Thread 282869199

Explain to me one thing that Frieren does better than these two anime. Because I'm not really seeing it or why it's been praised so much.

>>282869199 (OP)
Nothing, Frieren is just glorified slice of life slop.

>>282869199 (OP)
It's not boring pseud garbage or fujoslop, so it's already better by default.

>>282869199 (OP)
The praise for a series is proportional to its reach to the public that does not consume anime.

>>282869290
>FMAB
>for fujos
Where? Edward isn't sexy.

>>282869199 (OP)
I'm gonna be real with you, the ratings are botted by moeshit enjoyers on both IMDb and MAL. The rest just followed because of recency bias and hype, but the differences are obvious if you look closely. I didn't like Steins;Gate that much, and while FMA/FMA:B is a masterpiece, slop like Frieren shouldn't even be in the same conversation.

>>282869290
shut the fuck up, low iq retard

>>282869199 (OP)
FMA will never truly be great until they make a Husbandhood version where Ed and Envy get married.

>>282869328
My gf shifted in her seat and gasped audibly when that scene after the timeskip of Ed being taller than Winry came on

>>282869199 (OP)
Frieren is slow paced but it's not a slog like the other two. There were periods in S;G and Brotherhood where I was just waiting for it to be over or for something interesting to finally happen.

>>282869328
I know you're pretending to be retarded but here's the characters with the most fanfictions about them.

>>282869199 (OP)
I will tell you. Frieren has launched in the era of anime being normie and general public taste. That is all.

I remember finding Frieren by chance a couple years before the anime, and while the people who did read it seemed to agree the manga was good you could not keep a thread up if your life depended on it. How it exploded in popularity to such an absurd degree from the announcement alone will forever escape me.

>>282869663
So in other words it does nothing better and has no legitimate merit of its own.

>>282869199 (OP)
Frieren is a show for adults, Steins;Gate for chuunis, and FMA for teenagers

>>282869290
Exactly, it's an actually profound show which deals with philosophical themes like the Problem of Evil which filters brainlets like you

The only reason you liked Stein's gate and FMA is because you have watched them when you were a kid.
If you were an adult (like I was) you wouldn't see anything special about them, because they have nothing special.

>>282869762
>you didn't like it therefore you didn't understand it
Not an argument. There's nothing profound about the show it's mediocre at best and specifically made for redditors who think they're smarter than they are.
>>282869734
Pretty much this

>>282869199 (OP)
you either like it or you dont. both steins gate and fmab are highly praised but i tried both and gave up after some eps because i couldnt get into them. meanwhile frieren immediately hooked me. your show either has the gene or it doesnt.

>>282869695
exactly.

>>282869453
>for fujos
>she liked the het relationship
???

>>282869787
>>282869913
Imagine getting filtered by an anime like SG this hard. Everyone has said forever that the first part is buildup for the big second half, if you couldn't even make it that far than you would never get it and don't deserve good things anyways for being an impatient fag.

>>282869199 (OP)

Personally i like all 3. I like Steins;Gate because of the characters and because i´m a sucker for time travel, dimensional crossing and mysteries. That said i would say that if Steins;Gate has a "flaw" (I wouldn´t really call it that but for lack of a better word) it would be that it´s micro cosmos is very specific. Like early 2000´s otaku culture in akihabara. That plot with those characters only works on that setting. It´s not (exactly) a flaw but if one is unfamiliar with that specific subculture at the time it may be detrimental. In that sense i´d say it´s the least entry level of the 3.

FMA brotherhood is pretty much on the same league as Frieren though. They both have a good balance between action/adventure, character development/ drama and action. That said a fair comparison can´t be made as FMA is already finished and Frieren is not.

Frieren could very well still fuck up or become one of those long and tiring stories or it could end up having some very memorable antagonists, who can say? In any case i am enjoying the journey so far. Also i believe Frieren does get some extra prize due to context. Releasing a pure high fantasy with excellent animation quality, style and pacing at a time where most productions were rushed 12 episode isekais has undoubtedly played on it´s favor. Furthermore Frieren doing well is probably at least partly responsible for high fantasy anime getting more shows like Dungeon Meshi or Witch hat atelier. I´d love to credit my guy Fushi for this but he is just not as popular as Frieren.

>>282870074
You claimed Ed wasn't sexy and he provided an anecdote to suggest otherwise. It's bullshit of course because >gf but all anecdotes are anyway.

