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Anonymous No.283652415 [Report] >>283659829
One Piece Chapter 1165 [VIZ]
Dumping the official translation.
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1026667
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Anonymous No.283652716 [Report] >>283652903 >>283666154
>>283652509
Interesting, so the official TL implies that Kyo stole the Rocks Pirates' flagship. Fans TL just said "a ship" and the fodder questioned why he wasn't returning to the Rocks ship.

I wonder which one is accurate.
Anonymous No.283652723 [Report] >>283653578 >>283653628 >>283660343 >>283666084
Anonymous No.283652747 [Report] >>283652855 >>283653149 >>283657712 >>283658842 >>283659599 >>283662811 >>283665448
Anonymous No.283652786 [Report] >>283652994
Anonymous No.283652823 [Report] >>283653000 >>283659829 >>283662582 >>283665674
The end. Break next week.
Anonymous No.283652855 [Report] >>283660324
>>283652747
>The mass wording was real
Anonymous No.283652900 [Report] >>283653133
>>283652691
>This isn’t going to end here… Dragon…
Dragon getting court martial’d next
Anonymous No.283652903 [Report] >>283652926 >>283653084 >>283659664 >>283662012
>>283652716
Everyone else waited until OP finished dumping to post. Show some manners.
Anonymous No.283652926 [Report]
>>283652903
Nah, fuck you.
Anonymous No.283652994 [Report]
>>283652786
So they're actually going with god of fire?
Anonymous No.283653000 [Report] >>283653047 >>283653051 >>283653066 >>283653467 >>283660185
>>283652823
Do you think this is the end of the flashback? It definitely feels that way.
Anonymous No.283653047 [Report] >>283659625 >>283660185
>>283653000
no, this is Loki’s flashback about why he killed Harald so we still have more chapters about that
Anonymous No.283653051 [Report] >>283655222 >>283659625
>>283653000
Are you retarded? We haven't learned anything about Harald's death or how Loki was involved with it, the entire point of the flashback.
Anonymous No.283653066 [Report]
>>283653000
Lol
Anonymous No.283653084 [Report] >>283653107
>>283652903
Isn't that courtesy rule just for posting images? Don't see what the problem would be with text posts.
Anonymous No.283653107 [Report]
>>283653084
Shut up bitch.
Anonymous No.283653133 [Report] >>283664587
>>283652900
>One Piece turns into an episode of TNG for 10 chapters
I'm ok with this.
Anonymous No.283653149 [Report] >>283660324
>>283652747
I really need some nips to confirm of they are talking about genuine mass.
Anonymous No.283653172 [Report] >>283653415 >>283656724
This flashback should continue into next year
Anonymous No.283653281 [Report] >>283653434
>>283652481
>>283652509
Clash of three split the sky
Why are some people spreading lies that Rocks alone split the sky?
Anonymous No.283653415 [Report] >>283656346
>>283653172
Please, no. I miss Straw Hats so much and I want to see them again as soon as possible.
Anonymous No.283653434 [Report]
>>283653281
Because it splits after Roger and Garp fly away that's why
Anonymous No.283653467 [Report]
>>283653000
No? We are very likely to leave God's Valley by the next chapter ending but that's it.
Anonymous No.283653572 [Report] >>283654344
not a fan of monkey davy luffy
should have been deez
Anonymous No.283653578 [Report]
>>283652723

>participants

Were the fodder CD killed by the HK?
Anonymous No.283653628 [Report] >>283653683
>>283652723
What the hell is that gay ass translation for Garp's response, god damn it Stephen.
Anonymous No.283653683 [Report] >>283653722 >>283653782
>>283653628
wtf
Anonymous No.283653722 [Report] >>283653782
>>283653683
He straight-up says "marines" in the raw page by the way.
Anonymous No.283653758 [Report] >>283653832
Garp? Redeemed.
Anonymous No.283653782 [Report]
>>283653722
>>283653683
I'm starting to think the official translation shouldn't even be used anymore. Localizers are fucking cancer.
Anonymous No.283653829 [Report]
damn i didnt know shakky seiyu was replaced due to her death
also genzo sounded different
Anonymous No.283653832 [Report] >>283653905 >>283656358
>>283653758
dragon?
a fraud and still fucking useless
Anonymous No.283653898 [Report]
Janthony gave up, the board is our's!
Anonymous No.283653905 [Report]
>>283653832
He saved civilans though.
Anonymous No.283654027 [Report] >>283654868 >>283654891 >>283655556 >>283660187
>>283652660
>Marco's dad (presumably) is named Polo
Kek
Anonymous No.283654063 [Report] >>283655366
>>283652660
Hope that Newgate sticks around for Xebec's death.
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Anonymous No.283654090 [Report] >>283654351 >>283654465
ONE PIECE CHADS RUN THIS BOARD!
Anonymous No.283654098 [Report] >>283654236
Anonymous No.283654130 [Report] >>283654236 >>283655544
Anonymous No.283654236 [Report] >>283655606
>>283654098
>>283654130
Yep, that's Bibi's grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grandgranny alright.
Anonymous No.283654344 [Report] >>283662257
>>283653572
Since it's actually "Davy D. Jones", "Davy" is literally the only name that the D. can't stand for.
Anonymous No.283654348 [Report] >>283654477 >>283654500 >>283658381 >>283663663 >>283664633
>toei added an extra filler of Venus further dunking on Sanji by swatting him like a fly using the back of his weapon
Anonymous No.283654351 [Report] >>283654425
>>283654090
Tamasperg melty again?
Anonymous No.283654425 [Report] >>283654465
>>283654351
Wrong, I am actually the Big Fish Cock spammer
Anonymous No.283654465 [Report] >>283654533
>>283654425
>>283654090
Can you the world a favor and put a bullet in your brain already?
Anonymous No.283654477 [Report] >>283654796
>>283654348
BASED
Anonymous No.283654500 [Report] >>283654596
>>283654348
I won't fault them for it, when you have a guy like Nusjuro you want to make him do things
Anonymous No.283654533 [Report]
>>283654465
Cry more little nigger boy
Anonymous No.283654596 [Report]
>>283654500
Aye, judging from the OP it was clear that Nusjuro is going to be the animators' favorite.
Anonymous No.283654673 [Report] >>283654707
>>283652691
>It better not!
This sounds weaker than "Bring it on!"
Anonymous No.283654707 [Report]
>>283654673
Another case of Stephen's pseud-ism at work since Dragon literally says what Luffy repeats back to Spandam at Enies Lobby for burning the flag
Anonymous No.283654746 [Report] >>283654875
Omg I miss Lily so much bros
Anonymous No.283654796 [Report] >>283654920 >>283661045 >>283662725
>>283654477
>this is supposed to be the left wing of the next pirate king
luffy bros...
Anonymous No.283654868 [Report]
>>283654027
Are you retarded?
Anonymous No.283654875 [Report] >>283655036
>>283654746
Shut up Imu
Anonymous No.283654891 [Report] >>283654987
>>283654027
His name is Gram.
Anonymous No.283654916 [Report] >>283654951 >>283655025 >>283655033 >>283655227 >>283655260 >>283655343 >>283656639 >>283666320 >>283666839 >>283666887
>>283652540
insane that prime garp needed sengoku's help to take on shiki
Anonymous No.283654920 [Report]
>>283654796
Power of Love has not reached its full potential. Trust the plan.
Anonymous No.283654951 [Report]
>>283654916
>needed
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.283654987 [Report]
>>283654891
And Marco is Polo Marco aka Marco Polo
Anonymous No.283655025 [Report]
>>283654916
The Golden Lion is just THAT stong.
Anonymous No.283655033 [Report]
>>283654916
>needed
Anonymous No.283655036 [Report]
>>283654875
She was so fucking hot though
Anonymous No.283655063 [Report]
Lily….. plz comeback :(
Anonymous No.283655116 [Report]
All around me are familiar faces
Anonymous No.283655182 [Report]
>sogeking... Shoot down that grimoire
Soon...
Anonymous No.283655222 [Report]
>>283653051
>Loki fell asleep midway through telling thw story
Anonymous No.283655227 [Report] >>283655235
>>283654916
I dont think he needed anyone, its just quicker to dispatch of him by double teaming him
Anonymous No.283655235 [Report]
>>283655227
Hot.
Anonymous No.283655253 [Report] >>283666706
So much for being the man who scarred Whitebeard LOL
Anonymous No.283655260 [Report] >>283655455 >>283656758
>>283654916
Anonymous No.283655343 [Report]
>>283654916
Ngl each of them alone would mid-high diff Shiki
Anonymous No.283655366 [Report] >>283656309
>>283654063
I could see the next chapter Vulture Knights gathering at the place of the fight and then getting BTFO by Ray, Gaban, Newgate, Gram and Bogard
Anonymous No.283655418 [Report] >>283655488 >>283655689 >>283658141
>shiki destroys marineford by himself which only the war with hundreds of pirates could replicate while sengoku and garp personally fight him and try to stop it

