Thread 33364056

Don’t take SSRIs unless you want to:
-Be stuck on them forever because withdrawal is brutal and can last years
-Gain 100lbs
-Experience depression 1000x worse than what you have now
-Permanently lose your sex drive
-Lose your mind completely and have your memory destroyed
-Give yourself brain damage
-Damage your liver, kidneys and heart
-Waste years of your life

>>33364056 (OP)
Yeah, but what if I want dead, hollow eyes and the confidence to pick fights with strangers over literally nothing?

I've been on Lexapro(20mg) for 6 years (since I was 12)
>withdrawal is brutal
every time i try to stop taking them i get very depressed
>gain 100lbs
I'm 120lbs (female)
>depression 1000x worse
I actually don't want to kill myself anymore
>Permanently lose your sex drive
I'm hypersexual even ON SSRIs, and its worse off them
>Lose your mind completely and have your memory destroyed
My memory is shit and I am going insane
>brain damage
tbd
>Damage your liver, kidneys, and heart
I have intense heartburn and acid reflux

I think some of the physical repercussions are definitely true but I suspect lots of people who aren't actually depressed but are just reasonably upset over their life situation are prescribed SSRIs and then get fucked up by them for years.

>>33364056 (OP)
They are just alternating a current OP.
>Brain shocks
Fuck off I've been electrocuted.

>>33364161
yeah you’re fucked kiddo. 6 years… since you were 12? Try getting off them and you’ll make heroin withdrawls look like a tropical getaway - mentally, that is.

>>33364161
your suspicion is true. i experienced a lot of depression but i never seriously wanted to take my life until these drugs made life unbearable. i attribute being suicidal directly to the drugs i was told by a doctor would help me.

>>33364056 (OP)
OP, you're spot-on. So many medications have horrific side effects and nightmarish withdrawal symptoms. I realize now that most medication is basically poison. It's all for profit, these companies want you to be taking SSRIs for the rest of your life, each lifelong SSRI addict makes them half a million dollars.

>>33364056 (OP)
Yeah we have decades of western history, statistics, and anecdote to suggest that people get depressed when they aren't fulfilled or aren't where they're supposed to be in life. Chronic depression is environmental, happy pills are there to make sure you just keep doing the same old bullshit every day and don't complain about it. Absolutely grenade your life and cause suicide in people that otherwise wouldn't commit suicide. Chemically addictive in the most literal and destructive way, not many people recover, you have a better chance getting off heroin, opiates, meth, alcoholism, etc. than SSRIs.

>>33364056 (OP)
I tried getting off of 200mg of Zoloft after years and I came in seconds for months until I got back on. Even if I miss one dose my dick doesn’t work until I take it. I don’t know what to do, I’m no longer suicidal but I want to hurt others and I am perpetually angry.

>>33364737
SRRIs are the opiate crisis to our boomer. The only way you'll get off is by not taking it nigga. That's the only way. Commit motherfucker. Commit to yourself.

>>33364056 (OP)
>withdrawal is brutal and can last years
In my experience going cold turkey off Venlafaxine, Just some brain zaps for a couple months, like moving my eyes left to right, audio input to my brain stutters / tiny seizures.
Not that big a deal.

>>33364758
that’s called brain damage anon, you think its healthy or natural to get brain zaps?

>>33364747
Im 24, withdrawals lasted five months

>>33364795
did they stop after 5 or you went back on after 5?

>>33364795
how long did you take them for?

your brain is incredibly plastic age 24.

>>33364805
>>33364813
I was on them in middle school for about a year and was out back on for 2020-2022 at 200mg. The withdrawals never stopped until I got back on

>>33364821
Could that be brain damage?

>>33364879
Idk I don’t think I can have proper serotonin afterwards

>>33364056 (OP)
Is this speaking from personal experience?

>>33365215
yeah this guy is right >>33364813

Chances are you went to a normal baseline and were so accustomed to SSRIs psychologically that you associated normal feeling with withdrawals. Just stop taking them, like for longer than 5 months, like forever

It's fine. If you do the work while on them, they help giving that extra push to fix things.
>been on snri for decades
>fix things
>started going off them last month
>feel fine, no wuthdrawals

>Scapegoating SSRIs for my own life fuck ups
I get it anon, it's hard to take personal responsibility for fucking our life up. Way easier to blame something else like the SSRIs. I still blame my parents for things I do today when in reality the main reason is because I'm just fucking lazy. SSRIs may have resulted in some things for you, but that whole list? Nah bro, a lot of that is just on you

