Doing hard things has unironically pulled me out of the worst times of my life. I'm not gonna claim it'll work for everyone but it did 100% for me. I used to basically only pursue comfort, ease, and pleasure but over the years that all just stopped feeling good and put me in a hole, but working out hard, being disciplined with my diet (no matter what), daily cold plunge, actually working at work and just general "face difficulty head on" (and ofc no pmo) has made happier than I could have imagined.

Of course its hard and not easy, almost unbearable to face boredom and pain, but its way better than suffering in self imposed anhedonia, and the more I do it, the easier it becomes, and the more difficulty I willingly take on, the more pleasurable the good stuff becomes; when I actually work hard all day, I legitimately enjoy playing vidya for a bit when I get home, or just scrolling, or eating a simple meal, it all feels good again, and I sleep great.

The whole tryhard le alpha wannabe jocko goggins shit has gotten so trashed on the last few years and im not saying you can't go overboard with it, but im so convinced that weakness is the biggest modern problem; weakness, inability to endure boredom or difficulty, low time preference etc is what is making every miserable. My advice to anyone struggling is to go do hard things, you know what they are.

>inb4 fat people who went to the gym for a week and tried a cold shower once come in and whine that it doesn't work and they need pills

I think you’re right. I had bad eczema and acne, so I avoid hard things because stress worsens them. Now I’m a NEET.

>>33264544
I actually have eczema too lol sunlight helps it the most, also cortisone cream (but only once or twice a week, more than that can apparently be bad for the skin)

also to continue my post above, what I love most about getting used to doing hard things is I now feel in control. I've always wanted to have the best body I could or look the best I possibly can, and now I can actually will myself to achieve that; I've always wanted to be strong, now I am, I always wanted to earn a certain amount or work a certain job, now I can, I always wanted to be able to walk up to any girl I thought was cute and talk to them, now I have the will to do that. When I was in a hole, I convinced myself I didn't actually want those things because getting them seemed so difficult, I didn't even want to bother. self delusion is a bitch eh

knowing you can actually will yourself to do anything you want has got to be the best human condition to be in

>>33264529 (OP)
it's been extremely boring and hard to fill out hundreds and hundreds of applications for a tech job after graduating and not get any response, at what point do you think this makes me better, exactly?

>>33264615
why do you redditors always say stuff like this? "banging my head repeatedly against the wall is hard, will that make me happier hurr durr"

>>33264529 (OP)

fat people can be happy, its a cope but still

>>33264529 (OP)
absolutely right OP. stop complaining about your shit job. you better be thankful to your boss for the opportunity to work in this economy

>>33264947
I absolutely agree with everything but point 7 & 12

>>33264529 (OP)
I don't necessarily disagree, but what's the point of doing hard things for it's own sake? I don't see the point. Taking cold showers is not too hard, and it seems pointless. Not masturbating is pointless if you have it under control and can get work done. Diet, okay, but seems like more pointless minmaxxing if you're not a fatass. And working out, yeah that's good cause you're developing a skill and bettering your mental and physical health.

I've tried to do all the things you listed and I just never stick with them cause I don't see the point in them, and they don't make me feel happy or accomplished. I do workout though but just because it helps with focus and feeling more relaxed (I still struggle with keeping consistent with it thoughbeit)

>>33264947
kek

>>33265131
It is implicit within his post that the point was to bring back the joy he once felt in everyday activities. Once the goal was established, he only needed to put in the effort (seek discomfort) to reach the desired outcome.
>I've tried to do all the things you listed and I just never stick with them cause...
The way you type really gives away that you have a hard time sorting youself out.

>>33265246
I'm already exhausted just reading all of that.
Thank heaven hard workers think like this because I could never.
>>33264529 (OP)
How can I achieve something similar as a NEET who doesn't plan on working any time soon? What are some good ways to fill up the days?

>>33265246
This guys fucking delusional

>>33265131
yeah my point is that doing hard things can make you feel good, but if it doesn't for you then don't do em ig (but i think you're coping)

>>33265337
It's not 'the way I type' if I literally say so, retard.
>>33265337
Okay, my point is that purpose is needed for doing things to 'feel good' and to be driven in the first place. Why take cold showers and refrain from masturbation? if your goal is to be some stoic nofapper, then do that. But otherwise it's pointless. I guess I mainly take issue with those two cause they are retarded self improvement things.

>>33270798
doing something just for the sake of doing it, particularly when that thing is difficult, is literally the pure essence of control and freedom, thats kinda the whole idea behind the "do things regardless of how you feel" stoic thing.

if you let your internal moment-to-moment logic or emotions dictate your actions, you'll come up with excuses to give up on things you want to do or be at the times they become really difficult, but if you get used to suffering through the hardship, you'll become capable of achieving much more and the things you thought were just frivolous dreams become much more of a realistic possibility

people do nofap and cold showers because the ability to will yourself through hard things bleeds over into other stuff, that's the point, does that make sense?