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Anonymous No.282253827 [Report] >>282254073 >>282254194 >>282254210 >>282255175 >>282260661 >>282260952 >>282261616 >>282265135 >>282265982 >>282266039 >>282266617 >>282269325 >>282270754 >>282271923 >>282277246 >>282281262 >>282281803
Anyone know roughly what percentage of manga are cancelled before completion?

It's getting to a point where I don't want to pick up new things because I don't want to get invested in something that might not have a conclusion
Anonymous No.282254016 [Report] >>282258399 >>282275288
Kadokawa has a lot higher cancellation of manga than other publishers, they mostly seem to only care about their light novel adaptions.
In general it depends on sales, and a rough line is usually 2000 physical sales, which amount to 5000 total sales, where 3000 is digital sales. You can find out physical sales on shoseki rankings, but there is no public information about digital sales.
http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/
I've done scanlation of a lot of kadokawa series, and of like 10 of series I worked on, only 2 didn't get cancelled, and all of them were fairly popular. So I'd guess probably less than 10 percent makes it past an early cancellation.
Important to note Kadokawa has barely any advertisement or promotion for their series, they rely completely on either viral hype, or the artist doing advertisement themselves.
Anonymous No.282254073 [Report] >>282254105
>>282253827 (OP)
Leaving aside manga that were always intended to be short, so just thinking about manga that the creator wanted to do for more volumes, most get cancelled, usually because of sales. But from your perspective as a reader, you're more likely to be checking out the series that have a better chance of surviving. It depends on how you're finding stuff to read though. Cancellation is more of a problem for someone actively checking out new, untranslated series that are not getting spoken about by other people.
Anonymous No.282254105 [Report] >>282254128 >>282281803
>>282254073
>Leaving aside manga that were always intended to be short
most original manga are written to continue if sales are good enough, the only ones that are limited are usually light novel adaptions, or a few ones that are like only one volume like that gyaru one a short while back
Anonymous No.282254128 [Report]
>>282254105
There are categories where short runs is the norm. Eromanga for example.
Anonymous No.282254194 [Report] >>282254414
>>282253827 (OP)
After volume 1 comes out, if it ranks poorly in Shoseki top 500 and sells like shit, it’ll be gone in 4-5 months in monthly magazine, and even faster in weekly magazine. Or they give the author another chance if volume 2 does better, but if volume 2 sales are still bad, they have to cut it. I have no idea what happens with series in web magazines
Garuru Girl is from monthly magazine and its sales are really bad
Anonymous No.282254210 [Report]
>>282253827 (OP)
Get used to it or find another hobby.
Or read one of the thousands of complete manga, idk.
Anonymous No.282254272 [Report] >>282254376 >>282255405
> You have to hope that the manga doesn't get axed in Japan
> You have to hope that the scanlation team doesn't stop because of drama
> You have to hope that your local editor doesn't get bored of translating the manga for whatever reason
It's hard being a dekinai
Anonymous No.282254376 [Report] >>282272069
>>282254272
You could just, like you know, buy the manga to support it and keep it going? It's only $5 for a digital volume on places like bookwalker and kobo, and it counts as much as a volume bought by the Japanese.
Anonymous No.282254414 [Report] >>282254981
>>282254194
>I have no idea what happens with series in web magazines
Web manga have in my experience about the same sales requirements as monthly manga, about 2000 physical sales which is estimated to 5000 total sales. My guess is that it's not the printing that's expensive, it's the advertisement and promotion weekly manga have in comparison to monthly manga.
Anonymous No.282254981 [Report] >>282255099
>>282254414
As far as I know, a series in the web magazine Jump Plus needs around 2,500 copies in estimated sales over 4 weeks on Shoseki to survive. They have canceled 28 titles in this year
For physical magazines: Monthly Shounen Ace is about 4k, Weekly Shonen Magazine 5k, and Weekly Shonen Jump 10-15k copies and good Table of Contents ranking
Anonymous No.282255099 [Report] >>282257286 >>282270281
>>282254981
>As far as I know, a series in the web magazine Jump Plus needs around 2,500 copies in estimated sales over 4 weeks on Shoseki to survive.
I think it's lower, Not you, Miyahara had lower sales and lasted far longer. It was in Tonari no Young Jump and not Jump+, but I would think the requirements were about the same.
I know a manga on kadokawa doro doro sharp that lasted for three volumes with 1650 physical sales, but it was fairly popular and got an early french license. It just didn't sell enough.
Anonymous No.282255175 [Report] >>282257238 >>282269183
>>282253827 (OP)
Garuru Girl's ending specifically felt pretty good, it wrapped up pretty well. Honestly if it went on longer I feel it would have overlapped more with something like Jitsu Wa.