haha they totally didn't need to team up hehehe
Anonymous No.283655447 [Report] >>283655492
It makes absolutely zero sense how Garp was able to remain in the navy after God Valley.
Anonymous No.283655455 [Report]
>>283655260
Kek I was waiting for this one
Anonymous No.283655488 [Report]
>>283655418
No one in the manga has said even once that Shiki is in the level of Roger, WB or Garp while Roger himself comapred Garo and Sengoku
Anonymous No.283655492 [Report]
>>283655447
Fuck is he going to do against Imu? Lmao
Anonymous No.283655544 [Report] >>283655892 >>283656223
>>283654130
does this proof the Imu=woman thing cause i think they're wearing a veil.
Anonymous No.283655556 [Report] >>283657712 >>283662269
>>283654027
>OP invokes Marco Polo
>Several missing episodes of Doctor Who confirmed found
Bless Goda
Anonymous No.283655599 [Report]
So at least Mosa or the Man Marked by Flames were on this flashback, right? It's absurd copium, but I'm half hoping it's Rocks still alive and possessed. I guess next chapter will confirm it.
Anonymous No.283655606 [Report]
>>283654236
Actually not, Vivi and co. are descendants of Lili's younger brother.
Anonymous No.283655689 [Report] >>283656016
>>283655418
Correct, either one could have beaten his ass handily on their own. Sengoku is just a kill stealing bitch.
Anonymous No.283655838 [Report]
bonney my beloved
Anonymous No.283655892 [Report] >>283655977
>>283655544
>Imu=woman thing cause i think they're wearing a veil
Anonymous No.283655934 [Report]
KWAB
Anonymous No.283655974 [Report] >>283655987 >>283656085
>YOU JUST NEED MORE HAKI
>YOU JUST NEED MORE HAKI TO WIN EVERY FIGHT
Anonymous No.283655977 [Report] >>283656079 >>283656293
>>283655892
King Baldwin doesn't have an effeminate slender figure
Anonymous No.283655987 [Report]
>>283655974
Yes.
Anonymous No.283656016 [Report] >>283662617
>>283655689
Garp*
Anonymous No.283656079 [Report] >>283657834
>>283655977
What is feminine about a black blob?
Anonymous No.283656085 [Report] >>283662609
>>283655974
>Punch
>Punch harder
>Punch with Haki
>Punch Harder with Haki
>Punch with more Haki.
You are here.
>Punch harder with More Haki
Anonymous No.283656223 [Report] >>283657692
>>283655544
Looks more like child
Anonymous No.283656293 [Report] >>283656735
>>283655977
Maybe hes just got that Luffy build, hes more on the twink side until he transforms
Anonymous No.283656309 [Report]
>>283655366
Was he ever confirmed to be at god valley very weird Oda has kept him in the dark
Anonymous No.283656346 [Report]
>>283653415
>t. toei
Anonymous No.283656358 [Report]
>>283653832
I do kinda like that Dragon has been recontextualized to just a guy who happened to catch a glimpse of what the WG really is. He isn't a threat to them by raw force but through what he knows and represents, much like Robin.
Anonymous No.283656390 [Report] >>283656459 >>283656631 >>283657534 >>283658484 >>283658671
Friendly reminder that Koby impregnates this every day
Anonymous No.283656459 [Report]
>>283656390
>Koby watches Charlos impregnate that
FTFY
Anonymous No.283656631 [Report] >>283658671
>>283656390
He's too good for her
Anonymous No.283656639 [Report]
>>283654916
Tbf that was a decade+ after God Valley, so Shiki had a lot of time to gain strength
Anonymous No.283656724 [Report]
>>283653172
I want what one anon said the other day:
The flashback to be over, cut back to Loki but then someone asks him "and what about the king?" an him going "ah, right" and going right back into the flashback.
Anonymous No.283656735 [Report] >>283657259
>>283656293
>hes
Anonymous No.283656758 [Report] >>283656814 >>283656848
>>283655260

Shouldn't his legs be cut off here? BAKA my head AI can't get anything right.
Anonymous No.283656814 [Report]
>>283656758
>Shouldn't his legs be cut off here?
Shiki cut his legs off when he escaped from Impel down
Anonymous No.283656848 [Report]
>>283656758
I thought he cut his legs off after he was captured to escape impel down
Anonymous No.283656943 [Report]
Nerona Imu did absolutely nothing wrong in this series
Anonymous No.283657039 [Report] >>283657275
Where my nigger barbell at?
Anonymous No.283657259 [Report]
>>283656735
Yes, hes.
Anonymous No.283657275 [Report]
>>283657039
Swimming with the fishes
Anonymous No.283657280 [Report] >>283657499 >>283658526 >>283661175 >>283667049
>No strategy
>No tactics
>No technique
>No choreography
>Just "Hit him really hard with big haki"
Anonymous No.283657325 [Report] >>283657454 >>283657611 >>283657725 >>283662354 >>283662416
People are saying Imu cant domi reversi Luffy since its not his homeland but cant he just domi reversi Loki and use him to fight Luffy?
Anonymous No.283657454 [Report] >>283657827 >>283662354
>>283657325
No hard proof it was to be there homeland only speculation so far
Anonymous No.283657499 [Report]
>>283657280
That is strategy. Devil fruit powers can be nullified by haki unless someone blocks it with equal or more haki. Roger said use all your haki even if it kills you and worry about the after effects later. This was established to be a thing by Zoro as overusing haki could kill you during the King fight right before Zoro unlocked King of Hell.

The strategy was to throw away safety and overpower his haki so they could beat his devil fruit power effects. Rather than trying to ware him down together and hope to win a long term fight. It's the same as running in for a knockout as quick as possible in boxing rather than trying to go all the rounds and hoping it works or else you're gassing yourself out before the next round.
Anonymous No.283657534 [Report]
>>283656390
Hibari is for Kuzan though
Anonymous No.283657611 [Report] >>283657857
>>283657325
People are saying it's because he is in his homeland and not because he fought Harald, Garling and all the God Knights while protecting his family, and Imu back to back before having tentacles stabbed through him?
Anonymous No.283657692 [Report]
>>283656223
this is my headcanon from now on.
Imu got the immortality surgery as a kid and was stuck with the body and mental maturity of a kid
Anonymous No.283657712 [Report] >>283657775 >>283657788 >>283661175
>>283652747
A shame that CoC is the best abbreviation we can come up with, at least better than CoK (color of kings) or CoSK (supreme king). Any other ideas?
>>283655556
Skibidizaru?
Anonymous No.283657725 [Report] >>283657814
>>283657325
We don't know what the limitations are so far. The proposed ones are
>needs to be on you homeland
>needs to anger you first
>you can't have a DF/Zoan/Nika fruit specifically
>Imu needs to have stronger haki than you
>there are no limits, Imu will just refuse to use it when the plot calls for it
All of these are plausible.
Anonymous No.283657775 [Report]
>>283657712
Coq. Short for conquerors and Color of con(q)uerors
Anonymous No.283657788 [Report] >>283662559
>>283657712
No. No one will ever use another abbreviation. CoC/CoA/CoO have been in the fandom for 15 years.
Anonymous No.283657814 [Report]
>>283657725
Or injured. Imu blew a guy's hand off with a shot gun to do it the first time.
Anonymous No.283657827 [Report] >>283658014
>>283657454
I know but even assuming thats the domi reversi limitations, it still doesnt make the current scenario any better since Loki and the entire giants call Elbaf home
Anonymous No.283657834 [Report] >>283660827
>>283656079
Coomtroon femutard will make up any shit to cope
Anonymous No.283657857 [Report]
>>283657611
People are talking about what could Domi Reversi limits be
Anonymous No.283657930 [Report]
I rewatched the tailend of the Katakuri fight last night because it was on TV and I ate 15 of those grocery store chocolate doughnut balls but I didn't put 2 and 2 together until this morning where I have really bad indigestion from all those doughtnuts
Anonymous No.283658014 [Report] >>283658230
>>283657827
Yeah but they still have to deal with the already turned giants. Either luffy is gona take a L on this one or maybe the Nika stuff can cancel out the change
Anonymous No.283658141 [Report]
>>283655418
Garpfags actually think this for real.
Anonymous No.283658230 [Report]
>>283658014
Some people predict Brooks music will wake Gunko up and detach Gunko from Imu
Anonymous No.283658294 [Report] >>283658789 >>283659822 >>283660000 >>283661175
you guys think God Valley lived up to the hype?
Anonymous No.283658381 [Report]
>>283654348
could of had more giant Bonney screentime but guess Saji getting rekt again was fine
Anonymous No.283658484 [Report]
>>283656390
Lucky bastard
Anonymous No.283658526 [Report]
>>283657280
just like the rooftop with Kaido.... but BIGGER
Anonymous No.283658562 [Report] >>283658722 >>283658764
Anonymous No.283658671 [Report]
>>283656390
>>283656631
What's she listening to
Anonymous No.283658722 [Report]
>>283658562
what power up % do they get after throwing their capes?
Anonymous No.283658764 [Report]
>>283658562
Cool moment
Anonymous No.283658789 [Report] >>283659013 >>283659037 >>283659078
>>283658294
I really expected it to be two chapters long at most so it already exceeded my expectations. If the next chapter has Xebec dying on-screen then I'm fine with never going back to God's Valley ever again.
Anonymous No.283658842 [Report] >>283659022 >>283660324
>>283652747
So what exactly was the "Mass" they were talking about?
Do they just mean "more Haki"?
Anonymous No.283658982 [Report] >>283659640
All this started because Oda gave up on ZKK and made the shitshow that was Gear 5.
Anonymous No.283659013 [Report] >>283659999
>>283658789
Of course we're going back. For Shanks's mom flashback.
Anonymous No.283659022 [Report]
>>283658842
Pretty much, dump haki in a single strike to overcome his and defeat him in a single blow
Anonymous No.283659037 [Report] >>283659107
>>283658789
>If the next chapter has Xebec dying on-screen then I'm fine with never going back to God's Valley ever again.
Same here..
Is time to move to Harald dead to return to the present in 2026.
Anonymous No.283659078 [Report] >>283659225 >>283659418 >>283659638
>>283658789
On-Screen.. Why?
Garling killing a 1HP Rocks is still be a Fraud.
Anonymous No.283659107 [Report] >>283659318
>>283659037
>Is time to move to Harald dead
And Harald was just as strong as Xebec, i wonder if the talk about mass here will come into play as to how Loki killed Harald
Anonymous No.283659215 [Report] >>283659388 >>283659455
Previous episode adapted chapter 1114 and the first 4 pages of 1115.
This episode went even further with the pacing and adapted the rest of 1115 and all of 1116.
Could they manage to finish the arc before the hiatus if they keep up this pacing?
Anonymous No.283659225 [Report] >>283659374 >>283659425 >>283659702
>>283659078
>Garling
Who the fuck cares aboyt Garling? We want Rocks to regain some dignity in death, utter some last words. Stuff like that.
Anonymous No.283659318 [Report]
>>283659107
What if Harald was injured after all his guards attacked him? Or was able to control himself a little better than Rocks?
Anonymous No.283659374 [Report]
>>283659225
Garling fans are still crying wanting something..

