Thread 283480319

Why don't VNs get anime adaptations anymore

Was there a sale on really comfy-to-live-under rocks a decade ago or something?

>>283480319 (OP)
They do? Also most VN, like yours, shouldn't get any adaptation.

>>283480319 (OP)
We have one this season.

>>283480319 (OP)
Because thanks to TikTok, brainrot, social media and AI slop everyone has the attention span of a house fly.
>thats why 99% of everything is Isekai, no one has the patience for visual novels.

>>283480319 (OP)
Last season we had like 4 kill yourself OP

>>283482478
It's not like even in the past anime adaptations of VN were given the number of episodes they needed to cover most or all of the content of a VN. Adapting VNs is worse with that than even adapting manga, which we also get a lot of that cover very little of the source.

>>283480319 (OP)
I love you Mikan!

>/a/ allows anime, manga, and even light novel threads
>for some reason VN threads keep being deleted/declared off-topic even though they're more culturally related to anime media rather than video game media
It's annoying man, if I'm allowed to discuss some light novel on /a/ that's never had an anime or even a manga adaption, I should be allowed to discuss a visual novel here.

>>283480319 (OP)
In the mainstream, VNs have evolved into gacha games which often use a VN-style of story telling. We still get the occasional gachashit adaption.

>>283482478
Very ironic to complain about the attention span of WN/LNs to prop VNs that are less of a book than the former lmao.

>>283482478
>>283484043
Yeah, most isekai adaptions are adaptions of light novels which have tens of times more reading than visual novels.

>>283484142
Do they? I'm not all that familiar with VNs, but is there actually less text or is it just split up in a way that makes it seem like there's less? Even if there's only a few sentences in a text box per screen, if it takes 100+ hours to go through the VN that could still add up. I'm sure it varies depending on the length of the VN though.

It takes around 2 hours to read a normal length LN, VNs are anywhere from a few hours to a hundred.

>>283484508
The vast majority of visual novels are no where close to 100 hours, even the popular ones.

Those kinds of ones are outlier kamige.

>>283480319 (OP)
Because the VN market is in freefall, which in turn is happening because it's being cannibalized by gacha games as well as other forms of media that don't require a major time commitment. Can't adapt what isn't being produced after the market for it has all but disappeared.

Needless to say the problem is not unique to visual novels. Regular novels suffer from this, too. There's way more competition than ever and many people will default to whatever entertainment offers the path of least resistence, assuming they aren't frozen by choice paralysis that prevents them from picking up any of the things they set their sights on.

>>283484568
Yeah because you're listening to voices.

>>283486066
Yes I'm also looking at pictures or animations, maybe a minigame or two or maybe it's even a SRPG

Unfortunately VNs are dying
Anyway I need moege adaptions of my favorite heroines
And adaptions of my favorite heroines from other VNs

Did you miss Nukitashi last season?

I just don't like the idea of VNs in general, having to savescum at every choice and needing a guide to get the True Ending sounds like ass.

>>283480319 (OP)
We've had several this year.

What's a NEVER EVER visual novel you wish would have gotten adapted?

Dengeki Stryker would have totally been /a/-core if it got adapted in the early 2010s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LGUxC8ZIFk

>>283487246
An (actually good) Tsukihime adaptation could save /a/

>>283487806
>Now I am going to overlay this nice image with tons of text covering the entire screen, making you close the text window to enjoy the view.
I hate this format so much.

>>283487213
>have to
>needing
Can you not just enjoy something? At least the first time through. If you really want to get the "true ending", save that for later and just enjoy the experience the first time through.
>>283487892
I mean it's the same with manga. You have pages of art with text bubbles over them. And in the case of manga you can't remove them.

>>283487246
I'm not a vn expert so I figure I might as well ask, why the fuck is "metafiction" such a common plot point in visual novels anyways? I've seen this trope a lot of times across very tonally different vns where the twist is fiction becaming reality, it's not real, or the characters become self-aware they're fictional characters (

>>283483955
because visual novels have /vn/

>>283487941
I wish we were in the timeline where manga/comics had alternating pages of text and art, instead of mixing them together.

