How do you convince people once and for all to stop having kids? There's so many good reasons not to but it's like they're not good enough.

just abandon the biological imperative bro that's shit's so last wendy (note: we hip kids wednesday wendy)

>>33368244
>just abandon the biological imperative
Why cherry pick one human need over many others though? The ones having kids don't have the time, resources or care for them to have the most basic needs met for their health. They have kids as a forced consequence of doing something they actually want and enjoy like sex. And people don't even have sex right either.

What’s the point of your life if all your money and experiences are useless once you die? The only real purpose is to have children and leave something behind in this world. The brainwashing of everyone on this site is incredible — it's meaningless for any species and a collective suicide.

>>33368226 (OP)
give them wealth that isn't transmissible and then give them pets

>>33368330
The point of life is to be in good health and otherwise enjoy it. What's the point of bringing in more kids when you can't take care of the ones already here or yourself? Why torture them just so you can say your life had some twisted meaning? You should be having kids because you give a fuck about them and can offer them a good life not just so you can selfishly extend your own life in some way. You're forcing them into a bad situation based on ego. That's an ugly legacy.

>>33368330
Brainwashing complete.

Go tell them this in Africa or the ME. Or is that where you're from?

>>33368405
Are you replying to your own post or?

>>33368350
They still have kids

>>33368402
I don’t give a fuck about your health or happiness — you’re not that important. And again, what does your health matter if you’re going to die anyway, you piece of shit. Loser mentality if you don’t even aspire to be a functional adult with kids and can’t even support yourself. The best part is your mindset will be your downfall, and it’ll die with you. Honestly, I’m glad — people like you are destined to disappear.

>>33368450
I wasn't talking about just my health and happiness I was talking in general. And if these things didn't matter why are people lacking them so measurably inferior? You can't function correctly and you can't enjoy things but you want to extend your life through kids using this same inferior programming. All this seething and coping but you're a sad redundant zombie. Imagine bragging about extending your life to repeat unnecessary failure

>the mindset of health and happiness being important will die with you
Imagine how far gone you have to be to post this kek

>>33368459
I want to transcend, just like it happens in nature with all species. You, on the other hand, want extinction because you think the world is against you. You want a perfect life without doing anything to deserve it. Like I said before, it's better that you keep that mindset — and die with it.

>>33368226 (OP)
give me one good reason, you sound like a depressed slave stripped off human interaction and nature, just goes to show how bad unnatural lifestyles are

>>33368497
Dismissing health and happiness as unimportant isn't transcending anything but stupidity, it's comically regressive. Nobody said anything about perfection but you creatures justify worse conditions for nothing. It's not like a better life isn't possible but when you're talking about having kids who shouldn't even be entitled to good health any sane person could see you'd be better without kids. Imagine how dumb you have to be to think information has a human life span. But you're talking about transcending kek

>>33368226 (OP)
We don’t have a problem with overpopulation we have a problem with dividing resources

Congratulations you’re serving satan and want to destroy the human race

>>33368522
One of your buddies, or (You) for all I know, arguing ITT health and happiness is irrelevant are a perfect example of why people shouldn't have kids.

>>33368538
Do you think having kids is a sad experience? for biochemically healthy humans that is one of the most hormonally rewarding moment

Your body is pre programmed to create more of its kind and thus it rewards you, not fulfilling its desire literally strips you off happiness and also strips off your children with the happiness of living

>>33368530
How are you creatures going to divide resources when you don't care about yourselves or your children and defend worse conditions? Even when the resources are available you don't have the care to divide them. You're talking about me being Satan but you literally have kids just to have them mutilated seconds after spawning in and raped mentally and physically in shitty schools which are basically child prisons acting as daycare for parents who can't be bothered to watch or teach them themselves. You serve your kids up to enemies but you want to talk about planning for children's well-being being satanic.

>>33368559
congratulations, you just realized we’re all born into a battle of good vs evil. The son of God was crucified. The nature of good people on earth is to suffer for higher purpose.

>>33368528
You transcend through your genes, but your suicidal and mediocre mindset keeps you from seeing that you can offer a good life to your own through effort and hard work. Instead, you choose to give up and "suicide" yourself by not having children. But that’s fine — I don’t want a world for my children filled with people who have your loser mentality. Stay inside your four walls and wait for death like a good slave of this society, purposeless and blinded by shallow pleasures.

