As a woman, you often see good men chased by dozens of women tripping over themselves for him, he's the prize and not her, and you are left settling for the ugly men that no other women want.

Any advice on how to get him to become interested in you and stay loyal?

>>33262058 (OP)
>Any advice on how to get him to become interested in you and stay loyal?
You have to be hotter than the other women, obviously. Actually put in effort into working out and eating clean so you have some lean muscle mass and not a bunch of fat. That puts you ahead of 90% of women.

>>33262058 (OP)
kys, shitty bait.

>>33262058 (OP)
>How many good men ended up revealing their true colors and actually were huge monsters all along?
I don't believe that women actually fall for this, their social intelligence is good enough to guess is someone could be a bad person. IMO they just fall for Chads and then once the flame ends their brains rewrite all the story to fit whatever narrative they like.

>>33262058 (OP)
there's good men not being pursued by women at all

>>33262093
Meh, it's mostly that they can see the negative qualities but the high level of attraction is still more important.
It's exactly the same as when guys see a hot goth girl with big tits with BPD and they want to date her anyway.

>>33262103
>Meh, it's mostly that they can see the negative qualities but the high level of attraction is still more important.
That's what I said.
>It's exactly the same as when guys see a hot goth girl with big tits with BPD and they want to date her anyway.
Yeah but do guys take responsibility for thinking with their dicks, or do they pretend that they didn't know that she was BPD all along, and that they fell for her because they thought she was a "good person" and not for her big tits?

>>33262058 (OP)
>they're all chasing this one good dude
>yea, that's why I got this dude trying to manipulate me... ehh... um...

>>33262111
Men and women are wired differently. Men need to be physically attracted to a woman when dating her. For women, physical attraction in a romantic partner is purely a preference.

As for big tiddy goth gf, I mean it's not like men defend men they see dating those types of chicks. But it's all preference. A guy would almost always date a hot crazy girl than a sane ugly girl. Women shouldn't do that because they're not wired to be like that.

>"I want a good man!"
>"but odds of getting one are low"
>"so I am just gonna be ahead of the curve, and give up, heh"
womanbros... PLEASE build more confidence...

>>33262058 (OP)
Replace good man with attractive man.
Then replace attractive man with 8/10+ man.
Then replace ugly men with average men.

Fixed it. You don't care about "good" men or the moral character of men at all. If an attractive guy had bad traits you'd frame it as virtue in your head. When an average guy has good traits you'll frame it as being needy or too nice or feminine.

To answer your question you need to be remarkably more attractive, have better morals, have lower body count, and make his life easier than all the other women. Judging by your question, you absolutely can't do this. Even if you got the dude to use your holes for a night you could never get a proper high value man to be loyal to you even if you tried your heart out.

I'd say "give the average guy a shot" but they don't deserve someone who has called them ugly and treated them like shit for their whole life.

>>33262213
Not falling for your tricks, moid. It's over.

>>33262266
>"I am not falling for your tricks, moid!"
>"You CAN'T make me pursue my happiness!"
I... know...

>>33262218
That's just the basics of women's language. Here's how you should translate that text:
good man = Chad
shitty men = average
huge monster = Chad after some time dating so she can cheat on him with another one

>>33262097
Any man below the 95th percentile in terms physical attractiveness is immediately discounted as a 'bad guy' for the simple reason that they're more than likely to larp as le 'good natured guy' to compensate for their ugly face or short stature. Being in the 95th %ile or above in physical attractiveness only gets you foot at the door of being considered a "good guy", as they've much less reason to fake their character. Even if the ugoo man has a 'naturally' good character, what do I get as a woman in this cut throat world where only looks count first? I don't want my son to be short & ugly or my daughter to suffer from massive acne or have an ugly nose. I'd much rather be a single mother using the sperm of a high iq, tall, handsome chad, as I just can afford to be one thanks to my job, my parents & my family, rather than watching my lineage get tainted by some random ugly nigga who larped as the good & sincere guy. It's simple competition dynamics and you men are the poor suckers who've to learn to suck up even harder. When robot armies becomes a thing, your supposed "Incel Revolution" will be castrated forever.

>>33262391
And when society inevitably collapses back into anarchy women will be subjugated by physical force and order will be restored between the sexes. Incels don't have to do anything other than sit around and accelerate societal collapse. Sure, they'll probably all die when that happens, but in the long term society will return to homeostasis.

>>33262466
NTA, but yeah pal, sure, 2 moar weeks, while folks like jeremy meeks are busy clapping thick ass cheeks. KEK

>>33262466
I do wanna talk to people that posts shit like this in 40 years when they are old and nothing ever happened about their misguided beliefs that any day, anarchy would descend upon us and society has collapsed, whatever that meant to them.

