All my life I've wanted to write, make stories, and draw comics, but the motivation to actually go through with it has never really been there for me. I've never completed a multichapter in my entire life and I've never been able to draw a single comic let alone draw much of anything for my whole life. I want to be an artist and do something, but I can't ever seem to make anything.

What should I do?

>>33205784 (OP)
This has been discussed here. Search https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/

>>33205784 (OP)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9C_HReR_McQ

Green is not a creative color

>>33205784 (OP)
>I'm not doing the thing
Do the thing.
Draw a single, 3 or 4 panel comic right now and post it in the thread.
You've drawn your first comic.

>>33205887
>>33205910
>>33205991
I'm looking for real advice. I'm looking for a way to stop giving up every time it gets slightly difficult.

>>33205991
I can't make myself do anything. That's the problem.

>>33206063
Fuck you, I saw your deleted post. I gave you real advice.
I just drew my first ever comic in my entire life, where's yours faggot?

>>33206082
I don't know how to draw is the problem. I don't know what I'm doing.

>>33206087
Neither do I, and I did it with a mouse.
Why do you keep making excuses? Where is your comic?

>>33206091
I have no motivation despite wanting to.

>>33206103
I accomplished more in this thread than you have in your entire life. For someone who "wants" to do it, you sure don't want to do it.
Just do it.

>>33206109
I don't know how and I don't have the motivation even on medicine.

>>33206113
Of course you don't know how if you aren't doing it, retard.
Learning happens when you're failing. Learn how to do it right by doing it wrong.
I don't know how to draw a hand, but I kept putting lines on the screen until it looked somewhat correct.
You have the ENTIRE INTERNET at your fingertips for learning resources. The impetus is on you to simply do the thing.

>>33206113
motivation follows action. you have to get into doing the things first

>>33206151
I don't know how to do that.

>>33206129
I can't ever make myself do the thing even on medicine no matter how good I feel, no matter how much I want to.

>>33206207
Where is your comic?

>>33206239
I just told you why I haven't made one.

>>33206243
Make one you lazy faggot.
You won't hit the ball if you don't swing the bat.

>>33206249
I don't have the motivation or energy.

>>33206188
so when you talk to us, and see our responses that we think are explaining "how" to do something, and they didn't work for you... what were you expecting from us, exactly? what is it about our posts that aren't making it clear to you?

Motivation is a larp anon. You just kinda do it

>>33206254
I genuinely wish for your slow and agonizing death.

>>33206258
I don't know how to make myself do anything. My brain feels rotted all the time. I can't do anything.

>>33206278
ok can you type a @ and a O?

>>33206299
What is that supposed to prove? Anything that requires continous effort is something that I can't ever make myself do

>>33206307
it's a first step. instead of thinking of a whole long process instead, this is just very subtle step by step.

Now can you type one of each of those characters and post it?

>>33206316
It's not going to help me. So what's the point?

>>33206324
just substituting something you can do (typing characters) for something you can't do yet (drawing a comic with proficiency)

Now can you type one of each of those characters and post it?

>>33206327
All this is going to do is lead to some empty platitude about
>You did X so now you can do Y!
When that's never worked for me, ever.

>>33206339
i promise each step will be totally discrete and separate from the next. part of this is figuring out which thing it is that becomes the straw that's overwhelming the camels back.

Please type and post an @ and an O

HOWIE THREAD DO NOT ENGAGE

>>33205784 (OP)
I can tell you're more of a visual person. Just give up on writing, because you're made for visual things like art and animation. You should try Source Filmmaker. It's easier than Blender

>>33205784 (OP)
>motivation
Discipline. Sit down and write no matter how much you hate it. That's how you actually make something.

>>33205784 (OP)
So, I dont have experience with comic drawing, but I do have experience with writing. My advice: Write down one thing that comes to mind each day. It can be anything at all. Value and you will create value.

>>33206771
But everything visual looks too complicated for me. Source Filmmaker looks too complex for me.

>>33206771
But people have always told me the opposite. Stick with writing because I'll never be good at anything visual. Which is what seems to have been the case for a while now. But I want to learn something visual.

>>33207207
How do I make myself? I can never actually do anything is the problem.

>>33207720
Try Source Filmmaker

>>33207909
Source Filmmaker looks too complicated for me but I'll try looking at tutorials.

>>33205784 (OP)
Read every day. Write every day. What you write doesn't have to be good. You just need to train yourself to get into the mood to do it. Set aside a time to practice writing or drawing. It doesn't have to be a long time, but you just need to be practicing so it becomes habitual. Start with 10-15 minute intervals. Go find writing advice from writers you admire.

