So I know my Boyfriend is cheating on me, I just need the evidence! Yes, I'm a girl coming to this board for advice, so I know you will try to take away my agency and use tricks and tactics like "logic" to try to distract from the issue. I'm hoping there are enough folks here that aren't assholes that are willing to help me.

Anyways all the signs are there. He's working lots of overtime, he'll cancel coming over sometimes after work because he is tired. When we do have sex, he is wanting to try different things now and be more adventurous. He's putting more effort into his appearance than when we even first started dating. He also has been more emotionally distant.

And of course he has an explanation for everything, oh work is brutal right now and he is always tired and that is why he is distant. He's more focused on his appearance to make a good impression at work. He's been wanting to connect more with me and that is why the change to wanting to try different things sexually. I just am not buying any of this. My gut tells me this is bullshit.

The problem is I can't see to get him on anything? I want to fucking bust him and catch him red handed and I need that to really lay into him and break it off, and I'm just not finding the evidence I need. He's doing a damn good job of hiding it. Like when he cancels coming over, he must be using an uber because I've driven by his place and his car is always there. That or his hussie is picking him up. I've looked through his phone and I'm not finding shit there either. He has to have a burner for this. I just need help finding where else to look for evidence! I know there are some really smart people here that have busted there SOs cheating before, so please give me some tips and advice.

fell for the 'weaponized therapyspeak' thread. Won't fall for this one

>>33268797 (OP)
>you will try to take away my agency and use tricks and tactics like "logic" to try to distract from the issue
lol, k

>>33268860
>>33268873
Of course 2 assholes immediately chime in on the first 2 posts. Thanks.

>>33268880
>thanks
No problem :D

>>33268918
>No problem :D
Fucking asshole...

Let me ask you this. Why even be in a relationship if you are just going to cheat on her. What are you getting out of it? She's loyal and committed to you and you are doing this to her, fucking 1 or multiple other girls? This is why we're checking out of dating and relationships. It's just not worth it anymore.

very bad bait, the "logic" part is already obviously what a man would say to depict a woman.
we dont think/accept were not logical, it doesnt even occur to us, bc our emotions completely convince us that whatever comes out of our mouths is very logical in that moment because it feels logical. you dont get it
sry for esl

>>33268955
Ok I didn't really mean it like that, but more the "Oh I'm so fucking logical because I'm a man and you're a woman! Let me explain this to you and talk about the fallacies like post hoc ergo bullshit hoc and Argumentum ad mansplain. Like you are a woman so you can't be logical!"

I even laid out what I am seeing as my evidence. So I am being logical here.

>>33268984
haha nice try, maybe in the next thread
although i think maybe you should go outside instead

>>33268938
50-60% of women employ some form of a dual mating strategy stop crying bitch
if i was your bf id give you a proper 70s slap then fuck the shit out you then ghost you more
put an amazon tracker on his car see what u can find out

>>33269108
trail camera might be useful if it can be hidden well. get the vehicle description then use publicly available intersection camera footage on the city website to track its general location

>>33268797 (OP)
Have you tried being hotter and less annoying?
Life is a competition and you’re the loser
And all you’re thinking of is finding an itoldyouso iknewit?
Loser
She’s hotter than you
She’s more pleasing, nice and easy
But above all she is more sexual
You lost
Nothing you can do about it now, it’s over
You’re Miss Comfy
He only sees you when he has nothing better to do i.e. noone better to fuck
Is that logical enough for you?

>>33269108
Lol they all have a plan B

>>33268797 (OP)
If you actually know he's cheating, you DON'T need evidence. You should simply leave. He always knows he's cheating, so you don't need to prove anything to him, so why does it matter?