>>33262595
look at pictures of school students from late 90s and compare them with those of today. from almost any western country, US, UK, Germany, Sweden, you name it. that is just 25 years of change, a bit more than one generation. look at the speed at which conflicts break out in the world now. if you think 40 years is too short for the globalised, industrial society to end, you are the retard

>>33262058 (OP)
One tip would be to stop calling every other men the ugly ones that no other women want, but why would you care about that.

>>33262058 (OP)
>Any advice on how to get him to become interested in you and stay loyal?
Unironically, don't, you are an orbiter incel.

>>33262058 (OP)
>chased by dozens of women
>stays loyal

unicorn thread, go

>>33262391
Both genders want to replace the other with robots.
This world is truly fucked.

>>33263101
My autistic ass could only be fixed by a robot.

>>33262391
based EVGENIC FEMINAZI. Ugly, short, subhuman men deserve nothing but ZYKLON-B treatment

>>33262391
That's a whole lot of words to say
>I feel entitled to top end genes even though I don't have them myself
So you're gonna be exploited for them. And then you're gonna never realize it doesn't matter anyway, because everyone else had the same idea as you, so your kid is in the exact same spot you were, except now she's weighed down by the burden of being your daughter.
Sucks to suck, I guess.

>>33263207
I don't think you realize the startegy laid out. Women are the ones playing the game of selection. All a woman has to do is just choose chad & churn out female children because females can't lose the game of genetic survival. it's men who do. What's even more plausible is that the spread/variance of traits will only ever decrease because as more females are allowed to practice this, more is likelihood of having chads & stacey's, not by percentile measure per se, but by absolute measure, but yes even in that situation it'll always be the men who suffer and not the women.
I'm this anon by the way>>33263206
Women of almost all the species have always been the ones winning the game of life and genetic survival. It's only shit like incurable infertility for them or an apocalytpic even like an asteroid or total invasion by some really genetically distant species that preys on it's flesh that can stop females of a given species from winning. Under normal circumstances, females will only dominate whereas males won't

>>33263259
>because females can't lose the game of genetic survival
That doesn't make any sense. The amount of childless women is higher than ever before. How "can they not lose the game of genetic survival"?

>>33262058 (OP)
Pareto principle applies to women too and 80% of white women are genetic dead ends. From the remaining pool, I'd say half don't want to get married and start a family but would rather live it up since they can coast on the high life easily.
All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

>>33263207
men signed themselves up for this>>33263259 m8 and if they don't do something about it, which I suspect they won't by any measure, it'll only keep getting worse. Men would much rather backstab their fellow men if an avg or a below avg woman falsely promises of a monogamoous, trad family rather than waking up to the cruel, darwinistic, machiavellian nature of women and unting with his fellow men to put an end to the gynocracy.

>>33263259
>females can't lose
Except if this were true, we'd have an uneven female/male sex ratio. We don't, because that's not how sexual competition works.
Imagine the opposite. If all the women go to Chad and the majority of them produce female children, the woman that succeeds is the one that produces a Chad herself. The excess of females are forced to compete for access to men who can now decide whose genes are worth passing on. So now, all women are genetically forced towards being more likely to produce males.
For someone enthusiastic about natural selection, you don't actually seem to know how it works on even a basic level. Yes, men predominantly get the short stick because women biologically invest more, but females can and do lose out genetically. That's why the word "spinster" exists. Monogamy arguably exists to give women who can't get Chad someone to invest in them.

>>33263324
retard, that's not how you get 50-50 populace of females & males. kek. look at picrel. Women do win and men do lose, almost all of the time. Women can only be considered as 'losers'(admission by themselves btw) in a system where all men get to reproduce and all women are forced to be tied down with their SMVmatch

>>33263292
getting tons of abortions is technically incurable infertility, just a mental illness instead of a physical one

>>33263292
>The amount of childless women is higher than ever before.
out of voluntary choice thx to retarded brainwashing and poor ability to plan. You can be rest assured that zoomer women are going to be much more cut throat and brutal in their eugenic policies and yes the avg zoomer man will simply be culled and eradicated from the genepool

>>33262058 (OP)
I won't read stupid bait threads.

>>33263552
>You can be rest assured that zoomer women are going to be much more cut throat and brutal in their eugenic policies
So they'll have even less children? And that somehow isn't them getting culled as well?

>>33262058 (OP)

> You often see good men chased by dozens of women tripping over themselves

Fucking when bro lmao

>>33262058 (OP)
We don't love you hoes. I'm out the do', fo' sho'.

