Thread 283283231

At what point did OPM turn into dogshit?

>>283283231 (OP)
when that faggot murata decided to try rewriting the story

>>283283231 (OP)
Redraws just lost intreast

The webcomic is still kino

It's just the manga that became utter crap

>>283283231 (OP)
When it was about some unfunny joke of a guy one-shotting his opponents because he did some basic training

>>283283231 (OP)
For the manga it was Phoenix Man. Murata redrew the arc like five times.

>>283283231 (OP)
chapter 1

>>283283231 (OP)
>"""Story""" by Murata

>>283283265
Definitely this, but >>283283297 was a very close second.

>>283283265
>>283283297
These. No idea why Murata became so obsessed with redrawing these chapters 80 times

>>283283231 (OP)
Manga version of the monster association arc.
/thread

That 142 page chapter during the MA arc, it was a waste of time. So many pointless fights

>>283283297
Yeah I imagine having to wait 9 or even 12 months for tanks instead of getting 2-3 per year caused a lot of people to drop the manga. We even know it did, because you can literally see it on the sales chart, exactly where the delays caused by Phoenixman and Orochi happened (and some readers probably also stopped buying tanks there because the redraws were worse than the original online chapters).

>>283283231 (OP)
Wouldn't say it turned into "dogshit", especially compared to most other things, but there's two things that definitely robbed it of its early charme:
1. The redraws and more importantly rewrites of older chapters. Often for the worse (and to accomodate recent webcomic chapters even). But the general problem is that it made following the story hell. Not only did it make it more difficult to remember which parts of what happened were still relevant and which ones were retconned, changing stuff like who's alive or dead or changing characters, their traits and arcs. It also meant that what you were reading right now might not be relevant anymore at some point in the future.
2. It stopped being just a parody and started taking itself way too serious. This is true for the webcomic as well, arguably even to a bigger extent.

>>283283265
No.
The extras were dead, the monster was dead, it was good.
Problems started when somebody though that needed a rewrite.

Why is Murata so autistic for a manga that's not even his?

>>283283265
>>283283297
Those were kino. Or do you mean the rectonned versions of these fights?

>>283284259
Have you seen some retards here and other places? They feel entitled to even tell the authors they're doing things wrong and to write how they feel the story should go.

>>283283231 (OP)
The Manga? Monster Society sometime after either the Zombiman chapter or the Amai Mask Massacre
The Webcomic is apparently still good but I haven't kept up

It started getting worse after the monster association arc with tons of repetitive fights and mediocre character development (what was the point of Garou?). The recent arc about the ninjas and the strong guy is boring too. Its not just the redraws, is that the manga isnt a what it used to be anymore

I need Fubuki ass

>>283283231 (OP)
I enjoy both.

>>283283231 (OP)
it was in a slow decline before saitama vs. garou shat the bed monumentally

>>283284306
>kino
retard word

I keep seeing people praise the Saitama vs Cosmic Garou fight on social media and it brings me a lot of pain

>>283283231 (OP)
Probably Blast's introduction.

>>283283231 (OP)
One's version was fun

>>283284429
>It started getting worse after the monster association arc with tons of repetitive fights and mediocre character development (what was the point of Garou?).
This was really compelling and funny stuff in the webcomic so it's wild to hear how badly the manga butchered it considering MA was my favorite arc in the webcomic.

>>283283231 (OP)
Never. Still the coolest.

>>283283231 (OP)
The webcomic is still good but I felt a decline in the manga after the Boros arc when the tournament filler arc began. The point of no return was the awful adaptation of the Monster Association arc and the constant redraws, padded out fights, ruined humor, and changes to the writing/scenes that didn't seem major but ended up making the characters less compelling. Murata's the Ryu Nakayama of OPM.

>>283283297
Yup. Made following the chapters a pain in the ass from then on. I can't even figure out where I am in the story anymore, the only option would be to reread.

>>283283231 (OP)
when you showed up

>>283283231 (OP)
Murata rewrites chapters over and over, no one has the fucking patience to wait for that. He even saved mosquito woman

>>283284062
Webcomic is way more sincere than the manga, the manga is what made a joke of the Garou/Saitama battle. People ran with the whole "OPM is a battle shonen parody" shit and are unable to accept that it was never really that concrete. The original joke was simply a hero who’s already overpowered from the start. Gintama is more of a genuine battle shonen parody

Modern OPM is why I feel like waifubait just doesn't work. nobody gives a shit outside of Tatsumaki and Fubuki pinups

>>283285109
Something I'd like to know is whose idea the tournament arc was. We know that ONE wrote it, but did he want to do an original arc for the manga or did Murata request it for some reason?

>>283285202
>People ran with the whole "OPM is a battle shonen parody" shit
That's because it is. Or was, at least. And, yes, the webcomic started this whole "taking itself seriously" way before the manga did. And that's the problem.

>>283285200
>Murata rewrites chapters over and over
ONE rewrites them. Many of the rewrites are retrofitting the manga chapters for the webcomic's outcomes.
>even saved mosquito woman
That wasn't a rewrite. You could argue that Do-S was "saved" in a rewrite, but even then there would have been ways to bring her back without rewriting her death chapter and giving her revival powers. There was the fucking Phoenix fight that also brought other characters back.

>>283285502
>ONE rewrites them
ONE has been writing two serialised manga and the webcomic at the same time for the past two years, when the fuck does he have the time to even think about Murata's OPM?

>>283285202
I've heard it described as putting a joke character (Saitama) in a serious battle shonen world. That's as far as I would go in putting OPM in a box. I'm not sure why everyone is so obsessed with the parody tag.

>>283285647
That's probably the problem. The man can't stop getting distracted and just wings it.

>>283285669
Because it is a parody. It takes genre tropes and subverts them for comedic effect. That's what a parody is.

>>283285703
Yeah, call it whatever, just don't be upset if it does something that doesn't fit the label.

>>283283231 (OP)
It really hit for me during the kid emperor vs phoenix man fight. Wasting months to redraw and expand a fight that didn't even exist in the webcomic.
I stopped closely following the releases after that.
Garou fight was the last hope for many here, but the table, the space bullshit, and the time rewinding just for the zero punch joke was awful.
I completely stopped reading both versions after that. If ONE is approving these changes, he's just as bad.

>>283285758
Well, the problem is more that it stopped doing the thing that made it a parody. I miss that.

>>283285994
>If ONE is approving
>approving
Murata doesn't actually need ONE's approval. He got it when he originally acquired the legal rights to adapt OPM with Shueisha acting as a publisher. This is the part that a lot of people don't seem to understand. ONE is not in constant contact with Murata supervising every single change and exercising power he doesn't have. Most of the time Murata is on his own, referencing webcomic updates ONE made years ago.

I really don't believe ONE cares that much about what happens with the manga.

Gotta wonder what was worse for the series: Madhouse not doing a second season for the anime, or Murata doing redraws and going way off script?

