Yesterday at work I was eating a homemade lunch my wife packed me. One dude says it looks great, asks where I got it. I tell him my wife makes all my meals since she’s a stay-at-home wife.

Then two other guys chime in saying I’m lucky, they only get homemade food maybe twice a week. Both of their wives also stay at home. I ask why. One says they’ve got a 4 and 6-year-old and she doesn’t have time.

I told them I’ve got two kids too, and if my wife just sat around all day and couldn’t even cook something for her own family, I’d be out in a month.

They got pissy, called me abusive.

But really, why would you accept someone who’s too lazy to cook a decent meal for your kids? What’s the point of staying home if you’re not actually doing anything? 2 times a week, really?

Dunno, some people be different n shit.

My coworkers wife broke her wrist putting a dampener on not only output but future culinary output as well. Some dudes get whipped but also not that many Americans really know how to cook like for real real

>>33247705
>Not that many Americans really know how to cook, like for real real.

That may be true, but my wife wasn’t a good cook at first either. She learned. It’s really not that hard. There are countless YouTube videos that walk you through how to make a meal step by step.

Same with me. I was terrible at cooking, but when I started living on my own, I taught myself. It’s way healthier for the kids to eat home-cooked meals instead of store-bought junk.

My kids even help a bit when I cook on weekends. They wash the veggies, help me grab ingredients, and honestly, they love it.

I had an ex that would make sure I came and would like my asshole thoroughly every morning before we left for college
she was good at cooking too but I hated cold food so I never asked me to prepare a lunch for me.
should I consider every other guy that don't get this kind of treatment as low standard guys?
nah.

>>33247787
Nah, but the difference is you’re not out here getting defensive if someone else says they wouldn’t settle for less.

What threw me off wasn’t that these guys only get two or three home-cooked meals a week, that’s their deal. It was how pissy they got when I said I wouldn’t stay in a relationship where the woman stays home and still can’t be bothered to cook something decent for her own kids.

Like, if you’re cool with that setup, fine. But why flip out when someone else expects more?

>>33247644 (OP)
Some people are just pathetic, as long as they get one cooked meal a week, they happy, that's the reason for so many fat people here in America

>>33247644 (OP)
A lot of dudes just settle with relationships where the woman doesn't really love them.

>>33247644 (OP)
guys like that usually have some horrible low standards they need the woman to accept
>won't wash with soap/shampoo
>won't change diapers
>won't eat pussy
>won't cuddle after sex
that lead them to those women

most relationships are not consciously about the two people recognizing what makes them attractive to their partner and what they need to maintain to reach that goal. most relationships are "i don't ever want to work on xyz problems, whose the best option that accepts that?'

>>33247644 (OP)
Your wife has 3 children

>>33247644 (OP)
As in they only make him LUNCH 2-3x a week or only cook 2-3x a week? Lunch sure whatever but dinner is unacceptable

>>33248042
Don't forget he gets fat as FUCK and whines she won't fuck him anymore.

>>33247644 (OP)
>They got pissy, called me abusive.
Jealous and irate. Kek.

>>33248108
Only cooks 2-3 times a week, meaning dinners.
>>33248063
I’m fully involved at home. On weekends, I cook and put the kids to bed. My wife and I take turns bathing them and reading bedtime stories. I'm not one of those dads who thinks his only role is to bring home a paycheck and do nothing else.

Every morning, I get our oldest ready for kindergarten while my wife makes breakfast and packs the lunches. We work as a team. I pull my weight just like she does.

>>33248042
>Won’t wash with soap/shampoo
What? Why?
>Won’t change diapers
Honestly, when our youngest was born, I won’t lie, it took me some time before I could handle changing her diapers. But I got there.
>Won’t eat pussy
Okay, now this is just ridiculous. I don’t get how a guy wouldn’t want to go down on his wife. I love making her moan with my tongue, it's one of the best parts of intimacy.
>Won’t cuddle after sex
Also ridiculous. Like, what’s the point of sex if you’re just going to roll over and ignore her after? I love when my wife lays her head on my chest and we talk about little things. I kiss her head, cuddle and just stay like that.

“I don’t ever want to work on [insert issue], who’s the best partner that’ll just accept that?”
Holy shit, do people actually think like this? Why wouldn’t you want to be better for your partner and your future kids?

>>33248042
>won't eat pussy
Like are some man really that gay?

>>33247644 (OP)
Congratulations, your oh-so-high standards is degrading a woman into being a housewife, mommy and bangmaid for you since no self-respecting woman does that.

Honestly I hope she notices what a tool you are and leaves you kek

>>33248628
What are you even talking about? She’s a NEET. We met because our moms are friends. She’s not some tradwife fantasy I forced into a role, that’s just who she is.

She only goes out when she has to, like taking our oldest to kindergarten, taking our youngest to the park, or hanging out with her mom or sister. Most of the time, she’s at home because that’s where she’s comfortable. I never made her do anything, if anything, I’m the one dragging her outside for date nights or family stuff.