>>33368549
Generally people don't have time, care or resources for their kids. Maybe they're happy when the kids are first born but there's so much complaining and suffering blamed on the kids. More mouths to feed or another irritation is how kids are treated in practice. Another thing holding people back. That's why they leave their kids with malicious strangers all day and don't want to spend time with them for enjoyment sake OR teaching valuable skills even when they finally do get the time while off work. What part of neglect and guilting is supposed to feel good again? What's the legacy you're trying to leave behind?

>>33368584
Again that's a subjective issue related to modern lives, having 2 or 3 kids at the same time makes them really low maintenance too, it all depends on the conditioning of the parents

>>33368576
Serving children to actual satan or the enemies isn't higher purpose it's typical unnecessary behavior
>>33368578
Kek you think you have superior genes but you think health and happiness don't matter. At least if you killed yourself it would be more honest. You defend excessive suffering and want it passed on to kids because you think that's the only way you get true meaning out of life. You think good health is irrelevant and you own nothing but you think you're a winner. Insane little bitch

>>33368608
>Serving children to actual satan or the enemies isn't higher purpose it's typical unnecessary behavior

That’s literally the purpose of the cross, motherfucker. It’s to demonstrate that God is all powerful and can conquer death.

>>33368601
It's not that subjective to say parents having no time for their kids and failing to even offer them decent food is bad or not how people should live. Putting kids in kiddie prison because you have no fucking time or skills for them is pretty measurably bad, not very subjective or based on opinion.

>>33368226 (OP)
I didn't want kids, my parents failed me so hard that I fear repeating their mistakes to my core. Plus I come from a big family and have double digits in nieces and nephews...

But my fiance is an only child, and she's the most incredible woman I've ever met. Depriving the world of the beauty she could create would be the greatest sin I could commit. We try to be good people and are well on our way to making a sizable income, so any kids we may have stand a fighting chance of living a happy life. I'm actually pretty excited to have a little one after we're married.

>>33368226 (OP)
Somebody has to breed and raise the next generation of goyim nigger cattle. Most normies will happily step up to the plate and wage their life away for a chance to reproduce. I'm just glad that's not me.

>>33368608
If you want to kill yourself, do it! But don’t ask others to do it because they don’t give a shit about you, and your childless life is worthless.

>>33368616
Where does the bible say giving your kids to Satan all day every day was the purpose of the cross?

>>33368644
You’re not even asking a real question

>>33368638
I never talked about suicide or expected a loser nobody like you to care about my own happiness or health, but you don't even care about your own happiness and health. What good is your life with or without children then? You'll just make the kids suffer extra for no reason like you did.

>>33368629
You’re describing the consequences of domestication, not parenthood.

Of course modern slaves locked in artificial boxes, eating plastic food, breathing poisoned air, and working meaningless jobs will raise kids like liabilities because they live like liabilities themselves. You strip humans of tribe, nature, sunlight, and freedom, then act surprised when everything including raising children feels like suffering.

That’s not a failure of having kids. That’s a failure of being human in this system.

Your entire argument is based on what degenerated factory farm animals experience. Of course a cow in a steel cage doesn't enjoy motherhood. Put that cow in a pasture with sunlight and freedom, and she behaves like a completely different animal.

Humans are the same.
You were meant to raise your child in a tribe, surrounded by kin, eating raw food, moving freely, sleeping with the earth, learning from the wild.

The problem isn’t kids.
It’s that you live like cattle and think it’s normal.

>>33368649
I am, you just can't accept kids are given to Satan as a normal thing. Where does the bible mention kids being in satan run schools and on weaponized smartphones all day being the point of the cross?

>>33368666
I’ve never suffered in my life, and I don’t regret anything I’ve done — even mistakes teach you something. But I will never accept being a loser who chooses suicide like you. I will always stand for this species and its preservation. If I can be part of the future, I will. Life is beautiful, and I pity people like you who prefer collective suicide over fighting for a better world.

>>33368687
Satan is the prince of this world. God had to wipe out the nephilim in the flood. Evil overtaking the world to a point of no return is not a fresh concept in Christianity.

>>33368678
People have had the choice to be in sun or nature this whole time and they just chose otherwise. People had the choice to avoid having kids they can't take care of for a list of reasons. Yeah there's limitations but not enough limitations for you to argue the parents don't have blame for failing to plan for or take care of their kids in even the most simple and cheap ways. You just seem like a dumb bitch desu

>>33368705
>I’ve never suffered in my life
Completely detached from reality
>>33368719
Well people having a choice and choosing wrong or evil isn't some fresh concept either. The bible doesn't defend people adding to already existing evil by giving their kids to Satan.