Make shit first then get better. You may say, well how? Drawing and art is obswrvation based. The reason why drawing everyday improves you is because you are improving your attention to detail in how you observe things. If you had a girlfriend who let you draw her everyday you'd notice patterns in her body and fine details that make up her attractiveness. That is how drawing improves you everyday. You improve your hand eye coordination when observing your thoughts and the image in front of you.

>>33208306
I've been writing and role-playing for close to a decade now.

>>33208324
If it is hard to get an idea, you may need to experience or research life more often.

>>33205784 (OP)
make art for the sake of making art. dont worry about being the best or even being good just practice and create things for fun. maybe a reason you cant complete anything is youre very critical of yourself or have some pretenses on what "good" art should be. just value your own art as a fun hobby and a method of self expression.

>>33208388
want to have the entire story planned out before I write it to avoid any sort of plot holes or bad writing. I don't know what I'm doing for the most part and I can't bring myself to focus on writing stuff for the most part either. My ADHD just makes me do random stuff rather than the stuff I want to do.

I don't know how to workout details of a story.

>>33208388
I want to have the entire story planned out before I write it to avoid any sort of plot holes or bad writing. I don't know what I'm doing for the most part and I can't bring myself to focus on writing stuff for the most part either. My ADHD just makes me do random stuff rather than the stuff I want to do.

I don't know how to workout details of a story. And I keep fucking up basic things. I don't know what to do.

>>33208420
I have to be rude to you since I know where this is going, if you are too much of a bitch to follow your dreams putting in the effort of even a simple stick figure then maybe drawing is not your thing. Maybe you have avoidant personality disorder or some form of OCD. Someone with ADHD had this been their passion really would have gone at it not the opposite. If you are not going at it considering your ADHD, you do not like drawing.

>>33208428
Brandon Sanderson wrote 6 books before publishing 1. Those first 5 will never see the light of day because he thinks they are awful.
So basically, who cares if your first book is bad? JUST WRITE. Nothing can be accomplished if you can't get past this first step of actually doing the work. You can't get good until you make mistakes and learn from them.
If it feels so insurmountable, try writing a short story first- 20 pages.

>>33208438
>You don't like doing this hobby you just like the idea of it.
Yeah, I've heard this for literally every single hobby I've ever tried even for non creative hobbies or just anything in general. Nothing has stuck with me. Nothing has worked.

>>33208438
Oh for fuck's sake. Yeah I've heard this a million times for every single hobby I've ever tried. I like the idea of doing anything besides sitting in my room, laying in bed, jerking off and going to sleep or looking at my phone and staring at a wall while barely being able to get out of bed. Am I seriously raising the bar too high? Is that what you're telling me?
Then am I not interested in anything at all? Because this is what it's like for everything that I've ever tried doing even for non creative hobbies or just anything in general.
I have literally tried doing several artistic hobbies and gave up each of them immediately when I was a teenager.
>Gave up on Source Filmmaker
>Gave up on GameMaker
>Gave up on FireAlpaca
>Gave up on Photoshop
>Gave up on writing
I didn't know how any of them worked or what to do. I don't even know basic trig. Even when I look art guides, I literally cannot comprehend them or figure them out. I don't want to be stuck with no creativity or being unable to express myself. This is what it's like for literally everything I try doing. I'm not able to try and keep up with any hobby. Even writing, I do it sporadically and very rarely. Stop giving me this reductionist bullshit.

I'm not here to get attention, I'm not here because I "secretly don't like drawing" I'm here because I want to fucking draw and write, and make something. Now are you going to give me advice or not?

>>33208438
Oh for fuck's sake. Yeah I've heard this a million times for every single hobby I've ever tried. I like the idea of doing anything besides sitting in my room, laying in bed, jerking off and going to sleep or looking at my phone and staring at a wall while barely being able to get out of bed. Am I seriously raising the bar too high? Is that what you're telling me?
Then am I not interested in anything at all? Because this is what it's like for everything that I've ever tried doing even for non creative hobbies or just anything in general.
I have literally tried doing several artistic hobbies and gave up each of them immediately when I was a teenager.
>Gave up on Source Filmmaker
>Gave up on GameMaker
>Gave up on FireAlpaca
>Gave up on Photoshop
>Gave up on writing
I didn't know how any of them worked or what to do. I don't even know basic trig. Even when I look art guides, I literally cannot comprehend them or figure them out. I don't want to be stuck with no creativity or being unable to express myself. This is what it's like for literally everything I try doing. I'm not able to try and keep up with any hobby. Even writing, I do it sporadically and very rarely. Stop giving me this reductionist bullshit.

I'm not here to get attention, I'm not here because I "secretly don't like drawing" I'm here because I want to fucking draw and write, and make something. Now are you going to give me advice or not?

this is why i am not axiomatically opposed to slavery, some people cannot be trusted with any agency

>>33208471
I've never been able to complete a story that long before in my entire life. I've never finished a single multi chapter story, ever.