How do you have a whole ass family and still come on here that's fuckin wild

>>33248782
Im on 4chan since 2010, why shouldn't i come here?

>>33247644 (OP)
>Why do some guys have zero standards?
Because they are subhuman. Just accept the fact that most of the two-legged things around you are not fully human.

>>33248108
Maybe because men have (presumably) working brains and can also learn to cook for themselves? Expecting the woman to cook + look after the kids + clean up + have time for herself is retarded.

The best way is to work out a schedule where both partners cook different nights instead of relying on the archaic idea that only women do the cooking, fag.

>>33248775
Damn respect that.

>>33248949
As you can see I do many things around the house but I can't understand that cooking only 3 times max a week, is something to be proud of.
>>33248141

>>33247644 (OP)
Why don't you make your own lunch?

>>33248811
only truthful post op made itt

>>33247644 (OP)
I wish I had a wife.
I wish I had a good girlfriend at least, but every girl I meet fundamentally disgusts me in one way or anothe
I guess I'll always have my dakimakura

>>33249262
Don’t give up, anon. You’ll find someone. And if your mom wants to set you up with someone, go for it.

>>33247644 (OP)
>They got pissy, called me abusive.
Its called cope and seethe. Your wife and life is better than yours. So obviously its because youre an abusive person. Not because they made a bad choice or are less than you.

>>33249139
My wife loves to cook, and since our daughter is a pain to get ready for kindergarten in the morning, we made a deal, she packs my lunch if I handle getting our daughter ready

>>33247644 (OP)

Lol some dudes get abusive to you here, should tell you all you need to know.

Wife at home is a job, especially when there are kids involved. If you suck at your job, you get fired, that's just natural. Okay... It's not really a job so there is more room for leniency, but two meals a week is just bad.

I've been cooking for myself for years, it saves money. I actually cook better than most women I banged. But if they sat on their ass all day at my place, I would expect two meals a day at least. I don't need them to do it, I did fine without them, I just don't want to pay for a parasite leeching off me.

>>33247644 (OP)
No matter what anyone tries to delude you into believing about love being unconditional or everlasting, they're all just blowing smoke up your ass. All relationships are transactional, and people stop valuing them once they realize that the exchange between them and others is so imbalanced that they don't find maintaining it to be worthwhile anymore.
You are getting what you want and in return provide what you want to in order for your relationship to perpetuate. Your coworkers do the same, and have their own criteria for what a good balance is in their relationships. You don't know what their expectations are, or what they get in return.
Comparisons aren't worthwhile to make when you don't know all the factors. If you're content, then that's all that matters.

>>33249441
Exactly, that’s what I’m saying. Yeah, taking care of two kids isn’t easy, but it’s also not that hard to throw something together at home while the kids are occupied. Like, our daughter’s in kindergarten, so it’s just our 2-year-old at home—and he’s super well-behaved, mostly thanks to my wife. She’ll sit in the living room with him and peel potatoes or cut up veggies, toss it all into a multicooker, and that’s it. Cheap, healthy, and no stress. Plus, the kids grow up seeing what real food looks like and learning healthy habits. It's really not that deep unless someone’s just lazy.

>>33247823
Your expecting packed meals was clearly alright by them and a normal topic of conversation. They got upset when you criticized their marriages. That isn't socially acceptable to do.
Imagine it were your wives talking and one of them was sent flowers every day. "I expect that of my husband" is ok to say. "I'd leave if my husband was as inconsiderate as yours" is not.

>>33250190
I wasn’t criticizing their marriage, they were the ones complaining about their wives only cooking twice a week. I just said that if my wife did that, I wouldn’t stay in that kind of relationship. So why, call me names for saying that? Why call me an abusive husband and a misogynist?

>>33248110
>this never happens to women

>>33248628
Men do literally everything better than women EXCEPT for bearing and rearing children. It makes no fucking sense to let a woman do anything but that, unless she's a once-in-a-lifetime genius savant that can quantifiably beat out most men in her field (take a guess how many women like that actually exist.

>>33248141
>>33248949
>On weekends, I cook and put the kids to bed.
>My wife and I take turns bathing them and reading bedtime stories.
>Every morning, I get our oldest ready for kindergarten while my wife makes breakfast and packs the lunches.
>I'm not one of those dads who thinks his only role is to bring home a paycheck and do nothing else.
>I pull my weight just like she does.

>>33250763
What? Are you saying I’m a loser for helping around the house? Those things are super easy. Do you want to know how my sex life is? It’s great.

>>33250832
No, I'm saying you're a loser for treating a woman like your equal and think you have to "pull your weight"
>Do you want to know how my sex life is? It’s great.
Oh wow that sure showed me, I'll remember that when the 21 year old latina I booked for two hours is rimming me and how getting that every week is still cheaper than being an oofy doofy.