>>33269152
and thats why im shocked so many men care about these hoes and playing fair

>>33269259
but that's the whole point
she cant leave
she has to be RIGHT and he WRONG
meanwhile his balls are kept nicely drained by the better hoe

>>33269271
love, loyalty, truth, reason, logic and so many more abstractions are male constructs that make no sense in women's world

You go by his place and his car is there. Is he? Or you just assume someone else is getting him? You can't just trust him? You're going through all this stress and shit because you assume things with no hard evidence. You even have his phone and can't find anything. Maybe you're paranoid. What do you even want advice on? You're stalking the man and not finding the evidence you think you need. Just leave for your own mental health. I mean what the fuck, if it's all this trouble why do you need to "find" another reason? Just go if it bothers you so much. You clearly don't trust him, for actual good reasons or not. Why stay at all at that point? If YOU feel bad in the relationship then fucking leave

>>33268797 (OP)
he might not be cheating but he's for sure ready to move on and leave you by the looks of it.

>>33268797 (OP)
tldr wall of text and I wontt reed itt.

>>33268797 (OP)
He probably wants to appear good and or has a work crush(guy/girl) stop being paranoid.

Go no logic route.

If you can't trust this guy, break up with him. Don't try to find evidence to do scorekeeping or try and expose him or whatever that will also make you look bad. Instead just tell everyone who asks that he cheated on you. He can't prove that he didn't cheat on you so it's his word against yours.

Literally trying to satisfy the male oriented standard of having empirical evidence is stupid and will make everyone, including the anons reading, miserable.

>>33268797 (OP)
You're both fornicators to this sodomite society, the only one you should blame here is yourself. In none of these lines you wrote you always center it around yourself, how you feel. But have you ever tried making him better? Ever tried making making yourself better? Or do you just date to have intercourse?
Even if you do get suspicious your first intuition isn't to distance yourself and leave, rather, you would rather stay with him, pretending you still love him and try to to get revenge.
I am telling you, as honestly as i could, this is what guys would do, distance and cut ties, you still open your legs for someone which you doubt, which is as honourless as it comes.

>>33268797 (OP)
Next time you see his car at his home. Go knock and make it like a surprise have his favourite food and everything. If he isnt home you call and ask him for the location right there and then. If he is home then continue your act. Maybe if he isnt really cheating at least you'll be guilty about yourself.

Now about the signs that you mentioned. Are those the signs from your past experience or you just read it online elsewhere? You might be looking at the wrong place. Maybe he isnt cheating on you but rather going to a place where he can potentially do it. Snoop through his phone. If he has samsung theres a secure folder. If he has an iphone theres hidden app drawer. If its any other android phone look for any app that seems suspicious. If he is that good at hiding then go into setting check which app is most used.

Theres no way you can be much pettier than asking for advice on an anon website. I hope he really isnt cheating. But if he is i hope you did give reasons to do so.

>>33272101
Only based anon here. Death to fornicators.

Ok let me ask this another way. For anyone here that got cheated on, how did you bust them?

>>33268797 (OP)
>Like when he cancels coming over, he must be using an uber because I've driven by his place and his car is always there.
then he's probably at his house. like the other anon said, go and "surprise" him while he's there

>>33268797 (OP)
check his card statements btw

Wanting to 'bust' him instead of simply breaking up on account of his being emotionally distant and not convincing you of his situation is not great for you.

I'd recommend you simply sit down with him after indulging one of the experiments and telling him that you believe that he's cheating and that you don't believe his explanations for why he's distant and looksmaxing.

Either he's actually cheating and you can make a no harm separation because he's not meeting your emotional needs despite you trying to reach out, or you're delusional and will free the guy from having to deal with you.

In either case a straightforward confrontation has you both win with a fraction of the effort. 'Busting' him is a hassle that at best gratifies your ego if he's actually cheating, which isn't as healthy as just ducking out.

>>33272875
She wouldn’t stop talking about him. I could tell she was in love with someone else. Don’t try to win, just end it. There’s no coming back from that.

Following this thread for tips for when I finally hit up the twink at work

>>33272875
Looks like a lot of cheaters out there that don't want them to know their tricks!