Anonymous No.282255234 [Report] >>282269225
I guess the standards are different for each magazine. There are manga that never rank on shoseki for even a day and continued for +10 volumes, recently I saw Usotsuki Gokuo kun which seemed moderately popular on Corocoro, it lasted 25 volumes and now they are printing a kanzenban version, yet I checked its sales on shoseki and its last 10 volumes or so didn't even rank for a single day
Anonymous No.282255405 [Report] >>282256280 >>282282040
>>282254272
>Manga is completed
>The English translation team dropped it so it's 6 months behind
>Even the Russian translation is completed
Anonymous No.282256127 [Report] >>282259995
How cutthroat/harsh is Shonen Gangan?
Anonymous No.282256280 [Report]
>>282255405
Then you check if there is an official TL and it's only the first two volumes and no new release for 5 years now.
Anonymous No.282257238 [Report] >>282269183 >>282269845
>>282255175
>Jitsu Wa.
that shit wa so bad, from the artstyle to the dumb shit plot, at least some gags and characters were good like the dude and girl with glasses or the lolihag principal with her grandaughter teacher
Anonymous No.282257286 [Report]
>>282255099
>It just didn't sell enough
are you talking about the japanese or the french sales?
Anonymous No.282258399 [Report] >>282258619 >>282260148
>>282254016
>which amount to 5000 total sales
how other publishers can achieve that when even wsj new series struggle to do it
Anonymous No.282258619 [Report] >>282258866
>>282258399
It’s 5000 digital + physical, Jump axebait sales 2000-6000 physical only
Anonymous No.282258866 [Report] >>282260062
>>282258619
i doubt they can have good digital number since they are already available in Jump+
Anonymous No.282259995 [Report] >>282260552
>>282256127
In general monthly manga is around the 2000 physical sales or 5000 total sales.
Anonymous No.282260062 [Report]
>>282258866
>i doubt they can have good digital number since they are already available in Jump+
In general 40 percent of sales are physical and 60 percent are digital. It doesn't matter if it's been released digitally or not, the digital volumes have better quality and extras, and they remove it from the web reader when the volume is out. And in general Japanese readers support the manga way more and pirate less since the piracy laws are severely more strict in Japan than other countries. In Japan you're actually breaking the law and go to prison for copyright breach.
Anonymous No.282260121 [Report] >>282260319 >>282261046
Given how much /a/ throws a fit about cancelled manga I must have incredible luck in choosing what to read. The only manga I can think of that I was following that seemed like it was cancelled was Neko ga Nishi Mukya. But the way people on here act, 90% of the manga they follow get cancelled.

Maybe they conflate "ending I don't like" with "manga was axed". Like, I hated how Jojolion ended, but I don't think it was cancelled.
Anonymous No.282260148 [Report]
>>282258399
>how other publishers can achieve that when even wsj new series struggle to do it
Remember that on Oricon/Shoseki rankings you only see physical sales, which is about 40 percent of total sales, digital amounts for 60 percent of total sales. For weekly shounen jump I think the threshold is about 10 000 physical sales, which should amount to about 25 000 total sales. But I'm not very good with the weekly manga since I don't work on any weekly shounen manga, the only ones I've worked on ever were in Weekly Shounen Magazine, and it got canned even with 3000 physical sales.
Anonymous No.282260319 [Report] >>282260355 >>282260461 >>282260631
>>282260121
Like I wrote earlier, as a scanlator I've worked on new series from Kadokawa, and all of them were fairly good and popular, at least on the rankings on comic walker, where is mainly where I found them. I think only two of them are still ongoing, seven on them got axed at two volumes, and one of them lasted three volumes.
You can't really know if a manga is going to be a success or not when you pick it up early, to be honest it seems like it's mostly random if it's a success or not. Even more weird even if it's pretty popular overseas and places like mangadex and plebbit and comick or wherever, it can sell almost not at all in Japan. It's really weird.
I think one of the biggest predictors of a manga being successfull, is mostly how much online presence the mangaka has in advance. The ones I worked on that are still going had known mangakas from before, from doujins or other series, and huge twitter followings. That seems to be one of the most important parts.
