Thread 283041233

Do you self-insert?

I don't know how to self-insert

>>283041233 (OP)
All the time

>>283041233 (OP)
No. I get invested by rooting for the characters.

No.

No, my IQ is above 80.

no

>>283041233 (OP)
God type for me.

>>283041233 (OP)
No

>>283041233 (OP)
All 3.

>>283041233 (OP)
only mentally ill retards self insert
characters and their actions are there to be observed with your eyes not for you to "imagine you are literally them"

>>283041233 (OP)
No but I do feel possessive over the stories I enjoy as if they're my own

I don't self insert into the protagonist.
I self insert into the stories as a separate character.

self-inserting and shipping is rude to characters, don't do that

if i like the setting and there's enough worldbuilding i do autistic solo roleplay sessions, though separate from the manga story so i don't break the rule above

No, never.
Not even when I'm unconscious during REM sleep, I just observe.

>>283041233 (OP)
What a grand and intoxicating innocence.

I've never understood self-inserting. Like, why would I want to be there? Why would I want to mentally take the place of a character to be with another character? Why would I create a fandom OC to insert into the story to ship with that character if not that? I don't need to be there.

I'd rather ship who is canonically in the story than ruin everything by inserting myself.

>>283041233 (OP)
I just won't believe you if you tell me you didn't.

>>283041233 (OP)
No, I'm neither a woman nor autistic.

>>283041233 (OP)
Yes: all the girls should lust for my dick.
My IQ is above 120.

>>283041233 (OP)
Closest thing I ever get is imagining how I would fair in the shoes of the protag as a personal challenge to see how the narrative can be warped to make it happen while changing as little as possible to mark where things ultimately differ versus where they line up. And it's not something done seriously, it's just daydreaming for the hell of it.

>>283041971
A lot of people who self-insert don't think of the character as themselves, they think of themselves as the character. They immerse entirely into the protagonist's perspective, basically the "chameleon" type in OP. It's just really intense escapism more often than not. Doppelganger types deliberately go for blank slates that are designed to be a stand-in for (you), so those types don't usually interfere with stories either unless they're sufficiently delusional.

>>283041455
You wanted to be Goku, admit it.

>>283041233 (OP)
Yes, I am exclusively a doppelganger type.
I can't care for the characters otherwise.

I find it hard to believe people don't at least SOMETIMES read a story for the purpose of escapism, and not just detached observation and analysis.
Especially regarding a medium like manga.

>>283041233 (OP)
No I like forget about my own existence while reading or watching something.

>>283041233 (OP)
There are no self inserts
There are only special girls who are special because of their specialness

>>283041233 (OP)
>tranny type
>midwit type
>cuck type
lol, lmao

>>283041233 (OP)
No, I am not a worthless (and possibly transexual) retard from the third world

>>283041233 (OP)
Going for anything but god type means you have shit taste. I'm here to enjoy a good and satisfying story and not engage in a storytelling equivalent of an autofellatio.

>>283041233 (OP)
Im not delusional, no.

If you read a love triangle or harem romcom, and say you aren’t self-inserting, you are lying or deluding yourself. You don’t have to think you are literally the MC to be self-inserting.

This is just another thread made for the express purpose of hating male characters because they are male

>>283041233 (OP)
No, I cannot self insert even when I play an RPG.
Hell, I cannot self insert in real life, it's called autism lol.

>>283041233 (OP)
It depends, if I agree with like 70% of the decisions the MC makes then yeah, otherwise I either root for the mc or just want to see where the story goes.
Like how the FUCK am I supposed to self insert as the guy who goes >"hmmm I will NOT fuck this sexy monster lady who wants my cock"
I'm sorry, but in that kind of situation self inserting is a universal impossibility.

>>283045220
how

>>283041233 (OP)
>chameleon type
It isn't something everyone does? Though it makes moments meant to be cringe within-the-story absolutely unbearable for me and sometimes makes a thing unwatchable.

>>283041233 (OP)
I'm a serial self-inserter. Every male protagonist is literally me.

>>283041233 (OP)
I self-insert as supporting cast

>>283045382
It's not fair that YOU get forced to have a girlfriend and i get nothing
Mary sue

>>283042031
https://youtu.be/b75EpoF1W88?si=c6NBUex9VbHtU7mp
https://youtu.be/Ck4Bk6SKO7o?si=0tkei58j6MaB-H3q

>mfw can't compute basic operations anymore

>>283041233 (OP)
When you say self insert do you mean
>wow this character is just like me
or
>if *I* were in this situation I would....

>>283041233 (OP)
franchises with self insert bait main characters are only good if the main character isnt some edgy fuck and the story doesnt take itself overly serious.

Remember you are not a true self-inserter unless you skip scenes that your self-insert doesn't appear in

No, I'm born in a year starting with 1.

>>283041233 (OP)
I'm no longer twelve.

>>283045680
Apparently /v/ tourists convinced themselves it means
>this character is literally me somehow

>>283045680
The latter isn't even actually self inserting I don't know why people have memed it into that. It has nothing to actually do with experiencing the story.

