>want to propose to my gf
>don’t have enough money for the ring
>but she deserves to have a ring

What do?

>>33190835 (OP)
What's your budget? Lab-growns are nice and a lot more affordable.
Could always upgrade the ring later, or have diamonds added for anniversaries.

>>33190840
Right now I could scrabble together just shy of $7000, and I don’t want to do lab grown or CZ

Save your money

>>33190835 (OP)
It's insane how americans are forced to do that shit. Literal mass-marketing fraud that almost a century old. Just do it the american way and take a loan for it, obviously not doing it isn't an option

>>33192035
Nigger $7k are you kidding me?
Go to a pawn shop or reputable flea fair, spend $2.5k on an art deco antique diamond and gold ring, then spend the rest on a car for her. Way more impressive than a $7k diamond ring from Zales or some shit unless you're dating a straight up shallow bitch no worth your time.

>>33192057
Is 7k a lot or a little? And there’s a very specific ring she wants. I asked her a few months into our dating and she’s definitely forgotten by now, so I’m looking forward to the surprise

>>33190835 (OP)
Save the 7k toward a down payment on a house and give her a $100 ring.

>americans
>in 2025
unbelievable

>>33192184
Already have a house thanks to my parents giving it to me, so really, just want to know about a ring

>>33190835 (OP)
My ex said return the ring and give me the money for a bachelorette party in Nashville

>>33192035
>I don’t want to do lab grown or CZ
so some poor African has to die for your knick-knack?

>>33190835 (OP)
Get a brass curtain ring of just the right size. Seriously, if the heroine of Atlas Shrugged (yes, I know it's mainly kikery) would swap a diamond bracelet for one made of super-train metal, then your gf will be happy with your thoughtfulness despite your poverty. If she isn't then why would you want a meretricious cunt, anyway?

>>33192107
>and she’s definitely forgotten by now
lol, oh anon.

but also yeah, fuck this american shit of having to give thousands of dollars to a company who spent $100 making a ring just to prove that you can piss away thousands of dollars on nothing. The cost of the ring doesn't matter. If it does then she's materialistic and I wouldn't want someone like that.

>>33192996
Yes.

>>33190835 (OP)
put all your money into a slot machine

>>33190835 (OP)
Just buy whatever you can in your budget. Stay the hell away from jewelry stores. She knows how rich you are, she'll understand if she wants to marry you. She can always upgrade anyway. It's just an engagement ring.

>>33192996
>Implying some poor African shouldn't die for a knick-knack that belongs to an actual human being
>Even once
Yes. Yes they do.

>>33194681
>>33195452
You're also getting jewed though, in principle you're as much of a loser in this transaction as the nigger is. Only the (((swarovski))) family wins

>>33192996
Yes

>>33193454
>>33193463
I don’t think any Ayn Rand book is a good model for what I should do. It’s true, my gf would be happy anyways but I want to go the extra mile because every girl has their ideal ring and wedding, it’s engrained into our American brains

>>33195471
What did you do for your gf?

>>33197278
>What did you do for your gf?
we both like hoarding money

>>33190835 (OP)
Ask a machine shop. Get some one of a kind shit.

>>33193454
>(yes, I know it's mainly kikery)
Rand was an even bigger antisemite than you

>>33190835 (OP)
1. Propose and be accepted.
2. Go alone to a reputable jewelry store. Tell clerk your budget (MUCH less than 7k). Make appointment to be back tomorrow to look at selection of rings.
3. Tomorrow bring fiancee. He'll show her a selection of rings with no price tags, but selected from your range. She picks the one she likes. You step aside with salesman to do business.

>>33198013
>Rand was an even bigger antisemite than you
You haven't paid attention, or maybe you're a knowing liar. I read all her fiction and much of her non0fiction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU

There are also glaring lies by omission. How could she write stories set in 1917 Russia, or in New York city, with not one mention of jews?

Ayn Rand was a divide-and-conquer activist, just like the jewish Bolsheviks and jewish feminists.

>>33190835 (OP)
>What do?
Rio Grande Jewelry supply company.
You can buy settings and bare or cut stones at wholesale prices. Then find a local jeweler that is willing to set the stone into the setting you've picked out and ordered from that catalog.

I got my wife a palladium setting, a stone, and some accent stones and then got it all set for under $900 total. No way to tell it apart from one you'd buy in a jewelry store for $5k.

These are items that have little or no resale value regardless, so there's no point in paying retail.

You can get something really nice for cheap on Etsy.

Get an antique ring retard

>>33192053
Its because they have a very strong Jewish influence, and also economic prosperity

A fool will soon be parted from his money, and relative to Jews, the average American is extremely foolish

>>33192035
>Right now I could scrabble together just shy of $7000, and I don’t want to do lab grown or CZ
Are you absolutely fucking retarded? You think your gf wants you to blow three vacations worth of cash on some stupid ring? Think, motherfucker, think! What will she enjoy more, a temporary (!!!!) fucking engagement ring, or a sick honeymoon in the Bahamas?

>>33201231
>or a sick honeymoon in the Bahamas?
Or hell, putting that cash towards a down payment on a house? This idea of blowing thousands of dollars on rings is so fucking retarded, never, ever stay with a woman that puts any stock into this shit.

>>33198552
I am an oldfart. I actually met her. Trust me.

>>33192035
Mf I spent like $500 on an engagement ring. A good woman wont care about the price or how pure the gold is or whatever they care about the fact that you are in love and that is a physical representation of your bond on her finger. Look into local custom jewellers, some can make good shit for way less than the super inflated brand name shit.