Anonymous No.282260355 [Report]
>>282260319
Japanese SNS is the best indicator
Anonymous No.282260461 [Report] >>282277394
>>282260319
>Even more weird even if it's pretty popular overseas and places like mangadex and plebbit and comick or wherever, it can sell almost not at all in Japan. It's really weird.
i hate this shit so much, they are 90% pirate fags that will never put 1 yen on any manga or merchs so why dont they understand that japanese come first if not only Japan count in their liw iq heads
Anonymous No.282260552 [Report] >>282261297
>>282259995
Out of curiosity and to the best of your knowledge, does it seem like Mechanical Buddy Universe and Sentai Red Isekai are doing well enough at the moment?
Anonymous No.282260597 [Report] >>282273059
>if a manga doesn't go on arbitrarily long or I don't like the ending then it was "axed"
Anonymous No.282260631 [Report] >>282261083
>>282260319
>The ones I worked on that are still going had known mangakas from before, from doujins or other series, and huge twitter followings
are they mostly male or female?
Anonymous No.282260661 [Report] >>282260723 >>282260851 >>282261115 >>282261372 >>282261455 >>282261629 >>282261659 >>282261749
>>282253827 (OP)
im a brainlet so im probably missing something obvious, but is there any reason mangaka cant just self publish? like do they really NEED to have a publisher that controls whether their series gets to exist? i've seen shit posted exclusively on twitter get really popular, and doujins are a widespread thing too so clearly they all have the ability to make manga on their own time
Anonymous No.282260723 [Report]
>>282260661
People need to get paid. There's no guarantee you'll get paid with self publishing. It's the same reason most people don't start their own business. It's a lot of work for no guaranteed return as opposed to working for an already existing company.
Anonymous No.282260851 [Report]
>>282260661
Doujin is a real market you know? Especially now with digital distribution and pixiv/fantia subscription so they're not practically running in the red like before.
Still, the scalability of individuals lacking business acuity and only know drawing most of the time doesn't gonna compare to established channels of corporations.
The base line in earnings is simply much better even if you're failing working for a publisher than on your own. Telling mangaka that are already not selling to try and make the sales on their own isn't helping their case at all. Even fewer can find success this way and not everyone wants to farm cumbrains through paywalls (the highest chance of success alternatively)
Anonymous No.282260952 [Report]
>>282253827 (OP)
if you add together the series that get axed and the ones that end on their own terms but still flub the ending you get 100%
Anonymous No.282261046 [Report] >>282278603
>>282260121
many series also run until the author just says "i'm completely and utterly out of ideas" and throws together some uninspired wrapup and calls it done
Anonymous No.282261083 [Report] >>282261548
>>282260631
I think both of those have male mangakas, but I'm not entirely certain about one of them.
Anonymous No.282261115 [Report] >>282261516
>>282260661
They do, but it's far less common and way higher risk. But there are a few fairly well known self published works.
Anonymous No.282261297 [Report] >>282261567
>>282260552
Why don't you just look them up and see yourself?
http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/?q=%E3%83%A1%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8B%E3%82%AB%E3%83%AB+%E3%83%90%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3+%E3%83%A6%E3%83%8B%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9
Latest volume monthly ranking rank 424, about 7500 physical sales.
http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/?q=%E6%88%A6%E9%9A%8A%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%83%89%E3%80%80%E7%95%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E3%81%A7%E5%86%92%E9%99%BA%E8%80%85%E3%81%AB%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8B
Previous volume (not this week) monthly ranking 432, about 7386 physical sales.
Anonymous No.282261372 [Report]
>>282260661
There is the issue of discoverability. Its the hardest hurdle to overcome. If your manga gets recognized and published in a well known magazine then your work will automatically be seen by people who regularly buy the magazine.
Anonymous No.282261455 [Report]
>>282260661
They need funding. Manga isn't free to produce.
Anonymous No.282261516 [Report] >>282261653
>>282261115
>But there are a few fairly well known self published works.
never heard if any can you please post some?
i know lot of them gained huge popularity but still needed a publishing company to put the printing money and the distribution
Anonymous No.282261548 [Report]
>>282261083
I think most of the male mangaka are doing some ecchi/hentai on pixiv or doujins on the side
Anonymous No.282261567 [Report]
>>282261297
So they're both doing pretty well based on the standard you mentioned earlier, good to know. Thank you for the info, and apologies for basically asking for a spoon feeding.
Anonymous No.282261616 [Report] >>282261743 >>282261827
>>282253827 (OP)
Define "cancelled before completion,"
Some series may end prematurely due to lack of popularity, in which case the ending will be abrupt and leave things hanging. If you're including that, it's a lot higher, and just the nature of such publications. In that case, seek already finished series already.
If you mean series that are entirely dropped without an ending, it's uncommon enough that generally you don't need to worry too much.
