Thread 283588850

How do we feel about barbie doll nudity in anime?

>>283588850 (OP)
I don't care because I like flatties

>>283588850 (OP)
slightly sad but better than most censorship alternatives like black suits or pixelation. Hopefully fixed in blu-ray editions

>>283588850 (OP)
Embarrassing.

I like it more than seeing nipples. No i don't care if you consider it "censorship"

It tells me the director lacks the creativity to use a foreground object or character to cover.

>>283588850 (OP)
what is the purpose of this censorship in particular? she takes off her shirt revealing nude upper body and tits making this scene obviously sexual, so why remove the nipples? absolute retardation.

>>283588850 (OP)
I hate it, I'd rather boobs be completely absent than have that.

It tells me the director isn't a creatively bankrupt hack that uses foreground objects or characters as censorship.

>>283588850 (OP)
I hate it and I think it looks stupid. It'd be better if for nipples they just put a simple oval to show them instead of drawing a detailed nipple.

I have a sexual fantasy about fictional null women suddenly acquiring the naughty bits through exposure to lewd and real things. The Barbie movie kind of did it. Pleasantville kind of did it. It's very silly but it lines up with my corruption fetish.
I think it's weird to do it in anime anyway.

>>283588850 (OP)
It's better than excessive or unrealistic other censoring methods.

>>283588850 (OP)
Body horror by a nipple-hating and denying society

>>283588850 (OP)
It's bad. Horrible. Be creative and do some foreground object censorship, steam is acceptable too but no random beams of light. Barbie anatomy completely strips the fun of imagining what's behind. You know that tinge of disappointment you feel when barely anything is covering the titty and you think, "the nipple can't actually be hiding anywhere on this titty"? Well this is somehow even worse by abandoning the facade wholesale.

>>283588850 (OP)
it makes no sense that this is okay but adding a tiny nipple makes it not okay.

>>283588850 (OP)
Mosaic censorship, while also bad, would be more honest and less embarrassing.

>>283589001
Its a compromise where they can keep the scene intact and still have that degree of sexual humor but without getting labled as outright porn and being unfit for anything but late night television. If they wanted their show to go on streaming and survive, this was what they needed to do, or axe everything of a sexual nature in the first place.

>>283589167
Did you grow up in a strictly religious household? Under an overbearing mother, older sisters, perhaps... suffocated by feminist dogma; "longhoused." absentee father—nay, a father in exile—mother and sisters laying into you for being male, making you feel ashamed of your own sexuality? Am I getting close?

>>283589614
Then they should axe it or change it. I'm serious. The barbie doll shit is not sexy in the slightest. It makes me want to sink into the ground out of pure embarrassment. I genuinely almost walked out of the theater when watching CSM.

>dude you can't show nipples on streaming services bro
Why do censorshipniggers just bald faced lie? Who the fuck would be stupid enough to even entertain this idea, let alone fall for it? I watched rome in the fucking 00s

>>283588850 (OP)
I would take light beams or convenient censoring over barbie doll anatomy

>>283589756
Yeah, Netflix anime was just fine with nudity the last time I checked. Devilman Crybaby and Cyberpunk: Edgerunners had both, and also literal semen, lots of it. This is probably the culmination of Japanese feminist watchdogs bitching at the animation studios for years on end about sexualizing women.

>>283588850 (OP)
>Female nipple bad
>Male ass good

I thought society was getting more open and progressive.

>>283589884
It's a lot of different sources of pressure, and japanese people being neurotically conflict-avoidant. Bilibili and netflix ask them to tone it down and they do.

I don't think censorship instantly makes a show unwatchable. However the coping faggots trying to explain it away are fucking pathetic. Just be real for once in your faggot life.

>>283589995
The Blackrock executive will lie in front of you as they push their Wine sipping, Pitbull mommy agenda.

There are ecchi artists who have bad experiences with nipples, you should respect their creative decision.

>>283588850 (OP)
Anime is dead.

>>283590185
I despise this huge nigger for creating the vegetabls herbivorous archetype. Truly a menace to the point he lowers societies birth rate all around asia and perhaps parts of the west too. What a huge faggot.

>>283589466
>>283589593
This so much. Either go full nude or at least be creative with the censorship.

>>283590185
I know this is a joke but no, art can and should be criticized.

>>283588850 (OP)
Terrible.
>>283588875
It won't be because the medium is too western influenced now.
For every censored adaptation for the last 5 years, maybe 1/30 to maybe 1/10, at best, get uncensored on the BDs.

>>283588875
Do you actually think it's better or are you just saying that to cope? If it's censored at least you know the real thing is underneath. This barbie shit just looks inhuman.