>>33368720
Do you actually think people had a choice?
No, they had propaganda. They were born into a system where every instinct is hijacked by screens, fake food, school indoctrination, porn addiction, fluoride, and wage slavery. You think that’s free will? You’re parroting the illusion of choice sold to domesticated livestock.

“Just go into nature” let me just take a break from wage chaining under flickering fluorescent lights, dodge the cops for trespassing, and forage between concrete towers.
You have no clue what’s natural anymore because you’ve never seen it.

Parents don’t fail because they’re evil. They fail because civilization is a psychological meat grinder. You’re blaming the prisoners for not redecorating their cell correctly.

But keep coping, keep blaming “dumb people” while you keep scrolling your life away, mouth open, blaming symptoms instead of the disease.

Living like a sterilized lab rat is the probelm.

>>33368736
You're the one who wants to disconnect from reality.
I'm the one who wants to transcend.

>>33368738
You're choosing to talk to me right now, obviously everyone has a choice. I dealt with every single thing you just listed. None of that changes the fact you have a choice and choose wrong regularly. Parents fail because they choose wrong. You're exaggerating limitations to remove responsibility for your actions. You can't do whatever you want without consequences just because you were attacked, that's not how it works. The cope is you pretending there's zero choice

>>33368744
Saying you never suffered is a really obvious and sloppy lie

>>33368738
>>33368762
>You’re blaming the prisoners for not redecorating their cell correctly
No I'm blaming the prisoners who add to their suffering unnecessarily for having kids on top of everything. You and the average person can bitch all fucking day about how stressful and shitty life is but you want to still argue about dragging more children into your situation, all while pretending we're at the point where you're in a literal breeding camp where you have no choice.

>>33368762
You're confusing choice with permission.
You're only “choosing” from a list of pre approved behaviors handed to you by a system that hates you. You think you're free because you can pick between 50 brands of poison and 100 ways to distract yourself from the emptiness.

“I dealt with it” doesn’t mean anything. You adapted to slavery and now brag about surviving in a cage like it’s a moral victory.
Parents fail because the entire environment is engineered for failure atomized, infertile, chronically inflamed, dopaminergic trash life with no elders, no tribe, no land, no rites of passage. What part of that resembles natural human existence?

You’re like a lab rat blaming other lab rats for running the wrong direction in a maze built by someone else.

>>33368789
You're still thinking like a domesticated animal with defeatist attitude. You see suffering and think the answer is to shrink, to withdraw, to stop reproducing like it’s some kind of noble restraint.
The world is sick, yeah. So? That’s exactly why strong humans reproduce.
Not to “drag” children into suffering but to outbreed the weakness, to reclaim what’s been lost, to plant something real in the ashes. That’s nature. That’s biology. That’s instinct before it got castrated by philosophy and comfort.

You call it “adding to suffering.” I call it refusing extinction.

You act like we’re dragging kids into a fire. But they’re the ones who carry the fire forward. Without them, it’s not less suffering it's nothing. No continuity. No meaning. Just sterile, safe decay under flickering lights and antidepressants.

>>33368796
>You're confusing choice with permission
You're trying to argue semantics as if it changes the fact you've had the option to breed or be in nature for all these years but people still chose wrong. You're acting like it's impossible when it's not and exaggerating the victim role to dodge responsibility. It's pathetic. You're crying about slavery while defending dragging more people into slavery.

>>33368807
You're not strong though you're so busted you unironically argued like it was impossible to even go out in nature at all for all these years. Not only are you not changing anything but you're making up limitations that aren't there on top of the actual limitations already in place while arguing you should bring more kids here KEK

>>33368808
as if the average person isn’t drugged from birth with seed oils, porn, social conditioning, hormonal collapse, EMF poisoning, and school-induced mental illness.
This isn’t about semantics. It’s about biological truth: Life reproduces—even in slavery. Especially in slavery. You don't stop planting trees because the soil is damaged. You plant them because you don’t want a desert.

Humans going extinct doesn't end suffering, life itself is filled with hardships for all organisms and will continue to exist as long as the world exists.

