Thread 281757167

>>281757167 (OP)
if she actually looked like that, i'd jack off to her anime

...said no Elf ever

>>281757167 (OP)
Somebody should help save the elven race

OH NOES

>>281757646
i've jerked off to images like this of frieren before

>>281757646
The mimics evolved as a means to help get elves pregnant.

>>281757173
Anon don't summon the Tolkien Autists

>>281757182
Do you think this ecchi shitposting dump thread has any relation to the actual manga?

>>281757672
...what

>>281757688
They're gonna hit you with a treatise on elven sexual biology, a detailed analysis on the average number of Elf children per generation from the moment they woke up in Cuiviénen, and citing how Fëanor alone sired seven children.
I know this because I am a lesser breed of Tolkien Autists.

>>281757778
what the fuck

>>281757686
To be honest Frieren is a loner who spent centuries alone innawoods.
Maybe she's and exception.

>>281757674
Hairy...

>>281757785
You don't lurk the average /a/ Elf thread eh?

>>281757167 (OP)
>I MUST BREED
Why are living beings like this?

>>281757795
Ask this guy about his elfen sons and daughters.

>>281757904
Maybe this author can only write autists who can't live among people for too long.

>>281757944
The author is just bad, he wants elves to be rare for the story to work, so they just die out for no apparent reason given. This is a story about humans after all.

At this point humans should just start capturing elves and breed them inside zoos.

>>281757956
>he wants elves to be rare for the story to work
But why tho?
Elves don't seem special to me in Frieren.
It's not like Tolkien where they're literally superior to every other race in every single metric, races in Frieren are balanced by having niches.

>>281757956
>they just die out for no apparent reason given
They literally got near genocided by demons
>This is a story about humans after all.
It's about Frieren, as the title suggests
You didn't even watch the anime, did you

>>281757646
I need some strips of Aura being as dorky with Mimics as Frieren as a demon counterpart to her.

She spend the majority of her 80 years after the demon king's death ending up in Mimics instead of rebuilding her forces.

>>281757978
>Elves don't seem special to me in Frieren
Yeah, they are japanese elves. Pointy eared humans with some extra lifespan that never amounts to anything.
>>281757981
>They literally got near genocided by demons
Not a justification for having no sex-drive, the opposite actually. Frieren and Kraft should be working on that right away.
>You didn't even watch the anime
Read the manga, watched the anime. This is a story about humans from the perspective of an elf.

>>281757978
>why tho?
Because its symptomatic of the heroic age being over.

>>281758033
>Not a justification for having no sex-drive
Yes it is, it's how you balance having a long lived creature not over populating the world
It's fantasy world building 101, straight over your tiny head though

>>281757981
>They literally got near genocided by demons
Every heard of Baby Boomers?
Every civilization ever sees huge spikes of breeding after a large loss of lives.
If anything there would be more elves after such a warm and most of them very young for their lifespan.

>>281758052
It's well established that there are so few elves left they can go for centuries without seeing another another even when travelling the world, many of the humans have never seen one before Frieren bumps into them
Again, just watch the anime, this isn't some hidden lore thing. You are literally told this, explicitly

>>281758048
>it's how you balance having a long lived creature not over populating the world
This is retarded, we know that's not how it works because we have worldbuilding autist supreme, Tolkien, whose elves hard a lot of children and the world is far from being overpopulated.
Hell, Middle-Earth is actually extremely underpopulated compared to Europe at any point of history, even during the Black Plague: this is because there's a giant continent-spanning disaster or a super bloody war every other day, and basically Middle-Earth is in a constant state of post-apocaliptic struggle.
So no, Frieren has shit worldbuilding

>>281758048
>it's how you balance
That's what I'm talking about, this is bad world-building. This is no video game, there needs to be an in-universe reason for them having no sex-drive.
Like, they have absolutely zero. It makes it questionable how elves ever actually managed to have a population. But they once existed, somehow, then got near genocided, and then never thought "hey, maybe we should meet and fuck each other to produce more of us." No, they are just dying because the author says so. It's so artificially constructed, bad world-building.

Anybody else getting sick of yoga pants?