I fear that sadly another chapter would just show Garling giving the final hit to Rocks. Still pathetic of course.
Anonymous No.283659388 [Report]
>>283659215
Would be even better if they stopped forcing filler like Nusjuro vs Oimo, Kashi, Sanji, and Bonney. I get that Toei loves to dickride him and Zoro, but to do this while adapting all of Vegapunk’s broadcasts with two chapters in one episode is an insult.
Anonymous No.283659418 [Report] >>283659461
>>283659078
>On-Screen.. Why?
Because Xebec is a major character of this flashback.
Anonymous No.283659425 [Report]
>>283659225
He really died or... no? Silver Axe did not wanted to escape in Rocks ship.
Perhaps Oda is suggesting that one old Rocks could be the man with the last ponegriph?

But one problem here is that Rocks did not had any DF to make what the Burned man makes
Anonymous No.283659455 [Report]
>>283659215
They are most definitely planning to end Egghead in December before the holiday breaks, I think there are six episodes left in total for this year and only 8/9 chapters to adapt.
Anonymous No.283659461 [Report] >>283659566 >>283659644
>>283659418
Somehow I fear that Oda could ruin it to give to Garling a small "victory".
I almost prefer see a flashback later with Rocks giving one last message to Harald or something..
Anonymous No.283659566 [Report] >>283659658
>>283659461
>Somehow I fear that Oda could ruin it to give to Garling a small "victory".
Wano should've taught you that kill-stealers in One Piece are not treated good by the plot.
Anonymous No.283659599 [Report]
>>283652747
It's cool that CoC can cancel CoA and CoO this is why haki isn't too bad and just needs to be fleshed out
Anonymous No.283659625 [Report]
>>283653047
>>283653051
We learned everything about it already. Harald was turned by Imu who planned to betray him since the very start.
Anonymous No.283659638 [Report]
>>283659078
>Akainu can’t kill a 1 HP cancer-debuffed Whitebeard
>Garling got utterly obliterated by Rocks despite turning his family into demons
Pirates run the world.
Anonymous No.283659640 [Report]
>>283658982
Nope, don't tell me that's when you started reading?
Anonymous No.283659644 [Report] >>283659729
>>283659461
>I don't want him to get a proper death scene because I may lose points in the character wars
lame
Anonymous No.283659658 [Report]
>>283659566
Ohhh... Of course Higurashi and Guernica.

You can have a point he is the Youngest Gorosei. Instead to a quick dead he could receive a worst fate.
Anonymous No.283659664 [Report]
>>283652903
If it's non-spoiler text, it's fine.
Anonymous No.283659690 [Report] >>283659711
so did Ray canonically NTR literally every fucking pirate of that era?
Anonymous No.283659702 [Report]
>>283659225
I care about garling the most in this flashback besides rocks and the characters we already know about
Anonymous No.283659711 [Report]
>>283659690
Yes
Anonymous No.283659729 [Report]
>>283659644
Is not like I liked his end neither.
But perhaps see Rocks say some epic words in front ot the Rat Garling could be funny.
Anonymous No.283659805 [Report] >>283660074
I think Imu will summon Shamrock to fight Loki.

Loki will tear his arm and he won't be able to regenerate it
Anonymous No.283659822 [Report] >>283659865
>>283658294
No, mainly because many characters got shafted, were ignored and introduced for absolutely no reason, the main plot was ok though.
Anonymous No.283659829 [Report]
>>283652415 (OP)
>>283652823
Thanks for the dump.
Anonymous No.283659865 [Report] >>283659910 >>283660091
>>283659822
What characters got shafted? Only Garling seemed to have got the short end of the stick and that may as well have been on purpose since titles are meant to be disproved in One Piece.
Anonymous No.283659879 [Report] >>283664242
I love Garp chujo
Anonymous No.283659902 [Report]
Anonymous No.283659910 [Report] >>283660050
>>283659865
Rocks got shit on hard by Imu but thats to be expected I guess
Anonymous No.283659999 [Report]
>>283659013
No, we won't. She is not important to the story. Only dads and male characters matter.
Anonymous No.283660000 [Report] >>283660011 >>283660019 >>283660062 >>283664861
>>283658294
GV was meh. A Gunko flashback would've been better
Anonymous No.283660011 [Report]
>>283660000
Brook...
Anonymous No.283660019 [Report]
>>283660000
Goonko's flashback is cooming later.
Anonymous No.283660050 [Report] >>283660099 >>283660167 >>283660183
>>283659910
We all knew that was going to happen so its not worth mentioning.
Garling, however, jobbed so fucking hard that pretty much every shanksfag have abandoned him. They used to hype him up so much before this kek.
Anonymous No.283660062 [Report] >>283660186
>>283660000
No one cares coomer fag
Anonymous No.283660072 [Report] >>283660115
Why is Shamrock a jobber?
Anonymous No.283660074 [Report] >>283660145
>>283659805
I suspect that Mariejoa situation will avoid that.
Also with this flashback I do not see the present events last more than 20 chapters.
Anonymous No.283660091 [Report] >>283660117 >>283660144
>>283659865
Every holy knight, garling, captain john, stussy, gloriossa, silver axe, gaban, gil bastor, BOGARD, STREUSEN, and i guess the big fishman guy but im glad he was ignored.
Anonymous No.283660099 [Report] >>283660212
>>283660050
Oh yeah Garling is 100x worse, I dont think anyone is even shitting on Rocks for that, I just mentioned it. Overall HKs got the short end of the stick in this entire flashback
Anonymous No.283660115 [Report] >>283660189
>>283660072
Dragon: Thanks Oda. You are finally making justice to my character.
Oda(How I can tell him that this is a BB thing?)
Anonymous No.283660117 [Report] >>283660333
>>283660091
>gaban
He's going to get action next chapter or so
Anonymous No.283660144 [Report] >>283660305
>>283660091
Really none of those characters warrant extra screen-time except for Gaban I guess because he knows how to deal with Sommers. And he's going back to Roger anyways-
Anonymous No.283660145 [Report] >>283660284
>>283660074

Poor Charlos...
His grandparents must be siblings who named his father Rosward Rosward.
Anonymous No.283660167 [Report]
>>283660050
He was always one expansion of Shanks agenda. In the same way that Beckham.
Now they will likely focus in support the brother ignoring him.
Anonymous No.283660183 [Report]
>>283660050
Yes garling got killed the most it's unfortunate, secondly it's captain john literally 2 most hyped characters besides the obvious ones we know and rocks atleast those are the ones i was hyped for the most
Anonymous No.283660185 [Report]
>>283653000
>>283653047
This is the end of Harold's Flashback
Well return to Loki's Flashback soon
Anonymous No.283660186 [Report]
>>283660062
One piece is a coomer manga tho
Anonymous No.283660187 [Report]
>>283654027
I’m hoping its just a past incarnation of Marco. The theory that Marco has been the only user of the Phoenix Fruit for centuries is too fascinating to me. If its trye it makes the Phoenix Zoan the most inaccessible DF of all time
Anonymous No.283660189 [Report] >>283660462
>>283660115