>>282870116
>Frieren could very well still fuck up or become one of those long and tiring stories
It already did with el dorado and time travel namek

>>282869199 (OP)
Frieren is the only one with a somewhat likable MC. Okabe in particular is just rancid and I hated listening to him talk about dumb shit for 24 episodes.

>>282870109
Why did you quote me?
I finished both of them. None of them have anything special.

Also: FMA 2003 > FMAB.

>>282869245
That's such an oversimplification. And if it was where are the lolis?

>>282869199 (OP)
It has cute elf hags in it so it's good.

>>282869199 (OP)
I don't like any of those three shows to be honest with you. If you got this from the top mal rankings that whole site is a joke.

>>282869199 (OP)
Steins; Gate VN is great but the anime isn't that good as it lacks tons of information.

>>282869199 (OP)
Cute Elven Feet

>>282872265
Hag feet

>>282869689
Respected big-name studio + director who was just coming off a mega-hit (Bocchi) + medieval fantasy setting which normalfags always gobble up. Not hard to see why it was successful.

>>282869199 (OP)
FMAB is shounen trash. Steins;Gate is Reddit trash. How is it not better?

>>282873633
by being isekai-tier fantasy trash

>>282869199 (OP)
Its doing a better job of keeping me from dropping reddit's;gate on the second episode

>>282873891
First of all it's not isekai. Second Frieren is not designed to be a self insert.

>>282869199 (OP)
Not hard to be better than a couple of 6/10 shows, anyone who acts like those two are the peak of anime needs to give their head a shake.

>>282869199 (OP)
>MAL thread
How do people keep falling for it?

FMAB was fun. There, I said it.

>>282869199 (OP)
steins gay is glorified harem trash. FMA B is pretty good

>>282877053
Based

>>282873891
fma is more isekai

>>282869199 (OP)
Frieren is a good show. Not overrated at all.

>>282869304
This. It also often has very little to do with a series' actual quality as you can see from the ones in OP's picture.

>>282869199 (OP)
Left one has some crumbs of fanservice and talks about le icky otaku, thus it's bad.
The right one is a bit too close to glorified shounenslop for normalfags to really praise as art.
Meanwhile frieren actually makes them feel like mature adults, so they praise it to high heavens, that's literally it.

>>282880494
Frieren is unironically more mature than both of those anime, yes.

>>282869199 (OP)
>Fullreddit Malchemist

>>282869199 (OP)
>Fullkino Alchino

>>282869199 (OP)
better animation i guess, but nothing else

>>282869199 (OP)
Considering you posted two of the most overrated anime outside of shounen? It does everything better.

>>282872265
Very lickable feet

>>282869199 (OP)
None of these anime are that special or exceptionally good in any way. No idea how these became the top 3 of MAL.

I appreciate the meditating on the passage of time. Makes me think about my own life.

>>282869199 (OP)
Steins;Gate is shit.

>>282869589
Thanks for the recs

>>282869199 (OP)
It has better characters, even as stoic as they are most of the time it's still better than cringe visual novel trope characters and shounen archetypes.

>>282869290
SPBP

>>282884180
Steins;Gate would've been pretty good if it had even one likable character, but instead we got the chuunishit and tsundere show.

>>282885108
My issue is that they're so cardboard, barely anything exists of them outside of their visual novel archetypes. The trap is just a trap. The moeblob is just a moeblob. There's barely anything there.

>>282869199 (OP)
Reminder that nothing in the MAL top 5 is good.

>>282885208
The anime removed the best character, the yandere cunny

>>282869199 (OP)
I didn't care for any of those anime.

>>282870807
I've always thought the key of Frieren's success was that it introduced iyashikei to the isekai and shounen fags. The lack of lolis and a generic fantasy setting lets the show get past their filters and experience a genre they didn't know they like.

>>282869199 (OP)
I dont even understand how such a boring anime like frieren even got so popular.

>>282869199 (OP)
It's a better adaptation than FMA:B. Brotherhood's pacing gets fucked because its just the manga animated with some extra things thrown in. The comedic parts are shit because they take too long in the anime, compared to the manga, in which they were just a a panel or two and you'd read it in less than a second.

SG? Dropped during episode 1. Never played the source material, but it's probably a decent adaptation based on everything I've heard about it.