>>281758083
>It's well established that there are so few elves left they can go for centuries without seeing another
In a world with magic as versatile as Frieren this is meaningless. They would find a way to find each other and breed.
The only explanation is that every single elf alive saw their own people getting genocided by demons and instead of trying to find other members of their own race like any sane creature would, and thus making a united Elf community, they just said
>Oh well, that's life I Guess
And kept being autistic loners

>>281758094
>Tolkien, whose elves hard a lot of children
If you are going to pretend to be a Tolkien autist then at least have some clue what you are talking about. This is not accurate at all

Most Tolkien elves had very few children across their lifetime, apart from a few exceptions in the early period when Tolkien wanted to boost their numbers beyond initial couples.
The elves gradually had less children as the generations went down, he explicitly gives the reasons for this as being - child birth literally sapping the life energy from elves and so they wouldn't have many

This is again so that they didn't over populate the world, Galadriel has one child, Elrond has one child, Legolas is an only child, Celebrimbor, Gil-galad, Cirdan had no children.
He killed off all the big families of the early periods and the later periods he made them a declining population from getting killed by far, leaving Middle-earth (essentially death) and very low birth rates. Pretty similar to Frieren really

>>281758158
By a lot of children I meant that they never stopped reproducing until the very end, when they started the migration towards Valinor.
Elves had a lot of wars and they kept forming communities after disasters, something that apparently never happened in Frieren some some reason.

>>281758099
>they have absolutely zero sex drive
Not true, this is never stated. Just that they have lower sex drive compared to humans
I mean if you just use your brain for a second you would know that your statement is utterly retarded, there would be no elves in the show of they had no sex drive. How would any be born?

>>281758158
>Elrond has one child
I'm not going to check the others, because I simply don't remember. But Elrond had three. You only watched the movies. Arwen was not his only child, he had two other sons that Aragorn spend a lot of time with during his training.

>>281758197
>Not true, this is never stated
>>281757686
>there would be no elves in the show of they had no sex drive. How would any be born?
That's my fucking point, you imbecile. It's bad world-building. Don't give me this "use your brain" when you are unable to read a manga page and also apparently have trouble understanding that a fictional world is a constructed thing.

>>281758185
>Elves had a lot of wars and they kept forming communities after disasters, something that apparently never happened in Frieren some some reason.
There are literally three elves we ever see across an entire continent or that anyone even knows about. That should tell you how many there are left in the world
How do you make a community of three? Especially when two don't want to be anywhere near each other.

>>281758240
>Don't give me this "use your brain"
But you're coming across a total dumbass that is struggling to follow basic logic of manga written for Japanese children. Wtf do you want me to say?

>>281758255
>three elves we ever see across an entire continent or that anyone even knows about
Ah, you're a movie watcher.
Stop wasting my time.

>>281758107
I am. She should take them off.

>>281758271
There is not a single counter-argument in your post.
Sousou no Frieren has bad world-building. Especially when it comes to its elves.

>>281758197
>they have lower sex drive compared to humans
Which makes no sense if they are so rare in the first Place: being so uncommon for two elves to meet would make so that their sex drive would need to be higher, so that the rare opportunity for a successful sexual act will always happen

>>281757167 (OP)
>No nudity or fanservice at all not even in the manga (only part of her back)
Lame, fantasy stories need some nudity and fanservice even 90s Isekai/fantasy stuff like Those Who Hunt Elves, Dragon Half and El Hazard had nudity, heck even Ruri Hoshino the girl that Frieren ripped off got naked for a brief scene in the Nadesico movie

>>281758320
Based

>>281758296
>Which makes no sense if they are so rare in the first
The only reason they are rare is because demons were ordered to exterminate them and were near successful.
Lack of sex drive is literally not the main issue
If you reduced the human population to three people they would very likely go extinct too

The low sex drive shouldn't even be a real issue, as an intelligent species like elves are should by all means find a way to reproduce even if they don't feel the biological impulse to if it's necessary for survival. But Frieren elves just don't seem to give a shit either way, they're just disappear because fantasy elves are supposed to even if the author can't think of a logical reason because the worlbuilding sucks.

Frieren is a work by an oldschool record of lodoss fan in which Frieren is both a stand-in for Deedlit -who canonically outlives the rest of the party- and slso for the composer themself, having a discussion about the fantasy genre and how taking it for granted sucks all the magic out of it and results in characters utterly unimpressed by the things that make fantasy fantastical

>>281758437
Deedlit had high sex drive, she wanted to fuck Parn as soon as she met him and was the proactive one.
Also, I doubt your analysis that Frieren Is some sort of commentary on fantasy has any basis in reality

>just breed
'no'

>>281758347
Uh oh someone read the plot correctly

>>281758347
Elfs can breed with other races?
If half-elves can exists, then even if three elves survive they can breed with humans and the elf race can go on.

