Hey retard, fantls have always done this. This is, in fact, a majority of the reason why official TLs do it, because those same fans got real jobs in the industry.
Anonymous No.281722870
>>281722679
I want to fucking die
Anonymous No.281722901
>>281722862
I remember Ebisu in Dorohedoro talked like this too in the fan translation.
Anonymous No.281722927
>>281721530
REEers gonna REE.
Anonymous No.281722951
>>281722862
You now remember when the guys doing the dominant speedscans for every major manga wrote shit like this
Anonymous No.281723117
I figured out when I was younger, I was more willing to accept new things and use them immediately
I realize that the older people get, the less willing they are to learn new things, especially if they already have something similar for that idea already and are much more critical at using anything new to them
Anonymous No.281723182
>>281712140
can you use oshi as a verb like stan?
Anonymous No.281723211
>>281722563
you don't think too much, do you? gen z slang (this thread) is adapted ebonics, and ebonics is an uniquely american thing. thus gen z slang is american slang, which is why he's talking about americans.
the world wasn't so globalized 30 years ago. i grew up under soviet union's influence for example and internet wasn't even properly available here outside of extremely expensive and slow dial up until sometime in the 2000s when i was already adult, so even though i fit your early millennial time, it'd make me at best a russia-aligned ""millennial"" lookalike.
Anonymous No.281723288
>>281711983 (OP)
>t. Has lived under a rock xis entire life
Anonymous No.281723321
>>281721263
ESLbro...
Anonymous No.281723458 >>281724513
all of you are bots I fucking hate it here
Anonymous No.281724513 >>281724755
>>281723458
4chan shoulda stayed dead after the hack. We could have been free.
Anonymous No.281724755 >>281725872
>>281724513
You can become free anytime
Anonymous No.281725872
>>281724755
>Implying
We're trapped here till someone breaks the servers and releases our souls.
Anonymous No.281726008 >>281727140
Anonymous No.281727140
>>281726008
And I wouldn't have it any other way
Anonymous No.281727531 >>281727944
Is this even a real page?

Translator/localizer threads are all agitprop and should be banner
Anonymous No.281727640
>my feelings force me to remind you that in fact I DO NOT CARE
Anonymous No.281727944
>>281727531
if "agitprop" was to be banned, every single pro-lgbt thread and the entire lgbterrorist userbase would have to be banned.
Anonymous No.281729061
>>281721711
It's like if I said "I saw it on 4chin". Whatever slang or speech I see on 4chin is -not- indicative of how people talk normally and that is the topic of contention, does anyone actually use the slang.
Anonymous No.281729753
>>281711983 (OP)
jp page where?