Anonymous No.282261629 [Report]
>>282260661
The manga market is not a niche thing and there is a big competition, if you want to be known by a big chunk if the population you dont have a choice
and i think lots of them dont know anything about the process to make it alone
Anonymous No.282261653 [Report]
>>282261516
Right now, you have the absolute bullshit that is Imasara desu ga. An editorial has picked it up now, but originally it was first released as a web comic and then self-published.

Tomo-chan was also originally a doujinshi.
Anonymous No.282261659 [Report]
>>282260661
Sounds even more risky.
At least the most popular magazines give you a monthly salary to cover the cost of assistants and apparently they also pay quite well for each page you deliver, which allows you to publish chapters more often and publish volumes more frequently. If you work on your own, where do you get the money to pay assistants? You should make everything on your own, you also dont gain anything unless you become moderately popular, you have to upload your own chapters on the internet at the rate you can and pray that it becomes popular among hundreds of other manga that are published online.
Anonymous No.282261743 [Report]
>>282261616
>If you mean series that are entirely dropped without an ending, it's uncommon enough that generally you don't need to worry too much.
thats the case when the author dies like most recently with the gyaru serie or long ago with Kaze no Stigma
Anonymous No.282261749 [Report]
>>282260661
An editorial guarantees you get at least an income every month. Producing manga takes time and the alternative is having another job to pay the bill until you make it big (if ever). Doujinshi authors publish the equivalent of a few chapters a year at most, because they simply don't have the time for more.
Anonymous No.282261821 [Report] >>282261864 >>282261971
quick reminder that some mangaka axe themselves their work if they dont get any anime deal or jyst want to work on something else(even if its garbage and less succesful than the previous one)
Anonymous No.282261827 [Report]
>>282261616
>If you mean series that are entirely dropped without an ending, it's uncommon enough that generally you don't need to worry too much.
basically the first jaryuu-chan serialization. abruptly ended at two volumes in the middle of serialization without an ending
the new rendition is selling really well though, luckily. I think it had 3000 sales on shoseki sales or something
Anonymous No.282261864 [Report] >>282261935
>>282261821
wasn't that because he wanted to work on a zombie manga or something?
Anonymous No.282261935 [Report]
>>282261864
no it was a yandereshit
Anonymous No.282261971 [Report] >>282262100 >>282262652
>>282261821
>some mangaka axe themselves their work if they dont get any anime deal
Ashirogi sensei…
Anonymous No.282262100 [Report] >>282262238
>>282261971
the clean gyaru?
Anonymous No.282262136 [Report]
does infinite hiatus count like Nana or HxH?
Anonymous No.282262238 [Report]
>>282262100
That was rather the opposite wasn't it?
The author got butthurt about the axe notice and started to make chapter 8.X to infinite or something.
Anonymous No.282262652 [Report] >>282262952
>>282261971
>some mangaka axe themselves their work if they dont get any anime deal
close you eyes make up mangaka did that as well, people really hated that ending
Anonymous No.282262952 [Report]
>>282262652
was that the one where the main plain girl was getting her gyaru makeup done by her teacher who then asked the mc boy to do it instead, and then he had a harem and rejected the best girl out of nowhere?
Anonymous No.282265135 [Report] >>282265226 >>282265237
>>282253827 (OP)
imagine her biting you dick during a sloppy bj
Anonymous No.282265226 [Report] >>282274287
>>282265135
I prefer to imagine the things she can do with her tail.
Anonymous No.282265237 [Report]
>>282265135
Anonymous No.282265982 [Report] >>282267776
>>282253827 (OP)
Are you telling me it OP got axed?
Fuck me.
Anonymous No.282266039 [Report]
>>282253827 (OP)
sex dog
Anonymous No.282266617 [Report]
>>282253827 (OP)
Very little authors get to decide when to end their serialization.
Anonymous No.282267776 [Report] >>282268542
>>282265982
According to the scanlators, the author even dropped a comment on mangadex to ask for support
Anonymous No.282268542 [Report] >>282276190
>>282267776
it's sad, but it is what it is
what's disgusting is that a lot of people get offended when you suggest that they can buy the japanese raws to support the manga
they love complaining about the japanese having no taste and not supporting the manga, when they could buy the manga just as easily as well
and then they write stupid shit like that they wouldn't read it if it wasn't for free, blame corporate jews, and shitty excuses like that
I have no respect for the community honestly
Anonymous No.282268584 [Report] >>282268791 >>282268800
Why are english translation groups so incompetent
Anonymous No.282268791 [Report] >>282277410
>>282268584
For all you know, those non-English translations could be even worse MTL though. You can shit out stuff at record speed if you don't care about the quality.