Problem is people expect miracles from them.
You want to fix psycho issues?
There will be sweaty and tears with or without pills. But less with the pills and protection from serious fallbacks.
>>33365428

>>33364056 (OP)
Different people have different reactions to different medications. Making a blanket hyperbolic statement like this is not helpful. SSRIs have helped me and lots of other people at a time that's been critical in their life where they needed some relief and have provided the springboard for legitimate self-improvement. I wish you the very best in your recovery from the maladies that you have outlined, but I hope that in the future you will not project your own experiences outward as commonalities of SSRIs

I was on a giant 300mg dosage of Effexor and I quit cold turkey and nothing bad happened

I can confirm these SSRIs are dangerous. I took them a couple of months and then I stopped. The withdrawal was really bad but after a few weeks and days passing by it got better. My energy level is still fucked up though. I sleep 10+ hours and still feel tired.

>>33364161
Always be weary of anons on this site offering "medical" advice

>>33365451
Yeah dude, it’s totally my fault these drugs completely fucked my brain beyond repair. Definitely not the system that profits from and covers up how dangerous they are.

>>33365478
Nope. I will continue to expose how dangerous and evil these drugs are.

>>33365458
Yeah, these drugs completely destroying my life definitely protected me from… something?

>>33365428
A month is not enough time to experience withdrawals after decades of use. The half life on most ssris is 16 hours and you have decades of them in your system.

>>33364056 (OP)
Will you stop spamming this shit?!

>>33366070
Kept panic attacks in check so I can do stuff.
>>33366071
I've missed dosages many times. After 14 hours it starts, the mind zaps, slow mo vision, deer shadows. You know the next day when something changes in dosage.

>>33366063
>I will continue to spread misinformation based on my biased worldview and personal interactions.
Sad

>>33364056 (OP)
kek
nocebo in full effect
SSRIs don't do jack shit actually
so, yeah, better not taking them. but not for these reasons

stick to a big fat dose of psylocibin mushrooms every few years if you want the real anti-depressive deal

>>33366598
>no! you can’t share your personal experiences with these drugs! only I can do that!

>>33366655
>Things literally nobody said.

>>33364056 (OP)
Fluoxetine saved my life u fck retard!

>>33364056 (OP)
I (male) was on SSRIs (zoloft, then prozac) from the ages of 15 to 22. My dosage would be considered on the low side.
>withdrawal is brutal and can last years
I became intensely paranoid during withdrawals, but when I finally went off of it for good it stabilized after about a week.
>Gain 100lbs
No, I was very skinny throughout.
>Experience depression 1000x worse
This didn’t happen. It made me more mellow.
>Permanently lose your sex drive
I think my sex drive was weakened somewhat while I was on it, but it was still undoubtedly present then and it’s very strong now.
>Lose your mind completely and have your memory destroyed/Brain damage
My memory isn’t very good. Can’t say whether it was the SSRIs.
>liver, kidneys, and heart
I’m not aware of any issues I have there
>Waste years of your life
True. This is my ACTUAL problem with staying on SSRIs for so long. It made me docile and complacent. I would just do the bare minimum and had zero drive to go further. I gathered enough friends to have fun sometimes and never sought romance. I lost interest in reading and just watched mindless seasonal anime. I chose an easy career that was stable and set myself up to be lower-middle class. Those years are just kind of a void in my life where, while I’m glad my depression ended, I did absolutely nothing that I’m proud of and have few fond memories.

>>33366045
Fuck off you piece of shit

>>33367312
thats great, im rlly happy for u. these drugs are evil and extremely dangerous

>>33366059
>Gained 100 pounds
>Yeah dude, its totally my fault
You're right

>>33368403
keep doing satans work and making pharma billionaires rich

>>33364191
I think it's because depression isn't an actual disease but a survival mechanism. Depression is there to downregulate your emotions to protect you from them and makes you lethargic so you don't act on them by getting into more bad situations or causing self harm.
I think SSRIs often just remove the part of the response that's there to not make you go through with suicide.