>>283283231 (OP)
Never did. Its "fanbase" however..

How did Murata ruin something as good as Amai Mask's arc or OPM in general?

>>283285703
Saitama’s strength and disillusionment with other character’s backstories is the only “subversion”. There’s clearly sincere attempts at action and character development even early. One punch man as the entirely parody and gag manga you imagine it only exists in like the first dozen chapters. Stop being allergic to sincerity, just because the characters are goofy sometimes.

>>283288960
Right. Because the other heroes, their whole organization, including literal power levels, and the monsters totally aren't a play on genre tropes, right?

>>283285109
>ruined humor
what? you didnt like nichirin apple?

Attention: I am God experiencing itself.

I am hallucinating this image board.

>>283289213
Yeah and despite being based on tropes they’re never being “deconstructed” whenever they get screen time. Does leaning in on being silly and poking fun on shonen mean there can be absolutely zero serious storytelling or action and it has to be Dr slump? The manga did an arc full of what you want with the tournament and it’s nobody’s favorite because having Saitama jadedly one punching someone and interrupting their backstory after they underestimate him over and over again without the rest of the cast to help create intrigue and stakes gets old fast. The only reason the scenes with kabuto, sonic, and hammerhead work is because the story plays it straight and allows you to get invested even if it’s stereotypical.

>>283283231 (OP)
when the manga randomly started a filler tournament arc you knew it was over

>>283289853
>“deconstructed”
Stop using words you don't know the meaning of.
Nothing needs to be "deconstructed" for a parody. Those things are subverted tropes for the very reason that they are tropes, but not played straight like other genre series would do them.
>mean there can be absolutely zero serious storytelling
No one ever said that. Read my post here:
>>283286004
>the problem is more that it stopped doing the thing that made it a parody
I.e. it can do as much serious storytelling as it wants, but as long as it does comedy via subversion, it is a parody. When it stops doing that, it isn't anymore. And it definitely doesn't do it in a significant way anymore. Now, you can argue that that's not a problem for you because you never cared for the parody aspect that dominated the start. What you cannot argue is that it therefore never was a parody.

>>283283231 (OP)
Tournament arcs followed by frequent redraws.

>>283285502
>Many of the rewrites are retrofitting the manga chapters for the webcomic's outcomes.
LMAO. What webcomic outcomes? The manga is entirely different story as of now, that takes inspirations from the webcomic on a surface level.
And don't you see a fatal contradiction in your own logic? If it's ONE still writing the manga why would there be a need in the first place to redo the past chapters to be inline with the current webcomic story that is years ahead of the manga? He already has the fucking story. It's only Murata's fanfiction that constantly contradicts the original and itself, can do a U-turn literally the next chapter several times, because there's zero planning involved. Nothing like a perfectly structured story ONE has wrote

>>283283231 (OP)
When it decided to insert a whole new arc into the middle of the story.

>>283290542
This.

>>283290424
>What webcomic outcomes?
The big phoenix redraw happened just as Amai Mask got his rememption-by-getting-called-a-cool-guy in the webcomic. Right thereafter the Do-S death chapter got retconned to take out Amai killing the mercenaries, to the point where he doesn't even do the "Han shot first" thing anymore. Are you trying to tell me that Murata, who even confessed to not liking the character, would do that without ONE meddling?

>>283290355
Okay so when did it stop being “subversive” enough for it to not be considering a parody for you?

>>283290742
There was a chapter where ryumon got displayed as being one dimensionally evil and colluding with the monster gambling ring not too far from the time when it was revealed he actually was just a genuine and authentic guy. Why was the ninja arc rewritten like twice over a year and a half just to competely change over the idea that “that man” was a villain and make him a mind controlled partner of the manga’s version of blast who clearly is nothing like his webcomic counterpart.

Why people gotta be hating on the tournament arc? It's good, it was the last time the manga was good.

>>283290900
Well, the rewrites are a complete mess with inconsistent characters, but so is the webcomic itself.

>>283291117
What is inconsistent about them?

>>283290971
It's bad. You're just the type of tard who says something is good because it made you laugh twice.

>>283283231 (OP)
After the monster association arc. All this ninja village god stuff is lame.

>>283290752
Gradually throughout the Monster Association plotline. Particularly by the point the redraws happened. They themselves took the subversion out of the original chapters and replaced it with prolonged fight scenes or completely trite genre conventions.

is the neo heroes robot arc going to be the last webcomic arc?
forte, blue, etc. are recognizing saitama and drawing inspiration from him. hero society and society in general has been upended.
seems we're pretty close to saitama being widely acknowledged. but i could see there being a couple more arcs before that point.

>>283290742
>The big phoenix redraw happened just as Amai Mask got his rememption-by-getting-called-a-cool-guy in the webcomic
1. What does the phoenix redraw has to do with AM or the webcomic?
2. ONE has had posted on twitter he has nothing to do with the rampaging retcons
>Right thereafter the Do-S death chapter got retconned to take out Amai killing the mercenaries
>Are you trying to tell me that Murata, who even confessed to not liking the character, would do that without ONE meddling?
Yes. Are you trying to tell me ONE would force Murata to redraw volumes worth of content because he suddenly decided AM is le good now and didn't know it preemptively while writing MA arc? The retcon doesn't "redeem" AM: he still tries to kill the mercanaries, his previous violent deeds are still there unretconed. He didn't even need redemption in the first place. Only Muratard whose brain is corrupted by western comic book movies thinks that every hero needs a flawless reputation while in the webcomic AM even in his latest arc considers sacrificing civilians
>even confessed to not liking the character
He still did the character dirty during the surface battle

>>283291197
Sorry i mewnt what makes the webcomics a complete mess and inconsistent.

>>283291178
Well, let's take the example I gave before: A character that's painted as unsympathetic getting a redemption via the main character stating an unexplained and seemingly unfounded opinion. That's not consistent character writing, is it? And it's true for many of the characters, they sometimes just act out of plot necessity (ONE getting some quick idea, seemingly), not due to a character trait or deeper motivation.

>>283286351
murata talked before about receiving "notes" from one at some point so you might be correct. that's a far cry from close collaboration and constant communication.

>>283291262
There’s still potential development left for tons of characters like Tatsumaki, fubuki, sonic, and answering questions related to blast (and god if it even exists in the way we think it does)

>>283284062
>This is true for the webcomic as well, arguably even to a bigger extent.
Totally true. During the Mob Psycho detour something was lost. Saitama is way too preachy now and his yapping bug is slowly spreading to every other character. It's, honestly, tiresome to read it most of the time.

>>283291318
oh yea i forgot about god despite looking at those murata chapters of him a few weeks ago. that's definitely got to be the end game. maybe one will finally introduce blast into the story in that arc.