>>33208619
I thought you never tried Source Filmmaker before?

>>33208695
I never said that. I did try it before. The UI made me too overwhelmed the moment I started it and the tutorials looked too difficult.

>>33208619
>I'm here because I want to fucking draw and write, and make something. Now are you going to give me advice or not?

I'm sorry anon, but it is LITERALLY as simple as "write every day." If you don't build a work ethic and continually practice, you'll never improve. This is exactly the same as learning an instrument, learning a language, exercising, or learning how to play a game.

>but I'm le distracted =(
Set a timer. It can be as little as 5 minutes. WRITE for 5 minutes every day. Increase the timer by a minute every day or every few days. There's nothing else you can do that will magically fix your problem if you don't put in the time or effort to learn the skill.

>>33208777
I've been role-playing almost every day for the past decade. Does that count?

>>33208777
The problem is that everything about every hobby that I've ever tried doing looks too difficult for me and I give up immediately.

>>33208777
What should I do to make myself stop giving up the moment it gets difficult?

>>33206082
kek, pretty cool

>>33205784 (OP)
You learn the local AI from /g/ AND the drawfag or /p/hotography or 3d modeling or 3d printing /diy/ tools from other boards. Or embroidery machines. Or welding. Or woodcuttting. Or flintknapping. Epoxy resin. Lathe. Pottery turntable. Younameit.

Then you do art. Starting from the tool and materials.

And

>>33208844
I read through the thread, I've seen you make this thread before. Tbh you're screwed. You will never be able to draw, write, or do anything that takes even a small amount of effort.

And it's entirely your fault. You give up before you even try to do something, and then you use "lack of motivation" as an excuse. You will never be creative because of your learned helplessness. You will never allow yourself to even try.

Nobody here can help you. You are an adult. The only one who can make you do something is yourself. If you won't even try to put in a small amount of effort into what you want, it's not going to happen. There are no magic words an anon on 4chan can say to make you magically amazing at drawing. If you don't put in the time and effort, you won't learn, and you are clearly not willing to do that.

You have been told many times what to do to learn how to be creative. An anon is not going to magically step through your monitor and draw for you. Even if an anon here where to hold your hand and teach you themselves how to draw, it would still take effort on your part to learn, and you're clearly not willing to put in any effort.

You are your own worst enemy, and if you want to know why you cannot be creative. Look in the mirror. There's your roadblock.

You've already given up, stop posting this same thread asking people for advice you know damn well you're never going to take. As cruel as I might sound, I'm nowhere near as cruel as you are to yourself.

>>33210233
So what do I do?

>>33210233
I literally just did this a few days ago. So are you willing to concede that I'm actually able to try?

>>33210241
Do what every single adult does every single day when they wake up and go to work. Make yourself do it. If you can't, you're screwed.

>>33210250
If you're able to try, then keep trying. Make it a habit. But based on everything you said in this thread, you keep saying that you are incapable of making yourself do things, and if that's the case, you're cooked.

>>33210278
I have ADHD which greatly hinders me from being able to do what I want to, when I want to.

>>33205784 (OP)
Just do it. The first thing you make is going to be shit, and thats okay. That is part of the process.
You then try and see whats wrong with it, get feedback and then try another one.
Thats writing sorted.
Art I have no clue. I imagine you learn the fundamentals, and they will carry to everything else you could ever want to do.

>>33210360
If your adhd is so severe that something as simple as a 5 minute doodle is too difficult for you to do daily, then you need to be in treatment. If you're already in treatment, you might need a higher level of care. Maybe even something in-patient.

My sister suffered from adhd from a very young age, and came from a very abusive household. Despite this she has an art degree. Acknowledging and getting treatment for your disability is a good thing to do. Using it as a crutch is not good.

If you're aware of your adhd, know it's so severe that you can't even function with day to day stuff, you need to advocate for yourself and get the level of care you need to rise above it.

>>33206087
youre obsessing over how you cant "do it" rather than just doing it. preschool kids do it, why cant you do it? just do whatever it is you want to do even if you do it badly. if you dont know what you want to do hten wait till you know what you want to do.

>>33206087
Nigga stickmen is a circle and some lines. You seriously cannot draw that? Are you retarded? My nephew can do that and he was actually dropped on the head as a child...

Based troll spammer, u got 'em good this time

>>33205784 (OP)
Yeah this is the howie fag isnt it

>>33205784 (OP)
Getting started is the hardest part.
Write a 3 sentence story. Draw those 3 sentences in a comic. It doesn't need to be good.
Then the next day, do it again.
At the end of the week, look at what you've made: 7 comics.