>>281758486
>Deedlit had high sex drive
Nothing indicates that and they had no kids.
The only half-elf in Lodoss has an elfen father.
>>281758534
>Elfs can breed with other races?
No indication that half-elves exist in Frieren.

>>281758293
Why is it bad?

>>281757861
billions of years of evolutionary pressure

>>281757861
Demiurgic lies.

>>281757861
the ones that weren't didn't breeed, duh

>>281758486
>>281758437
Frieren is clearly extremely Tolkien style.

It is more about the journey and the slice of life and how they interact and action is only an occasional thing.

>>281757672
>plural
It's just one schizo

>>281757173
She looks like that under her clothes.

>>281757861
Uuoooooooohh pregnancy erotic! Motherly hormones and proliferating my genes....erotic!

>>281757861
Life is nothing but molecules that evolved to self-replicate. This is the defining quality of life, everything else is window dressing.

>>281759341
>Frieren is clearly extremely Tolkien style
She's a womanlet who's physically weaker than the average human, has never been heard singing, she's not autistic about boats despite her hair being silver, her race cannot return from death but they're permanently gone and doesn't view dwarves with suspicion despite being a wood-dwelling Elf.
How in the world is she Tolkienian in any way?

>>281758534
Half elves exist, they are called demons.
Serie as the goddess of creation fucked the demons into existence.
Which is why she never killed the demon king despite being stronger than him, it is also why he is so much older than even an old demon.
Remember that Aura with an age above 500 but below 600 was considered long lived for demons.
She was a shit mother and only cared about making him strong, so she abused him.
This is also why he decided to genocide the elves, but wanted to understand his human side.
The demons killed humans, but never had a need to, they still follow his orders, but never actually conquer and hold anything.
Aura is a good example, what did she want with Granats city?
Obviously humans are not a primary or necessary food source yet they always engaged humans, but never conquered them.
The demon lord did not order them to exterminate humans, he wanted to understand them and the only way he knew seems to have been combat.

>>281757167 (OP)
But isn't she almost assexual? And her race as a whole? The reason why despite living for almost forever, they are dying out?

>>281759420
This is better worldbuilding than whatever Frieren has

>>281759410
You are comparing the species, I am comparing the world building and style of the story that is told or better how it's told and progresses.

Tolkien did not create dwarves, elves, orcs the like.
Tolkien can be credited from turning orcs, originally pig demi humans that were merchants and a representation of jews in lore into corrupted cannibalistic monsters and fighters.

Elves belong to human men

>>281759518
>I am comparing the world building and style of the story that is told or better how it's told and progresses.
There are zero similarities between Frieren and any of the texts Tolkien produced.
>orcs, originally pig demi humans that were merchants and a representation of jews in lore
Absolutely fucking not, you are a retard for even suggesting something so totally wrong.

>>281759549
Obviously an olderly men of 80 years or even one in the 115 year area like Heiter can technically bmstill breed and make offspring.
But human women become barren at around 40.
While the eternally young elvish women can breed with hundreds of generation of men without going infertile.

>>281759562
Yes LotR is just a shonen with one fight and training arc after the other.
The characters never rest or talk about nonsense like what they eat or like to snack upon.
Similar hobbit wasn't half the time about how the group lost their food and was starving on their journey.
He also didn't waste pages on describing his slow neighbor and best friend representation or the beauty of the women being a representation of his wife.

You probably think Amazon's slop rings of power is actually Tolkien.

>>281757173
>muh adhd

>>281759549
t. dwarf.

Stop posting offtopic shit and fuck off back where you came from.

>>281757167 (OP)
>>281757189
>>281757646
>>281757861
>>281758033
>>281758320
Tell me your favorite arc in frieren, go.

me in the middle

>>281760142
Golden Lands is clearly the best

>>281757167 (OP)
>0 tits
>negro ass
Why are americans so obsessed with asses?

>>281759426
They reproduce very slowly and we're genocided 1000 years ago.
Less than one elves lifespan ago.

Elven fashion sense.

>>281757167 (OP)
Female elves have the body of 12 year old girls in frieren

>>281762957
Out of ten

>>281762957
If you think Serie looks like she is a 12 year old girl I question where you live.

>>281757167 (OP)
elfbutt

>>281757167 (OP)
This but with Serie

>>281763128
8 years old?