>>283291264
>ONE has had posted on twitter he has nothing to do with the rampaging retcons
Yeah, I was here for that "It tótally wasn't ONE" cope when he made that tweet. You realize that it's meant to be complementary, right? Trying to give Murata some credit, not to distance himself from the chapters. Good team leaders do that all the time in all kinds of businesses.

>>283291391
>You realize that it's meant to be complementary, right? Trying to give Murata some credit, not to distance himself from the chapters
WTF is this retarded as fuck cope? Japs aren't going to just trash their coworkers openly. Obviously ONE has to distance himself from Murata with some plausible deniability. That tweet basically reads as ONE calling Murata a retarded fuck.

>>283283231 (OP)
The raid was extremely dragged out for no reason and Garou vs Saitama was a massive downgrade from the original webcomic fight.

>>283291297
>A character that's painted as unsympathetic getting a redemption
That's a comon trope in ONE's works. It's not inconsistency. Muratard doesn't have any subtlety and that's why when he sees such a character he goes out of his way to paint them as irredeemable. See Ryumon and McCoy for example

>>283291297
He gets redeemed narratively from trying desperately to save others and giving up his need to be seen as beautiful after speaking with Saitama who calls him human (whether he was listening or not). The narrative rewards him by having Saitama appreciate and recognize his efforts and give him will to live even after his truth is revealed. He’s not even that unsympathetic, he just hates monsters and villainy. Genos even comments on his ruthlessness towards evil and says he reminds him of himself before he met Saitama. I don’t get what’s inconsistent, he just got more onscreen development to show he isn’t one note. Any other specific examples?

>>283291419
>Obviously ONE has to distance himself from Murata
You're a fucking retard if this is how you actually read that text.

>>283291391
Yes. He suddenly decided to give Murata some credit when the whole shitshow has started, that it is his achievement. Lmao

>>283291522
>That's a comon trope in ONE's works. It's not inconsistency.
It absolutely is inconsistency. That it's common in an author's work doesn't make it a trope. It makes it the author's blind-spot.
>after speaking with Saitama
See, that's the problem. It comes out of nowhere and the motivation is literally "MC says X is cool, so nothing that happened before matters". That's not how character arcs work.

>>283283231 (OP)
Story by ONE

>>283291592
No, he's right, you coping mongrel. How is saying he had nothing to do with the shit the other person did not distancing?

>>283291729
>saying he had nothing to do with
That's not what he said.

>>283291666
Why are characters not being one note evil and having depth and surprising the reader from their judgments inconsistencies? How does it come out of nowhere? He thinks Saitama had potential to be the “ultimate hero” because of his strength, and got obsessed with the prospect because he didn’t think he could fulfill it as himself. What makes you say nothing before it matters? He says himself that he thinks his monsterization is progressing and he might cease to understand what it means to be human.

>>283291666
>That it's common in an author's work doesn't make it a trope
it's literally the definition of a trope
>It makes it the author's blind-spot
He's done it intentionally. You liking it or not is another question
>It comes out of nowhere
Never happened
>MC says X is cool, so nothing that happened before matters
Also never happened. AM was "redeemed" (as if he needed to be) by his actions not by Saitama's speech. Imagine being this dense, holy fuck

>>283291896
>characters not being one note evil
But they are, until they very suddenly are the exact opposite. That's not the same as
>having depth
It's a character rewrite. It's unearned. It's inconsistent.

>>283291961
>But they are
They aren't. In the webcomic at least. Try reading the source material we are actually arguing about

>>283291961
What did the characters do that made them completely one note evil that makes their redemption entirely impossible?

>>283291900
>it's literally the definition of a trope
No. A trope transcends a single author's work. And a trope has a purpose. An actual trope, that is, not what gets an article on tvtropes.
Lazy writing by an author is just that, lazy writing.
>He's done it intentionally.
Oh, I'm sure he's intentionally giving characters compltely new traits out of nowhere in the middle of the story. Doesn't mean it's good writing.
>Never happened
It happens all the time. How is the Amai Mask thing not out of nowhere? What about the character before the aforementioned point in the story ever suggested anything about a redemption?
>(as if he needed to be)
I see, that's your problem. You don't even seem to notice how the way he is before the point is not at all consistent with the way he is after the point.
Why would the character he once was even care about what Saitama says about him?

Shadow Ring is best girl

>>283292130
Think you meant Lin Lin?

>>283292023
>They aren't. In the webcomic at least.
We're talking about the webcomic. And you fail to make an actual argument.

>>283292097
>What did the characters do that made them completely one note evil that makes their redemption entirely impossible?
In Amai Mask's case: Kill innocents indiscriminantly, repeatedly. That was his main point, both in the webcomic and the manga.

Is it wrong that I like a certain cyborg's cute butt?

>>283292186
Who did he kill that was innocent in the webcomic?

>>283285411
How? ONE's humor is still there.

>>283292247
yes because you can't breed her

>>283292181
I know what I said.

>>283292340
Says who?

Right around the time that Myrata decided to butcher the Monster Association arc and ruin the Garou fight.

>>283292351
having 71% of your body turned into robotics make it highly unlikely that her womb or ovaries are still functional

>>283292425
What reason would their be to get rid of the womb and ovaries? To put a drink dispenser there?

>>283292281
The aliens he kills were in the webcomic, if I recall correctly.
But he doesn't really care much whom he kills at any point, does he?

>>283291197
I meant when in the webcomic did it stop being parodical to you.

>>283283247
fpbp

>>283292117
>No. A trope transcends a single author's work.
The trope of seemingly shitty guy turning out to be a misunderstood good guy transcends far beyond ONE's work, illiterate retard
>I'm sure he's intentionally giving characters compltely new traits out of nowhere in the middle of the story. Doesn't mean it's good writing
If it doesn't contadict their previously established character or shows them from the new angle, it could be a good case of character development
>How is the Amai Mask thing not out of nowhere?
How it is
>What about the character before the aforementioned point in the story ever suggested anything about a redemption?
He's a hero. A bit of a prick, but still a hero
>You don't even seem to notice how the way he is before the point is not at all consistent with the way he is after the point.
That's again might be a case of character development. And AM's is a great one. He finally accepts and finds peace with himself
>Why would the character he once was even care about what Saitama says about him?
He was constantly obsessed with public reception. Why would he not care about the opinion of a person he holds in high regard and even sees his dream in him?

>>283292467
The aliens aren’t “innocent” as we know of them. They helped genocide the entire city and are clearly not regretful about it and are just surprised they got beat. He’s just ruthless towards evil. Morally grey at worst at the point. And like I said previously Genos says he reminds him of himself a bit later after he does it, calling him eager to exterminate evil and saying something bad probably happened in the past. Clearly trying to put in our heads that he isn’t completely one note.

>>283292485
It's even more gradual there. Mostly because the fights never become very detailed and the general pacing is quicker, so it's less about anything being too dragged out and elaborated on, but more about the parodistic and subversive elements getting dropped or receding into the background more and more over time. By the time the webcomic got to the Monster Association arc, it had already been streamlined to where the only thing that still was subversive was Saitama's titular one-punch.