You wont wake up one day and make a best seller.
But if you don't start, you WILL wake up in 30 years having never been close.

Join a discord, let others help you out.

>>33206087
NO ONE DOES, UNTIL THEY START.
No one is born a genius.
LOG OFF and start drawing.

>>33208781
You have to do the thing you find to be retarded, not the thing that is cool. You remind me a bit of my older brother who has this trait. Always trying to find the genius way of doing things when doing the simple thing trying every day and learning from it works fine. He ended up having a book shelf of books he never read but were a prop of intellectualism in his house, is very picky about jobs, has everyone on his side even though he keeps on saying they aren't, and he gives the same type of story you do that everyone is too convolutedly useless to your reality. Ahhh, OP you just have to practice you get good from practicing. It's a trial and error thing okay?

>>33210902
>>33210901
I'm trying to do the ball and plane method and I seriously don't know what I'm doing. That's the problem I'm having. All of this looks too complicated.

>>33211099
Howie, continue to flesh it out. Your OCD is kicking in now. Added you need resilience. Boxers who lost constant matches in which they got bloodied wounds still got up and fought again. You do the same with how bad your art turns out. Continue to flesh it out.

>>33211139
I don't know what I'm doing to start with the problem.

Am I doing this correctly?

>>33211213
Yes now continue.

>>33210250
>So are you willing to concede that I'm actually able to try?
No. You've never never shown that you try in relation to advice in the thread. No doubt you have pictures of drawings that didn't work out. But you are oppositional and defiant to trying anything people actually suggest to you in the moment

>>33211316
Because it doesn't work for me.

>>33211501
It doesn't have to. I am definately seeing signs of AVPD, trolling, and OCD. I have a sense you are snickering thinking, "(I am going to get these idiots to learn giving advice is retarded)" Yeah I sense that.

>>33211538
So you're now ignoring that I've been trying in these posts up here?
>>33211213
>>33211099

>>33211556
Unless you continue, putting more effort into it. Pretty much.

>>33211556
why won't you try when people here ask you to do something instead of posting the same pictures?

>>33211501
>doesn't work for me
why are you posting on this advice board if the advice here never works for you?

>>33211538
>>33211556
If this even is a troll, then the dude behind this is not that far removed from the Howie persona anyway. His sheer autistic dedication makes him just as big of a lolcow. It doesn't matter if he's a troll or not.
Anyways there's something consistent among his posts that lead me to believe he's real.


Howie quit it with the boring art fundies and draw something fun. Like a stickman doing something funny.

>>33212705
I need go know the fundamentals in order to make something good.

>>33212874
Draw. A. Stickman. Nigga

You aren’t creative
You are mentally retarded
Your parents didn’t want that diagnosis so they doctor shopped and got them to say ADHD
Or you self diagnosed yourself
Either way you are mentally retarded and not creative
Anything you attempt creatively will suck complete shit
You are an annoying faggot
Happy?

>>33206087
Just do it and things will turn out fine. As long as you put the effort in, you can learn to draw. Talent is just something lazy people say as an excuse for their laziness, as long as you put the effort in you can learn to draw, get better at writing, paneling, etc. There's millions of videos and posts out there to help learn how to draw, but you have to get off your ass and actually do it to improve.

>>33211213
why the hell do you keep focusing on these art fundamentals that make you hate art just draw something for fun

draw bob taking a shit on the toilet or a plane crashing into stickman incels house

>>33213160
also if you really want to grind fundamentals, you should be grinding 3d shapes and their orientation/perspective in space and practicing how well you draw your lines. but, if you only do that and never draw for fun you will obviously hate art.

>>33212890
>>33213160
In order to even draw any of the "silly shit" in the first place, I have to understand how to draw at all. I want to make art that looks fucking good.

>>33213759
>In order to even draw any of the "silly shit" in the first place, I have to understand how to draw at all
No you don't. Draw a stickman

>>33213785
I don't want to draw stick men. I want to draw the shit I want to. All of which requires construction

>>33213785
I want to draw the shit I want to. All of which would require construction.

>>33213019
The problem is that I don't know what the fuck I'm doing the moment I start. I get too confused over everything.

>>33213785
I don't want to draw fucking stick men. I want to draw characters. Faces, diagrams, all this other shit. All of which I would have to use construction for. I don't want to just draw silly shit because that's boring. I want to make something good.

>>33213759
no, you dont. children draw chibis all thetime, children draw comics all the time, CHILDREN do this. you can do it too. JUST DO IT AND STOP THINKING ABOUT IT.

if you dont tihnk children do this, then go to deviantart and sort by newest. are you saying youre worse than you were as a child?