>>283487246
subahibi

>>283487969
The format just lends it self well to that kind of gimmick. For instance, a movie can break the fourth wall, but due to the nature of the medium it has no access to the audience's reaction and can't incorporate it to really drive the idea home; it's a one-way street. A visual novel, on the other hand, can ask for your feedback and then incorporate that into its wallbreaking shenanigans; it can utilize the decisions that you made "against" you. Blurring the line between reality and fiction has a much better effect when you aren't just a passive recipient but take active part in shaping the fiction, or are under the illusion of doing so at any rate. Likewise why such an ungodly amount of visual novels have some sort of time travel/multiverse plot. The format is just inherently well suited for that kind of story.

>>283480319 (OP)
Muramasa

Visual novels sill never die while gacha shit in fact cant stop dying. Retarded gen z faggots.

>>283487976
We don't even discuss visual novels there bro

he box is a symbol of social isolation, you see. Mikan is afraid to come out of the box until someone finally shows her some love and compassion. I hope you can see where I'm going with this, anon. You are like Mikan, a sad, abused little puppy that just needs a little help to get out of the box. There are people out there in the world who would love you, if only you gave them the chance. You just have to understand that those people will never find you if you hide away from the world playing moege all day.

uminegro lost

>>283487969
>common
It's not.

>>283488759
KINOMASA WON

>>283480319 (OP)
This came out last year and it was a VN

No worries, bubby, the best visual novel is getting an anime adaptation any day now.

>>283488831
Muramasa is never getting an adaption thoughever

>>283488818
And it was awful.
>c: NTRJX

>>283488858
Other than clannad are there any great anime adaptation? Because i felt like most of the time is just advertising for the vn/ln/manga

>>283487246
/a/'s visual novel

Only kino gets kino adaptations

>>283488902
Dies Irae

Amatsutsumi could make for a good anime.

Wanko to Kuraso had such a dark undertone that nobody ever talks about.
>Government resurrects a race of beast people that went extinct in ancient times
>breeds them as pets
>mentally conditions them to think that any human that could love one romantically is insane
>are "unable" to interbreed with humans
I'm 100% sure that the government scientists altered them genetically to avoid human/beast people interbreeding so they don't displace humanity. Same thing in neko para with the genetically engineered cat girls not being able to breed with humans, it was done on purpose.

What's a visual novel you wish it never had been adapted?

>>283489047
Umineko. There is no point in trying to adapt a 100+ hour vn into a 12/24 episodes anime

>>283488966
yeah the anime would be forced to make the art good kek

>>283488902
ef: A Tale of Melodies
Steins;Gate
Kanon (even if vn is better)
ef - A Tale of Memories
H2O: Footprints in the Sand
Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai: Under the Innocent Sky (yes it is, fuck you JOP)

>>283489071
Uminegro lost

M*L adaptation soon

>>283488902
DEENgurashi had a lot of soul, and I'm tired of pretending it didn't.

>>283489071
>unironic uminegro shill

>>283489047
I have met anime onlies who legitimately think WA2 just ends right there and that's the entire story instead of like 15% of it

>>283489108
>mfw it will leave out karens route and mc will just mention a news report of a body being found on the beach.

midmasa lost, will never be top rated VN in any site

>>283489139
I'm not shilling, i'm just saying the anime is fucking trash

>>283489157
it already is doe

>>283489099
>yes it is, fuck you JOP
You can't say it's great when it neutered the best chapter in the game. The adaption did make some good changes near the end though

>>283488972
I know when I first read it ages ago I was just fucking baffled by how insanely "edgy" the MC was in contrast to the overall happy moege vibes.

I might be misremembering but wasn't he raped? Or was he an orphaned manwhore? And somehow this plays into how he's so good with women or something.

I fucking love Mikan

I love Karen

>>283480319 (OP)
We've had like 5 this year.

>>283489531
>>283488972
I'm wondering whether the writer started with that idea or came up with it after deciding on the main plot

>>283489708
But were they kino? I don't think so.

>the greatest VN to anime adaption was the first
Apologize.