>>283292560
Kinda fucked up how people still romanticize Boros even though he's likely slaughtered billions of creatures without a care.
Wanting a poetic good fight doesn't excuse wiping a random city out of boredom.

>>283283231 (OP)
I stopped reading when Tatsumaki spent a year fighting the villain with glasses

>>283292560
>The aliens aren’t “innocent” as we know of them.
Not any worse than Amai Mask himself.
>He’s just ruthless towards evil.
Except that he's just ruthless in general. Again, that's his whole point.

>>283283231 (OP)
Kid Emperor vs Phoenix Man. Dragged on for way too long. Worst drop was Blast and Saitama vs Garou (real)

you guys can stop pretending, we all know that void vs blast messed this up more than any previous redraw did, even reddit was enraged if i remember

>>283292186
>And you fail to make an actual argument.
I actually made an argument just as supported as yours. You said AM is one note evil. I said he isn't

test

>>283292629
>the only thing that still was subversive was Saitama's titular one-punch
When was this not the case?

>>283292711
The ninja arc redraws were genuinely some of the worst writing I've ever seen in a manga, it went so far beyond even just being a butchery of the webcomic. I could not fucking believe my eyes reading the chapter he tried to pull the "actually, Void's plan was to use God's power, spread it around among the ninjas, and then use them as an army against God!" twist.

>>283292888
It ought to convince the remaining apologists that Murata has control over the creative direction of the manga, but I know those people will remain in denial forever.

>>283292771
When the heroes and their association were introduced. It had a bit of fun with the monsters, the heroes being oversimplified, power-leveling and so on. But it really didn't last all that long.

>>283292629
How are the elements no longer your definition of subversive? The monsters and characters are still based on tropes like you said? Is garou just being a guy who pretended to be monster and wearing jeans and sneakers during his fight with Saitama not subversive? Is ryumon being a good person despite looking like sociopathic yakuza member not subversive? Is child emperor sobbing after his giant mech gets completely outdone by bofoi ijn a few pages not subversive? Is Saitama defeating the final boss of the ninja arc offscreen when flash and sonic are about to confront him not subversive? Is Saitama not caring about the rival hero group and joining a group of losers because he hates his hero name not subversive? Is darkshine getting his confidence back because he ultimately just needed to take a mental health break not subversive? Are most monsters still not subversive because of their humorous designs and origins? Are Rover and black sperm being relegated as pets despite being high tier monsters not subversive? Is all this not enough for it to be considered a "parody" for you?

>>283292918
The literal editor note when those redraws started that specified they were requested by Murata didn't convince them, so they're never gonna get it.

>>283292666
Whether or not he was in the right isn't what I'm arguing. Can he not grow as a character beyond this one action? All he has done up to his redemption in the story is being ruthless towards monsters (he hasn't attacked another human) and being upset that the other heroes don't strive towards his ideal vision of a hero. How is he ruthless in general that you can believe the story presented him as 100% evil with no possible chance of character development. Genuinely asking, are there any other characters in webcomic you think shouldn't have any development because you think it would be inconsistent?

>>283284733
just means cinema.

>>283292956
Child Emperor crying because his mech is a failure is not subversive, because he's literally a child going up against a far more experienced opponent who is also his former mentor. What expectations are being subverted? When Bofoi turned out to be a well meaning guy it didn't subvert expectations either, because the narrative was keeping it intentionally ambiguous and painting him as a complicated figure. This is literally just characterisation and storytelling, there's no parody.

>>283283231 (OP)
the manga turned into fillershit and then simply became worse than the webcomic
the reason i dropped it is due to the constant child emperor wanking

>>283290424
So who do you think changed the manga in the first place with a filler arc and new characters? And how is it perfectly structured when he’s adding characters he only introduced in the manga that are written completely different in the webcomic?

>>283293357
>he's literally a child
He's a "child" who's one of the smartest people in the verse, who was in countless life and death situation, who fought dragon level monsters by himself and never broke down. And suddenly he's crying like a baby just because his ego shattered with his toy. A "child" like HIM having a childish break down is subversive
>This is literally just characterisation and storytelling
What about the rest of the examples that anon posted?

when the stylus touched the tablet

>>283283297
Why is Murata such a fucking hack

>>283293578
>So who do you think changed the manga in the first place with a filler arc and new characters?
Which one? The tournament arc was written by ONE, it doesn't ruin the original story and events unlike Murata's fanfiction which started with the surface fight and completely butchers everything that made the original story good
>And how is it perfectly structured when he’s adding characters he only introduced in the manga that are written completely different in the webcomic?
That only happened with Suiryu and he did that organically

>>283283231 (OP)
When he started streaming his progress and niggers from here influenced him.

was garou becoming stronger than old saitama a decision the editor forced on murata in order to differentiate garou from boros for shounen readership?

or did murata butcher it himself

>>283293590
You do have a point there. After all the shit he’s been through that’s what makes him breakdown?

>>283293744
I highly doubt he has an editor, all the fucking redraws killing the momentum is something even the most incompetent subhuman editors wouldn't allow

>>283283231 (OP)
When the MA arc was getting rewritten in the middle. I would have accepted it if Garou wasn't given an unnecessary power boost. Saitama beating his face in while calling out his bullshit was better. On top of that the story introduced Blast way too early and added unnecessary lore to God that ruined mystique.

>>283293590
An example serves to illustrate a broader point, that the anon in question is playing fast and loose with terms and misreading the characters.

>>283293759
Because the possibility of dying in battle against monsters is bad, but not as psychologically devastating as having your identity as a genius robot guy completely dismantled when a dude casually out-geniuses and out-robots you and calls you a stupid child (and you know he's right).

1. the joke got old
2. all the shit that happens between the set-up and the punchline of the joke is fucking horrible.

Child emperor is a genius hero. He basically never truly behaves just like a child. In utilization he’s essentially an adult. This is a trope in it of itself. How is him breaking down and sobbing like a child after his giant cool mecha he summoned from space gets completely outclassed in a few pages not subversive? I never mentioned Bofoi’s reveal, don’t know why you brought that up. What about everything else I said?

>>283293717
So it’s Murata’s fanfiction if you don’t like something but it’s canon and doesn’t ruin the events in the story when the only reason it’s being changed at all is because of the new characters and plot devices introduced in the tournament arc by One himself. It’s hilarious how you guys think that changing the story to such a degree would mean that the adaption was going to be completely faithful. As for Suiryu yes bringing a character in just to retcon him is not perfect in the slightest sense

>>283283231 (OP)
When Saitama did not immediately correct Tatsumaki.

Delusional faggots here will really try to gaslight you into thinking ONE's style of writing isn't that different from Murata and that you cannot tell the difference.