Lafitte hypnotizes Charlos, who kills a CD and sets a fire.
Anonymous No.283660212 [Report] >>283660289
>>283660099
They're not called Holy Roppo for nothing. They're neither the Big Boss nor the Big Boss's highest ranking subordinates. Withe the monters present on GV, they were bound to be humiliated. It's asif Tobi Roppo were left to guard Onigashima from Supernovas attack.
Anonymous No.283660254 [Report] >>283660593
The more time passes the more I see Garp as EXACTLY like Luffy both in looks and personality and even morals atp. Hes got that pirate personality but he considers the marines as his pirate crew. Hes not here to be some super civilian protector or to serve the WG and their interests, hes just there to fight and protect marines. Its why he loves Sengoku, because despite his actions, Sengoku is like Garps Rayleigh. His allegiance in the world is first to his crew (the Navy) and second to everyone else, including his blood family. Its why I said hes a bit like Luffy and Roger by extention, the difference is his crew are the marines
Anonymous No.283660284 [Report] >>283660939
>>283660145
To his luck Rosward Charlos does not sound that bad. But unfortunately he likely inherited their IQ.
Charlos with a normal family would look better.
Anonymous No.283660289 [Report]
>>283660212
I personally have been saying from the start, they're EoS opponents for weaker SHs and Luffys allies, apart from maybe Shamrock
Anonymous No.283660305 [Report] >>283660381 >>283660904
>>283660144
Why introduce them at all then? Garling didn't get shafted? Captain john and silver axe didn't get shafted? Gil bastor doesn't deserve some shine? Why introduce them at all? then never let them shine or have moments especially that we probably will never see them ever again, well besides garling but the hype was killed.
Anonymous No.283660324 [Report]
>>283652855
>>283653149
>>283658842
blackbeard's yami yami no mi is even more important now as he can create literal mass with gravity
i cant wait for what this will do for the power scaler hahahaha
Anonymous No.283660333 [Report]
>>283660117
I hope so
Anonymous No.283660343 [Report] >>283660401
>>283652723
>special hazard pay
lol, so they get paid more for the human hunts and aren’t immediately executed afterwards like anons thought
Anonymous No.283660381 [Report] >>283660706
>>283660305
to build fake hype anon
Anonymous No.283660401 [Report]
>>283660343
Yeah they basically got paid to shut up and remove records. I am glad this was mentioned. I've been saying for a while, I think most marines shut up because being a marine in a world full of economoically isolated nations is very lucrative, Venus probably pays them a treasure
Anonymous No.283660462 [Report] >>283660503
>>283660189
Ahahahaa. I would like it.
But if I was Laffite I would hypnotize more CD. Ignoring the hypnosis they would point to Charlos as who started this. The instigator.

I would like see him 1 month after lose his CD position. I am sure that he would look even worst.
Anonymous No.283660503 [Report] >>283660577
>>283660462
>I would like see him 1 month after lose his CD position.

Garling would order Shamrock to execute him as an example.
Anonymous No.283660520 [Report] >>283660576 >>283660614 >>283661114
Why didn't Imu just poessess a HK and quickly deal with the marejois crisis? Imu's powers are retarded.
Anonymous No.283660576 [Report] >>283660667 >>283660754 >>283660839
>>283660520
The Marines are rebelling. I think Akainu is burning Mary Geoise. He learned from the vice admiral about the Egghead mission and that Doggerman was killed by Saturn.
Anonymous No.283660577 [Report]
>>283660503
>Garling would order Shamrock to execute him as an example.
Or maybe not?
Shamrock is now the new HK leader perhaps he can decide what to make. His dad is now trapped with the other 4 old dudes.

Losing the CD position and "live in the misery"(according their logic) could scare the rest of CD even more than one execution.
Anonymous No.283660593 [Report]
>>283660254
a recurring theme of roger's generation is they were "too early"
garp knows the marines and world government are fucked up, but was too early to do anything about it
so instead he invested in the next generation, used his strength to save who he could, and hold the line until things are ready for real change
garp made immense personal sacrifice for his sense of justice, and almost gave it all up at marineford
Anonymous No.283660614 [Report] >>283660652 >>283661332 >>283665711
>>283660520
What if some CD under hypnosis are causing the chaos? We know that they are angry. Even Summers mentioned it.
Laffite could manipulate this situation without anyone suspecting from BB.

Why Imu does not kill them? Perhaps they are useful for something? Like to make Imu live that many centuries. Reducing their lifetimes.
Anonymous No.283660652 [Report] >>283661110 >>283661510
>>283660614
>tortured for their mismanagement

Jupeterbros...
Anonymous No.283660664 [Report] >>283660691 >>283660940 >>283661000 >>283661160
>According to One Piece Magazine Vol. 20, Jump covers are usually designed by the magazine’s designers, who create several layout options for each issue. For the 28th anniversary cover, they proposed one featuring Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji together, but Oda rejected it and chose a solo Luffy cover instead
Remember Zoro and Sanji are irrelevant characters and get pushed by editors
Anonymous No.283660667 [Report]
>>283660576
Cross Guild existence makes it unlikely. The Marines would win another enemy with the WG

They would lose the WG money, even the Seraphins and Pacifistas because the Gorosei have a higher autorithy than anyone in the marine above them.

About Doberman. If Sanji survived to Spider Saturn making this he likely is fine with human saturn using that move.
Anonymous No.283660691 [Report]
>>283660664
Anonymous No.283660706 [Report]
>>283660381
Why build fake hype?
Anonymous No.283660754 [Report]
>>283660576
The Navy would get low diffed by the WG
Anonymous No.283660827 [Report]
>>283657834
So you prefer gooning to dudes, that's gay
Anonymous No.283660839 [Report]
>>283660576
Too early for that if it ever happens it's probably dragon or bb or both
Anonymous No.283660904 [Report]
>>283660305
>Garling didn't get shafted?
I literally said that he was.
Anonymous No.283660939 [Report] >>283661110
>>283660284
Reddit image
Anonymous No.283660940 [Report] >>283661002
>>283660664
>people love your manga because of the crew
>you just want it to be MC nika-wank
Anonymous No.283661000 [Report]
>>283660664
Who gives a fuck?
Anonymous No.283661002 [Report]
>>283660940
>zorofags
>people
Anonymous No.283661045 [Report]
>>283654796
Sanji is the best swordsman they have
Anonymous No.283661082 [Report]
Anonymous No.283661110 [Report]
>>283660652
>Jupeterbros...
Ju peter: Most of the food is for Imu-sama and his direct pawns.
>>283660939
It was from certain small video.

Sadly even if CHADlos saves Luffy he ends in Shamrock hands.. It seems that he can not avoid the Fingarlands in any universe.
Anonymous No.283661114 [Report]
>>283660520
Anon we don't even know what this "Mariejois crisis" is. What if it's CDs taking other CDs hostage to demand food and not a matter they want resolved with brute force?
Anonymous No.283661160 [Report] >>283661356
>>283660664
I mean maybe the 3 characters composition was just shit
Anonymous No.283661175 [Report]
>>283657280
brute force is the answer anon