>>282889028
>but it's probably a decent adaptation based on everything I've heard about it.
no it's not

>>282889062
Really? But people praise the fuck out of it all the time.

>>282889250
I haven't played the visual novel, but I can assure you it was a pretty good adaptation because I liked it.

>>282889250
There are tons of extremely good and interesting things that got cut because they are from different endings than the basic one from the anime. Like, anime onlys don't know shit about the little girl torturing and killing Okabe or that time Okabe goes full rapist psycho over Daru's daughter right after he gets run over by a truck.

If you posted you liked either of these two you'd be called a Redditor and rightly so

>>282869199 (OP)
nothing

>>282869199 (OP)
Nothing. Frieren is just the usual flavour of the month. Can guarantee you people won't be talking about it over a decade after it finished, unlike SG and FMA(B).

>>282869199 (OP)
SG and FMAB are both boring slop

>>282869199 (OP)
Frieren is actually watchable and not a glorified sleeping aid like the other two.

>>282869199 (OP)
It does atmosphere and vibe better than the other two. Other things too but that's what stands out the most.

>>282889658
>the little girl torturing and killing Okabe
>good and interesting
This is just cringe edgy garbage.

>>282869199 (OP)
Aura Farming.

>>282895041
Frieren farmed Aura alright

>>282889250
It's good as far as vn adaptations go, but those are pretty much always not going to be as good as the original as anime, as a medium, can't tell the same sort of stories with multiple endings that vns often have.
>>282889658
It's a shame Suzuha's ending is never getting adapted.

>>282869199 (OP)
None of those anime deserve their praise, it's just that Frieren has more redeeming qualities than the others by virtue of having an interesting premise and being a bit more thoughtfully told as a story.

>>282869199 (OP)
Both Frieren and Steins Gate aren't perfect but they're still better than that Brotherhood garbage

>>282895569
Based, Fullreddit Malchemist is absolutely cancerous. It wouldn't even be in this discussion if FMAutists didn't bot the shit out of MAL so that it stayed at #1 for over a decade. It's amusing that they weren't even able to beat Frieren, it's so pathetic

>>282895072
I'd like to farm Aura, if you know what I mean.

>>282869787
I reread FMA recently and the civil war is handled very well.

>>282895569
I don't think I'd rate any of those anime higher than a 7/10. They just don't do enough to deserve more than that.

>>282892200
Fanartists are pumping Frieren fanarts since its release, and the official twitter still has posts with a million views and hundreds of thousands favs.
The "hype" is not really dead.

>>282896139
Still not much compared to the acclaim SG got at the height of its popularity. Frieren is newfag shit.

>>282872265
Still a virgin btw

>>282869787
I first read it 2 months ago

>>282869199 (OP)
It has better writing

>>282888413
hm, and it's still not great at iyashi since it went into battle shounen mode mid season. a comfy, leisurely battle shounen with slow dialogue, but still.
it's just high budget.

FMA pretends to have hard-magic in the form of alchemy, but eventually hand-waves it into soft-magic.
A lot of the "sad" moments are contrived.
Most of the sins are pretty boring.
A lot of the plot is meandering and tedious.
FMA has a lot of flaws, while Frieren has significantly less.
Frieren's highs, both action and non-action absolutely mog it too.
Toonami kids need to give it a rest.

>>282869199 (OP)
Frieren is praised because it's good, simple as.

>>282895928
Imo I would rate Frieren and S;G around a 6-7/10 while Brotherhood is like a 0-1/10. It really sucks ass compared to the first FMA, it's much less well made

>>282869199 (OP)
>no cute elf in neither fullmetal nor steins gate
it's that simple

>>282869199 (OP)
None of those series have anything in common dude. The only thing in common with FMA and Frieren is both being under the shonen demography.

Fullreddit Malchemist is terrible

>>282869453
NORMIES GET OUT REEEEEE

>>282869199 (OP)
It doesn't really get better than Steins;Gate
Trash thread btw

>>282869199 (OP)
It's praised precisely because it doesn't do the same things as the shows you mentions.

>>282902388
So it has no interesting story or fun characters.

>>282902428
>FMA
>interesting story

>>282902428
>pseud time travel shit and battle shounen
Neither of those had an interesting story.

>>282869199 (OP)
>>282852962

I am a Janitor. I am beating my dick right now.

>>282902533
>>282902733
>getting filtered this hard by good anime

Frieren is a simply a better produced anime.