>>33213867
you dont "have" to use construction dumbass. go on line-of-action and draw a bunch of references if you really have that little of an idea of what to draw and you just wana draw realistic figures.
bro, just fucking play vidya and come back to drawing after you get therapy.

>I don't want to just draw silly shit because that's boring.

so you dont enjoy art? all artists generally enjoy doodling whatevers on their mind. all art is silly. youre not fuckin leonardo davinci

>>33213867
think of a pose, draw a stickman for it, fill in details on the stickman of whatever you want until satisfied and then possibly color it or something. its not that fucking complicated.

>>33213867
take the notalentpill and skip to endgame with ai

>>33213906
>you dont "have" to use construction dumbass. go on line-of-action and draw a bunch of references if you really have that little of an idea of what to draw and you just wana draw realistic figures
I need construction to know where to put things first and how to construct a figure. I don't know what else to tell you. I don't know how to do this otherwise.
>bro, just fucking play vidya and come back to drawing after you get therapy.
You mean spend less time drawing, the thing you wanted me to do? I'm tired of playing video games and doing nothing. I want to draw.
>so you dont enjoy art?
I've heard this for every hobby I've ever tried getting into.
>>33213914
It is complicated. I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. I'll try working on some construction or fundamentals, but otherwise, I don't know how to do any of this shit.

>>33213914
and yes, it WILL look like shit at first, probably for atleast a few months to a few years. if you dont simply have fun drawing and improving at drawing then you will not be able ot learn to draw, same for any other hobby.


the problem is that you have OCD about "how" to learn, when there is no proper way to learn. humans have a built in mechanism where when you give it a goal, your brain will find the clearest way to that goal no matter what it is. if your goal is "i cant draw, i will never be able to learn to draw it is to hard" then your brain will make sure that you will never be able to draw no matter how hard you try.

even fucking CHRISCHANS art improved a bit and he is a pants-shitting retard. are you worse than chrischan?

>>33213930
>I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing.

try to draw a chibi and show me :3
>>33213930
I need construction to know where to put things first and how to construct a figure. I don't know what else to tell you. I don't know how to do this otherwise.
no you dont. these are simply guidelines for stuff like anatomy and perspective. you dont NEED them and youre way to focused on the "right" way to do things when you could just draw whenever you felt like it was fun to do.
>You mean spend less time drawing, the thing you wanted me to do? I'm tired of playing video games and doing nothing. I want to draw.

the thing i wanted you to do ? no, i thought you wanted to draw? either way, you will get no where except burnout when youre obsessing over it this way. youll only give yourself OCD, your brain needs rest to properly put things together in your subconscious either way and its good for you to have fun.
>I've heard this for every hobby I've ever tried getting into.

so... why dont you stop obsessing over the image of being something and juts do whatever you find fun? if you find laying in bed fun, then fuckin lay in bed because torturing yourself by doing things you dont want to do just to achieve an image of what you want others to see you as is only gonna make you miserable.
>It is complicated. I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. I'll try working on some construction or fundamentals, but otherwise, I don't know how to do any of this shit

its not that complicated. try to draw a girl or something the best you can. its gonna look like shit and thats fine because the more you try the more you will improve. stop reading stupid fucking art books and DRAW. do you know how they came to the conclusion that construction helps their drawings? they didnt learn to draw by reading loomis, they just FUCKING DREW BECAUSE IT WAS FUN.


anon, you should touch grass and go for a walk unironically. your brain is probably begging you to relax.

>>33213934
>the problem is that you have OCD about "how" to learn, when there is no proper way to learn. humans have a built in mechanism where when you give it a goal, your brain will find the clearest way to that goal no matter what it is. if your goal is "i cant draw, i will never be able to learn to draw it is to hard" then your brain will make sure that you will never be able to draw no matter how hard you try.

Where do I go then to learn how to draw? I can't make myself.

>>33213970
>Where do I go then to learn how to draw?
your desk, with your pencil and paper on it, or your drawing tablet.
>I can't make myself.
what the fuck do you even wanna draw? the reason you cant draw is because you have no idea what you want to draw, youre just obsessed with the status of being an artist.

being an artist isnt even that great everyone sees them as retarded leeches

>>33213962
>you dont NEED them and youre way to focused on the "right" way to do things when you could just draw whenever you felt like it was fun to do.
Because if I don't, I have no way of having a template of where to put everything? I don't know what the fuck I'm doing when it comes to construction and you're not giving me any pointers as to if what I'm doing is correct or not.
>so... why dont you stop obsessing over the image of being something and juts do whatever you find fun?
Yet another empty platitude about how I secretly don't want to draw and just like the idea of it in my head #3323473
It's not going to be true no matter how many times you keep repeating it. I'm miserable just sitting around and doing nothing. I want to draw.
>its not that complicated. try to draw a girl or something the best you can. its gonna look like shit and thats fine because the more you try the more you will improve. stop reading stupid fucking art books and DRAW.
Show me how then. I don't know how to do it.