>>33368440
You’re right, taking pills to avoid your problems is a faulty premise

>>33364056 (OP)
>-Be stuck on them forever because withdrawal is brutal and can last years
I took ssris for like, 4 years? Withdrawal was like 2 weeks of headaches.
>-Gain 100lbs
I didn't gain weight until I quit
>-Experience depression 1000x worse than what you have now
Nah, if it was worse on than it was off I'd be burried by now. It made me pretty apathetic and dulled ALL my emotions, but I kinda needed that at the time.
>-Permanently lose your sex drive
Absofuckingloutely not, I was way too horny back when I was on SSRIs, even worse coming off.
>-Lose your mind completely and have your memory destroyed
I got my shit together and was an honor roll student, then a great employee; my memory is a little fucky from ADHD but it's pretty good most of the time.
>-Give yourself brain damage
Proof? Even if it does it can'y be more than the years of alcoholism that followed me quitting...
>-Damage your liver, kidneys and heart
Same as above.
>-Waste years of your life
Nah, my years on meds were wildly productive. I'm glad I quit and learned to live with my emotions on my own but that took a lot of hard work and time to get to. On meds I was a productivity machine.

Every point in this list is HIGHLY debatable and catastrophizing.

>>33364056 (OP)
Why didn't you smoke pot take shrooms or LSD instead? Cannabis does what an SSRI or Xanax could never do, though if I get too sleepy I might light a cig

>>33364056 (OP)
Why do you take SSRIs when you can just do guided self-treatment at home nowadays, even using something like ChatGPT?

>Step 1) Learn mindfulness
>Step 2) Quiet the narrative in your head
>Step 3) Feel bliss
>Step 4) Confront your trauma
>Step 5) Don't respond
>Step 6) Observe your feelings without responding to them
>Step 7) Step out and take on the world, you are now a human

>>33369287
No access

>>33369334
ChatGPT wasn’t a thing when I started taking SSRIs

>>33369287
Last time I tried a larger dosage of shrooms I had a horrible trip and got visited by demonic voices and I thought about killing my neighbor. I don't know if I want to try again
t. suicidal and mentally ill

>>33367388
Did you take it for depression or anxiety, or both (or something else)? I'm curious as I have a 20mg prescription of Prozac that I filled 6 months ago but never took. It's moreso for my anxiety, but I do get cycles of depression. No panic attacks but my muscles are always very tense, and I'm just sitting at a low-moderate level of anxiety 24/7.

The pharmaceutical industry itself is evil. I mean why cure someone when you can profit off creating more ailments from flawed "treatments". Depression is a natural reaction to something wrong in life. Forcing that feeling away with drugs and not addressing it is highly unnatural. Society is designed to cause misery because there's bigger profit in suffering than you can even begin to imagine at your level of consciousness at the moment.

>>33364161
I have no sympathy for people like this ^
Continuing to harm yourself despite knowing that you're harming yourself is the most disgusting thing ever and I know because I used to be an addict. At one point I was on Lexapro as well. Difference is I quit cold turkey when I realized it was destroying my life. The only things that can ACTUALLY kill you from withdrawals are benzos and alcohol. And I withdrew from alcohol by myself, alone, with zero medical assistance or help. Well, technically I forced my relative to lock me in my basement so I could sweat it out and not leave the house to get liquor. I can tell you that the pain I suffered makes anti depressant "withdrawal" (it's not actually real) look like a stubbed toe. Man the fuck up and stop destroying yourself
>>33364649
Agree with every point except the last. Alcohol and benzo withdrawals LITERALLY kill you. No other substance does. Ssri withdrawals do not actually exist

Is ketamine ok tho

>>33370239
You can get depression when absolutely nothing is wrong in your life because your brain chemistry is fucked. If depression were purely environmental having a family history of depression wouldn't increase your risk, but it does. SSRIs are specifically for the chemical portion of it.

Also, withdrawal is defined by lethality. That a withdrawal won't kill you doesn't make it "not actually real". It just means it's less intense/serious. It'd be like telling someone they didn't actually have the flu because the "real" flu kills you.

>>33370239
You’re a fucking retard. Ssri withdrawal is extremely real. I’ve been dealing with it for a year.

>>33364056 (OP)
psychiatry is 100% made up kike shit for women and reddit cucks. profoundly evil.
>um they worked for me!
if you shill big pharma you're soulless goy catlle.

I've been on SSRIs for decades and suffered no ill effects, you're just a fag

>>33369466
It wasn't when I started solving it without SSRIs either

>>33364161
Congratulations, you're one of the people who is actually so fucked up as to benefit from SSRIs.
However, some doctors will presrcibe them to people who are sad because their dog just died and over causese that could be easily treated with talk therapy alone. Thats the danger of SSRIs.

>>33374106
you wouldn’t know if you did because you have no fucking context to compare it to

>>33374387
Yeah, you're right. Nobody can remember past a few years behind them

>>33374246
fuck you asshole, people don’t deserve to have their lives ruined because they trusted a doctor. this system is bullshit.