>>283590185
It's not really ecchi without nipples, though. I also couldn't care less about some fag's personal hangups or trauma over something so innocuous, and it does not need to be thrust unto the viewers either.
Especially not that fucking grifter loser that's been sitting idly by, concern trolling about censorship, while westoids continue to rape his country's media. Useless fuck.

>>283590085
It does for me, since I want my adaptations to be faithful, but to each their own I guess. I pray at least that people like you pirate it, though consoomers enable this enshittification of the medium.
>However the coping faggots trying to explain it away are fucking pathetic. Just be real for once in your faggot life.
Exactly. I hate these retards especially, since you can tell they're just making excuses to themselves, even before excusing it in front of all of us.
There aren't many things out there that are more pathetic than someone desperately convincing themselves they aren't eating shit.

>>283590035
They should add some large black boxes or other obviously cheap methods to censor those versions instead.

>>283588850 (OP)
I hate it, because I can't jack off to it. Much rather have cleverly placed mist or something rather than this bullshit. At least with mist/fog I can play with my imagination. This is just straight up stupid.

>>283590529
It honestly seems like anime is getting more sexual, not less.
Nipples or not it's become like a part of a seasonal lineup to have at least one televised softcore porn series for the past few years.
Ecchi has progressed from being a fairly regular romcom or action series that has some fanservice from time to time to being series where the characters fucking is a regular event and a core of the story's gimmick.
It wasn't that long ago that something like DxD was as explicit as something might get on a televised anime but it's relatively tame compared to stuff like Ishuzoku Reviewers or Redo of Healer.

>>283588850 (OP)
it makes it easier to edit that censor steam etc

>>283588850 (OP)
I think if you don't want to or can't show nudity then you shouldn't show it like this. Do something to dance around it. Use better framing perspective, have objects to act as a natural censor bar. When you do this split the middle bullshit it just looks wrong. This is just lazy. The human brain is funny in that it will fill the details in by itself but when you do barbie anatomy it's just uncanny valley.

>>283588850 (OP)
Works perfectly for a series like Ranma which is about comedy, not fanservice

>>283588850 (OP)
MODS? MODS!

>>283588850 (OP)
I don't care, I'm too old to worry about nudity in animated shows that are aimed at children anyways.

>>283588850 (OP)
Why not just shoot it in a way you don't have to show anything? like you could just do a headshot here or put something in front of her.

>>283589963
Butts in general are exposed pretty often. It's usually the nipples and the groin area that gets censored.

>>283589817
I demand the sauce immediately. I need it now.

>>283591768
That's Ishuzoku Reviewers and the character has a giant dick.

>>283591747
You don´t get the butthole itself though, its basically anything that isn´t covered by a decent bikini swimsuit it´s fair game rules.

>>283591798
and a vagene

>>283591369
The moment it becomes softcore porn is the moment it stops being ecchi IMO. And I mean, what are you even supposed to do when adapting "My Harem Sucks My Dick And Gets OP As Fuck From My Cum", besides being faithful to the source material? There's no way you turn something with that title into a family friendly anime unless you're completely taking the piss and flipping off the original creator, right to his face.
Normal ecchi series are getting butchered left, right and center so that 1, *maybe* 2 smut series live each year. It's an extremely bad trade offer and I'm tired of it.

>>283588850 (OP)
Fine as a TV airing option I guess, not like any of them are great, but would it have been so hard for them to add some pink dots in the BDs? TV censorship is one thing but at least there used to be something to look forward to.

buy the blurays

>>283591969
Blurays don't show anything and haven't for years newfagbro.

>>283589659
I don't think any of Ranma's nude scenes are meant to be sexy.

>>283592031
You need to watch more Blu Rays.

>>283591969
>Expecting that from a mainstream show like Ranma.

>>283592093
Irony.

>>283592073
Cute projection, but one of, if not the only one IIRC, in the last 5 years to do so was Ayakashi Triangle, and not completely either.
Try again.

>>283588850 (OP)
i love nippleless girls

>>283592073
>>283592124
Damn >>283592129 right on time. I forgot how retarded this was.

>>283592031
Sometimes BD is MORE censored than tv version.

>>283592038
The original had nipples though, so either way it was the author´s intent, you could argue the author wanted the audience to enjoy seeing the naked girls or just wanted to be true to the anatomy doing the scenes, either way it feels unnatural even as a necesary sacrifice for wider audience and focus on the comedy.

>>283591747
>It's usually the nipples
Which I always found funny because you can show like the other 98 percent of the boob but as soon as a nipple is involved that's the line.

>>283592343
That's because it's the only objective line in the sand you can draw. Genitals and buttholes are the same.

>>283592183
Knowing Cross Ange that's probably a tongue-in-cheek joke.