>>283294019
I know you’re trying real hard to prove your argument but no that makes no sense especially when you consider how old MK is and how non threatening that situation was to the MA arc

>>283294184
OPM story was always mid. the joke was interesting but it doesn't work when stretched into a serialized comic.

>>283288960
The timing in the original is just better. It took itself seriously and had the funny parody moments, but it never overstayed its welcome in any of these. Murata's balance of these aspects is completely off.

>>283294237
Try making an actual argument about the topic at hand, braindead fucking retard.

>>283294035
i disagree with both

>>283283231 (OP)
When editor-san let Murata redraw shit constantly instead of wrangling him

>>283294046
(me)
>>283294019
> the anon in question is playing fast and loose with terms and misreading the characters
How am I misreading characters? Also I'm literally playing by your term of subversion after you rejected the term "deconstruction".
> the possibility of dying in battle against monsters is bad, but not as psychologically devastating as having your identity as a genius robot guy completely dismantled
How would getting your pride destroyed be worse to a regular child than possibly killed horribly by a literal monster to a child? I

Delusional retards actually believe that the manga isn’t its own continuity at this point with One writing the chapters and Murata adding some ideas of his own

>>283294237
But it actually works when stretched into a serialized comic, thanks in part to the fact that the joke doesn't actually happen that often.

>>283283231 (OP)
these Saitama moments fekt forced an on the face as fuck
I hated that "your kungfuck is so cool, Garou" panel too

>>283283247
yeah, fpbp

>>283292985
Wow it’s almost as if it’s not only padding but the arc is so damn boring Murata has to try to make it interesting because of the declining manga sales

>>283285106
I unironically only started to read it for Psykoss and Tatsumaki. Fubuki a good find too.
webcomic can eat dirt, frankly

>>283294113
>So it’s Murata’s fanfiction if you don’t like something
That's just the side effect of Murata being a shit writer. But no, the fanfiction in this case is determined by how the adaptation misunderstands the intentions of the original work replacing it with something else. ONE would he still be the writer of the adaptation couldn't posiibly missunderstand his own fucking story. And also by factual evidence like ONE's tweets, story changing it's course completely with each redraw, which couldn't possibly happen with a designated writer, whose job is writing and preplanning the story.

>changing the story to such a degree would mean that the adaption was going to be completely faithful
It could easily be faithfull enough until a certain point at which Murata took the reigns

>bringing a character in just to retcon him is not perfect in the slightest sense
It didn't retcon him. The webcomic and the manga are two completely different stories by now and webcomic Suiryu still works perfectly fine without the manga context

>>283294396
>One writing the chapters
*of webcomic
>Murata adding some ideas of his own
*fanfiction

>>283294318
You're also forgetting that Child Emperor was highly agitated because he was on drugs, he got into a heated argument with someone he respected, and his friends were being held hostage because they didn't listen to his warnings. He was under a lot stress.

>OPM Webcomic
A simple, well-told story
>OPM Manga
Pretentious shit

>>283283231 (OP)
i though this panel was fake. i went to read it and (sadly) its not.
grim

suiryu appeared in the manga first right?

>>283294709
Yes but ONE clearly wrote the tournament arc.
Again, if you have even the slightest bit if reading comprehension or media literacy, you can see the differences in writing style between the two.
ONE stopped caring about the manga sometime before the MA arc began.

>>283294762
>ONE stopped caring about the manga sometime before the MA arc began.
Not it was in the middle of MA arc. More exactly the Psykorochi / the table turn thing

>>283294762
i wasn't weighing in on that debate. i was just curious if that were true

>>283294709
Yep. Sourface is another character that debuted in the manga before getting a cameo in the webcomic.

>>283283231 (OP)
The premise was good but it really didn't warrant more than 3 arcs. Writers these days are taught to extend things out as much as they can and it just turns to shit after a strong start.

Arc 1: season 1, it was good and it even set up some mysterious that could be used for future arcs. I don't remember now but it should have ended with him becoming a official high ranking hero
arc 2: After spending all of season 1 trying to finally get recognition he gets some. However he realizes this doesn't make him happy either and he still starts to seek new goals to reinvigorate him. In this arc a new big bad villain is introduced from the beginning that he will defeat at the end. Inbetween, antics ensue
arc 3: after realizing in season 2 that his role as a hero shouldn't just be self serving he now uncovers the conspiracy plot of the other heros in the heros organization. This season is about uncovering the conspiracy and dealing with it.

After the third season long arc in which he was conflicted in feeling duty bound to be a hero despite not enjoying it but also finding a reason to continue he realizes he continues because of the friends and super hot loli psychic gf he made along the way. The manga/show/ ends in one final gag because it never should have been anything more than a comedy anime.

>>283288960
Ah yes, nothing more sincere than a super hero who everyone just thinks is tough even though he never does anything and is actually weak or a guy dressed as a dog. So sincere.

>>283283231 (OP)
I think the final redraw of the phoenix man vs child emperor fight was when I knew it was over, but when he ruined Darkshine's side story that was the final straw. I'm told it got even worse after that and I believe it but I was long gone

I need Seiko tummy

>>283294574
The tournament was One’s fanfiction and it was hot garbage so don’t act like it was only Murata’s writing that people didn’t like. People still complaining even when Murata is drawing a completely faithful chapter so it doesn’t matter what he does. It just says a lot about you if you can’t understand the manga but considering you just brought up the fact that the manga and webcomic are two completely different stories because One started it himself why wouldn’t you simply believe that he’s writing both differently? And if Murata took the reins why is the story not drastically different as your eve been led to believe?

>>283295109
Garou second guessing himself constantly throughout the fight, constantly fighting with himself internally about not wanting to bully him, it was disgusting how that fight was butchered.
Only because Murata is too fucking braindead to understand "show, not tell".
>TRUST ME READER GAROU IS NOT A MONSTER HE IS A HERO DEEP DOWN EVEN THOUGH HE SAYS HE IS A MONSTER LOOK LOOK AT HOW HE DOUBTS HE IS ACTUALLY A HERO READER

>>283294623
>of webcomic
*After hiatus
>fanfiction
*Manga

>>283294271
>>283294404
but it clearly doesn't work still because it turned to shit and now you have actual retards claiming it was always a sincere show about a super hero that could beat villains in a single punch.

>>283295166
>Suiryu's got those "make me an uncle" eyes.

>>283283231 (OP)
It overstayed its welcome and One losing interest in the series. Compare it to how fast he finished Mob Psycho and you will see how he just isn't as interested in it. Like fucking seriously its been 12 years already and the series isn't even halfway done yet.

>>283295390
The webcomic remains as good as ever, with the art only getting better. The story remains consistent in the webcomic.
I don't know what kind of bullshit you are spouting here.

>>283295182
People complained about the tournament because it delayed the MA raid (in hindsight, LMAO) and gave panel time to a new character except everyone likes him now that he's part of the webcomic. Also people complained that Saitama doesn't do enough in the MA raid but the tournament is bad somehow even though Saitama plays a bigger role in it.