>>33265590
She means movie stars, millionaire musicians, politicians, and other celebrities and rich men. By "good man" she means very rich. These whores are so delusional that they think they deserve a millionaire megastar who is singularly and wholly infatuated with only them and drops anything to do whatever dumb shit she wants at the moment. They deserve to feel like shit because that js what they are.

Eh. It's kinda true. Only a few men can make good fathers and the popular ones get chased. Ugly men that can make beta providers are always available so there's not that much of a downside.
>Any advice on how to get him to become interested in you and stay loyal?
He comes from an environment that supports it. Paradoxically, having a religion/cult that enforce it isn't ideal because the first generation that realizes that its rules aren't law mess themselves up most

>>33265740
All the men who are or would make good fathers have 0-3, with 0 being by far the most common. All the lowlife degenerate, violent, substance abusing, can't-hold-a-job, criminal, selfish scumbags have like 5-14 kids with almost as many different mothers, usually dating multiple women at a time. Good men are not in demand. Women want pieces of shit but like to schlick to the idea that they are noble enough to only want a sufficiently elevated man who is above the common rubble. Reality shows that this is not the case and being a good man and a potentially good father actively massively hurts your popularity with women.

>>33262058 (OP)
Have you considered not being hypergamous, and looking in the mirror?

>>33265666
Nah its not money. Women don't actually care about money the way incels think they do. It's all looks. Girls would literally take major concessions on their quality of life to fuck around with a 9/10 bum (which they do very frequently with criminals and drug dealers), than be with an average guy who's rich. Only gold digging whores go exclusively for money and they aren't the norm. By "good man" she means tall and attractive.

>>33262058 (OP)
After dating women and watching their struggles from the outside I can definitively say almost every problem they have with dating is their own fault.

>>33265848
Women seek status. To some women that means money. To others that means an unstable dangerous loser retatd (bad boy). Few women seek good men, but all say they do

>>33262058 (OP)
So by "good men" you mean very attractive
Well since he has so much options, you are going to not just have to be as good looking as him, but you will have to be a very pleasant person also, the kind that he want's to be around all day every day. And look after him well, do his housework, cook for him, suck his dick without complaining ect. You have a lot of competition so you just have to do your best and hope that he picks you

>>33262218
Lol i thought i was gonna come to this shitboard for pussies and lay out some redpill wisdom but apparently I’m not needed
Plenty of comments come from incel antiwoman studies and this makes me so giddy
The age of roasties is over
Slay em brothers, slay the dragon

>>33262391
Hahha i’m loving this board now
It’s so over for roastfucks and simps

>>33262391
This reads as an incel impersonating a whore to stealthily make his own points

>>33263259
what genetic competition are white women dominating right now? their birth rates are down the shitter, when they have kids and husbands they divorce and ruin the poor sap who thought putting up with their cunts of wives would lead them somewhere, and then these women proceed to destroy their own children happily for shlomovision social points
and i'm talking about the already older generations here, the cunts in their 40s 50s 30s, but the new gen is even more "promising":)
influencer culture, onlyfans (hookup culture is yesterday) not to mention depression of course
western women are not winning, anon
their only strategic reaction so far is exemplified by r/femaledatingstrategy: all out war against "low value males" and advanced aggressive ruthless game to use and abuse high value ones (but only 1 in 1000 women can pull that off, hence OP's despair but she wont give up her manhate any way)

>>33262058 (OP)
>Any advice on how to get him to become interested in you and stay loyal?
Don't be fat
Be hot
be cool ( very important)
don't be a cunt ( tons of women fail this)

Seriously , the latter two points aer where you can really distinguish yourself. Won't make up for being ugly though.

>>33269942
You didnt even include the most important quality a woman has which is LOYALTY. The smartest, coolest, most cultured hottest woman ever that will cheat on you eventually is worse than being with a fat dump

>>33263360
Sorry I had to re-read his post and yours 3 times and I still don't get it
There are uneven female/male sex ratios, but those are typically in places like China where the one child policy put pressure on families to produce male heirs, or war killing a lot of men and changing the female/male sex ratio through male attrition. Women do not win most of the time, nor do men lose most of the time, it depends on the time and place, the economic situation, perceptions of stability in the future. It's supremely complicated

>>33269957
Thats a given. Most people are fairly loyal, excluding cuckservative shitholes where people are expected to stick around in relationships they actually hate due to social pressures and the sunk cost fallacy.

The federal government NEEDS to mandate the biggest blackest mandingos to every single white woman. The future of western civilization depends on it.

>>33262466
Accurate