Bottom point is that it angers me that this is a measure needed to be taken, ripping clothes is part of the comedy so its common sense the body would show as result, it can be both fun and sexy.

>>283588850 (OP)
In the case of the Ranma reboot. There's no excuse for it on Netflix of all places. When the whole point of it was you can get away with shit you couldn't on broadcast TV.

>>283592152
You can't show non Barbie doll uncensored pussy in Japan even on Blu Rays & that's the only scene that's like that.

>>283592452
>>283588850 (OP)
Imagine censoring out the nudity in THE Ecchi series that practically pioneered the entire genre… What’s next, a Gundam without mechs? A Magical Girl anime without henshins?

>>283592537
The rest of the thighs and ass isn't pussy though. I swear, you fags just look for any and all excuses. It's vomit inducing watching someone trip over themselves doing that.

>>283592251
The author didn't make the anime dumbass. Rumiko only ever uses casual nudity for comedy.

>>283588850 (OP)
I will never understand what kind of mental deficiency American christcucks have that compels them to force this retardation on the rest of the world where showing a nipple is completely unacceptable but someone can be violently tortured, dismembered, disemboweled, or exploded into a puddle of blood and viscera on tv and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>283592038
Well, my bad, because some of my earliest gaps were definitely to compilations of her

>>283592452
Ranma is airing on TV in Japan retard.

>>283592595
Why are you complaining about a single scene? The rest of the series doesn't look like this.

>>283588850 (OP)
why are people so scared of nipples but over the top gore is completely accepted?

>>283592741
Are these people in the room with you right now?

>>283591768
You're in for peak.

>>283591959
Nice. Are there blurays for season 1? Curious if they do anything different.

>>283592705
It was to reinforce a point and I was right, keep licking that boot though, 'tard.

>>283592822
Right about what?

>>283592762
yeah they're called americans

>>283592867
Damn, the shoe polish your ingesting on the regular seems to be affecting your short term memory, too.

Don't give girls dysmorphia. Nipples are natural, there's nothing wrong with them. Culture needs to get over the mind games burdened them by religious lunatics.

>>283592791
There are and no not really, still the same barbie doll stuff

>>283593004
Why do we even try anymore...

>>283592973
The current chimpouts over fanservice in anime and manga do not come from religious people.

>>283592124
You forgot Mahaoko?

I wish I had the job of going to Japan and telling japs they're not allowed to have nipples in their cartoons. How do I get said job?

>>283593071
then who? I've only seen religious people

>>283592616
The excessive censorship of the human body these days is effectively normalizing the over-sexualization of the human body in my opinion, and ruining any chance of the youth developing a normal association with sexuality. This shit is what leads to extreme fetishes and porn addiction, ironically

>>283593165
MahoAko is one of the non-ecchi smut series we get once or twice a year and it already showed nudity before its BD. Why even bring it up in this context?

>>283592616
these are the people who get their kids genitals cut so that they remain pure , they can't be reasoned with

>>283589614
they don't censor nipples in japanese porn, therefore they do not view them as pornographic.

>>283593171
Ah yes, we all know that large forums like MAL and Reddit are notorious Christian hotspots, especially the latter. Japan too, their large (mostly atheist) populace is also well known for their devout Christian belief, and their handwringing over this topic.

>>283593166
Be a republican

>>283593344
and who do you think is regulating and enforcing the censorship?

>>283593509
Ah why yes, that'd be the staunch Christian corporations like Netflix, Sony, etc., famous for their outspoken Christian behavior.
Can you fags at least get a new scapegoat, or ideally just realize you fell for a meme pushed by faggots decades ago?

Some series don't give them a choice

>>283593573
Normalfaggot tourists aren't people, but I get what you mean bro.

>>283588850 (OP)
about the same as vaginas not being drawn even on ecchi anime
it's not optimal but is far from the worse

>>283593573
>>283593597
Why do you wanna look at an underage minor’s naked body anons?

Look how mad that got it.

>>283593722
because anime usted to be absolutely careless about this kind of thing (erotismo in general)
drop the larp,moralfag

>>283593800
I think it's funny how the implication is that normalfaggots are fine looking at naked kids otherwise.
Quite the hill to die on, I admit.

>>283593722
Cuz it's fucking HOT

>>283593205
Mahaoko was visually censored on every tv station except AT-X.

>>283593949
Which doesn't prove me wrong at all. It had an uncensored airing before BDs released. So
>MahoAko
Is the only thing you can bring up. I brought up Ayakashi Triangle, which still shat the bed where it mattered. Sooo... 2, out of dozens of series in the last couple years alone, that didn't get completely raped.
Amazing.