>>33213974
I want to make stories in a visual medium. All of the stories that I want to make would require a visual medium more than a literary one. It's impossible for me to actually write about any of the ideas I want to write about since they'd all fit something visual. I also want to draw things that I happen to be hyper fixating on. Robots, aliens, mecha, just anything.
I've been trying to learn construction in order to do this. Nothing else matters to me right now. Are you going to give me advice or not?
>B-but commission
No
>B-but ai
No
>B-but make visual novels
No
>b-but make novelization of visual works
No


Give me advice on how to draw.

I even started off on another one of these heads right now.

>>33213981
kjust fuCKING DRAW SOME SHIT U DUMB NIGGER

>>33213993
what are these stories and ideas you even wanna write about can you show me?

make some fucking ms paint scrabbles WHO GIVES A FUCK

>>33214036
I already have an entire weird sci-fi story planned out in my head. Of course I'm not telling you because when I get around to showing it off, everyone will look back and know that it was "Howie's comic".

I already have like 15 chatacter designs in my head that I want to draw. That was the reason I drew that head yesterday, but I couldn't fill in any of the details because I got too confused with it.

>>33213993
Anon if you are trolling and farming (you)s you are just as much of a stellar argument for euthanasia as your Howie persona

>>33214042
JUST FUCKIN DRAW THEM EVEN IF THEY LOOK BAD

DOU THINK THIS RETARD FURRY NIGGER OBSESSED OVER LOOMIS AND PROPER DRAWING TECHNIQUE

NO HE JUST FUCKIN G DREW IT

>>33214050
I don't want to spend my time drawing MSPaint tier dogshit. I want to make something fucking good.

>>33214334
it wont happen. you dont enjoy drawing. give up and jack off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zYL-XylC74

4chan should implement a system where you can't reply on threads until you lurked a certain amount of days.

>>33214355
How about give actual advice? I already showed you that I'm willing to draw multiple times in this thread. People have told me this exact same thing for every single hobby I've ever tried.

>>33214386

1. get a piece of paper
2. get a pencil
3. draw

>>33205784 (OP)
This sounds generic but just do it.
Hang around in places where you can get advices on art or writing (Discord servers are an example, albeit they may vary and not always be good). Try looking at stuff you like and replicating the style and what not. Just do what you want to do in the end.

>>33214470
I just showed you.
>>33214513
The problem is that I'm having trouble

>>33214513
I've been surrounded by artist friends for a long time and I still can't make myself do it. I've even tried Whiteboard on discord but I couldn't make myself do it because I couldn't draw with my fingers. I tried getting advice, but I can't make myself follow through with it.

>>33214513
I've been surrounded by artist friends for a long time and I still can't make myself do it. I've even tried Whiteboard on discord but I couldn't make myself do it because I couldn't draw with my fingers.

What do I do?

>>33206339
Holy fuck you are actively trying to stay a lazy shit. Fuck off

>>33213867
"I want to immediately be good at something without putting in any effort"
kys zoomer

>>33214635
>I just showed you.
you drew a FUCKING CIRCLE

CHILDREN CAN DO MORE THAN THAT

>>33214845
No, I did the entire ball and plane method like how is shown in here >>33211213
I don't know what I'm doing is the problem.

>>33214878
you didnt even try you drew a circle and a square

>>33214889
I read the book, followed it along, and copied it. What else would you like me to do? I don't know what else to do after this.

>>33214897
art isnt about copying fucktard

>>33214905
Then what the fuck are all these responses telling me to copy things?
Are you fucking retarded?

>>33214921
true, i guess your mind is so rotten that you arent even capable of copying and mimickry.

>>33214924
How about giving advice instead of trolling?

>>33214942
because you dont do anything. you juts say you cant do it. you dont even make a half-assed attempt

everyone tells you to put the stupid art books down and just draw and u dont even do that.

>>33214975
You can't even make a half-assed attempt at typing coherently to me either.

I've already told you what my difficulties are. Everything looks too difficult for me.

>>33214994
youll suck forever. youll never be shit. in 10 years you iwll be homeless. SHUT THE FUCK UP. FUCKING DIE. LOSER.

>>33215003
I'll just wait until you can give me actual advice.

>>33206082
Your comic was NOT creative.

>>33215010
youll wait until youre sitting on your deathbed, unable to draw.

>>33215026
How about just giving advice?