>>283657712
other languages call it Ambition which makes more sense

>>283658294
I honestly expected garp and roger to be domireversed so that garp's loss of memory and roger's illness would have been explained
Anonymous No.283661211 [Report] >>283661237 >>283661391 >>283661392 >>283661442 >>283661520 >>283661648 >>283661805
Whats his endgame?
Anonymous No.283661237 [Report]
>>283661211
Free cherry pie for everyone
Anonymous No.283661280 [Report] >>283661441 >>283661845
God I hate Harald so much
Anonymous No.283661332 [Report] >>283661701
>>283660614
>Why Imu does not kill them? Perhaps they are useful for something? Like to make Imu live that many centuries. Reducing their lifetimes.
Nah, if it was that it would be fine to treat them like cattle. No need to pamper them or elevate them to Godhood.
I really think Imu just treasures them because they're the descendants of his former allies. That's all there is to it.
Anonymous No.283661356 [Report] >>283661414
>>283661160
You're talking with a characterfag. They will twist anything into evidence of their delusions.
Anonymous No.283661391 [Report]
>>283661211
Pirate King of the World
Becoming ruler of a planet where almost everyone is a pirate and every day is a title defense match that tests his luck, wit and strength against wannabe usurpers. He eventually dies on a mountain of bloodied loot.
Anonymous No.283661392 [Report]
>>283661211
To become a Warlord/Admiral/Yonko/King/Gorosei/Captain/Boss
Anonymous No.283661414 [Report]
>>283661356
I know, I'm just offering a nuanced perspective to try and help them out of this intellectual cul-de-sac
Anonymous No.283661441 [Report] >>283661470
>>283661280
Harald did nothing wrong.
Anonymous No.283661442 [Report] >>283661520
>>283661211
Become Imu in place of Imu
Anonymous No.283661470 [Report]
>>283661441
Harold did nothing at all, that's the issue
Anonymous No.283661510 [Report]
>>283660652
Isn't the redline made of really dense rock? Not very good for growing crops
Anonymous No.283661520 [Report] >>283661591
>>283661442
>>283661211
If that's it Doffy had the right idea by bringing Law to the room of flower and have him shamble bodies around.
Though knowing Oda and how much he carries BB there's probably not even a need for that kind of plan because the Darkness fruit will be a natural counter to whatever Imu is
Anonymous No.283661586 [Report] >>283661606
I’m going to rape Imu
Anonymous No.283661591 [Report]
>>283661520
>implying Imus super duper haki would allow Law to do anything to him
Anonymous No.283661606 [Report] >>283661702
>>283661586
blackbeard...
Anonymous No.283661648 [Report]
>>283661211
He will defeat the WG but... He will notice that someone was faster taking the throne and will just return to Hachinosu
Anonymous No.283661701 [Report] >>283661744 >>283661767
>>283661332
>I really think Imu just treasures them because they're the descendants of his former allies. That's all there is to it.
Ahahaha. Good joke.
We talk about the same dude that killed Saturn.
Anonymous No.283661702 [Report]
>>283661606
Rape correction is justice
Anonymous No.283661708 [Report] >>283661820 >>283661948 >>283664469
https://files.catbox.moe/rdzkgg.mp4
Anonymous No.283661744 [Report]
>>283661701
Saturn had it coming
Anonymous No.283661767 [Report] >>283661904
>>283661701
Saturn failed him though, that's different. It's just the typical "bad boss hits subordinates for failing" caracterization.
Anonymous No.283661805 [Report] >>283661811 >>283661927
>>283661211
The world
Anonymous No.283661811 [Report]
>>283661805
Augur pls
Anonymous No.283661820 [Report]
>>283661708
Mihawk is so lucky
Anonymous No.283661824 [Report] >>283661852 >>283661870 >>283661890
Rape Justice
Rape the tyranny out of evil kings. Delusions of grandeur cannot survive nonconsensual sodomy.
Rape evil kings and queens in every hole and leave them ahegao’ing on the floor of their throne room with heart shaped pupils, cum drooling from every oriface.
This is how we save the world.
Anonymous No.283661845 [Report]
>>283661280
Loki...
Anonymous No.283661852 [Report] >>283661982
>>283661824
powerful
Anonymous No.283661864 [Report]
Do you think Blackbeard would try to propose Bonney marriage again when he faces the Strawhats?
Anonymous No.283661867 [Report] >>283662010
All of WG current misfortune can be traced back to Garling
Anonymous No.283661870 [Report]
>>283661824
Bad end Admiral Sanjino ...
Anonymous No.283661890 [Report] >>283661987
>>283661824
Third worlder blud...
Anonymous No.283661904 [Report] >>283661925 >>283661959
>>283661767
The CD are far more useless..
Imu could had just demoted Saturn to HK. Something far more humiliating
Anonymous No.283661925 [Report]
>>283661904
>demotion is more humiliating than death
Errr ok american psycho
Anonymous No.283661927 [Report]
>>283661805
>gets domi reversi'd
Anonymous No.283661948 [Report]
>>283661708
Cute.
Anonymous No.283661959 [Report]
>>283661904
Nigga this aint no corporate job, this is for the life and desth of Imus empire
Anonymous No.283661970 [Report]
>>283652452
schnozed
Anonymous No.283661972 [Report] >>283662095 >>283662173 >>283662201 >>283662373
so, eris is nico oliva, right? that's the general consensu?
Anonymous No.283661982 [Report]
>>283661852
He is..
Anonymous No.283661987 [Report]
>>283661890
To conquer and conqueror you must break their will to fight. By any means necessary.
Anonymous No.283661989 [Report] >>283662002 >>283662037
>>283652540
When will Luffy achieve this build
Anonymous No.283662002 [Report]
>>283661989
When he's 60.
Anonymous No.283662010 [Report] >>283662215 >>283662333
>>283661867
and despite that Imu promoted him... How stupid
Anonymous No.283662012 [Report]
>>283652903
That doesn't matter at all unless you're posting images, niggerfaggot.
Anonymous No.283662037 [Report]
>>283661989
When Garp genetics start to correct his 40s Shanks style appearance.. So when he gets old.
Anonymous No.283662083 [Report]
>>283652597
cutieosa
Anonymous No.283662095 [Report]
>>283661972
Sure anon, by the way Nami has been Rebecca in disguise since Dressrosa, Nami disembarked because she wanted to fuck Viola and Rebecca realized she gave no fucks about a father who steals her kills in the name of protecting her and would rather be om the crew
Anonymous No.283662173 [Report]
>>283661972
wrong nose, wrong hair
Anonymous No.283662201 [Report]
>>283661972
No, Eris is Robin.
Anonymous No.283662207 [Report] >>283662265 >>283662596 >>283667840
>>283652660
So, the ghost... does that mean one of them has Perona's fruit?
Anonymous No.283662215 [Report] >>283662249 >>283662298
>>283662010
I know Ju Peters sandworm ass ain’t talking shit when he couldn’t wound or even slow down Luffy once at Egghead
Anonymous No.283662249 [Report]
>>283662215
He btfo'd Emeth and all Goofy could do against them was run away because his ACoC wasnt strong enough, what did Garling do? Fuck all
Anonymous No.283662257 [Report]
>>283654344
Maybe he's Davy Davy Jones, you can't know.
Anonymous No.283662265 [Report]
>>283662207
>Stussy's hand
Anonymous No.283662269 [Report]
>>283655556
just google it, its real WTF
Anonymous No.283662298 [Report]
>>283662215
GODpeter bitched Emeth who bitched Topman who bitched Shitffy
Anonymous No.283662333 [Report] >>283662520 >>283662536 >>283662602
>>283662010
He's strong.. there's a reason for his strength...
Anonymous No.283662354 [Report] >>283662381 >>283663141
>>283657325
>>283657454
Wait, are people really saying this?
That's fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.283662373 [Report]
>>283661972
Doesn't even look similar
Anonymous No.283662381 [Report] >>283662436 >>283663445
>>283662354
It has to be some limitation. Native landing makes the most sense.
Anonymous No.283662416 [Report]
>>283657325
Reason Saturn was completely fine with strawhats going to Elbaf because Elbaf is nika's home and Imu can domi reverse Nika here
Anonymous No.283662431 [Report]
I
NEED
IMUSSY
MAN…WOMAN…SEXLESS BLACK OOZE OR PRIMORDIAL EVIL
I DONT CARE
I MUST HAVE IMUSSY
I MUST HAVE IMUSSY NOW!!!!!
Anonymous No.283662436 [Report] >>283662455 >>283668095
>>283662381
You guys remind me why I barely come into OP threads anymore.
The theories you guys' come up with are so fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.283662455 [Report]
>>283662436
Nah, they are smart.
Anonymous No.283662479 [Report] >>283662672 >>283667336
>>283652422
Suicide is a sin.
Anonymous No.283662520 [Report]
>>283662333
Yeaaaaahh. A reason.
Anonymous No.283662536 [Report]
>>283662333
Oda was a bitch for wasting a question on this.
Anonymous No.283662559 [Report]
>>283657788
Which is unfortunate since conqueror's haki was a blatant mistranslation.
>Main goal is to be pirate king
>Haki type literally has king in its name
>"Let's translate it as conqueror"
No seriously, how the hell did that even happen? What moron was responsible?
Anonymous No.283662582 [Report]
>>283652823
So uh, what's going on in the present that we got this long-ass flashback arc?
Anonymous No.283662596 [Report]
>>283662207
Probably the guy in the hat
Anonymous No.283662602 [Report]
>>283662333
He summons Imu every time he jobs, thats quite the strength, no?
Anonymous No.283662609 [Report]
>>283656085
Where's
>Punch with the Haki in your blood
Anonymous No.283662617 [Report]
>>283656016
*Sengoku
Anonymous No.283662672 [Report]
>>283662479
That's why he retroactively became a demon
Justice wins again
Anonymous No.283662725 [Report] >>283664082
>>283654796
When I was a kid, my father, god rest his soul, a bonafide jester, told me about plenty of impossible creatures. One of these was a "mountain bird" with one leg shorter than the other, so that it could remain upright on a steep mountain cliff. The other, a lopsided fish, with one fin larger than the other, because it lived in circular ponds. Who knew there was a third one, a Pirate King with lopsided wings. One strong enough to care a Pirate King by itself, and one just small enough to be made fun of.
Anonymous No.283662811 [Report] >>283662846 >>283662880
>>283652747
And people were saying "my haki > your haki" wasn't real.
Anonymous No.283662846 [Report] >>283662987
>>283662811
Who were saying that?
Anonymous No.283662880 [Report]
>>283662811
Thats been a thing since Punk Hazard and Dressrosa. Its not our fault some of you are illiterate
Anonymous No.283662987 [Report] >>283663135 >>283663441
>>283662846
I mean, random anons? I remember having these discussions years ago, about how you can cancel out an opponent's haki with your own, but some posters were insistent that "it doesn't work like that".
Anonymous No.283663135 [Report]
>>283662987
Those people were just coping lmao
One piece is a battle shounen punch harder is always the way
Anonymous No.283663141 [Report]
>>283662354
Yeah I mean it makes as much sense as that island devil fruit
Anonymous No.283663298 [Report] >>283663354 >>283663400 >>283663423 >>283664218 >>283664322 >>283664786
Zoro was legit useless and liability during egghead.
He ended up putting whole crew in danger
Both Nami and Sanji called him out
Anonymous No.283663354 [Report] >>283663423
>>283663298
Zoro was also being carried around in Wano, hes just a jobber on general
Anonymous No.283663400 [Report] >>283664251
>>283663298
>Sanji one shots a seraphim
>Zoro can't beat the cat jobber from 700 chapters ago
Sad!
Anonymous No.283663423 [Report]
>>283663298
>>283663354
And Gyaban kind of called him out for not being able to use Supreme King Haki properly this arc.
Anonymous No.283663441 [Report] >>283663847
>>283662987
I mean, it's basic physics:
>F = m x a
In this case, Roger is just saying that they need more m(ass) to overwhelm Xebec's own haki force.
Anonymous No.283663445 [Report] >>283663502 >>283664197 >>283664248 >>283664458
>>283662381
domi means home in latin
domi reversi translates to I've returned home
or if we translate it badly like a japanese manga artist who doesn't speak latin would we could translate it reversed at home
Anonymous No.283663502 [Report]
>>283663445
Romanes eunt domus?
Anonymous No.283663663 [Report] >>283664379
>>283654348
>Forces Nusjuro to use ACoC and both hands to block a DJ kick
>Makes him lose grip and balance preventing him from unsheathe his katana
Eat shit zoroach.
Anonymous No.283663733 [Report] >>283664025 >>283664739
Anonymous No.283663847 [Report]
>>283663441
You use force to act on a mass, and that gives you the acceleration, that's what the equation is saying, the point isn't more mass = more force (gravity aside). A better analogy here is momentum, p = m*v. If you send more mass in something's way, you're more likely to stop it or even turn it in the other direction.
Anonymous No.283663931 [Report] >>283664008
>theres a fruit that brings you forward in time
>theres a fruit that slows you