>>283593722
cocky go boing boing

>>283593558
>>283593344
>>283593071
ok christcuck go blow the pope or whatever you closeted fags do when you're not jerking off to tranny porn on your burner account. 90% of Japan's social issues were caused by american christians forcing their values on an occupied country. The pixelated bush is america's fault. >>283593193 is 100% correct, the prudish repression forced by christians created unhealthy attitudes towards sex and nudity in an entire nation which is then exporting its culture to the world. it's christians who made sex so shameful that people can't just have a normal healthy relationship with it, they either become repressed prudes or degenerate gooners with no inbetween.

>>283588966
>>283589817
Or using Maeda-kun's photo

>>283594133
>absolute autistic neckbeard meltdown
You love to see it. Thanks for confirming you got duped into believing the meme by the people actually doing this shit.

>>283594133
nothing wrong with gooning

>>283594187
>nothing wrong with gooning
If it’s not to minors, relatives, or animals sure.

>>283594301
i goon to my underage giraffe sister

>>283594133
>>283594301
girls fucking animals and monsters is hot as fuck

>>283593558
ah yes it's the companies motivated by nothing and are doing it without reason. that truly is the reason why there is censorship

>>283594338
Sir, that drawing is 8 years old. 2 if you consider the creation date of digital ink to digital paper. You sick fuck.

>>283594390
Ah yes, corporations never pushed or aligned with any social movement before, as we all know from the last 10 years. They're only motivated by an agenda when it's Christianity, never for anything else!!!11!!11!!!!
Try again.

>>283594179
and who would that be?

>>283594419
Definitely not the afterimage of jack thompson or whoever it is you're obsessed with.

>>283594101
>It had an uncensored airing before BDs released.
Sure, if you ignore the audio censorship.
>> I brought up Ayakashi Triangle, which still shat the bed where it mattered
Except it didn't, outside of that one scene where they didn't want to use Barbie doll anatomy, the Blu Rays are completely uncensored.

>>283594458
>>283594416
just say it instead of beating around the bush so we can call you a /pol/tard faggot and move on

>>283594511
>n-no it didn't
It did. If it's not as uncensored as the source material, it failed. It obscured more than the TV airing in that scene, that is an objective fail for BDs.
BDs are a joke and telling people to wait for them is irresponsible, retarded and honestly even deceitful. They do nothing 99/100 times.

>>283594526
i don't think you're allowed to say that word libtard-san

>>283594416
yep companies are randomly censoring that makes sense! religion has never impacted social movements, influenced culture or media ever before that's unheard of. especially now with the massive growth of popularity that anime and manga has internationally there's just no way religion would have any impact on the censorship that's occurring. companies are simply doing it on a whim for no real reason. christianity isn't the only religion but that might be a hard concept to grasp

>>283594526
>/pol/ out of nowhere
I'd say that fits you, with this off-topic crying over Christianity. You're definitely an election tourist and don't know that euphoric troons used to get clowned on relentlessly here.
I get finding out that you got memed into sperging out over Christians embarrassed you, but don't take it out on the rest of us. Please, by all means though, explain to me how Netflix, Sony, etc. are actually all just Christian psyops to censor anime and manga.
They can't simultaneously be backwards hicks in BFE but also an all encompassing shadow cabal.

>>283594551
And how exactly would you uncensor this scene?

>>283594596
>can only strawman
So close, but no cigar there retard bro. There's definitely a lot more, and way more powerful social movements right now that influence western media and its companies. I'm sure you can take a guess at at least one one really, really popular one that you're not allowed to criticize outside of spaces like this.
And, shocker, they make up most of the staff at said media companies in the west.

>>283594369
nigga

>>283594632
I already said it could have showed the rest of the thighs and ass, retardbro. The fact they change a sticker censor into a shadow that obscures 90% of the frame is laughably bad.

>>283588948
>if you consider it censorship
It is censorship you delusional fuckwit. You humans come with nipples.

>>283593573
In this context it's the lesser of two evils. Cover them behind soap bubbles or steam and your brain fills in the missing gaps. Show them with Barbie tits and it's just clear how bad it looks. I don't know if it's part of pareidolia but it's funny how the mind works.

>>283594603
I guarantee you ive been here longer than you, but that's irrelevant. what is relevant is your complete refusal or more likely inability to comprehend that religious values and movements shape culture at a much deeper level than the Netflix CEO being a born again christian and those cultural values in turn go on to influence pro-censorship legislation, cultural norms, attitudes towards sex, and the sociopolitical movements that grow in response to or as a consequence of those things. your analysis is as shallow as it is retarded

>>283594777
>your analysis is as shallow as it is retarded
The irony of writing all that assmad babble and then wrapping it up with this while basically screeching "REEEEEEEE CHRISTIANS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT CENSOR THINGS AND ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CENSORSHIP, NO ONE ELSE" is not lost on me, retardfag.
Keep it up, especially the dodging and handwaving.