>>283283265
I dont remember this

>>283295502
Because it was rewritten.

>>283295182
>One’s fanfiction
LMAO
>it was hot garbage
It wasn't the best part but it's still miles above any Hackrata's fanfiction
>it was only Murata’s writing that people didn’t like
No. But Murata’s fanfic is far more hated than ONE's filler
>People still complaining even when Murata is drawing a completely faithful chapter
Can't just add a berry on a shitpile and say it's good now
>the manga and webcomic are two completely different stories
It wasn't always like that. A few years ago the webcomic could be considered a draft, while manga added meat to the bone creating a full fledged story.
>why wouldn’t you simply believe that he’s writing both differently
I understand writing an improved story, but the one that is worse? Why would someone do this?
>And if Murata took the reins why is the story not drastically different as your eve been led to believe?
It is. But Murata lacks the creativity to write a story of his own from scratch or alter it significally. That's why he took someone else's work and changed it according to his tasteless preferences. It's by literal definition a fanfiction

>>283285106
Solid argument

>>283295436
Are you not reading what I posted? I didn't say the Webcomic was bad, I clearly said that One is not interested in it you fucking retard. He releases 4-5 chapters per year and the worst one was in 2024 when he only fucking released 2 chapters. You could really tell that he is just bored of the series.

>>283295368
but the webcomic is still great so it does work?

>>283295182
Nothing will ever usurp the Ninja Village Leader manga filler as the worst arc in OPM history.

>>283290542
Unbelievable nobody mentioned this piece of shit filler

>>283295665
I am saying that it makes no sense to claim he is bored with the series when the webcomic story is still continuing strong, there is literally no reason for him to lose interest in the manga other than clashing with Murata and making it a hassle for him.

>>283294662
Does that ultimately still not make him crying after his final gambit gets outclassed immediately not a subversion? I’m not saying it isn’t valid for him to react that way. I’m addressing the anon’s point of the webcomic taking itself too seriously because it isn’t a “parody” anymore since it isn’t subversive.

>>283295436
>with the art only getting better
>pic
I hear the freetards gushing about "Theora making tremendous strides" in the shitshow html5 debates where they wanted to ruin all web video due to ideology

>>283295368
Why would he still be writing the webcomic and posting chapters for free more than a decade later if he wasn’t sincere? Why does he consistently draw pages and pages of detailed shots, genuine attempts at action, and try to develop these characters if it’s all completely ironic? Why did he try to make saitama a grounded character by having him be bored with his strength instead of just making his personality a gag and having him constantly break the fourth wall. Is the concept of an overpowered main character too strange to imagine that he genuinely cares about the story?

>>283296082
You are a schizo nigger without an ounce of soul within him. if you cannot see the progress of ONE's art you should shut your retard mouth.

>>283295665
The webcomic is hobby and he’s working on 2 other concurrent manga. If he truly didn’t care he wouldn’t even post his art of the characters on Twitter like he does.

>>283296107
well there well may be progress but stop acting like it matters, it isn't getting even close to leaving lame doodles territory.

>>283284062
It was never a battle shonen parody. Moreso a commentary on life and passion.

>OPM is a deconstruction
next you'll tell me titty anime is meant to be taken seriously.

>>283295905
>Continuing strong
>It will take another 10 years before its finished.


Its a webcomic how much time do you need to work on one chapter? 1 or 2 months should at least be enough.

>>283296170
I posted that page to showcase the narratives he writes, not to show the art.
There are plenty of pieces he has done where he shows how much he has really improved. The webcomic remains a hobby for him so most pages still show that he is not putting that much effort, but you can see when he tries it shines through.

>>283296333
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?

>>283295691
Still better than most shonen arcs but I guess the redraws have really gotten to you

>>283296146
Mob psycho was ongoing at the same time as opm, how come he finished mob psycho 6 years ago while the anime was running too? What is even left with opm’s plot that it needs at least two decades to finish?

>>283296185
This. OPM being made as a hobby for ONE and being a story about a guy who views what he's doing as a hobby is not an accident. That hobby just happens to be being a superhero.

>>283285141
Yeah I switched to just reading volumes as they come
No idea how far behind I even am at this point

>>283296365
Yeah opmfags are on the same level as hxhfags. Good thing the anime is bombing really hard and I hope One wakes the fuck up before people catch on that the series has gone to shit.

The manga is better than the shit tier webcomic and this is not up to discussion.

>>283296429
He doesn't care. Season 2 was also dogshit and he didn't care then.
Versus is going strong, Bug Ego is going strong.
Mob Psycho will remain as a passion project and beloved by fans. The webcomic remains and is beloved by fans.
The only thing being tarnished here is Murata's reputation. How's his anime studio going?

>>283296338
I just don't like these arguments in the stupid mangaXwebcomic tribal wanks. People vaguely wave "webcomic art improving therefore murata a shit" arguments but fucking get real people, One will not become a passable-skill mangaka.

There's not even reason he should be expected to, just get over the stupid "I identify as a fan of the wc so the other thing must be bad" kneejerking, people.

>>283283265
The absolute fucking cowardice it took to change this

>>283295446
It was the worst tournament arc ever written with nothing but one-sided fights but people were seething way more over the MA arc since they think that everything was Murata’s doing

The manga is worse than the god tier webcomic and this is not up to discussion.

>>283296501
>passable mangaka
Mob is a serialized manga, dumbass faggot.

I really love this cyborg like you wouldn't believe.
I've been loyal to her ever since 2020.

>>283296429
hxh and opm webcomic are elite series

>>283296593
how do you cope with the fact that she isn't as well-developed or complex as the other roster of opm characters? 2020 is kinda a short time for character development plus she's more of a side character than a main character

>>283296501
one's art is great tho

>>283296593
buh-buh-buh-based

>>283296652
>cope with the fact that she isn't as well-developed or complex as the other roster of opm characters
Meh, OPM characters aren't meant to be hyper-convoluted in the first place, they're literally parodies that ONE make for fun so there isn't much noticeable difference between her and the more familiar cast.

>>283295605
>It wasn't the best part but it's still miles above any Hackrata's fanfiction
There’s a reason why Mob threads are always shitting on One’s writing for a reason and his fanfiction as well
>But Murata’s fanfic is far more hated than ONE's filler
Yes I see people seethe over extended fights and giving characters more screentime for no good reason
>Can't just add a berry on a shitpile and say it's good now
I stopped reading right here. Now this is proof that there’s no point in arguing here since you sure do love praising One’s shitpile of art but will criticize Murata no matter what happens

>>283296724
Moe Moe Kikoho?!

>>283296383
Because mob psycho was envisioned with a shorter story and was a serialized manga? The opm webcomic is a hobby that he works on for fun. It’s entirely a passion project.
>what’s even left that takes two decades to finish
I don’t really understand what your trying to say but if you’re asking if there is still a decent amount of unfinished plot threads to keep the story going than the answer is yes.