How long until we see time stop fruit
Anonymous No.283664008 [Report]
>>283663931
>time stop fruit
Foxy's fruit could be that. Maybe a technique he hasn't figured out.
Anonymous No.283664025 [Report] >>283668189
>>283663733
Please do not post this one made by a well poisoning psycho.
Anonymous No.283664082 [Report]
>>283662725
with Gaban getting NTR'd by Ray, and essentially being a totally unimportant side character during God Valley, is their any hope for sanjibros to recover?
Anonymous No.283664197 [Report] >>283664381
>>283663445
its a board game

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversi
Anonymous No.283664218 [Report]
>>283663298
>Sanjifag fanfiction
Anonymous No.283664242 [Report]
>>283659879
People that aren't speedreaders:
Anonymous No.283664248 [Report]
>>283663445
Maybe Oda hired the one manga assistant in Japan who knows Latin
Anonymous No.283664251 [Report]
>>283663400
It's okay Sanji will look out for all of them.
Anonymous No.283664322 [Report] >>283664786
>>283663298
staggering levels of projection
Anonymous No.283664334 [Report] >>283664489 >>283664499 >>283664665 >>283665829
I want to hear an objective opinion on when exactly One Piece started to go downhill. And no, do not say it was after timeskip. Many of the things timeskip is criticized for appeared long before it.
Anonymous No.283664379 [Report] >>283664466
>>283663663
>bite diffed
>hilt diffed
Anonymous No.283664381 [Report] >>283664450 >>283664458
>>283664197
yes, and there's no move called Domi in reversi. Domi reversi is something Oda came up with.
Domi could stand for domination, and reversi simply refers to the game, which frankly makes more sense to me than a latin reference because I doubt Oda knows any latin.
But it could also be a pun if Oda or his editors went to read up on magic and demonology as research for Imu and some japanese texts have references to some latin words
Anonymous No.283664450 [Report]
>>283664381
oda is good at blending references so i dont think its any one thing
but seeing as how there are literally panels showing the black discs surrounding white discs on elbaf before they are "flipped" im thinking the mechanics are coming from the game and the latin is flavoring
Anonymous No.283664458 [Report]
>>283663445
>>283664381
Domi comes from home, but it's the root for a lot of other words, like master.
Anonymous No.283664466 [Report] >>283664610
>>283664379
>no damage
>no damage
Anonymous No.283664469 [Report] >>283664582
>>283661708
>Lazy cosplay
>Looks nothing like Perona
>Acts nothing like Perona
>Annoying retard tik-tok dance
And worst of all
>3DPG
Off yourself immediately
Anonymous No.283664489 [Report]
>>283664334
whole cake for me and some parts of the community so your pic
Anonymous No.283664499 [Report] >>283664543 >>283664698
>>283664334
It's not that any particular thing appeared, it's more about frequency. Kuro arc already has plenty of stuff people criticize post-TS for with annoying kids no one likes, Nami face "princess" and Run Piece.
Anonymous No.283664543 [Report] >>283664698
>>283664499
Thing is those things shouldn't be in an arc like wano that's why it sucked people expected it be an enies lobby or a marineford
Anonymous No.283664582 [Report]
>>283664469
based 2d god
Anonymous No.283664587 [Report]
>>283653133
You mean JAG
Anonymous No.283664610 [Report] >>283664646 >>283664672
>>283664466
>got bitten
>3 people needed to save him
>ran from the fight
>ran onto a boat
>hid underneath giants
>hid behind Luffy
>hid behind Bonnie
"no damage"
Anonymous No.283664612 [Report] >>283664655
Topman? The STRONGEST!
Anonymous No.283664633 [Report]
>>283654348
Toei is shit
Anonymous No.283664646 [Report] >>283664691
>>283664610
SH bluds really need to redeem themselves in Wano, Egghead was such a one man show for Luffy its insane, its the first arc it feels that the rest of the crew leags so far behind Luffy its insane. And I get the elders were the enemies but still
Anonymous No.283664655 [Report]
>>283664612
statements such as this ENRAGE and HUMILIATE rape victims
Anonymous No.283664665 [Report]
>>283664334
>What's 2 + 2? And don't say 4
It was mainly after the timeskip, but then the real question is why?
It's because after Marineford and Strong World, Oda became too big of a name and Jump started only assigning yes-men rookie editors to him. He stopped having people around him willing to offer serious criticism.
Even Torishima has publicly commented on this so it's no secret.
Anonymous No.283664672 [Report] >>283664741
>>283664610
>Zorotard screeches
Stay mad.
Anonymous No.283664691 [Report] >>283664801 >>283664842
>>283664646
Zoro one-shot Lucci and knocked back a Gorosei, and those were like the only two attacks he made during the entire Arc
So really Oda needs to cut out the foreplay and just let Zoro into the middle of a fight at some point, its retarded watching him get put on the sideline for every arc post time skip
Anonymous No.283664698 [Report]
>>283664543
>>283664499
When I think of Wano and why I hated it, the running, the kids, and the princess do not even come mind. I just never liked Momo and Kinemon, nor gave much of a fuck about their deal. It just wasn't interesting and I disliked them so much I wish Luffy had left them to die with their issues. Oden and the rest of his sycophant did nothing but solidify this conviction.
Anonymous No.283664739 [Report]
>>283663733
This one is so incredibly ass compared to all of the last ones. The long texts to the far left and bottom left are especially despicable.
Anonymous No.283664741 [Report] >>283664825 >>283664880 >>283664921
>>283664672
>no argument
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.283664753 [Report] >>283664846 >>283664916
Are Imu’s Magic powers From A Devil Fruit that can bestow powers to other people?Similar to Big Mom… or are the Demonic powers something completely new?
Anonymous No.283664786 [Report] >>283664818
>>283663298
>>283664322
It'll always be funny that Sanji was facing the Gorosei alongside Luffy, Franky and Bonney while Jimbei had to literally throw Zoro back into the main plot
Bonus points: Lucci was still standing and had already been beaten that arc, twice if you count Stussy
Anonymous No.283664801 [Report]
>>283664691
He didn't one-shot Lucci and was knocked back by a Gorosei as well.
He made many attacks against the Seraphims.
Anonymous No.283664817 [Report]
JOBji
Anonymous No.283664818 [Report] >>283666619 >>283666981
>>283664786
>Lucci was still standing
just another parallel with Luffy!
Anonymous No.283664825 [Report]
>>283664741
>Sanji tanked a mythic zoan with conquerors
Holy fuark what a beast
Anonymous No.283664842 [Report]
>>283664691
Zolo had a clash with Venus and then ran away immediately, its not like Zoro could do shit anyway, you need super CoC to hurt a HK let alone an elder
Anonymous No.283664846 [Report]
>>283664753
>or are the Demonic powers something completely new?
imu is a literal devil
Anonymous No.283664861 [Report]
>>283660000
Gunko is immortal on her own which is what led to Imu seeking her out and making her their personal servant
Anonymous No.283664865 [Report]
Anonymous No.283664880 [Report] >>283664908 >>283664957
>>283664741
They had to be saved by Atlas Allahu Akbaring herself, why did Zolo do nothing?
Anonymous No.283664908 [Report] >>283664951
>>283664880
His opponent wasn't a REAL swordsman so it's not his responsibility
Anonymous No.283664916 [Report] >>283664980 >>283665007 >>283665010 >>283665042 >>283665152 >>283665897
>>283664753
They come from Imu consuming multiple devil fruits after receiving the immortality surgery.
t. from the future.
Anonymous No.283664919 [Report]
PLEASE CARE ABOUT ́NAMI
Anonymous No.283664921 [Report] >>283664985 >>283665089
>>283664741
>no damage received vs no damage inflicted
Accept your loss instead, schizo.
Anonymous No.283664951 [Report]
>>283664908
Nusjuro is a literal honoraburu nip swordsman though
Anonymous No.283664957 [Report]
>>283664880
>sanjisister
>speedreader
Iconic combination