>>283489738
Of course not. There are no Kino VNs, It's a LN

>>283487246
Sharin no Kuni directed from Ririko's perspective until the reveal.

>>283480319 (OP)
Silvie is such a cute retard

>>283489047
Kara no Shoujo. Adapting a dark murder mystery as a low budget hentai OVA was fucking criminal.

>>283480319 (OP)
Because Visual novels are just a superior medium and no matter what they do they cant get adapted properly

>>283491018
It's not like anything else gets adapted properly 99% of the time

>>283484043
This. VNfags have somehow deluded themselves into believing that VNs with pictures and music and one-sentence-at-a-time dialogue require more attention than WNs with nothing but text. Visual novels are closer to watching anime with subs than to real books.

>>283491018
Actually being able to depict underage smoking/drinking is also nice.

>>283491089
It's really not unless you read nothing but sloppa.

>>283484142
Read a vn firts then talk zoomer
Mushoku took 8 years to finish across 26 volumes, compare that to the average VN which is already complete since the very 1st day

>>283491191
Mushoku isn't even complete. A big plot point isn't solved by the end and is just left to some sequel that still isn't out lol

Considering Gnosia got adapted after years of being released, maybe the time will come for this VN as well

>>283491313
It was pretty successful and popular, so maybe.

>>283491191
>claims zoomers hate VNs because they lack the attention span
>also claims MT is bad because it took 8 years to finish and VNs are complete in 1 day
I swear to god, vntards are the biggest fucking retards. Your shitty Power Point games will never ever be real literature no matter how much you cope.

>>283489773
Wrong

https://vndb.org/v5710
https://vndb.org/v5712

>>283491506
If VNs aren't literature than WN/LNs sure aren't either, lol. Your retarded point is invalid anyways because not having the attention span to read a complete text isn't the same as not having the patience to wait years for an incomplete work that ends up having you wait only to be disappointed as an author shits up his work either because he's scared about sales or the reception of certain volumes or whatever the fuck.

>>283491506
>claims MT is bad because it took 8 years to finish
Are you able to understand why series being strung along to maintain sales is a bad thing for the overall quality of the story?

>>283491018
I'm still way too into manga and that monopolizes my time too much to really jump into VNs. I did start playing Little Busters but I only go through a little of it every year. That and, somewhat against your image, I saw that the most recent English release of Little Busters has its visuals cropped to 16:9 (indicating that they can have people messing with them after the fact). I was really disappointed when I saw that. I don't think I'm going to bother with rereleases from now on since I've seen a lot of them have similar issues. Being able to switch between Japanese and English on the fly is really nice though, and I was planning on going through it in Japanese.

>>283486066
200 page audiobooks are only 4-12 hours

>>283490526
Actually surprised SnK or G-Senjou never got an anime adaptation. Were they popular in Japan or just early EOP darlings?

>>283480319 (OP)
Because vns evolved to gachas

It's not like there has been a single adaptation of a vn that lived up to the hype of the source material

>>283493974
>evolved
no lol

>>283493974
Gacha is an inferior medium and there are pretty much no adaptations because they fucking suck

>>283493016
Sharin at least got multiple console ports/rereleases and a fandisk, so I would assume it was successful enough.

>>283480319 (OP)
Because it's a dead medium?

>>283491565
Those are just LN adaptations.

>>283491089
The popular ones will take more time to read but almost every LN is significantly faster paced than 99.9% of VNs. Saya no Uta is popular in large part because it's paced like a real book.

>>283480319 (OP)
VN's are no longer the trend, and even when it was most adaptions were awful.

>>283491018
VNs will never be good because they have non existent protagonists. They only thing they're good for is porn but you don't need to read for that

>>283495363
What nonsense are you talking about? If you're reading for an actual story there are many VNs with fully developed protagonists.

>>283495363
VNs aren't gacha

>>283495499
The only difference is one medium is popular and one isn't

They should make an anime out of Inuyasha-lite.

>>283495717
>talking about shit you don't know anything about
Why are brainlet retards like this?

>>283495752
Ah yes, one of the two good Yuzuge.