>>283045220
Bro? The incessant spam of dogshit offtopic /u/trash is caused solely by self-inserting "women"
Being a worthless subhuman is unfortunately unisex

>>283045854
No, I think the latter is self-inserting, and people have just taken the term far too literally. In general, there are levels to it.

>>283041233 (OP)
No. But I'm also annoyed at the retards who seem to have latched unto this term without knowing what it is.
Self-insert meant
>[Average japanese highschool boy] has X happen to him, it could happen to You
It did not mean
>[Average japanese highschool boy] has X happen to him, now mental gymnastic about being him
The people who latched unto that are the most obnoxious normalfags infesting this site today.

They can't even imagine themselves not being losers, so they have to do it by proxy.

>>283045220
In reality no one besides the severly mentally unwell insists on calling every male character a "self-insert" just because he's male.
The self-identified "self-inserters" are the only people who do that here

>>283041233 (OP)
I don't, but to be honest I have no idea what that phrase means nowadays, so maybe I do and I just don't realize it.

This is not a real thing. A “self-insert” refers to a type of shitty OC that fanfiction authors would fall into. People process the information directly, there is no form of ‘meditation’ known as self-inserting. It’s an intentionally uncharitable term purely used by cucks to make normal people who have normal fantasies sound like the abnormal ones. People regularly accuse other people of self-inserting into their own imaginations which is fucking deranged - imagine acting like you don’t exist inside your own mind.
The nu-term isn’t even useful anymore because nobody is willing to admit to something which is purely used as a pejorative, so you all pretend like you’re a bunch of scientists who engage with fiction in this extremely autistic thoughtless sterile way because you’ve been buck broken into it by jealous subhumans who cannot attain the apple in their mind.

>>283041455
The Light Novel generic protag-kun shits are a reason why this even exists in the first place as a debate, no, nobody self-inserts automatically. "You follow the story of a so and so." YOU OBSERVE THEM, you are not them unless especially stated to be so unlike in video games generally speaking where they expect you to "self-insert" when roleplaying to some degree with silent-no-voice-protag where you can make all the choices yourself. Therefore technically, you are self-inserting at that point but no books are like this unless they are CHOYA books which are outdated to Text Adventure Games and there you have it.

>>283046093
All fiction is about us observing someone.
Somewhere down the line people started to get very scared of those characters and resorted to calling everyone a self insert as a form of fake criticism.

>>283046175
>Bland generic otaku self-insert with 0 personality beyond: I have the same interests as my author.
That's a self-insert thoughbeit.

>>283045925
Okay I misunderstood/misread I thought you meant like "I would have done x instead" which is just the domain of fanfiction. But if you mean the question to be like
>I self insert as X because he is a black haired, black eyed, average build teenager who goes to school and lives a middle class life in a first world country even though he is mild mannered and scared of girls and sex
vs
>I self insert as X even though he's a fantasy alien martial artist and our situations in life couldn't be more different because he thinks the same way I do and does what I would do in his situation
Then I understand.

>>283046093
>YOU OBSERVE THEM
Yeah, what do you think the point of observing something is? This is the entire point. What happens to your cock when you observe porn?

>>283045821
Trannies, that's why. They self-inserted so hard into yurishit that they thought they are a woman and chopped of their testicles.

>>283046340
NTA but the second is about how I self-insert. Most of the time I ship the characters together but certain characters just kinda reflect me better than others, which I always like.

I self-insert my penis into my hand

>>283046434
Fanfic writing isn't self-inserting howeverbeit. That's just you writing headcanon, literally the fucking word for it.

>>283046340
Oh whoops, I wasn’t the guy you were responding to originally. I think when you think
>I would’ve done something different
It pretty much indicates you’re self inserting, just to a very light extent. If you disagree, that’s fine, but I think a little bit of self-insertion is natural to slip in. When it’s something like a harem manga, people will usually self-insert all the time, while other types are a lot more minimal. I think ‘self-inserting’ and there being a ‘self-insert character’ are a bit separated.

>>283041233 (OP)
I claim not to never self-insert and never having done it in any measure, because I want to to have the intellectual high ground since I'm deeply insecure and I fear /a/ might make fun of me for it if they somehow read my mind and realize that I do.
However I get weirdly heated up in shipping discussions about people who are definitely not me, I do wonder why...

>>283041233 (OP)
I don't. The concept of self inserting is foreign to me. I just root for the character I like. Think of it like supporting your favourite football team.

>>283041233 (OP)
Never really, if I'd self-insert I could get angry and confused at the decisions the character I self-insert as takes because it's not something I'd ever do myself.

This killed 60% of all /v/ermin tourists.

>>283041233 (OP)
guess i'm the "god type." i watch from the side or from above, i don't see any need to self insert into any characters.

>>283041233 (OP)
No. I'm just a spectator.

>>283041233 (OP)
I'm Doppelganger

It’s tragic to imagine someone blocking themselves from attaining any kind of pleasant feeling through a character so they can twirl their reddit self discarder mustache but if I depicted the same character being forced to eat smelly runny dog shit they would gag anyway

>>283041233 (OP)
My hips can't stop self-inserting

With anime/manga? No.
Playing RPG games? Yes, because you should do in game what you would do IRL.
For example: In "Mass Effect" series, you have many options to have sex and I skip all of them because I know if I was there, nobody would have sex with me (like in my real life).