>>33368834
Again all I experienced everything you listed and was still able to choose better along with others. If these things you listed forced you to have kids you can't care for or never be in nature or sunlight I would have those kids and never have been in the forest. (You) are coping and arguing in favor of putting your kids through extra suffering on top of what's already inflicted by the system. This is why I'm arguing you fuckers shouldn't have kids. You're not changing shit for the better, you're adding to problems and having kids out of ego.

>>33368820
You're the type to sneer from the bleachers while life passes you by, calling it wisdom. You think you're winning by pointing out the rot, but all you’re doing is rotting quietly with it.

And yeah, I will bring kids into this. Not because it’s perfect, but because life doesn’t wait for your approval. Nature doesn’t pause until your standards are met. Weak men want conditions to improve first. Strong men build under pressure.

>>33368226 (OP)
What does it matter to you personally? You're going to die either way. The fate of humanity isn't on your shoulders, so why work yourself up over whether or not the species continues to procreate?

>>33368863
You retards literally argued for adding to the rot by dismissing the importance of happiness and health. You're not building or freeing anyone under pressure you're adding extra pressure and limits while pretending you're transcending. I'm sure the employers will appreciate how little you care about your own spawns life though.
>>33368867
Because I don't want to deal with the worse humans you create while you're alive. Thats the most selfish reason anyway. But even selfishly it's showing more care than their parents probably did.

>>33368863
Lmao you “chose better”? You didn’t choose shit. You just chose nothing no legacy, no future, no responsibility, no fight. That’s not choosing better, that’s giving up and coping with self-righteous moral noise.

>You experienced all that and still had kids
No. That’s called biological drive, retard. That’s life refusing to die just because the world’s ugly. While you sit on your ass acting superior for doing NOTHING.

Avoiding reproduction is just you being too broken or scared to face what life actually is: raw, painful, real, and still worth continuing.

You're not preventing suffering. You’re just another sterile coward trying to drag everyone down to your level of numb, lifeless “correctness.”
You're a symptom of collapse.

>Ego
Ego is the only reason you're even here, typing this pathetic shit after thousands of years of struggle. You’re spitting on that bloodline because your serotonin receptors can’t handle a little adversity.

If you’re too weak to build, then shut the fuck up and get out of the gene pool quietly. Don’t cry about others still having the fire to keep going.

Just looked it up and Chad literally has the highest total fertility rate in the world in 2025 (5.94), lol. That's where you need to start with your convincing, good luck.

>>33368861
>>33368919

>>33368919
Again what the fuck are you fighting for besides worse conditions for the human race? How does arguing happiness and health don't matter while adding limitations like saying you can't go outside make stronger better humans?

>>33368929
>>33368942

>>33368926
If it was chads breeding you would have better looking people

>>33368901
Lmao shut the fuck up. You parrot “happiness” and “health” like a trained NPC, but you're too blind to realize modern definitions of both are complete clownworld distortions.
“Happiness” means sedation. “Health” means sterilization. If you think checking those boxes makes you righteous, you’re already spiritually euthanized.

As if avoiding responsibility, avoiding struggle, avoiding legacy is some enlightened move.

> “You’re not building or freeing anyone”
Really? You think shriveling into sterile comfort and refusing to reproduce is building something?


>muh employers”
lmao, way to reverse the stances, you’re not fighting the system by ghosting your bloodline you are submitting so hard you convinced yourself it’s a revolution. Not having kids literally kills any chances of betterment

You already lost.

>>33368901
>Because I don't want to deal with the worse humans you create while you're alive. Thats the most selfish reason anyway. But even selfishly it's showing more care than their parents probably did.

Fair enough. But clearly you understand that your perspective is in the minority and will remain so for the foreseeable future. So I'm not sure what sense there is in continuing to transfix on the state of affairs?

>>33368960
No I mention happiness and health because it's important and necessary for your body to function as it should. For someone crying about me being suicidal you would think you would care more about it. You can't even offer your kids a normal body as intended but you want to go on about them being your legacy. You're not changing anything for the better when you start off with justifying mistreating your own kids kek

>>33368942
>>33368901
>>33368942
Lmao shut the fuck up. You parrot “happiness” and “health” like a trained NPC, but you're too blind to realize modern definitions of both are complete clownworld distortions.
“Happiness” means sedation. “Health” means sterilization. If you think checking those boxes makes you righteous, you’re already spiritually euthanized.