The ones with good stories tend to have unarousing erotic scenes, which renders them pointless

>>283491191
>Characters: 3097769
holy fuck that's a lot of people

>>283495857
Or go full band-ge

>>283496219
I wouldn't mind Yoshino route either.

>>283480319 (OP)
I love you, Mikan

>>283491089
Light novels take a few hours to get through a volume, and then you have to wait for the next one. VNs are a 50-100 hour time investment into a complete product.

>>283492795
You just have to find something you like. Little Busters is popular but it's not even on my personal top 10.

>>283495363
>they have non existent protagonists
Spotted the zoomer who has never read any acclaimed VN.

>>283493974
Gacha evolved from gambling addicted mobile gamers. It has nothing to do with VNs.

>>283496834
I feel like I should also start with a shorter one. Especially since I know I won't feel like spending the time on a long one at the moment.

>>283496897
>acclaimed VN
Oxymoron

>>283497031
cope.

>>283496980
What genres do you like? There are plenty of shortge to choose from.

>>283497031
You will always be a newfag, zoomer. Now go back to your shonen threads and let the adults talk.

>>283497218
I don't like shounen since they have shitty stories and characters. Same reasons why I don't like VNs

>>283497259
Yeah I'm sure someone who has never read a VN knows all about VNs. Why do you newfags even enter our discussions.

>>283490617
But hey, at least you got to hear what GARcher would have sounded like if he got any ass in Fate.

>>283480319 (OP)
we literally just concluded a two cours full adaptation of Summer Pockets by Key, with almost every route getting some justice in the adaptation, and a proper "true" route after story-esque final 8 episodes...

>>283497523
You should be grateful I'm talking about VNs at all since no one else even cares enough to do that

>>283488902
steinsgate, ef, summer pockets, all the ufotable fate adaptations, yosuga no sora was a faithful adaptation, recently there was that passione one Nukitashi, school days and KNGE are good old ones, amagami ss adaptation was decent enough,

>>283488902
Nukitashi was...okay. Its arguably not an adaptation and more fanservice for people who wanted to see more of a really, really dis-serviced character in the vn.

>>283495363
>>283497259
all time bait
I almost got mad

Mitcher on /a/!

>>283496932
no, it evolved from gambling addicted arcade and hobby shop machine attendees and collectors. the mobile gamer aspect is a new evolution of current-day gacha. it is not wrong to say that a significant portion of development that went into visual novels have now gone into storytelling elements of new mobile gacha apps though.

>>283497709
>Release some garbage censored porn adaptation
>Destroy the characters
>Make zoomers believe even harder eroge is just retarded porn and there are no good stories
kek they actually managed to kill VNs even harder when you think about it

>>283497996
Qruppo saved eroge thoughever. They'll save it again with Hentai Prison 2.

>>283480319 (OP)
I've never actually read Mikan's VN. Is it still worth it to read it today?

>>283495752
This one would work well since most of the plot is contained within the common route and the individual routes are developments that occur from there, or it could be a Lena route adaption but no sane person would consider it.

>>283498190
I enjoyed it a lot 12 years ago

>>283498190
>>283498612
>tfw Mikan is so ancient that the VAs are now grannys
I want to go back

>>283497659
Steins;Gate is an average adaptation of a mediocre vn.

>>283499837
sure but it represented the storyline well enough and became a well-regarded anime either way.

Summer Pockets Shiki route?

>>283500336
a lot of the "polish" if you can call it that from Reflection Blue's story was incorporated into the anime, but no shiki.

>>283500376
>>283500336
well there's shiki but no route for her.

>>283498190
it's all cuckshit where a random side character fucks all the girls for some reason, and the main heroine ends married and pregnant by a random ntrchad
if you like that, sure

>>283495752
They would skip the murasame route for sure. Meaning I wouldn't watch it.

>>283488748
I chuckled

>>283489047
Chaos;Head, even though we got this cool song
https://youtu.be/TUmm1QjLC5U?si=XRHe27hQtOqRGmQE

>>283501017
It did introduce me to ther series though.

>>283489108
Smee's 20th anniversary announcement my brother.
It revealed to me in a dream.

>>283491313
Sorry anon, Gnosia isn't a VN. vndb said so. Blazblud is though.