Anonymous No.282268800 [Report] >>282272418
>>282268584
>Why are english translation groups so incompetent
>doesn't even know japanese
who's the incompetent one here anon
Genki 1
https://files.catbox.moe/sronwq.zip
Genki 2
https://files.catbox.moe/mt4rtu.zip
Genki teacher
https://files.catbox.moe/hrnkdx.zip
Hiragana/Katakana/Kangxi radicals Anki decks and Yotsuba Learning Pack
https://files.catbox.moe/9x3me2.zip
https://djtguide.github.io/
Anonymous No.282269183 [Report]
>>282255175
>>282257238
jitsu wa, perfect 10/10
Anonymous No.282269225 [Report]
>>282255234
>I saw Usotsuki Gokuo kun
We need more translations, that manga is hella fun
Anonymous No.282269325 [Report] >>282269749 >>282270196 >>282272333
>>282253827 (OP)
>Anyone know roughly what percentage of manga are cancelled before completion?
there are hundreds of 30+ volumes complete series, why translators always choose series that dont even have 1 volume? are they dumb?
Anonymous No.282269749 [Report] >>282269891
>>282269325
Because it's more fun that way.
Also who wants to work on old shit.
Anonymous No.282269845 [Report]
>>282257238
it's good tho
Anonymous No.282269891 [Report]
>>282269749
>Also who wants to work on old shit.
the best translators groups do it
Anonymous No.282270196 [Report] >>282270640
>>282269325
Why do you treat translators like substitute streamers / "vtuber lite" to have parasocial dependency on? It's no wonder they tell you to learn Japanese, at least it's better than this faggotry.
Anonymous No.282270281 [Report] >>282270773
>>282255099
I think the criteria for Tonari no Young Jump and Jump Plus are different. I check all ongoing Jump+ titles every month and found that the 2.5k (red text) is axe-borderline based on previous axes. Tonari no Young Jump has fewer titles than Jump+, while Jump+ has more than 50-60 titles in its lineup and more axebait
Anonymous No.282270640 [Report]
>>282270196
I was right
Anonymous No.282270754 [Report] >>282270959
>>282253827 (OP)
>Anyone know roughly what percentage of manga are cancelled before completion?
a giant manga world 99% of /a/ doesn't know about
Anonymous No.282270773 [Report] >>282274358
>>282270281
Might be due to them being simulpubbed, increasing costs.
Anonymous No.282270959 [Report]
>>282270754
>a giant manga world 99% of /a/ doesn't know about
True
Anonymous No.282271083 [Report]
In the heat of Nissan's financial crisis.
Anonymous No.282271923 [Report]
>>282253827 (OP)
We can do better
Anonymous No.282272069 [Report]
>>282254376
$5 isn't gonna save anyone from the axe
And there's still the TL issue
Anonymous No.282272333 [Report]
>>282269325
Translating short serials and one-shots is simply much easier than trying to tackle huge 30+ volume releases. People who do this as a hobby and want to manage their workload are just being sensible.
I do think there's a point to be made about scanlators who hop on brand spanking new serializations and then crap out of them once the story takes a turn they don't like. Working on older or completed newer works would be lower-risk for sensitive scanlators who can't handle typical Japanese plot twists like rape or NTR.
Anonymous No.282272418 [Report] >>282283715
>>282268800
>Genki
Anonymous No.282272912 [Report] >>282281743
The fucking Kinnikuman manga still isn't fully translated. Embarrassing
Anonymous No.282273059 [Report] >>282274396
>>282260597
I will never forget Cocktail Knights
Anonymous No.282274287 [Report]
>>282265226
sorry i'm not into pegging
Anonymous No.282274358 [Report]
>>282270773
i read that they complained that because of the translation process Manga+ is in the red and make no profits, i dont think even their suscribtion fees wont help
Anonymous No.282274396 [Report]
>>282273059
>Cocktail Knights
i dont know why but it will get a french version soon
https://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2025/07/22/Les-magical-girls-de-Bareteru-Cocktail-Knight-arrivent-chez-Noeve-Grafx
Anonymous No.282275288 [Report]
>>282254016
>they mostly seem to only care about their light novel adaptions.
They cancel a lot of those as well.
It depens a lot on the magazine. In Daioh g almost everything will get axed while Comic Beam usually has series reach a conclusion.
Anonymous No.282276190 [Report]
>>282268542
A lot of people don't want to pay for something they don't own, can't read, and won't be able to read anymore because of random events from the tl team, it's too much for them to care.