As if avoiding responsibility, avoiding struggle, avoiding legacy is some enlightened move.

>You’re not building or freeing anyone
Really? You think shriveling into sterile comfort and refusing to reproduce is building something?


>muh employers
lmao, way to reverse the stances, you’re not fighting the system by ghosting your bloodline you are submitting so hard you convinced yourself it’s a revolution. Not having kids literally kills any chances of betterment

If your mindset existed in any prior civilization, you wouldn't be here to type this.
Nobody in history waited for perfect conditions to have kids. They reproduced through plagues, famines, wars, invasions, collapse and that’s why your soft, doom adicted ass even exists.

You already lost.

>>33368979
Lmao, stop going in circles — will you?

>>33368978
Just a few fake people in front of a screen act as idols for millions. It doesn't even matter if the lifestyles are destructive because they still do it. It's been done already

>>33368981
See >>33368979
>>33368992
Stop pretending someone who dismisses health and happiness as important can offer much good to future generations

>>33368994
Okay, but is that something you're working toward achieving? It seems like quarreling with a bunch of nobodies on 4chan is about as from that goal as you can possibly get.

>>33369003
That wasn't even me. Holy kek, my stance was clear having kids was a part of natural, healthy and happy life, I suppose your definition of happiness is different.

Your argument is weak, we can't raise kids properly thus we should stop having them, this is instantly solved when someone can actually raise them properly.

Get better arguments

>>33369005
4chan has eyes from everywhere on it and is namedropped by ecelebs with millions of subs even if the posters themselves aren't anything special. So besides one of the posters possibly having something of value to see it also has a lot of attention on it.

>>33369032
Lmao stop sucking up to yourself, you are no different to anti natalist midwits on plebbit who think too highly of themselves.

>>33368330
Why would i want to leave you faggots something after i die? i ain't bringing no kids to be possibly diddled by some deranged weeb, and constantly preyed upon by retard nation their entire life. Yes, doc, unplug these nuts.

>>33369018
You're either the fag saying happiness and health aren't important or the fag pretending the government made it impossible to touch grass or avoid touching ass and encourage having kids despite considering your own current life slavery. Regardless you're acting like the average breeder isn't currently comfortably failing their kids by leaving them in kiddie jail/daycare and on smartphones where they're getting further mind fucked.

>>33369042
All I pointed out was a fact about the sites popularity, no one asked about your insecurity.

>>33368926
Where is your reply OP? Having children is obviously mostly a nonwhite thing so if you're not a troll or hypocrite why don't you reply to me and agree something must be done to prevent these nonwhite children and that that's obviously what this thread should be about?

>>33369025
If you supposedly love your kids or want some impressive legacy it makes no sense to have kids you can't take care of and who are failed like most other kids.

>>33368226 (OP)
You can't. Human beings are inherently selfish so obviously they're going to keep having children because it's a selfish decision.

>>33369075
See >>33368956
Most people are plain or ugly. Your impotent stormfag malding over population numbers is irrelevant here. The Aryan drug addicted trailer trash or self hating or poc worshipping huwhites and black or hispanic ghetto bitches should all not have kids.

>>33369032
>So besides one of the posters possibly having something of value to say* it also has a lot of attention on it.

>>33369091
But humans can also be guilted or scared into genuinely believing something as dumb as not having a choice to go outside. They also mention love so much but fail to actually show it. There should be something there.

>>33369110
Chad is an African country you retarded amerimutt (actually you're probably pretending). All of what you wrote is irrelevant, you're purposefully ignoring the elephant in the room which is that nonwhites have way more children than whites and almost all efforts should of course therefore be directed at preventing nonwhites, anything else would be hypocrisy.

>>33369164
Africans aren't the only ones having kids or failing their kids. No one cares if you're specifically jealous over non whites breeding. This obviously isn't just about race. In fact it was whites among others that gave assistance to and encouraged other races breeding despite you clearly having a problem with it.

>>33369032
I don't think you truly believe that posting on /adv/ is going to incite massively influential people to start promoting antinatalism.

>>33369185
If you actually were against people having children and didn't just hate whites or like to troll you would have immediately agreed with me what a serious problem their fertility rates are which are multiple times higher than those of whites.

>>33369218
All I replied to was talking about working towards the goal not achieving it the fastest or right away and I explained why I'm posting here. I didn't say influential people would push this, I brought them up because they make tons of people come here.