I miss when anime censorship was only of woke shit like homos and troons…

>>283588850 (OP)
can be funny.

>>283588850 (OP)
Better than no fanservice, worse than underwear

>>283594871
I'd even take a tenchi toonami towel.

>>283594645
>way more other reasons trust me
>hasn't named one
religion is at the core for the motivation of these changes and I have yet to see anything that proves otherwise

>>283594902
moral virtue signaling and downward purity spirals are not the sole purview of religion, retard anon.

>>283594815
The people in these threads always seem to ignore all the anime in the past, even pre-2000, that had no nudity in them. I can't think of any specific example of it either but I'm sure I've seen some pre-2000 anime that had the barbie doll nudity like in the OP.

>>283592400
I was thinking about this after watching a clip from some shitty talk show where some whore guest came on wearing nipple pasties. apparently that's ok for tv now, but is the line really right before you can see areola? I don't think it is. imagine that you kept shrinking the size of the nipple covers until they was the exact size of her nipples. I think that would be over the line for most networks even with 0% nipple visible. you could also apply this to steam censors in anime. you can't just fog up exactly the nipple and nowhere else, there has to be some degree of spill over. that means that the line of what's acceptable is actually more than 100% nipple size.

>>283594955
it's the main one for most people

>Unironically blaming the Christians for Ranma censorship
Is this anon retarded? At least in the case of Ranma, they would sooner BAN that anime just based on it’s premise alone and consider it part of the tranny grooming agenda then ever attempt to salvage it with any type of censorship. And if they DID try to censor it, best believe it would be around its entire premise itself rather than just mere nudity. Say goodbye to girltype Ranma and hello to his “twin sister,” Ranma’s no longer cursed with a tranny spell but just found his long lost twin who lives underwater or something.

Point being you can’t blame the Christfags for this one, especially since they’re also censoring out not just the nudity but even any dialogue that could be considered “homophobic or transphobic.”

>>283592616
it has nothing to do with american christians. actual bible thumpers would think ranma is an allegory for transgenders and ban the entire thing, not just visible nipples. the push to censor nudity has always been from pta karens who resent their sons having a sex drive.

>>283594955
>>283594800

>>283594777
if you think a company that loudly proclaims its support for gay pride month is beholden to religious fundamentalists in any way you are completely out of touch.

>>283594800
just because you're too stupid to understand words or think beyond the surface level commentary spoonfed to you be some retard youtuber doesn't mean I'm wrong. idk why you're too much of a pussy to own your opinion and just say le woke jews are censoring my titties but it's pretty pathetic.
By the way have you considered that the fucked up attitudes to sex created by puritanism and religious repression are equally responsible for the prudes as they are for the gooners, and that the gooners themselves being so schizoid about women's bodies that they can't see a pair of nice tits without instantly getting a throbbing 4 and a half inch erection and forgetting the woman they're attached to is a human being is also a major factor in creating the legendary pendulum swing in the opposite direction?
It doesn't come from nowhere.

>>283595051
I'm still waiting to hear an explanation from these retards about how Netflix is somehow a Christian company, or that Japan with its mostly atheist populace is somehow being collectively brainwashed by this Christian boogeyman cabal.
>Point being you can’t blame the Christfags for this one, especially since they’re also censoring out not just the nudity but even any dialogue that could be considered “homophobic or transphobic.”
Yep.
>>283595186
No, don't you know? "Christian /pol/fags" are known for their unconditional defense and protection of faggots and trannies, especially in media.
Wait...

>>283595230
>wordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswords
Not reading all that. Come back when you can stop shitting in your diaper about religion, it's not religious people spearheading any of the censorship of Japanese media.

>>283588850 (OP)
I prefer random light beams over this

>>283595235
Would a Christian even be watching Ranma to want to localize it? Serious question, because if they couldn’t even handle Pokémon or Harry Potter back in the day I’m pretty sure Ranma would be considered ultimate next-level Satanic Panic for Christians.

The premise of the franchise centering around a spell (literal witchcraft Chinese voodoo) that gives you a sex change? C’mon now…

>>283595337
Absolutely not.
"Muh Christians" was always a red herring so the real culprits could keep raping series. They want you to ignore the olympic gold medalist level of mental gymnastics to rationalize the line of "thought" here, just keep repeating "Muh Christians" like the automaton they want you to be.

>>283595256
then what is it? all you've said is its not religion but never elaborate what it is

legal on tv

>>283595373
Like I said retardbro, it's certainly not whatever activist's afterimage you're obsessed with. Other anons in the chain have already elucidated at least one, though.
>I'm still waiting to hear an explanation from these retards about how Netflix is somehow a Christian company, or that Japan with its mostly atheist populace is somehow being collectively brainwashed by this Christian boogeyman cabal.
Still waiting. Elaborate?