>>283501279
Hags that are actually older than me? Sign me up

>>283495363
there are a lot of VNs where the MC carries

>>283495752
In retrospect, this might be genuinely one of my favorite VNs. It's not particularly groundbreaking in any way but it just flows well and is relaxing in a nice way. Also definitely my favorite Yuzuge. I have read better stories, but very few better moege.
Does anybody know what the town of Hoori is modelled after? I genuinely kinda want to visit such a place if I ever visit Japan. It looks comfy.

>>283480319 (OP)
Probably a combination of VNs losing popularity in general and the format being hard to adapt into an anime, or even a manga frankly.
VNs losing popularity is a bunch of factors, but I kinda suspect it has to do with their was association with sex in a world that dislikes explicit eroticism, them being confined to PC during the Dark Ages of PC Gaming, and VNs not being easy to promote through cross-media collaboration (through adaptation to manga and anime) when that's like 50% of how Japan does advertising. All these kinda kept VNs as niche and kept them from gaining enough popularity to stay in the limelight when the world changed.
But maybe I'm misunderstanding stuff since I'm not privy to what troubles Japanese VN developers. Maybe their problems are actually completely different.

>>283498190
Yeah its quite nice and the girls are all very cute.
>>283480319 (OP)
I love Mikan so much

>>283489531
>Or was he an orphaned manwhore?
its this one, i dont find him edgy, just very sad and unloved, mikan helps him a lot change that.
Him breaking down hard on the ending she is kidnapped is very sad.

>>283501459
He doesn't carry hard enough
But C;H has a horrible fucking cast outside of him and Rimi true

>>283498190
No.
I'm still mad about Kotarou.

>>283494050
CyGames adaptions are pretty good.

>>283487976
>/vn/
>>>/vg/545079698
Imagine being stuck with threads this bad all the time. I almost feel bad for them desu

>>283503199
>forgot I had my volume set to max

>>283480319 (OP)
I want to read good VNs with cute lolis
Spoonfeed me your best (translated), niche ones

>>283503861
You're contributing factor too, fuckface

95% of visual novels are porn

literally there's no point

>>283504034
Did you just call him a fucking fuckface?

Kino Prison adaptation when?
Nukikino singlehandedly got me back into reading VNs

>>283498190
MC is really unlikable at times because he's huge cynical asshole. He doesn't give a fuck about romance at all so out of the two routes one has one of the two heroines ending up with another guy and starting family with him during her own route.

That and the MC really made me not like the VN. it fucking sucks because I like everyone else in the cast but the MC just ruins it for me

>>283504616
i like him, love a MC that isnt just a blank face self insert.
Also he essentially fall in love with his dogs.

>>283488902
have you never heard of To Heart? it literally kickstarted the moe genre

>>283504676
>self insert.
Anyone who uses that term on /a/ is a fucking retard

>>283500376
The anime was horrible by cutting the other characters screen time and giving Shiroha new scenes

>>283504605
It might actually happen desu. I just hope they make their fourth game first

>>283501562
Routes quality vary but yeah, it's just a really relaxing time reading it. Incredibly relaxing OST too.

>>283487976
One of /vn/s biggest issue demographics clash too much. Imagine cramming One Piece fags into a single thread with PreCure fags and calling it the /anime/ general thread.
>>283483955
I think Katawa Shoujo is more of the reason. Back then LNs weren’t really allowed either but just weren’t popular enough for anyone to care on 4chan. I remember making The Zeroth Maria LN threads when it was first translated and they’d be deleted. By the time it was fully finished mods seemed to stopped caring.

Karen

>>283500331
>represented the storyline enough
It cut all the side routes and went straight through the true end. Granted, SciADV side routes are mostly mediocre.
Usually the ones that are bad adaptions is due to the side routes being better than the True Ending.
Atri had a chance to be good since it's mostly a straight line but they had to cut a massive chunk of the VN due to the 13 episodes.

>Won all battles of wits
>Never got the result he truly wanted, at best achieved "Winner: No One"
He really was cursed by the monkey paw.

>>283508182
hfk

>>283501389
we need more vns with hags