>>283295682
How low are standards these days when fighting robot drones for several years is considered good?

>>283283297
I really hate how each redraw of this fight made it progressively worse

>>283296338
I hope you’re not trying to say that his artwork in MP is good

>>283296845
It’s a hobby yet he has to put out 3 chapters sometimes to pad the story out

>>283296872
It’s a hobby yet he has to put out 3 chapters sometimes to pad the story out

>>283296382
Genuinely what is there to get attached to. The arc gets between sonic and flash gets hijacked by Blast, we get introduced to his partner who turns out to be mind controlled by god and then they leave. It’s extremely short and has almost zero emotional or narrative climax. You would never guess it took a year and a half for Murata to land on that version.

>>283297395
When has he ever done that? Even if that were true what does that even have to do with it not being a hobby? He’s not making any money off of it, he updates whenever he feels like it. He would just focus completely on the manga instead of wasting time drawing full pages if he truly wanted to focus on monetary gain.

>>283283265
Came here to say this exact page. I will now leave.

>>283297498
Given how garbage the webcomic version was it’s not a surprise but once again it’s just padding. And a reminder that in the webcomic it was about Flash seeing Sonic again with a flashback just so Saitama can do his overused joke again. But people on this board acts like its like refined literature or some other shit

OPM (atleast the Manga) is satanic in premise because it feels like Murata want to tell us that the indomitable human spirit (embodied by Saitama) can overpower the creator of the universe (God)

>>283297810
All you are saying here is that jewish myth is anti human.

>>283297633
He’s drawn 3 chapters at once several times now and I doubt he can work on the manga full time with writer’s block otherwise he wouldn’t need a filler arc to avoid writing the webcomic

>>283297810
it's not satanic because it empower humanity but because it depict god as a grotesque monster lol but otherwise i agree

>>283283265
>People think Murata decided to change this
Lmao newfags

>>283296092
>Why would he still be writing the webcomic and posting chapters for free more than a decade later if he wasn’t sincere?
Fame and practice. Why do you believe its impossible for the artists to not get lost in his own bullshit?

>>283283247
Thread discussion should've ended here

>>283298435
>>283283247
If Murata hadn't picked it up and turned the kindergarten tier drawings and story into a proper manga, OPM would still be in the gutter and obscure at best.

>>283298435
Yeah except it's not Murata.

>>283285106
Tatsumaki sex appeal is really the only thing the manga has going for it anymore

>>283299155
she's irrelevant though.
Fubuki is the only one that matters.

>>283298813
Whatever happened to the other "proper manga" of murata?

>>283283231 (OP)
At what point did "dogshit" become the new obnoxious buzzword?

>>283299194
*blocks your path*

>>283296845
>There’s a reason why Mob threads are always shitting on One’s writing for a reason
Nah, those threads were just made by a single autist complaining that Mob doesn’t use his powers to lord over others and that being humble about your talents is “wageslavery.” He gets obliterated in every single thread without fail.

>>283299244
not interested until murata show us how she look like with torn clothes

>>283283231 (OP)
When it shift focus from Saitama. Monster Association Arc or whatever it's called.

I tried reading the manga and it's like 130 chapters of random shit and the guy with the weird hair. It's called One Punch Man, not "Everyone Else But Saitama"

>>283290420
ai slop

>>283283231 (OP)
Happens to all things good when they get big.
It's very reminiscent of GOT's downfall.
But the reason in this case is the butt of the joke getting to rewrite the joke and you get this hermaphrodite like abomination.
All in all it makes for some divine joke from the universe on ONE and his fans.

>>283298813
We’d be getting a kino BONES adaptation of the webcomic after Mob’s huge success if it weren’t for the Murata fanfiction we have right now. It’s awful thinking about what we’ve missed.

>>283299194
Undergrown Rover is so cute. He looks like a mini-Crocomire from Super Metroid.

I need Sonic ass

>>283283297
God i remember how hyped i got from this one

>>283296386
Wait a minute... Just like in the story where he's blamed for taking credit of the work of other heroes when it's actually his own, he's being blamed here for the ruination of murata work when its not his own.
It's like he is literally writing his own story. I wonder how the redemption arc will go.
Will Versus do that for him?

>>283298813
If only the webcomic could reach the level of kindergarten tier drawings

>>283296082
It's its own thing with actual soul.

>>283293744
Murata did ask for no editor interference in the contract, so it is definitely his fault.

>>283300268
I don't think an editor is needed if it were to continue following the webcomic so it's understandable. But now it's just whatever. Can it even be considered a real manga?

>>283294158
True, he should have corrected her right there and then and he shouldn't let people walk all over him like he does. He's just too much of a retarded character. It makes the series unsalvageable.

>>283300560
And that's exactly why it's only through the other characters that the series is enjoyable; the unfunny jokes of this shitty main character aren't funny at all.

>>283300604
>shitty main character
Gokutard detected.

>>283283231 (OP)
Chapter 1.

>>283283231 (OP)
Sometime in the early/mid garou arc, that was when the side arcs/redraws/main story changes started to actually affect peoples enjoyment of the work.

I still can't believe that out of the two ONE manga at the time, nobody cared about Mob Psycho when OPM was at it's peak and now Mob Psycho ended gracefully while OPM continues to be a dumpster fire

>>283300851
It helps that Mob's story felt more contained from the get-go and actually lead to a natural ending. OPM, even the ONE version, just keeps going with no end or even real progression of Saitama's arc in sight.

>>283283297
Why was this fight constantly redrawn? The finished version was just to wank Saitama and ended up being the worst of the lot. Otherwise, the initial versions were probably the best fight of the arc

>>283300372
Yeah, it is not like anyone would have seen that Murata would change the story on his own whim for some reason.
>If the author and the artist don't align their vision properly, the characters' images can become distorted, which can cause inconsistencies in the story. There was a time when I drew something in a way that forced the original author to change things later on. I really regretted that
It turns out that Murata never learned his lesson. Too bad, no one can bail him out this time. Good riddance.

>>283283247
This and confirming that tatsumaki wears panties.

>>283283265
/thread
It changed too much from the webcomic after this

>>283299247
It’s wageslavery because he’s not using his talents to do anything substantial yet hinders himself to just being the nail that doesn’t stick out. It happens basically every time a character needs to be humbled

>>283283265
Murata is a massive hack, but Im sure he's anything but a faggot

>>283301396
what others choose to do with their talents is none of anyone's business. there’s nothing wrong with someone deciding to work the hospital graveyard shift simply because they love what they do, even if they just happen to be the world’s greatest ukulele player by chance who prefers to keep that gift to themselves

>>283283247
Murata and One just do whatever the editor tells them to do like good goys
At least versus is cool

>>283300665
NOOO IF SAITAMA WAS PORTRAYED LIKE THAT PEOPLE WOULD THINK HE ISN'T A HERO FOR REAL HE LOOKS LIKE A BAD GUY (unlike Garou who is actually a hero at heart)

>>283299777
We all do

>>283302874
ZAMN!!!