remember when sanji hid on a boat while Atlas flew away, despite the fact that he himself could
fly?
and then he did literally nothing other than hide behind Luffy and Bonnie for the rest of the arc?
Anonymous No.283664980 [Report]
>>283664916
Thanks, it was really hard to search for that image
Imu has the devil logia btw, he turns people until Devils like Crocodile turns wood into sand
Anonymous No.283664985 [Report] >>283665074 >>283665099
>>283664921
>implying sanji did any damage
meds
now
Anonymous No.283665007 [Report]
>>283664916
>We're only 3 years away from reaching the upload date listed in this
Anonymous No.283665010 [Report] >>283665143 >>283665255 >>283665287
>>283664916
God i miss old youtube
Anonymous No.283665021 [Report]
Great chapter, great episode. I love One Piece.
Anonymous No.283665042 [Report]
>>283664916
>Buggy defeat all admirals full scene
>10 seconds
Will never not chuckle at this
Anonymous No.283665074 [Report]
>>283664985
Even Luffy couldnt do amy damage to the elders, CoCless Sanji cant even hurt Sommers
Anonymous No.283665089 [Report] >>283665213
>>283664921
"no damage received"
buddy he stopped fighting for the rest of the arc after that
Anonymous No.283665090 [Report] >>283665119
The Sanji slander has got to stop, bros. He's hella strong. The man could probably take most Vice Admirals in a 1v1. Like he's Tobi Roppo tier. That's not weak by any means. Hell, I'd go as far as to say Sanji's even stronger than Franky, and I believe there's a possibility that EOS Sanji will be strong enough to high diff a YC3.
Anonymous No.283665099 [Report] >>283665154
>>283664985
>making him cough blood with a kick isn't damage
Take your meds back.
Anonymous No.283665119 [Report] >>283665349 >>283665936
>>283665090
so true!
like honestly, which member of the pre-Time Skip crew could have handled this better?
sanji right now is more powerful than ANY of the Romance Dawn crew could possibly grasp
Anonymous No.283665143 [Report] >>283665255
>>283665010
I think everybody who remembers it does.
The internet has become a much worse place overall unfortunately.
Anonymous No.283665152 [Report] >>283665187 >>283665405 >>283665709
>>283664916
So in 3 years time, what part of this will become true?
>Shanks op power reveal
>Zoro and Mihawk action
>Gear 6 and 7?
>Moria and crocodile backstories
>Roger vs Garp
>Smokers death
>Buggy defeating all admirals
Anonymous No.283665154 [Report] >>283665175 >>283665319
>>283665099
Franky blasted a hole clean through a Gorosei
Brook chopped off a Gorosei's leg

is one drop of blood from sanji supposed to be impressive?
Anonymous No.283665175 [Report]
>>283665154
BITCHjibros...and ourguy was also angry when attacking...
Anonymous No.283665187 [Report]
>>283665152
We did get a big hint about Moria's backstory at least.
Anonymous No.283665191 [Report] >>283665230 >>283665243
who else is hyped?
Anonymous No.283665213 [Report] >>283665266
>>283665089
He stopped fighting because Nusjuro fled.
Anonymous No.283665220 [Report]
Will Luffys crew do better in Elbaf? They already jobbed to Gunko, half of the crew
Anonymous No.283665230 [Report]
>>283665191
I don't think they have any business being serious opponents.
Anonymous No.283665243 [Report] >>283665307
>>283665191
Fucking kek
Anonymous No.283665255 [Report] >>283665453
>>283665010
>>283665143
>Feel like randomly watching particular One Piece scene
>All search results are either some retards filming thier over the top reaction to it or some video essay analysing why it's actually super deep and meaningful
>Or the dub on crunchyrolls channel
All garbage
Anonymous No.283665266 [Report] >>283665536
>>283665213
1) nasjuro is RIGHT THERE, he could get up and fight instead of drop to the ground
2) sanji can chase nasjuro if he wants
3) Atlas went to go help the crew and sanji didn't go with her
4) Mars showed up and sanji literally hid under the bodies of giants instead of fight him
5) Saturn showed up and sanji literally hid behind Luffy and Bonnie instead of helping fight
Anonymous No.283665287 [Report] >>283665527
>>283665010
I remember watching the entire anime of Ranma 1/2 on youtube great days...
Anonymous No.283665307 [Report] >>283665360
>>283665243
reminder that Sentomaru handled Kizaru better than lanji
Anonymous No.283665319 [Report]
>>283665154
It's supposed to be damage.
Anonymous No.283665345 [Report] >>283666067
This dude is crazy
Anonymous No.283665349 [Report] >>283665440
>>283665119
Yeah, I'd be willing to bet Sanji could solo a Pacifista with relative ease.
Anonymous No.283665360 [Report]
>>283665307
Yup.
Anonymous No.283665383 [Report] >>283665483
why did Oda pussy out of the slaver storyline he set up?
Anonymous No.283665405 [Report]
>>283665152
>Shanks op power reveal
Unless his sword has ate a df to match Shamrock i dont see him being more special than other hakimen
>Zoro and Mihawk action
Doubtful
>Gear 6 and 7?
I really hope gear 5 is final gear, maybe some super special powerup that Luffy calls gear 6 happens near end of story
>Moria and crocodile backstories
Moria got some hints recently, for Crodoile I dont expect anything big beyond Ivas secret
>Roger vs Garp
We got a panel of them clashing recently atleast, doubt we will ever get more than a couple of panels in an eventual Roger centric flashback near the end of the story
>Smokers death
Smokers character been dead for over a decade now
>Buggy defeating all admirals
Gonna happen at any moment
Anonymous No.283665439 [Report]
Remember when on YouTube people could actually customize there channels?
Anonymous No.283665440 [Report] >>283665613
>>283665349
>female sanji
my.... my loins...
Anonymous No.283665448 [Report] >>283665517
>>283652747
>When your CoC doesn't have enough "mass"
Truly CoClets
Anonymous No.283665453 [Report]
>>283665255
You can change audio track on crunchyroll vids to japanese though
Anonymous No.283665483 [Report] >>283665534
>>283665383
I can't get over aside from the dialouge this ended up happening lol
Anonymous No.283665498 [Report] >>283665580
CAN THIS SHITTY FUCKING FLASHBACK BE OVER FINALLY?

I WENT FROM BEING HUGE FANS OF ROGER PIRATES, ROCKS, DRAGON, GARP, TO LITERALLY NOT GIVING A FUCK ABOUT ANY OF THEM. THIS ENTIRE FLASHBACK DID FUCKING DAMAGE TO MOST OF ITS REVERED CAST
Anonymous No.283665517 [Report]
>>283665448
>OP powerscaling is just a CoC measuring contest
how did it come to this?
Anonymous No.283665527 [Report] >>283665672
>>283665287
I remember watched entirety of Naruto and One Piece on youtube back in 07/08 or something.
Every episode was 3 videos long because time limits
Anonymous No.283665534 [Report]
>>283665483
... Yeah? It's literally what everyone was expecting despite Sengoku's own version of the facts.
Anonymous No.283665536 [Report] >>283665609
>>283665266
Sanji is right there, Nusjuro ran to the Labophase.
Anonymous No.283665567 [Report] >>283665610 >>283665647 >>283665849 >>283666242
“CAN THIS SHITTY FUCKING FLASHBACK BE OVER FINALLY?

I WENT FROM BEING HUGE FANS OF ROGER PIRATES, ROCKS, DRAGON, GARP, TO LITERALLY NOT GIVING A FUCK ABOUT ANY OF THEM. THIS ENTIRE FLASHBACK DID FUCKING DAMAGE TO MOST OF ITS REVERED CAST”

What causes this?
Anonymous No.283665568 [Report]
For me? It was Gia Secando's AMVs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfWjdZmfcLg
Anonymous No.283665580 [Report]
>>283665498
>ROGER PIRATES
Only Roger. A hopeless simp Is not my pirate king
Anonymous No.283665609 [Report] >>283665816
>>283665536
sanji is NOT right there, he is in the dirt literally crumpled into the shape of an L
moments earlier he was in Nusjuro's mouth