>>282903250
If you mean animation quality that's maybe the only thing it has over those two in the OP.

>>282903131
the story isn't bad, it's just not interesting.
The world and military stuff is though, as are the side-adventures like Scar .

>>282903333
I think it's better paced than FMAB.

>>282903131
>I can't enjoy anime that doesn't focus on pew pews and tragic backstories
Such a casual.

>>282903617
SG doesn't focus on pew pews though moron. It's a time travel thriller.

>>282903691
As expected of KINO;Gates

>>282900985
Cute demonness

>>282903691
That poster is just retarded. None of the three anime are "pew pew" shit.

>>282904525
That still doesn't make any of the three better than average at best.

>>282902428
Fullreddit Malchemist has awful characters and story

>>282895569
>>282895629
>>282901403
>>282901507
>>282905098
Hi schizo

>>282869199 (OP)
Something I haven't heard ever discussed is how much of your enjoyment of FMA:B is reliant on having siblings, and especially a brother (doesn't matter if it's older or younger, you can emotionally identify with either Al or Ed). I don't think only children will even really get the story in the same way as people with siblings, the whole premise of the show relies on an emotion these people don't have access to. Add on top of that having a strained or no relationship with your Dad and it's game over.

>>282869199 (OP)
It caters to (wo)man-children better. It's a power fantasy story about blasting ethically unambiguously evil demons apart with no effort because you're the strongest and sometimes you're kind of sad about time passing.

Current young adults have an insatiable appetite for this kind of story where the POV character is incredibly capable, but also is a cute little quirked up chungus who is bad at communicating (she's just like me :3), but everyone still loves and admires her anyway. Frieren is Anime Forrest Gump, but not on the nose enough that you'd see it's a deeply cynical and ironic movie/book.

>>282905614
>It's a power fantasy story about blasting ethically unambiguously evil demons apart with no effort
That's probably the wildest description I've heard of the show yet lol. What ethnicity are they trying to portray?

>>282905614
>no effort
didn't watch or backgrounded it

>>282904525
FMAB is absolutely "pew pew" shit, it's shallow shonenslop especially when you compare it to older anime like the original, Monster, Paranoia Agent, etc. It ends with a cringy power of friendship victory that wouldn't be out of place in Demon Slayer

>>282905614
It's hard to beat S;G in catering to manchildren.

Back in the day obvious ragebait threads like this would be deleted after a few hours at most.

>>282869199 (OP)
The difference is Frieren is actually good.

>>282906952
>Everyone fights against God
Dumb ending

>>282869663
>I will tell you. Frieren has launched in the era of anime being normie and general public taste. That is all.
Nah you're thinking of Attack on Titan back in 2013. That was when the pendulum shifted from anime being socially unacceptable to semi socially acceptable. desu zoomers are the ones who completely ripped the stigma bandaid off. Millennials stil

Why does MAL always pick the shittiest shows to be the top rated ones?

>>282869199 (OP)
It manages to be a 8/10 when the other anime in your picture are 6/10s at best.

>>282911086
A well made, inoffensive show with broad appeal will rate higher than your favorite show that filters most people

>>282907556
There's been so much change in culture in the past 14 years that S;G actually filters 2025 manchildren. Compare it to any slave harem isekai since that's the level of wish fulfillment current manchildren are used to for their media. For these guys S;G is like reading the Illiad.

>>282912683
I just disagree with the "well made" part.

>>282869199 (OP)
>Reddit;Gate

>>282869199 (OP)
What does Frieren do better than Steins Gate? Everything.

>>282869199 (OP)
Does it need to do anything better?
It's just good why are you comparing it to others to find a flaw?

>>282910653
SAO was the sparkle that introduced normies into other animes than the big 3. It coincided with the explosion of simulcast in 2012.

>>282869199 (OP)
Frieren > FMAB > Steins;Gate

>>282906952
>>282910149
Father isn't god, speedwatcher.
Shonen series like Demon Slayer are food too, tryhard retard that probably uses terms like "soft-seinen".

>>282916957
*good too

>>282869199 (OP)
acts as a muse to doujin artists

>>282911086
They didnt pick tengoku or onimai though

>>282918347
Zomg

>>282916957
Demon Slayer is generic as fuck

>>282869199 (OP)
Steins;Gate is just a shittier Re:Zero.