Its a gag comic but also takes itself way too seriously. garou vs heroes army is the best manga fight ever drawn though.

>>283300665
I'm not a fan of Goku or DB though. Saitama is just trash and uninteresting.

>>283283231 (OP)
I stopped reading a long time ago but I've seen even normalfags complain about Murata's redraws, so probably when that started happening

>>283283247
It's not Murata's fault his editors are ass.

We need a new webcomic chapter because the anime is bombing!

>>283304279
Bombed so hard blacklash so bad the director quit.

>>283295502
We know, Murata

>>283301693
That’s a terrible argument when you’re in a thread bashing a man because he’s misusing his talents allegedly but there’s other things to do other then slave away at a dead end job

>>283304940
>when you’re in a thread bashing a man because he’s misusing his talents allegedly
That basher is only (You) tho
>because he’s misusing his talents allegedly
Not for you to deside. Not his fucking problem

>>283305014
You need to work on your reading comprehension

>>283296845
>There’s a reason why Mob threads are always shitting on One’s writing for a reason
A few schizos who get humbled instantly are not representative of Mob threads
>Yes I see people seethe over extended fights
Not just extended, completely changed with every good part from the original removed or put in the context it doesn't work in
>giving characters more screentime
What good is extra screentime if it's badly written? Yeah, it's total shit, but there're loads of it! Also giving the characters developments they weren't even supposed to get at this point in the story, which renders their personal arc meaningless afterwards. Hackrata can't help himself not blowing the load too early every fucking time
>Now this is proof that there’s no point in arguing here since you sure do love praising One’s shitpile of art but will criticize Murata no matter what happens
How exactly is that a proof of your schizo rumblings?. It's just common sense to consider good writing good and shit writing bad no matter who's behind it. And it's you who're clearly hellbent on dicksucking Murata while dissing on the author of the original without any proper reason so far, so nice projection

>>283305102
People aren’t really angry at Murata for misusing his talent but rather for using his own fanfiction to meddle with the original story. I think most people here wouldn’t mind if some amateur adapted the webcomic as long as it was done faithfully.

>>283303897
>ugh can't the characters stop showing emotion I just want to read popeye
What causes this braindead opinion?

>>283283231 (OP)
It always was

>>283298813
and? doesn't mean the dude can fucking write

>>283290971
Idk man, my fav part about it was when they were comparing Genos to all the other fighters, and how he basically mogged them in most aspects. (They fucked this up in the anime btw.) Otherwise, I felt it was just kinda alright, not super exciting. Goketsu became a nothing too which sucked

>>283304018
I don't agree at all. He's the most level-headed good human. In the olden days he would be the chief that the people go to solve conflicts.
Are you talking about the manga?

>>283283349
>>283283482
>>283300718
>>283305312
THIS!

>>283283357
>>283283482
>>283300718
>>283305312
THIS!

>>283291364
Plot twist: ONE's gonna have Saitama off-screen God and move on to other arcs after all the the effort Murata spent hyping God up to be this ultimate final boss of the series.

>>283299777
>>283302874
God bless.

>>283305302
You need to prove it’s Murata changing the plot and come to terms with the fact that the MA arc was always garbage. Extending most of the worthless fights is nowhere near as bad as you guys pretend it is

>the MA arc was always garbage
Agreed. The Murata fanfic version was goddamn awful

>>283306145
The changes could be done without ONE, not without Murata, you stupid fuck.
You should be beaten just for being stupid or trolling.
You deserve to be beaten either way.

>>283285200
>Murata rewrites
Story by one

>>283306317
Proof?

>>283306145
>You need to prove it’s Murata changing the plot
It's been proven countless times incuding several posts in this very thread, but you keep ignoring them, because you have no evidence or arguments to the contrary

>>283306317
Post by retard.

>>283283265
that whole arc ruined it all

>>283306317
Rewrites by Murata

>>283285238
The solution is for murata to make some r18 doujinshi

>>283305259
>A few schizos who get humbled instantly are not representative of Mob threads
Okay does no one giving a fuck about MP enough to make a civil thread about it sound better to you?
>Not just extended, completely changed with every good part from the original removed or put in the context it doesn't work in
Yeah seeing all those one-shots and wasted characters was pretty cool
What good is extra screentime if it's badly written? How was it badly written? If One said he wrote you would’ve liked it though and giving the characters developments did not render their personal arc meaningless afterwards
>It's just common sense to consider good writing good and shit writing bad no matter who's behind it
Except for when it’s a faithful to a webcomic chapter you retarded bitch. Take One’s tiny dick out your mouth since he’s not going to scribble out a chapter for you

When your quips don't work like they used to before...

>>283306391
>It doesn't matter where it's coming from.
Yeah, no. Miss me with that bullshit.

>>283306352
Muratasisters....

>>283306335
You mean the SM page even though it was clearly One retconning it since he forgot that he had to make him redeemable for his future character arc? It’s so easy debunking everything here

>>283306424
>retards posting this when they were dickriding how edgy Garou looked on the webcomic when he was getting humiliated by Saitama
You can’t get anymore ironic than this

>>283306454
Let's see Paul Allen's.

>>283306413
What is this dumbass on about?

>>283306464
Sorry you're retarded, goes hand-in-hand with enjoying the manga though

>>283306424
Isn't that the same pose that Garou had when he latched onto that new helicopter?

>>283306424
Isn't that the same pose that Garou had when he latched onto that news helicopter?

>>283306472
Don't talk to me, I don't speak ebonics.

>>283306290
I said post proof that it happened you delusional faggot and not from some random manchildren. You should be beaten into a coma for even thinking about posting this poor bait

>>283306469
>>283306454
This implies ONE isn't a big fan of "DBZ but funny" when Versus is literally that except with more power types.

>>283306473
I see you dodged how much of a manchild you are. Don’t you want to praise One’s shit artwork as usual? You can do it retard

>>283306497
You can just kill yourself instead. Why can’t you dickriders form coherent arguments?

>>283306501
>>283306538
I will genuinely beat the shit out of you reddit muratards if it was possible.
I don't care if you're mentally ill or whatever idea you have going in your head or whatnot.

>>283306552
Seethe more faggot. Now get back on topic and use an argument this time but it might be hard for you when considering your illiteracy

>>283306435
>clearly One retconning it
Clearly to Murata's dickriding fanboy? How is it clear again that ONE did? The fact the retcon came after the AM arc in the webcomic only proves Murata doesn't know shit about the future developments of the original story. Same thing happened with Ryumon too. It also doesn't explain all the other retcons that followed like phoenixman and orochi fights. Those changes are completely unrelated to the webcomic. They were just rewritten in a typical Murata's style and made worse
>It’s so easy debunking everything here
And it's even easier to rebunk >>283291264