Newest chapter dropped and wow when this happened I was surprised

>>281757646
>the jaw closes, her body jerks as her stomach is impaled by the teeth
>(x-ray view: mimic's tongue invades her mouth)
>her legs are kicking and flailing and pussy dripping as she is being deepthroated
>the movements become increasingly sluggish as she bleeds out as the strength of her body fades

>autistic midget becomes the most famous elf in fantasy
How did she do it?

>have a literal fertility goddess in it
>decides to post an infertile flat goblin grandma
Why? Is this some kind of gay joke that i as a straigh man don't understand?

frieren fans broke me into starting this anime..

>>281763657
Fat bitch

>>281763657
This is like questioning Tatsumaki > Fubuki

>>281757646
Frieren gets her sexual satisfaction from mimics
Mimics cucked Himmel

>>281763772
At least Tatsumaki is still young and fertile.

>>281763657
How are her tits so big?

>>281763821
Fat, glands and magic.

>>281757167 (OP)
Sexualizing Frieren is immoral. She's child-coded. Everyone in the universe sees her as a child. Not over 18, or a 1000-year-old short woman. A minor. Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. This is nothing more than socially acceptable pedophilia.

>>281763657
>no underwire

>>281764230
>Everyone in the universe sees her as a child
Sein is literally the only one. Everybody else views her as an adult or even an old woman

>>281763657
The man who made this has no idea how bras work.

>>281757167 (OP)
t. Methode and Fern, Flamme if she was still alive and maybe Aura and Serie

Between Serie and Frieren, who has the smelliest fart?

>>281765374
Disgusting, but from a technical perspective Serie.
Frieren travels a lot and by foot at that.
This means her intestine modality should work really well.
She also seems to eat little highly processed foods and her nutrition is very natural and not strongly affected by seed oils and the like.

Serie barely moves at all in comparison, she is mostly holed up in her sanctuary and has people doing nearly everything for her.
So she got a bad intestine modality and might eat unnatural stuff, and highly processed foods.
This should negatively affect her gut biome.

If Serie rips one it is as strong as her mana and kills everyone in the room.

How does Stark even keep it together

Is there a new chapter today?

>>281765753
Next week

>>281765695
Frieren casts a sleep spell on both Fern and Stark every night. Frieren then empties his balls with a mage-handjob so he's more complacent and cooperative during the day.

>>281766311
What a considerate elf

>>281758320
>>281758337
Agreed

What does my taste in Frieren girls say about me?

>>281758320
>>281767269

>>281757167 (OP)
cute erfu

>>281767362
Space Frieren

>>281759343
Again you fucks are comparing the species, not the way the stories are told.

Frieren's so cute that it distracts you from how oppressively boring she is.

>>281763571
By sticking to their vision and not making her conventionally "likeable" like the editor wanted.

>>281763657
>annoying fat bitch gets mogged by likeable petite companion
Love this trope
>>281763676
Nice. It's an easy sell. If you don't like it by the end of EP1 then it might not be for you.

>>281758240
elves are immortal so i like to think they were all created at the beginning of time. if elves reproduce that would rapidly cover the globe and consume all the resources because of their immortality.

>>281767566
>boring
Neah, Frieren and her journey is the reason I follow this series.

>>281767566
i wish the show spent more time in the ancient world with Flamme
i wish Frieren and Flamme had sex as well

>>281767756
I hope we'll get more flashback of them as well
including where Flamme teaches Frieren about men

>>281767756
It's a shame this show fell into that classic fantasy trap: Technology has only regressed in the thousand years since the "Ancient World." You went from elaborate stone monuments to mud huts out in the woods passing for villages and cities.

>>281763399
picked up

>>281767834
but that's what happened in the west after the fall of the (western) Roman empire. there was virtually no progress for centuries. probably because of endless fighting over territory.
it wasn't a regression so much as stalling out. technology and culture was preserved by institutions like the Christian monasteries.

>>281757167 (OP)
>I MUST BREED

>>281757167 (OP)
Hotdogging elf butt.

>>281767834
there are cities built of stone in Frieren, you seem them going up over a long period of time.
one of the many things the show did well imo.

>>281767269
Just pretend this is Frieren.

>>281763676
hope you enjoy it, it was one of my two favorite anime of the last 10 years.

>>281767714
Not if they reproduced slowly and were hunted by demons in large numbers. A bigger question is, how are demons born? They were the predators of elves for a long time before men entered the picture. Their numbers and reproduction would determine how fast the elves reproduce even with agelessness.

>>281767996
The middle ages were already more advanced than the Roman Empire in many regards since the 11th century at least.