>God type
I disengage from ego

>>283047336
>blocking themselves from attaining any kind of pleasant feeling through a character
What the fuck are you on about?

>>283041233 (OP)
I think I'm just a voyeur/god in this aspect. Just watching the action happen is enough for me, I don't think I've ever self-inserted in a scenario that already existed.

>>283046285
Correct, self-inserting was originally meant to refer to the author rather than the reader

>>283046053
Is actually very, VERY, I can't make that VERY bigger, simple, you can say "I self insert", but you can't say, never ever in any situation say, "you self-insert", anyone doing the latest is either a complete retard, or just pretending to be retarded for the lulz, and in both cases that's just pure cancer.

>>283041233 (OP)
>make up your own OC that is literally just (You) but powerful and cool
Am I the only one that does this?

>>283041233 (OP)
Literally only when looking at porn and maybe vidya where you create a character. Why would you self insert in anything else?

>>283050703
You know that there's a literal term for this, right?

>>283051622
what is it

>>283044323
underrated post

>>283041233 (OP)
God typ-
>they like to watch
Ew I'm not a cuck

>>283041233 (OP)
source?

>>283049775
Huh!!???? Wuhhh?? I don’t get this incredibly simple self-evident statement! Can someone explain?

>>283052729
You think not self-inserting makes it impossible to enjoy anything? That's mental.

>>283044258
You don't need to self insert for that, observation isn't necessarily detached. Just think of shippers, they clearly have an emotional stake in the events, despite not self inserting.
Someone with a charming personality will be charming regardless of whether they're talking to you or to someone else.

>>283052997
>invents an utterance nobody said out of pure illiteracy
I can’t even imagine how fucktarded your definition of “self-inserting” is

>>283052650
do you just listen to the sound in animu? do you have others read mango to you and describe the pictures?

>>283051899
Mary Sue. She was literally a fanfic self-insert character with "powerful and cool" maxed out.

>>283041233 (OP)
Nobody who self inserts into escapist media actually admits to it. They know it's sad, shameful behavior so they deny it and make excuses like they're just "observing", but if the main character does something they don't like, or something they don't like happens to them, they get upset as if it happened to themselves.

For example, if a cute girl in a haremslop manga ever shows romantic interest in any male character besides the MC, all the alleged non-self-inserters will break down about being cucked and the girl being a whore. But how does that make sense? Why would a reader feel cucked by 1 male in the story getting female attention but not another? It's because they're self inserting as the MC. They want the MC they self insert as to get ALL the girls and view all other men in the story as competition who they don't want to get anything.

That's the entire reason haremslop is popular. If all self inserters liked doing was "observing" they'd be ok with watching a story about 5 guys and 5 girls pair off into monogamous couples and just "observe" each of their antics individually. But no, that's not what they watch. They only ever want ONE male character to get ALL the girls and anything else makes them cry and shit themselves about being cucked. Because they only character they want to see have anything good happen to them is the one they self insert as.

>>283041233 (OP)
Not as one of the characters, but sometimes it's nice to fantasize what would happen if you just got dropped as you are into a series' setting. A bit like daydreaming how you would get by if you were living in a medieval village, or what sort of job you would have had back then.

It's a different experience from creating an OC you like and writing/imagining a story about them, since it's more about trying to picture yourself in the situation and how you would realistically act and dress, which characters you would personally get along with (rather than necessarily the characters you like). Lot of fun, would recommend.

>>283041233 (OP)
No but I insert characters into each other.

>>283055719
>ignoring the “insert as bull” fags
have you considered that normal people just don’t involve male competition in their sexual fantasies regardless of winning or losing

>>283041233 (OP)
I used to be a doppelganger but then I switched to god growing up.

>>283041233 (OP)
I was a doppleganger but then I became a fedora tipping pretentious faggot god-type but then I grew up and put away my gay baby toys and binky pacifier and settled at chameleon

I'm pretty sure I don't self insert. But maybe I'm just misunderstanding the term like some people in here are saying. That's not to say I would never imagine if I were in a situation similar to something in a manga though. This whole argument always seems to settle on any way you experience a story being bad though like with >>283044323

>>283044323
I thought of this and posted this

>>283049775
>i sympathize with MC and feel happy MC succeeded :o

>>283041233 (OP)
The audience self inserting is not possible. The word was made up by yurifags.

>>283041233 (OP)
Yes, but only in schizo porn OCs where my waifu (me) is getting raped and bred by undead demon monsters.

>>283060718
Thing is that nowadays 99.99% of times people use "selfinsert" as an ad hominem, is not even a criticism to the work in question, but a direct attack to the person enjoying it, which yeah if you follow these kind of conversations most of the time the person screaming "selfinsert" admit to simply hate men and the idea of seeing them being happy.

>>283060718
>The word was made up by yurifags.
I noticed this as well.
>You're not voyeuring inside your own imagination? Here's an deranged term I invented to make you sound like an intruder inside your own brain. You're the weird one