>>33214724
Maybe try doing things you're bad at? I've been trying to improve perspective for example, so I did top-down perspective drawing. Try doing things you're bad at first.
Also try promoting your art, there are many sites like Blusky, Toyhouse and Deviantart.
The sky's the limit, keep on trying, I know it may sound cliche, anon, but believe me, I told your issue to my friends. You can do it.

>>33215175
I don't know what I'm good or bad because I'm too confused starting off on literally any drawing to even get that far.

>>33215179
Find something strange. Lurk /x/ for a couple hours. Your aesthetic must exist somewhere, try to search for it

>>33215233
I can't make myself draw period is the problem. I try drawing for a minute or so before just going "eh whatever" and stopping. Like everything else I do. I already have an idea of what I want to draw, but I can't make myself draw. I know what I want to do but I can't make myself do it.

Everything looks too difficult for me and I don't know what to do about it.

>>33215249
Listen it's easy. I'll help you

>"Hi /x/, I was told to come here. Are there paranormal ways to"...

>>33215447
How is that gonna help?

>>33213867
By the way to this
I made a series about MS Paint Stickman and most people except a few of my friends don't care about it, I do this for fun
Think about it, it doesn't have to be complicated, it can be stickman doing random goofs, take raxdflipnote for example. He does silly flipnotes, yet people still enjoy them. Simplicity sometimes is the key.

>>33215179
Then observe your artwork, observe what you have the most difficulty at. Is it colors? Perhaps line art? Perspective? Anatomy? You get my point

>>33216097
I haven't even been able to draw much of anything in order to do that in the first place.

>>33216097
So I don't know what to do.

Trying to draw free handed doesn't work for me either.

Am I doing this correctly?

>>33216606
>>33216728
try and create a character without use of construction, its obviously holding you back. you will learnconstruction naturally when you have more experience.

>>33216770
also you should take a break for a few days and try to get your mind off of it so you can come back with a clean slate.

>>33216728
also you think that this cave nigga obsessed over "doing it correctly" when he drew this cow on a cave wall? no, he was a literal fucking caveman and he drew a realistic looking cow. he didnt give a fuck about guidelines or construction or 3d projection

>>33216774
I've been doing nothing but not drawing for months. I don't need a break.

>>33216770
>try and create a character without use of construction,
I can't do that. I have no idea where anything goes otherwise.

lmaoinf at the fact how Kim jung gi took all of these art fundamentals and was able to utilize them. While Other people can do the same they're not known as much as he was. He believed in his own imagination and studied so much. It feels like today people are just lazy and just don't want to understand how things work, and If you even dare suggest making something up you'll get dog piled on your drawings and told terrible things, even by professionals. I really wish I could've known more about him.

>>33216728
CONTINUE!

>>33216838

>>33216841
Yes! Howie keep going! Flesh it out!

>>33216848
I don't know what to do beyond this.

>>33216848
What do I do?

>>33216886
Your imagination. Think in your head what do you want to draw with these shapes?

>>33216934
How's this?

>>33216938
Okay Howie! Keep going!

I was kinda getting somewhere jannies.

>>33213019
>Talent is just something lazy people say as an excuse for their laziness
Completely wrong. Talent will take you so much farther than hardwork ever will. An example: there was a study observing muscle gain in people doing the same amount of exercise. Some people 1) started off much better naturally 2) got much better results due to genetics. Same is true for even creative fields. Some people just have IT.

>>33210901
>No one is born a genius.
False.

>Von Neumann was a child prodigy who at six years old could divide two eight-digit numbers in his head[24][25] and converse in Ancient Greek.[26]
>By age eight, von Neumann was familiar with differential and integral calculus, and by twelve he had read Borel's La Théorie des Fonctions.[

>>33217061
>>33217079
To make money off of it, I can see it being naturally inclined, but to get decent at it is another thing. Anybody can get decent at art anon. It is what is beyond the making of art, that is where you seperate yourself from all of the rest.

>>33205784 (OP)
Fucking howe threads. Wants something but is unwilling to put in any effort.
You know what, OP? You wanna be an artist or writer or whatever? Use AI. Since you're obviously too pathetic to even attempt a shitty MSPaint comic, you might as well do the only thing you're good at and ask a machine to give you what you want.

>>33217187
I got him to draw an anime head! He was getting somewhere! Then the mod banned him at the wrong moment. I mean shit, had he continued with it, he could have gotten something and then never do another thread proudly.

>>33217207
You do know he keeps a folder of the same photos he uses to shitpost with, right? He's a troll.

>>33217226
Fucking Howie. Snickering at me calling me a retarded faggot because he believes helping others is gay. YEAH GOOD LUCK HOWIE ON DRAWING! Surely when you're struggling with your project final in a cramped dorm room, surely the internet is gay and retarded for wanting to help you get fundamentals, basics, and confidence to get through it!