>>283595373
>then what is it? all you've said is its not religion but never elaborate what it is
Don’t play dumb now, we know it’s you lefty commies censoring anything and everything that doesn’t conform to your equity agenda.

Fucking Christian ran crunchyroll strikes again...

>>283588850 (OP)
I think ranma is built for BBC

Reminder that this new retardation about older men dating 18~25 year old being pedos is because of americans too

>>283595515
don't blame americans blame progressives

>>283595337
>MULTIPLE trannies, not even just the title character
>Gay implications
>nudity
>raunchy sexual humor
>polygamy/harems
>Chinese Voodoo Witchcraft
>LITERAL voodoo with Gosunkugi
Pretty sure Ranma would be THE anime/manga conservative /pol/fags would think of when they point the finger and go on about the dangers of “tranime.”

>>283595399
Aren't they also eluding to... religion? seems like you don't have an actual rebuttable if you can't outright say it.
>>283595426
if you think censorship is limited to "lefty commies" you are mistaken

>>283595548
AMERICAN progressives

>>283595556
Absolutely nowhere, but it's plain to see you're on the backfoot and just grasping at straws now when multiple anons called you out on your bullshit.
Next?

>>283595556
>if you think censorship is limited to "lefty commies" you are mistaken
They both censor whatever goes against their own agendas and worldviews, for commies it’s anything that promotes inequality and exploitation, for christcucks it’s anything that promotes atheism, LGBTQ, pro-choice, and makes a mockery of their and uses their sacred imagery in vain or some shit (Christians with Crucifix imagery, Muslims with Mohammed’s image)

>>283595186
>>283595059
>>283595051
>>283595256
here I'll write it in greentext because clearly you guys need it spoonfed to you
>puritanism and christian fundamentalism demonizes sex and nudity
>this is the majority religion in america
>this influences culture norms and attitudes around sex in this country
>nudity and sex are seen as taboo
>ww2
>america becomes the dominant economic and cultural power on earth for the last 80 years
>(at this time america also occupies japan and forces censorship laws and american values on them, some of which stick to this day)
>actual christian belief declines but the cultural attitudes towards sex which are now norms remain
>censorship legislation remains
>taboos remain
>even non-christians now have been raised in a culture with an unhealthy relationship to sex and adopt the same
>they either adopt or react against it but the unhealthy attitude remains
>these values are exported to the world by america's cultural and economic power and take root in other places
>meanwhile in Japan, an animator wants to draw ranmas tits but can't put nipples because americans (whose culture was influenced by puritanism to see sex as taboo) will sperg out, and they won't be able to sell their show in a massive market or anywhere else influenced by america to be equally as prudish

>tranny schizos start losing
>bbc posting begins
makes you think

>>283595610
did you mean to reply to the guy angry about people blaming religion and who hasn't given a single alternative to what it could be

I am not reading any of that mentally ill wall. Find a new boogeyman, bro, it's been tired even since the 90s when you fags saw it as an opportunity to dogpile and misdirect your anger.

>>283595704
Nope, not at all ESLbro. I already even addressed one, and you just sperged out after handwaving again to continue this misdirected polemic.
Keep it up, as we all know the last 30-40 years of pissing in your pants over Christians really saved video games and anime dude. Thank you for your service!

>>283595707
right here nigger >>283595482

>>283595746
That's not the sound of you opening the pill bottle.

>>283595709
>BRO EXPLAIN WHY NETFLIX IS CHRISTIAN
>explains
>nah i aint reading that
you're retarded and illiterate

Uh oh, someone's miffed.

>>283595774
that's not the sound of your rope slack tightening as you plunge into the abyss

>>283595670
>meanwhile in Japan, an animator wants to draw ranmas tits
Any proof of this? With how many anime apparently suffering from this (even though you still get anime with nudity even if it's just for blurays) surely there should be a ton of interviews of Japanese animators and other staff members lamenting that they're being forced to not draw nipples. The issue with this logic is that it's easy to just say Japan can do no wrong and it's all the US' fault, which is complete horseshit. Especially since your timeline indicates this has been a thing since WWII ended, and yet all the anime with nudity people post all the time as the "good old days" is post-WWII. Do you think religious conservatism with regards to sex and nudity is somehow stricter now than in the past?