>>33250858
>has to pay for sex lol
Not OP, but do you really think you’re flexing or something? Having a family that loves you is way more fulfilling than whatever the hell you're doing

>>33251103
I don't pay for the sex, I pay for them to leave without fucking my life up
>Having a family that loves you is way more fulfilling than whatever the hell you're doing
LMAO your wife doesn't love you, you're just the best she can do *right now*

>>33250858
Everyone in a household has to contribute. Having obligations and responsibilities and having to rely on your spouse to keep a family functioning happily is just normal. You're being pointlessly retarded.
>>33251406
>Lol, all of my relationships have been ones of convenience. Clearly nobody else has ever been in one that's mutually fulfilling.
I know. We're not as retarded or shallow as you.

>>33247644 (OP)

this isn't /adv/, this is a social commentary thread in disguise.

>>33248208
>Holy shit, do people actually think like this?
Just look around you. Going by my workmates I would ask myself: how are people (men and women) dressed and groomed? How is their hygiene? How do they look (fitness, health, teeth, all that stuff)? Yet most are married or in relationships. And it holds true, the few really hot, well dressed women have husbands of an equal level, while the rest has smelly fat orcs.

>>33248949
If her only job istend the kids, clean, and cook then yeah I expect dinner every night and a lunch too. Why do we buy groceries if she doesn't cook or make lunches? What does she do all day?

>>33250706
Happens to both, but fat men also ehine about dead bedrooms

>>33251406
Sorry you were hurt by an ex so bad

>>33249304
u r fat huh

>>33253956
Not really, im 190ibs at 5'11.

>>33253974
not for long if you’re eating that massive sized adult lunchable every day.

>>33253974
>>33253983
Thats BMI 26 he's fat.

>>33253995
I do a little weight lifting so its not all fat, buy yeah i proposing should eat less.

>>33254037
Uhhuh.your easily 2 points above a healthy number and its all muscle because you lift weights sometimes?

>>33254061
Nah, but I think I'm maybe 20%bf.

>>33250667
Now you listen you autistic fuck, you implicitly made them look worse. They already showed envy by complimenting you, when you rubbed it into their noses that their wives are useless they felt one upped and like you backhand insulted them.

Don*t try to empathize with normalfags, I simply describe their retarded thought process, the evil eye and all. I would have said exactly the same and a little extra to make them feel worse because they are such pussies and would compromize on something important like a wife. They are salty because you have balls, they have not. Most people do not feel inspired to be better, the polar opposite is the case, they want to drag you down below their level.

>>33254109
Your overweight then. Dumbass.

>>33254178
This is overweight?

>>33254306
Oh boy, here comes the gay train.

>>33254320
What? You called me fat so I showed you a photo of me to prove that I'm not fat.

Most guys I know are putting up with some real bullshit. The reality is that house work, cooking, washing clothes etc is extremely simple. There exist a million and one devices to make it easier. Women are often professional victims and complainers and need to act like there is some kind of parity of effort for pressing the buttons on a dish washer or taking a washing basket upstairs. This is because they know they have is easy and it is bullshit, but they need to sell the idea that they have it bad and what they do is super valuable. Men don't put it down, they can't be in two places at once and usually they are doing something way more valuable with their time, but even so if forced they'll take care of it without complaint. Women have had a forever of being one way and in the last couple of generations suddenly are supposed to do it all. Drive a car. Get an education. Get a proper job. Have hobbies and interests. Do it all. They aren't equipped for it and most of them fuck up big time trying to do it all. They don't know why they are doing it either. Men know intuitively they are providers and they keep their shit together for the sake of their family. Women think the money is their money. The time is their time. That they are wounded by it all. They have no concept of sacrifice for the sake of family unity. They also value their emotions and complain men aren't emotional like them, forgetting that under difficult circumstances the last thing anyone needs is emotional people. So women think that because they do the bare minimum at work or at home they are suddenly entitled to be kept because otherwise 'what is it all for?'. Whatever.

My partner is as dumb as a rock. I task her with the bare minimum and I still get accused of being abusive or controlling for not hand holding her and endlessly praising her for failing to even handle that with any degree of skill, accuracy or time keeping. The world is fucking fucked, but what are you going to do about it?

>>33247644 (OP)
your standard is literally
>my wife is a dumb stay at home property of mine without job nor education I get to fuck and who does free chores for me

God what kind of loser of a man are you?

>>33250190
this is where /thread the rest was nonsense, you lack politeness and tact and that's it.

>>33254149
OP samefagging so hard on this one lol

>>33247644 (OP)
>I told them I’ve got two kids too, and if my wife just sat around all day and couldn’t even cook something for her own family, I’d be out in a month.
It's not the arrangement/expectation itself but the way you phrased it.
It comes off like you see your wife as an employee you're ready to fire.