While you're fucking at it look at how research papers are done in college, THE INTERNET. Shit. I get it you want people off of 4chan, but being a snickering shit who uses up people's times to get their elders to get mad at them isn't the way, you fucking psychopath. Fucking Charisma 10 Intelligence 5 Karma -500 douchebag.

>>33217226
So that's why he insists not to draw a stickman. Oh well, the jig is up nigga. You've been doing this since 2023 every day on different boards on the dot with autistic consistency like it's your day job and you get paid by the hour. The Howie persona is you. You are a genetic dead end. A lethargic nothing with delusions of becoming the next Shakespeare

>>33217747
Okay so what do I do?

>>33218808
follow through on what people in the thread say instead of saying "that doesn't work for me"

>>33219465
How do I make myself? I'm trying to right now and I can't.

>>33219841
why do you think theres a magic sentence that will make you want to draw? you either spend your energy doing things you want to do or you spend your energy arguing with strangers on 4chan

>>33220180
I can't make myself do anything is the problem.

>>33220197
then continue to not do anything and see where it gets you

>>33220197
Your problem is you hate how there are those in need. Think of your child self asking for help how he would feel if no one was there to help him Howie. You think help is gay and retarded? You think not offering a suggestion is not helpful? Bet you're one of those shitheads who treats the dark web like he came from the rough parts of the Bronx and Brooklyn from New York City. Howie what makes you an asshole is that your post very well could have been someone struggling in art school and you could have had help from hentai drawing artists to help you get a good grade, but instead you took the damn opportunity to make a fucking farce out of us. You keep on playing the game the boy who cried wolf, when you really are struggling in art school you are not gonna get help!

>>33220483
>>33220239
Okay but how do I make myself do anything?

>>33220577
You don't have any trouble making yourself waste time arguing over not drawing instead of actually drawing. Why are you so resistant to actually doing the thing you whine about wanting to do?
Imagine how good you would be at drawing if you actually bothered to try drawing instead of whining and making excuses. Just put a bullet in your mouth at this point.

>>33220593
I'm literally trying to follow this tutorial right now. https://youtu.be/2DVbargQCaY?si=OZaGba7br7EHibqb and I still don't know what I'm doing. I stop after 30 seconds because I feel too tired.

>>33220577
Fuck you Howie. A tentacle hentai artist could have helped you with proportions and backgrounds easily, but you lost your damn chance. Now you fucked up drawing and critique and advice. You did so for the reason of being a douchey elitist. Yeah that's why I am using a T2i despite it being a shit camera to /p/ on this site. Because people like you need a damn wake up call that anyone through talent and effort can be of the elite like yourself. Fucking ruined yourself. Made a mockery of your young self just to be a badass like all the other douchebags I encounter. This is sad Howie. What is your damn goal, to be an asshole so that people act defensive to teenagers who visit this site who need help on art? True like your arrogant self would say, teenagers should not be on this site, but your fucking arrogance did not count for the fact that they could have been struggling where you used to be. Some people can not afford the books you have, and some people can barely afford college, and some people are starving artists. You go here being a fucking pinky finger prick calling certain people's here attempt at trying to help you as crap when they honestly cared Howie. Do you want to live in a world where people aren't helped? You say they struggle it out themselves. Yeah bullshit you're in an apartment where you can barely afford rent with your parents taking care of the rest. Have some fucking empathy and be respectful. Yeah 4chan is a trolling site, but sometimes the trolls have a change of heart. Now all I wish on your next howie post is nothing but mockery, because you can not have the maturity to respect that there are those in need.

>>33220593
Gee, it's almost like drawing is delayed gratification and using my phone is instant gratification which makes my ADHD brain prefer it.

>>33206113
>I don't know how and I don't have the motivation

HOWIE THREAD, OP IS A LOST CAUSE AND A UNLOVABLE FAGGOT, ALL WHITES IGNORE

>>33220661
>Contact
>"muh heckin [insert excuse here]"
no excuses faggot

>>33220661
so just keep on shouting into the void, bitching and moaning about not being able to do the thing you want to do. forever. because its just too hard.

Am I doing this right?
>>33220633

>>33221066
now make something that you want to make instead of fundies. who cares if its bad? you can draw it again later and look back at how much youve improved

>>33221184
I feel like I need some kind of construction as a template.

>>33206082
i didn't expect the end this deadass made me smile

I don't know what to do beyond this

>>33223546
Howie's brain: If no one is stopping me, and I'm not autistic, I guess I'll continue, since obviously I am not retarded like everyone else falling for my bait.

>>33223546
yes! keep going! you can do it!

where do you want this person to be and what od youwant them to be doing? what do you imagine they look like?