also

you've addressed point 1 (poorly)
care to address point 2-5?
Anonymous No.283665610 [Report]
>>283665567
Autism.
Anonymous No.283665613 [Report]
>>283665440
Best to just not think about her.
Altough, she would be be like Top 10 strongest females in the series after Big Mom, Yamato, Hancock, Gunko etc. Well, maybe top 20.
Anonymous No.283665647 [Report]
>>283665567
Some zoomer "watched" One Piece through reels, got caught up, skimmed all the chapters until he caught up with the manga and now he's going through his first month or two of the manga's release schedule and he's tweaking the shit out
Anonymous No.283665648 [Report] >>283665716 >>283665860
>cucks every single pirate of his generation
how did he do it?
Anonymous No.283665672 [Report] >>283665850
>>283665527
>Every episode was 3 videos long because time limits
YES, that's true, it took longer to finish the anime but I liked that
Anonymous No.283665674 [Report] >>283665703
>>283652823
Imagine 24 minutes of sakuga in the anime.
Anonymous No.283665703 [Report]
>>283665674
In 2027
Anonymous No.283665709 [Report]
>>283665152
>>Shanks op power reveal
check
>>Zoro and Mihawk action
will never happen
>>Gear 6 and 7?
hopefully not
>>Moria and crocodile backstories
probably
>>Roger vs Garp
it won't be a fight like people expect
>>Smokers death
not happening
>>Buggy defeating all admirals
not happening
Anonymous No.283665711 [Report]
>>283660614
The lower CDs just serve as a smokescreen for Imu.
Anonymous No.283665716 [Report] >>283666093 >>283666105 >>283666161
>>283665648
Pussy magnet, I bet he even banged Gloriosa as well after GV
Anonymous No.283665816 [Report] >>283666125
>>283665609
The one who's not right there anymore is Nusjuro.
Anonymous No.283665829 [Report] >>283666114
>>283664334
When Logias were introduced since their invincibility paved the way to Haki.
Anonymous No.283665842 [Report] >>283665986
What did Sabo mean by “we defeated the wrong enemy” ???
Anonymous No.283665849 [Report]
>>283665567
>I love characters I know almost nothing about
>Okay I'm bored now, next silhouette please
Anonymous No.283665850 [Report]
>>283665672
>it took longer to finish the anime but I liked that
It's unintuitive, but having to jump through some sort of hoop is often more satisfying then just getting it on demand.
A journey and destination kind of thing.
Anonymous No.283665860 [Report] >>283665934
>>283665648
>gets a generic black hair nami face that smells awful
wow...
he won so hard...
Anonymous No.283665897 [Report]
>>283664916
>Weak Knock Days
kek
Anonymous No.283665909 [Report] >>283665944 >>283665967 >>283666035 >>283666042
>world is sinking
>one guy starts living in a whale
>other guy starts a ship coating business
>third guy starts a crew with no devil fruit users
>only guy to say something is the captain who had to kill himself while vagueposting
I understand why people would hate the roger pirates
Anonymous No.283665930 [Report] >>283665975
What do you think of the celestial dragons /opg/?
Anonymous No.283665934 [Report]
>>283665860
>gets the girl everyone was chasing
>explores the world and finds the One Piece
>is one of the strongest of his generation
>retires with a baddy to spend the rest of his life banging
>drinks alcohol, had sex, and scams locals for a living
>gets to meet and mentor the next pirate king
>still makes everyone shit their pants by his mere presence as an old man
ngl I don't think anyone else has won this hard
Anonymous No.283665936 [Report]
>>283665119
>like honestly, which member of the pre-Time Skip crew could have handled this better?
Franky or Usopp with some gadget.
Anonymous No.283665944 [Report]
>>283665909
It's not good to ruin the fun for others
Anonymous No.283665967 [Report]
>>283665909
There’s a theory that they did that to help the next pirate king or like savior / joyboy
Anonymous No.283665975 [Report]
>>283665930
Heroes.
Anonymous No.283665986 [Report]
>>283665842
I don't know about Sabo, but I'm sure there have been plenty of notable people in the Marines who suddenly died of illness/accidents or would have their very existence denied by Sengoku if he was asked about them.
Anonymous No.283666032 [Report] >>283666045
Anonymous No.283666035 [Report]
>>283665909
I don't think coating ships and being able to swim would help when the entire planet is covered in water.
Anonymous No.283666042 [Report]
>>283665909
Imu's plan has been over since the vc, got pranked by Joy Boy.
Anonymous No.283666045 [Report]
>>283666032
This man knows about IMMUUU. wtf is Imu
Anonymous No.283666067 [Report]
>>283665345
dude looks like a lady
Anonymous No.283666084 [Report] >>283666148
>>283652723
>this guy gets special hazard pay and you don't
Anonymous No.283666093 [Report]
>>283665716
>I bet he even [headcanon]
Anonymous No.283666105 [Report] >>283666161
>>283665716
>I bet he even [canon]
Anonymous No.283666114 [Report] >>283666198
>>283665829
Nah, Logia were fine because you could presume each one has a way to circumvent their intangibility, even if we hadn't seen it for some of them yet.
Anonymous No.283666125 [Report] >>283666304
>>283665816
ok address the other 4 points
either sanji got damaged so bad from the bite that he was no longer able to fight, or he was a massive pussy
Anonymous No.283666148 [Report]
>>283666084
I do enjoy that Jerry looks like Kramer a bit
Anonymous No.283666153 [Report] >>283666250 >>283666299 >>283666300 >>283666549 >>283667207
Roger cried for Rocks but laughed for Joyboy despite it being more tragic
Anonymous No.283666154 [Report]
>>283652716
>I wonder which one is accurate.
99.99% of the time the Stephen Paul translation is the accurate one.
Anonymous No.283666161 [Report]
>>283665716
>>283666105
But enough about Roger.
Anonymous No.283666198 [Report]
>>283666114
>Logia were fine because you could presume each one has a way to circumvent their intangibility
Until the 2nd one Luffy beat (Enel). After that Oda called it quits and just used Haki.
Anonymous No.283666242 [Report]
>>283665567
Wanobabies, kind of like Marineford babies but more obnoxious.
Now just you wait until Eggheadbabies find this place.
Anonymous No.283666250 [Report]
>>283666153
Roger Is younger and more emotional during the fight with Rocks
Anonymous No.283666299 [Report]
>>283666153
Seeing what happened to Rocks up close has a bigger effect not to mention he was a rival to you
Anonymous No.283666300 [Report]
>>283666153
Rocks was a foe he personally knew.
Joyboy and almost everybody else died 800 years ago.
Anonymous No.283666304 [Report] >>283666360
>>283666125
No damage at all, there was no longer need for him to fight.
Anonymous No.283666320 [Report]
>>283654916
This is going to be retconned in a few chapters to be that Garp had a cold that week which is why he needed Sengoku’s help.
Anonymous No.283666360 [Report] >>283666387 >>283666414
>>283666304
>there was no longer a need for him to fight
except with Atlas
and when the giants were getting attacked by Mars

but hey, sanji is the KING of ducking fights, its hard to rag on him for it
Anonymous No.283666387 [Report] >>283666419
>>283666360
This felt so ooc for him
Anonymous No.283666414 [Report]
>>283666360
sanjibros...
Anonymous No.283666419 [Report]
>>283666387
>sanji being a pussy who fails to defend women
>ooc
buddy....
Anonymous No.283666549 [Report]
>>283666153
Rocks died losing everything after being turned into a puppet. Joy Boy set [REDACTED] in motion with his death, just like Roger would start the Great Pirate age. Both Rayleigh and Oden laughed when they read about how he went down.
Anonymous No.283666619 [Report] >>283666655 >>283666668
>>283664818
luffy knocked him out and zoro didnt!
Anonymous No.283666655 [Report] >>283666981 >>283667407 >>283667816
>>283666619
....in my delusional headcanon
Anonymous No.283666668 [Report]
>>283666619
This.
Anonymous No.283666686 [Report]
>>283666666
Anonymous No.283666706 [Report]
>>283655253
He distinguished himself alright. As the biggest fraud this side of the Grand Line. Spent the entire flashback in the fucking mud.
Anonymous No.283666839 [Report]
>>283654916
It's been years, Shiki could have gotten better Haki from having stronger ambitions and could be a match.
Anonymous No.283666887 [Report]
>>283654916
>Btw what did you even do to Rocks?
Anonymous No.283666981 [Report] >>283667098
>>283664818
>>283666655
Imu should have made Lucci a Gorosei, he won't fall apart the second he fights a CoC user
Anonymous No.283667049 [Report]
>>283657280
Most of the times OP fights are a endurance, speed or technique test, honestly this is fine
Anonymous No.283667098 [Report] >>283667428
>>283666981
honestly, he has better durability than a lot of the Gorosei, he wouldnt need regen every time someone attacks him, and with the stats he already has any boost to them would mean he could hold his own against a Yonko reliably, possibly beat one in a fight of attrition or with minimal backup

but have you considered that he was born poor? DISGUSTING!
Anonymous No.283667207 [Report]
>>283666153
>despite it being more tragic
Source?
Anonymous No.283667300 [Report] >>283667402 >>283667452
How the fuck can luffy and loki beat imunko without oda ruining the story further?
Anonymous No.283667336 [Report]
>>283662479
The only alternative was to be forced to kill his own kid.
Anonymous No.283667402 [Report]
>>283667300
It only took him two weeks to learn the super-secret Kaido-defeating technique of "hit him harder"
and then after a single fight on the rooftop he was able to master the ultra hidden technique of "hit him even harder"

so once Luffy figures out all he's got to do to defeat Imu is hit her EVEN HARDER it'll only be a matter of time
Anonymous No.283667407 [Report]
>>283666655
Gear 5 deals psychological damage
Anonymous No.283667428 [Report] >>283667483
>>283667098
> he was born poor
Oh...is there a cure?
Anonymous No.283667452 [Report]
>>283667300
?
Anonymous No.283667483 [Report] >>283667700
>>283667428
>implying new money has any business associating with old money
jannies, hang a green lantern across the bay from his house and cause him to be found shot dead in his pool
Anonymous No.283667700 [Report]
>>283667483
This is the real reason the Yonko aren't allowed to join the WG, they made their own fortune
Anonymous No.283667811 [Report]
Toei really does hate Sanji huh? There was no reason to show him on the floor as Franky saved Bonney.
Anonymous No.283667816 [Report] >>283667880 >>283668263
>>283666655
>not including the panel where Lucci explicitely says "I'm losing consciousness!"
>not including the panel where Lucci roars ready to keep fighting after getting hit by Zoro's named attack
Anonymous No.283667838 [Report] >>283667994
Genuine question for the power scalers who is stronger between Ulti and Perosperos?

They both seem like as close as you get to Sweet commander and All Star
Anonymous No.283667840 [Report]
>>283662207
that's Gill Bastard!!!
Anonymous No.283667880 [Report]
>>283667816
Not to forget he was completely fine just minutes later when they were preparing to leave egghead.
Anonymous No.283667994 [Report] >>283668029
>>283667838
Perospero wasn't a Sweet Commander no?
Anonymous No.283668029 [Report]
>>283667994
No, but some people(not in canon irl) consider him to be as strong as snack if not stronger)
Anonymous No.283668095 [Report]
>>283662436
What about "Rocks has the Ope-Ope no mi"?
Anonymous No.283668189 [Report]
>>283664025
I will take at as "Done by the Ultitard"
Anonymous No.283668263 [Report] >>283668280
>>283667816
losing consciousness =/= lost consciousness
he was totally fine
Anonymous No.283668280 [Report] >>283668356
>>283668263
Neither really beat him I'm not that guy by the way
Anonymous No.283668356 [Report]
>>283668280
>neither beat him
I'm ok with that, just a parallel between equals