>>283596171
That's something these retards don't want to admit. The current scourge of censorship, that is especially bad since 2020, is because Japan WANTS to do this. They are more eager than ever to please the west.
A lot of faggots forget that the memedemic brought in a metric fuckton of tourists into these spaces, and you can bet your ass Japan noticed this. All these tourists of course were the typical faggots that hated anime/manga, but had nothing better to do in lockdown, so would watch the most sterile, FOTM slop and then spend all day sperging out towards any other series that weren't like the most popular shounen at the time.
They make up most of the current censorship apologists we see. The world is also more atheistic than ever, yet *somehow* this is a "IT'S CHRISTIANS!!11!!" issue. Like I said, these retards had their anger misdirected at Christians for decades, and they have fuck-all to show for it.
Everything is gayer and more censored than ever, despite all this "Christian influence". Make it make fucking sense.

>>283596333
>despite all this supposed* "Christian influence"

the thread derailed but at least people here watch anime and are arguing about something relevant, and is not just twitter drama whores voting self insert anime girls so they feel vindicated

>>283595670
>(at this time america also occupies japan and forces censorship laws and american values on them, some of which stick to this day)
Explain then why the OG Ranma anime was able to be out with nipples on full display?

>>283595815
That's not the sound of silence

>>283594972
>ok to show 99% of boob
>but not ok to show the part of the boob designed for a non-sexual function that is the entire reason for the boob's existance (nipple for feeding baby)
Also male nipples are not subject to censorship despite being identical to female nipples. Some sumo wrestlers literally have fatter tits than women and get to let it all hang out (and before you say it's because they aren't sexy, there is tons of sumo pr0n out there so somebody is definitely horny for them)

>>283595636
>anything that promotes atheism, LGBTQ, pro-choice, and makes a mockery of their and uses their sacred imagery in vain
name 5 times any of this was censored in the last decade

>>283595670
explain why female nudity has become even more taboo but homosex and troons have become open season

>>283589963
funny to me that ass is rarely the subject of censorship when it's the biggest turn on to people.

The typical object/mist blocking is annoying like the animator is wagging his finger at you for looking, especially considering it is often actually fully drawn then covered up.
Barbie mode is sad, but at least it isn't smug.

>>283588850 (OP)
Fucking normies and tourists, why making animu aimed to them

>>283597320
In the US it does get censored. If more western companies get seats at the production companies of anime it could become censored in Japan too. It depends if the censorship in Japan is actually Japan's fault or if it's secretly the west's fault which I guess some other anons are currently debating.

>>283596880
>Explain then why the OG Ranma anime was able to be out with nipples on full display?
Because it was made in the late 80s/early 90s when mainstream television in Japan allowed it. Even then, the later seasons only allowed Ranma to show nipples because he was technically a boy.

>>283597468
Good. Hope we actually do because it's weird and gross to have asses on sceeen indiscriminately.
Like why is a shot of a naked guy showing below the waist? Gay as fuck.

>>283597527
>he doesn't like ass
fag

>>283595059
>resent their son having a sex drive
This shit. Wine sipping, pitbull mommies are truly the enemy that should be lined up for firing squads

>>283588850 (OP)
Not a fan, but it ain't like I'm watching the Demake anyways

>>283588850 (OP)
>>283598287

>>283598287
>>283598296

>>283598287
>>283598309

>>283598296
Absolutely dogshit.

>>283598296
I want to know whose idea this was and why he thought it was a good idea. It's like he was given the choice of including nipples or covering them up and somehow made a worse decision than either of those.

>>283598321
Even Shampoo got a Barbie Doll body now despite the fact that they could easily just use her hair to censor her boobs

>>283588850 (OP)
>>283598296
>>283598388
The BDs are censored as well btw

>>283598416
Anyone with a brain knew that would be the case because
>BDs almost never uncensor anything these days
>it's cuntflix funded

>>283588850 (OP)
>>283598416
It looks really fucking bad when they keep the Barbie Doll shit during Ranma's extended nude bath scenes

>>283598416
Then what is the point to buy them ?

>>283588850 (OP)
Cringe

>>283598464
Agreed, at that point just add soap on Ranma's boobs or some shit instead

Tbh the way they draw nipples in anime is off putting for the most part

>>283598581
Sorry to hear about your homosexuality, I hope they find a cure one day.

>>283598296
It would've been if she just didn't get naked at all or they used classic object censorship.

>>283598446
So why did Netflix have full on nudity for Edgerunners then?

>>283588850 (OP)
very bad
t. nipple fetishist

>>283598811
Two reasons
>ultra pozzed source material
>source material isn't Japanese

>>283598811
>>283599033
Nothing to do with that.
Ranma airs on TV during the morning in Japan on Nippon TV which is broadcast not cable, lot people forget timeslot has lot to do with it, Panty and Stocking aired uncensored on one channel in Japan because it had a late night time slot and cable also Ranma aimed at a younger audience.