My country's manga sales is like 90% physical, even normies don't shy away from buying 20 euros premium editions if they like the manga and even random BL has its own public. But they don't care about the DRM locked epub
Anonymous No.282277246 [Report]
>>282253827 (OP)
sadge
Anonymous No.282277394 [Report] >>282277550
>>282260461
1000000 legitimate overseas sales is counted as 0.
Anonymous No.282277410 [Report] >>282277462
>>282268791
Hey man, I'm the leader of the translation group in that image. Our average pace is one chapter per day, and I think that's perfectly normal. We've even been invited by publishers to officially translate works, and I'm confident that we do a better job than you guys when it comes to translation and editing. So don't lump all foreign scan groups together. The truth is, you're just lazy and lack any real passion.
Anonymous No.282277462 [Report]
>>282277410
>Our average pace is one chapter per day, and I think that's perfectly normal. We've even been invited by publishers to officially translate works, and I'm confident that we do a better job than you guys when it comes to translation and editing. So don't lump all foreign scan groups together. The truth is, you're just lazy and lack any real passion.
are you doing the baseball manga????
Anonymous No.282277550 [Report] >>282277945 >>282278303
>>282277394
I get hating on gajin, but just do global simulpub and take the money. JM's chapter have a three months delay, people just go to mangadex, read it and forget about the official version.
Anonymous No.282277945 [Report] >>282278222
>>282277550
the only way to get lots of simulpub is you know it, to use fucking AI since its way cheaper and faster than any troonslators
Anonymous No.282278222 [Report]
>>282277945
I guess I should have grinded Anki...
Anonymous No.282278303 [Report]
>>282277550
They do those for other series and you still don't buy them because you'll find other excuses.
Anonymous No.282278567 [Report] >>282280993
I feel like the problem is the opposite. So many bad manga that deserve cancellation manage to reach completion.
Anonymous No.282278603 [Report]
>>282261046
I know this is how Index will end and it boils my blood.
Anonymous No.282280993 [Report] >>282281172
>>282278567
yeah bl and others fag shit should exist
Anonymous No.282281172 [Report]
>>282280993
*not exist
Anonymous No.282281262 [Report] >>282281324
>>282253827 (OP)
By December of 2016, roughly 76% of all manga that had begun that year or in December of 2015 had either finished, had a rushed ending, or been cancelled. This was up from approximately 72% of ended manga in 2015, but much lower than 2012's ATH of 81%. Keep in mind these numbers don't just account for major publications like weekly and monthly magazines, but also online-only outlets and self-published titles (It's much harder to get aggregate numbers after 2016-2017 but if you want to do the research it's out there).

2015 in particular was a really rough year for manga, especially Shonen jump - of the 12 manga ended that year, NONE of them were completed, all were cancellations of short series which is surprising. In fact if you look at pre-2020 data, only 2018 saw more manga end in Shonen Jump. You see this reflected throughout the industry - while 2016 had more manga ending, 2015 had more manga ended prematurely.

Another thing to bear in mind is that this data does NOT account for manga that has been put on indefinite haiatus or were oneshots that never got picked up.

I'd imagine that 2024 data would look similar to the mid-2010's average with roughly 70% of manga being cancelled or ended, but again it's hard to find all the hard numbers with how much more stuff is pushed out online. Hope this information was useful, anon.
Anonymous No.282281324 [Report] >>282281414
>>282281262
>roughly 76%
do you know if its mostly shonen, shoujo or others that got more axes
Anonymous No.282281414 [Report] >>282286251
>>282281324
It changes year by year - in 2016 just looking at the numbers it looks like more kodomo was cut, but in 2015 it was mostly shonen. The 2012 crush was almost entirely seinen and 2009 was the year with the most shoujo.

If you look at a lot of the post-pandemic numbers it seems really skewed towards shonen though, in large part because so many self-publishers chose to make shonen manga and very few last more than a volume. Of the self-published shonen manga that began after 2020, only 4% are still in production now.
Anonymous No.282281743 [Report]
>>282272912
Which? I just read the latest chapter in English.
Anonymous No.282281803 [Report] >>282281937 >>282285025
>>282253827 (OP)
Anything that survived it's first year it's unlikely to get axed
>>282254105
There are plenty of manga that are intended as a 2 volume story and are labeled 上下 instead of using numbers
Anonymous No.282281937 [Report]
>>282281803
>Anything that survived it's first year it's unlikely to get axed
only true if sales are not diving
Anonymous No.282282040 [Report] >>282282116 >>282284142 >>282285052
>>282255405
One of my favorite manga to reread is completed in Japan and the scanners stop translating at 95% done over four years ago.
I’m debating chatgpt’ing the rest for myself.