>>281760142
the one with Linie

>>281768786
so nearly 700 years after the Visigoths sacked Rome. In the show we have no idea how long the city depicted in >>281767756 lasted.
Those 700 years were a total shitshow.

>>281768839
It depends were. 5th century Germany was more advanced than 1st century Germany. 7th century Scandinavia was more advanced than 2nd century Scandinavia.

>>281768922
Sure, but the theme remains: what is western Europe reached an apex of culture sometime around the time and shortly after Christ, and then fell into decline as the territories of western Rome receded. The reason for this was the relative stability and extensive (at the time, nearly global) economy that the Roman empire enabled.

>>281757904
he could have thousands of half-elf offspring littered across the countryside if he wanted

>>281768796
I could have domesticated her..

>>281767834
I think that’s just another nation altogether

>>281769260
this is going into my collection, though personally i don't like to sexualize Linie. she remains pure for me.
I'd kill for a Linie spin-off, an OVA. Something.

>>281769260
Personally it felt like she was not as far gone already as someone like Lügner.
So with Lügner dead and Aura in her new role as my submissive breeding cow in her cowkini getting Linie to behave would have worked I believe.

>>281757646
imagine tricking Frieren into shrinking herself down, climbing inside your mouth and then swallowing her whole haha

>>281769422
demons only respect power... you gotta keep 'em in line

>>281769608
Are Linie and Ubel the only front-line mages in the series? I'm struggling to think of anyone else who is a "mage" but primarily uses melee.

>>281769608
Constant breeding and pregnancy will having to support the village with her milk will clearly show her the positions of power.

Is it Frieren Feet Friday yet?

>>281769730
No, wait until Friday

>>281769717
There is the strongest demon fighter, who fought Eisen and genocided Starks entire village.
Solitär is technically also a melee to mid range fighter, while she can fight long range, she is far less efficient at that distance.

>>281757167 (OP)
her ass isn't this fat

>>281763562
whyboner.jpg

>>281769608
that watermark of Fern is spooky, I swear I've never noticed it before now

>>281759420
this will be canon

>>281759420
Serie feet is the key to all this...

>>281769867
>>281769962
Would be funny if it is.

That is also why the demon king's castle is in heaven.

Flamme is still a questionable figure.
The fact she appeared before Frieren just right after her entire village was genocided to instill as much hatred in her as possible and that she apparently was in Heaven, so at the demon king's castle is so suspicious.

>>281768739
Well, is it really pretending?
The overlap is pretty big.

>>281766040
sad

>>281769858
she's always watching..

>>281770005
Isn't the Demon king's castle just outside Heaven? Himmel and co. went there but Frieren hasn't been to Heaven so...

>>281770122
scary...

>>281770005
quit it with your slander

>>281770193
smol Flamme

>>281770135
Considering Frieren and Co did not notice or see it, you either have to go further or fulfill a certain condition.
Considering the demon king was already a thing before Flamme and Flamme deemed she could not beat him and so created the child Soldier Frieren it begs to question how Flamme reached the place, seemingly even before she took Frieren in.

>>281770193
Shut it Serie, we already know you have lost all tightness pressing out all those demons.

>>281770191
Stark doesn't know it yet but he's locked down

>>281770241
Probably just found a way around.
It's a castle, it can only occupy so much space. I doubt it's controlling a chokepoint to Heaven or something.
Once Himmel's party defeated the Demon king they were probably dying to get back to civilization.

>>281770307
Considering it is like the most hostile environment we know of in their world, just going around does sound sketchy.

>>281770357
She was just exploring the world. For all we know they are in the same region but could be quite far apart.

>>281770357
going around the Demon king's place has to be less dangerous than going THROUGH the Demon king's place... but yeah, it's a bad neighborhood.

>>281770289
He knows it. Notice how he never tried to rizz up Kanne or Lawine

>>281769962
>Hobbit feet
Everything about that bitch is gross

>>281766040
Has it always been biweekly the magazine it's in?

>>281770760
that's right

>>281770770
what the hell are you on about anon
Serie does kind of look like she's a bit stinky but come on

>>281757167 (OP)
sorry flielen, i'm exclusively gonna be sticking it in your butt

>>281757167 (OP)
DISGUSTING. Why isn’t she flat?

>>281771035
off-model slop

>>281770948
It's not been a weekly manga for years at this point

>>281763740
Wrong

>>281760417
If she had huge tits you would still complain about her ass.