>>283599239
Anime censorship all just depends on what channel you air on, just like the US also just like the US cable can get away with more than broadcast while streaming can get away with everything but Ranma wasn't made just for streaming.

>>283599239
>morning TV
AT-X does care about what time shows air and has shown nipples on shows at literally every timeslot of the day. It could have easily been an avenue for nuRanma to take, but they didn't because they wanted to keep it censored. Ranma is also not aimed at a younger audience in the dishonest way you're implying, it's an ecchi series and its publication has published other, more mature series as well.
In the modern day you can basically assume with near 100% accuracy that if a show doesn't have a simultaneous AT-X airing then it's almost 100% guaranteed to be censored, even in the BDs.

>>283599311
What part depends on a channel do you understand also Ranma is aimed at a younger audience it's a shounen, it's not really an ecchi at all.

>>283599336
Japan has different standards for these things than they did in the 70's/80's where even a children's show like Time Bokan had nudity. It's just like how lot of 90's kids shows are rated TV PG in reruns in the US now when they use to be Y7.

>>283599336
What part of "they could have put it on AT-X" do you not understand, ESLtard? And "shounen" means jack shit. To Love Ru is a shounen and has the girls blowjobbing popsicles and getting cummed on by plant tentacle monsters.
Ranma IS an ecchi too, dumbass. It's so disgusting watching you anusworms snap your spines from bending over backwards to defend this shit, with the most retarded takes imaginable.

>>283599412
Ranma aimed at children and I think it's fine for a children's show not to have nudity, though it be better if they did without completely than barbie dolls.

>>283588850 (OP)
hilarous stupid, every anime like this should be banned and creators flokked

AI tools exist
just take a BD release, have the ai process it and add reasonable body parts that are missing and up it on nyaa

we literally live in the future, its just a matter of putting in the work

>>283591959
gone are the days of the blurays advertising themselves by offering uncensored scenes not suitable for television.
the western streaming services fund this shit and are on the production committees and they want no nudity, period.

>>283599479
All this for just red pink dots, anime fan mental illness.

>>283599494
its actually about power

>>283589963
>male ass funny
This is Japan, remember?

>>283599432
How does it feel being the biggest retard faggot alive?

>>283599585
Source?

>>283599613
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32766897/parentalguide/

>>283594972
I'm gonna need a link to that talk show anon

People are fine when men's chests dont have the peperonis but barbie doll chests are a no no.

>>283588850 (OP)
>censoring male nipples

>>283600426
That's weird too, but nobody's defending it so there's nothing to discuss.

>>283600426
No one cares you literal faggot. They aren't the same nor are viewed the same by society.
Go be gay somewhere else.

>>283599412
>they could have put it on AT-X"
But that channel wasn't interested or couldn't compete money wise to be in the committee. Simple as.

>>283600426
And penis are also censored. No one cares because it's not really about censorship but about gooning to drawings.

>>283588850 (OP)
Happosai is such a shit character no amount of gaslighting or muh integral part of the series will change that
Dude genuinely brings ranma down from like a solid 9/10 to a fucking 6 Everytime he appears

>>283598296
It'd be so easy for them to fix

>>283588850 (OP)
I have an imagination, so it makes no difference.

>>283588850 (OP)
I miss nipples.

>>283600739
''B-b-but, he pisses off the tourists & Westerners, therefore he is good.''/s

>>283588850 (OP)
Cursed body.

>>283598296
>>283598416
>>283598464
Souless

>>283598581
Gay

>>283599239
>>283599249
>>283599336
In this case it has more to do with the studio than the channel, MAPPA avoids female nipples for some reason

>>283600709
Have you been in the Dragon Ball threads? people always complain about Dragon Ball Daima never showing Goku's penis like the original show and GT did

>>283600739
>>283602834
Happosai is kino tho, thanks to him we got more naked female Ranma in the old anime

>>283603129
>Goku shows PP and ass in the original manga
>Goku shows PP and ass in the 80s anime
>Goku shows PP and ass in the 80s movies
>Goku shows PP and ass in merch
>Goku shows PP and ass in the 90s Path To Power movie
>Goku shows PP and ass in the Dragon Ball GT anime
>Goku shows PP and ass in the 1997 Dr.Slump anime
>Goku shows PP and ass in the DS videogame
>Goku doesn't show PP and ass in Dragon Ball Daima
Souless
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>>283603153
>thanks to him we got more naked female Ranma in the old anime
What's so great about that? It's the same repetitive shit every time. If you wanted to see naked Ranma again, you could literally just watch an earlier episode & nothing would be different.

>>283603320
Also, Gohan's penis was censored in Kai.

>nipples
>objects
>light beams
>clothes
>barbie

>>283603320
Based