Anonymous No.282282116 [Report] >>282282638 >>282285052
>>282282040
look if it was translated in other languages and use ai translation it should me more readable
Anonymous No.282282638 [Report] >>282285052
>>282282116
Oh good idea thanks
Anonymous No.282283715 [Report] >>282286048
>>282272418
I think genki is better than tae kim for beginners.
Tae Kim is probably better for reference, but for learning it's kind of bad.
Anonymous No.282284142 [Report] >>282284186
>>282282040
easiest to do is just using panel cleaner to ocr it, and then running the whole script through chatgpt
you get a way better translation when you have everything in the correct order
the you can just use photoshop content aware fill for redrawing or even iopaint for ai generative fill and just cover up the stuff that don't look good with big strokes
Anonymous No.282284186 [Report] >>282284355
>>282284142
How is that easier than reading in Japanese?
Anonymous No.282284219 [Report] >>282284325 >>282284625
Thanks to duolingo I learned hiragana and katakana perfectly
Anonymous No.282284325 [Report]
>>282284219
I learned hiragana and katakana by drilling anki.
I also recommend learning the kangxi radicals, they're really helpful.
Anonymous No.282284355 [Report] >>282284836 >>282285361
>>282284186
>How is that easier than reading in Japanese?
it's easier spending five minutes using panel cleaner and chatgpt than spending a year learning japanese
Anonymous No.282284625 [Report]
>>282284219
buy an ad tourist
Anonymous No.282284836 [Report] >>282284900
>>282284355
And for how many chapters are you going to repeat that?
What do you think provides a better experience?
Anonymous No.282284900 [Report] >>282284924
>>282284836
It's not a better experience wasting a year learning something completely useless.
Anonymous No.282284924 [Report]
>>282284900
You didn't try it.
Anonymous No.282285005 [Report]
>New chapter drops of something youre reading
>Random 2-4 hour lock on the chapter unless you go to their site
>" We also have other chapters on our site! "
Fuck off, I do not wanna go to your dumb fucking sites, just post the damn chapters and be done with it so I can go about my day instead.
Anonymous No.282285025 [Report]
>>282281803
>Anything that survived it's first year it's unlikely to get axed
this is extremely wrong
Anonymous No.282285026 [Report]
I was also MTLfags before but now I'm learning japanese, it's really cool language
Anonymous No.282285052 [Report] >>282285137
>>282282040
>>282282116
>>282282638
that doesnt work, why the obsession with AI?
Anonymous No.282285137 [Report] >>282285272 >>282285299
>>282285052
>that doesnt work, why the obsession with AI?
it works perfectly fine?
you should ask yourself that question really
your unreasonable hate towards AI doesn't make any sense
herp derp AI is taking our jobs
hurr durr AI is killing the planet
mental illness that's what it is
Anonymous No.282285272 [Report] >>282285683 >>282285689
>>282285137
>it works perfectly fine?
According to whom?
Anonymous No.282285299 [Report] >>282285689
>>282285137
>it works perfectly fine?
that doesnt work, why the obsession with AI?
Anonymous No.282285361 [Report]
>>282284355
When you say one year, like one 'neet' year or one 'wage slave' year ?
Anonymous No.282285683 [Report] >>282285719 >>282285812
>>282285272
According to most people. Cross-language Large Language Models are inherently great translators, just due to the way they're made. They can do stuff like infer tone of the original text and convey it in English, since they were made to read the tone of a conversation and continue it.

As someone who used to run through entire dating sims using various machine translators, modern chat AI is on a whole different level. ChatGPT5 is even pretty good at recognizing Japanese cultural references that most people in the west wouldn't catch (mainly things like references to commercials from the 90s that no English translator would have ever seen).
Anonymous No.282285689 [Report]
>>282285272
>>282285299
why do you guys care so much about AI taking your jobs anyway, you're just losers on welfare
Anonymous No.282285719 [Report]
>>282285683
Chatboxes beat a N4-N5 and probably a N3 easily. They're just being retarded.
Anonymous No.282285812 [Report] >>282285990
>>282285683
Language models are good at selling themselves. They don't tell you when they've got no idea and are blind guessing.
Unless you understand the language getting translated, you're just letting it delude you and you shouldn't need a tool for that.
Anonymous No.282285990 [Report] >>282286115
>>282285812
You're thinking of DeepL, which would LITERALLY make stuff up that sounded right. I ran an experiment cross-referencing a ChatGPT translation of the original Haruhi light novels with Baka-tsuki and the official translations. It's around 98% accurate, with most of the remaining 2% being awkward obvious fumbles (it struggled most with the lines where you have to infer who's talking, which Haruhi in particular has a lot of. But the mix-up usually just amounted to using the wrong pronouns because it couldn't tell who Kyon was speaking to).