>>33369219
>if you were legit you would validate my crying about only non whites
No I never made it race specific because it wasn't. Africans technically having more kids doesn't change whites have kids and fail them too. You tried to make it race specific for your own purpose and failed like you probably usually do in life.

>>33369231
I see. Well, some free advice - maybe try try /lit/ or /his/ where people are more likely to have given these ideas some serious consideration.

I assume you're familiar with Thomas Ligotti? On the offchance you're not, I'd recommend his book The Conspiracy Against the Human Race. He makes the case for a species wide self annihilation. It's not the road map you're looking for, but you might find it nourishing to read something written by a kindred soul.

>>33369246
>because it wasn't
Except it is.
>i'm against childre! what no i don't care about nonwhites having multiple times more children while whites are way below replacement level, a self-solving "problem"
Absolutely pathetic hypocrisy. Anyway, when will you kill yourself?

>>33369250
I haven't heard of him but I'll look for the book on the usual site

>>33369263
No it isn't because non whites having children they mistreat doesn't change that whites do it too. You want the focus all on non whites because you're a typical stormfag loser.

>>33369274
Do i have to repeat? They have multiple times more children and whites are way below replacement level, obviously the problem lies with nonwhites. You pretend to be against children and when you're presented with the facts you're just like
>hurr this is racism and racism is le bad
If you didn't hate whites/trolled you'd go to african forums or africa to proselytize which would have the highest chanche of preventing the most children instead of talking to whites

>>33369315
No you don't because what you're saying is irrelevant when whites still have and mistreat kids. That's the actual fact here. Another fact is it's not just whites lurking or posting here, you're severely delusional pretending otherwise.
>I know you were talking in general b-but leave whites out of this specifically because they breed less n shiet
Cry more loser

>>33369332
If you aren't putting in more effort to reach out to nonwhites instead of whites to prevent the most children you're a hypocrite.

>>33369343
>If you don't obey me and leave out whites from your topic to spare my feelings ur a hypocrite
Cry moar

>>33369353
>no argument
I accept your concession yadayada

>>33369366
>go somewhere else and limit what you talk about cus my pussy hurt
Isn't an argument and I said no. Now what? You gonna stay here crying?

>>33369374
No, it makes no sense. You say you want to prevent children but you're not trying to prevent more children.

>>33369377
You're complaining about me including whites in this topic despite it involving them and pretending as if only whites use this site when plenty non whites are here. Using your logic if you're so offended about me including whites in my topic, shouldn't you be arguing with people who are actually specifically openly anti white or otherwise harming whites otherwise YOU'RE the hypocrite? I mean since you apparently care so much about whites specifically.

>>33369398
Also apparently only up to a third of Africans are online at all. Even assuming they all spoke English or understood you you're still not reaching all of them.

>>33369398
I'm complaining about you doing this here on a site with a white poster share much higher than the white share among babies born in the world, presumably in a country with more whites than that and proselytizing to more whites than that whether online or irl an thus preventing less children. I have said nothing racist at all and only pointed out your hypocrisy and even if i was racist i never claimed to be so there is no hypocrisy of claims.
>>33369418
The number you're reaching is the same.

I unironically have to go to bed now, i have to wake up in 4 hours.

>>33369438
Where's the proof only whites come here like you're pretending? Half the user base come from the country known as muttland retard.
>I have said nothing racist
You just got mad about whites being involved in this at all and insisted they be left out specifically just because blacks breed more. If you're arguing that you have to take whatever you're doing to the extreme otherwise you're a hypocrite then you should be taking your own advice and be busy somewhere else instead of replying to me.

>>33368576
sounds like a 13 year old writing a light novel

>>33368226 (OP)
bro i have to tell myself multiple times to pull out and even then im tempted to just blow inside her. shes not on birth control. you're not going to win this battle, the urge to cum inside a woman is far to great

>>33368226 (OP)
Tax incentives.

>>33368769
You focus on a different point because you have no arguments. Keep promoting collective suicide — good luck with that. .|.

>>33368981
thats so right man!

Its funny that this faggot is still getting replies even after getting btfod yesterday

>>33368226 (OP)
>There's so many good reasons not to
None of which will be convincing for someone that actually wants to have kids. Your doomerism doesn't apply for someone who is hopeful and has the desire to reproduce. And then raise children that they love.
>>33368402
You don't understand what a sense of legacy is.