Anonymous No.282286048 [Report] >>282286467
>>282283715
Maybe but Genki is by far the most overwhelming out of the popular grammar resources. Most people are gonna go "yeah no thanks" when you drop a pair of 350 page textbooks on them
Anonymous No.282286115 [Report] >>282286178
>>282285990
Any language model is prone to hallucinations.
And you shouldn't compare it to other translations but the original text.
Anonymous No.282286178 [Report] >>282286220 >>282286349
>>282286115
You should compare it to other translations because that's what it's replacing.
Anonymous No.282286220 [Report] >>282286362 >>282286430
>>282286178
There are no other translations to begin with. The question is whether a translation is an acceptable replacement to learning the language and it clearly isn't.
Anonymous No.282286251 [Report] >>282286306
>>282281414
>Of the self-published shonen manga that began after 2020, only 4% are still in production now.
What the fuck
Anonymous No.282286306 [Report]
>>282286251
To be fair, 4 years is a pretty average lifespan for a longer shonen manga.
Anonymous No.282286349 [Report] >>282286406
>>282286178
How often do you say "this translation sucks, I'm going to switch to one made by OpenAI ChatGPT-5"?
Anonymous No.282286362 [Report] >>282288022
>>282286220
Can't you follow a reply chain? Anon is talking about the test he made.
Anonymous No.282286406 [Report]
>>282286349
For manga, not that often because I don't usually read the official translations. But for vidya? A lot of times I wished I could just have a machine translate it instead of dealing with the offcial translations.
Anonymous No.282286430 [Report] >>282286522 >>282288045
>>282286220
>whether a translation is an acceptable replacement to learning the language
For reading text? It is perfectly acceptable. You should only bother learning a language if you want to listen and talk in that language.
Anonymous No.282286467 [Report] >>282287125
>>282286048
>Maybe but Genki is by far the most overwhelming out of the popular grammar resources. Most people are gonna go "yeah no thanks" when you drop a pair of 350 page textbooks on them
The trick is just skipping past the exercises and stuff and reading the grammar and important parts.
It's far better written and understandable than Tae Kim.
Anonymous No.282286522 [Report] >>282287452
>>282286430
If we had AI to translate 25 years ago when the scanlation scene boomed because of the internet, we'd have no issues using it.
The ones against using AI are just against it because of ideological reasons.
They're genuinely pants on head retarded and should take this shitty proxy political debate up their ass.
Anonymous No.282287125 [Report] >>282288771
>>282286467
tatsumoto still my ace tho
Anonymous No.282287452 [Report]
>>282286522
>If we had AI to translate 25 years ago when the scanlation scene boomed because of the internet, we'd have no issues using it.
>The ones against using AI are just against it because of ideological reasons.
>They're genuinely pants on head retarded and should take this shitty proxy political debate up their ass.
AI is not God
Anonymous No.282288022 [Report]
>>282286362
And the reply was that his test methodology is shit.
Anonymous No.282288045 [Report] >>282288828
>>282286430
You wouldn't say that had you ever learned a second language.
Anonymous No.282288771 [Report]
>>282287125
>tatsumoto still my ace tho
tatsumoto is fucking garbage
honestly I have no idea why he hasn't been stopped and banned and everything
the shit he's promoting isn't healthy at all
Anonymous No.282288817 [Report] >>282288854 >>282289322 >>282289430 >>282289594
>thread gets derailed by thirld world shitters who live off translating manga and will lose their income to AI within the year
Sad to be trash I guess. That 100$ you get a month wont be enough to buy grilled insects anymore.
Anonymous No.282288828 [Report]
>>282288045
anglo barely speak english which is already a toddler broken language
Anonymous No.282288854 [Report]
>>282288817
>100$
that would be 1k in their shithole
Anonymous No.282289322 [Report]
>>282288817
>o-one more year!
Anonymous No.282289430 [Report] >>282289604
>>282288817
you may not like it but for all of us dekinai they save us from waiting years official woke translation to catch up
Anonymous No.282289594 [Report]
>>282288817
implying the third world shitters aren't using AI to translate in the first place
Anonymous No.282289604 [Report]
>>282289430
I know, and Im thankful for that, but I cannot stand the inceccant hate towards AI simply because it will invalidate their talent.
Its the exact same thing with these Pixiv artists that live of their shitty r34 commissons, constanly ragging on AI with their fucking beloved buzzword "slop".
Its fucking ridiculous.