Where the fuck do you find a woman to date and eventually marry and start a family with? I'm 31 and despite my best efforts, I've never been able to find anyone to date. I've put myself out and there and met people, I've been doing so my entire life, but that "connection" just never happened.

I had a few friends growing up but they were all guys, there were zero girls in our social circle. I've been to all sorts of places, participated in all kinds of hobbies, and it just never happened.

Your friends may be men but have you ever asked them about single women they know?

>>33381750
I haven't had any friends since high school. They all vanished after we graduated.

>>33381731 (OP)
>I'm 31 and despite my best efforts, I've never been able to find anyone to date.
Then, honestly, it's time to give up and look for other ways to make your life fulfilling.

>>33381926
I can't because that's not the optimal way to live. Single people don't live as long as people in relationships do.

>>33381942
You don't have a choice, so you either figure it out or commit suicide.

>>33381982
Humans can't live less than optimal lives. Our physical and mental health have to both be 100% perfect in order to live.

You cannot live if your life is deficient in any way.

>>33381995
Cool, commit suicide then.

>>33381982
I'm the only male child, so if I don't reproduce, my family ceases to exist.

>>33381998
I'm trying to take action to fix my problem, you fucking retard. Suicide won't fix my problem or improve my life in any way.

>>33382007
How are you taking action?

>>33382012
By going places and talking to people. It hasn't worked so far.

>>33382015
By yourself? What kind of places? I'm curious since I should do the same

>>33382001
Then get a surrogate or something

>>33382018
If I don't have any friends, then obviously I'm going places alone. I don't have anyone to go with so I don't have a choice.

>>33382019
That costs money, so no. I'm not retarded enough to spend money on shit the average person can get for free.

>>33382032
You think you're gonna have a wife and kids without money?

>>33382026
What places do you visit?

>>33381731 (OP)
You don't have woman friends that would turkey baster?

Lol, do you think you are frustrated bro? Let me tell you my current situation, I need to vent. Last week, I was getting intimate with my girlfriend whom I genuinely thought I'd end up marrying when, right in the middle of it, she said something that ruined everything

"I've only been with one guy before you. It's no one you know, so don't even ask. I was away last winter visiting family in Vermont We got to know each other, and it just kind of happened."

Are you telling me… that I was one fucking winter away from taking her virginity? that's all it would've taken? That everything I thought I was building with her meant nothing, because some nobody in Vermont happened to be nearby when her hormones kicked in? Basically some faceless ugly bastard straight out a NTR manga whose name I will never know. And now I'm supposed to act like that doesn't matter? LMAO

And I'm supposed to pretend I'm "the lucky one" because I get her used up hole after she got dicked down by some maple syrup smelling vermontian faggot in a flannel shirt? Things have been weird between us for a couple of days by know and I think it's pretty much over for us.

I know at least she's semi-new second hand goods with light mileage, but I deserve better than marrying someone else leftovers. I better find an unused hole for marriage before my mid 20's. My dad raised no idiots.

>>33381731 (OP)
I won't read escapees from the how to get women thread or incapable of using the archive. Those failings indicate that OP is too much of a subhuman moron to even get a bitch, whether 2-legged or 4-legged.

>>33381731 (OP)
Yes

>>33382146
Lol , are you a narcissist?
Why does it bother you so much that a penis was inside of her?

>>33381731 (OP)
I'm in the same boat as you except female. I do everything by myself and don't have any friends so I suggest you try looking for women like me:
>go to cafes and restaurants and see who's dining alone: approach them.
>go to movie theaters and try to find a girl that's watching a movie on her own: approach her after the movie.
>go to the grocery store and look for women who aren't buying in bulk, (think just enough of groceries that only one person would need): approach her.
Just approach random women in public since you've exhausted all options. Yeah sure you will definitely face rejection and hear "sorry i have a boyfriend" once or twice but what other option do you have except taking the risk?

>>33384337
Approaching women in public isn't socially acceptable anymore, you can get recorded and have your life ruined

Same man, cept I'm turning 34 this year. It's so over.
I've tried
>dating apps (kek)
>going to the gym, 2 years 3x per week didn't lead to anything
>taking up singing lessons (18 months so far, didn't reveal any opportunities)
>going to jewellery making night classes (all men and boomer women)
>joined another club, all boomers
>other things over the last 15 years I've forgotten about, only ever met boomers

Doesn't help that I don't drink coffee or alcohol, never have. I've come to the conclusion the women of our generation don't have hobbies, no exceptions. Or if they do, it involves drinking, taking photos of themselves or their dog. For example the attractive women I saw at the gym would only go for a few weeks, and spent most of their time looking at and taking photos of themselves in the mirrors on every wall.
Obvioiusly none of my possible futures include romance. Only silver lining I guess is that you can't truly miss what you've never experienced.

Before anyone jumps on me for the alcohol thing, it's because it has no positive effect. Most people talk about some sort of "buzz" or happiness or social lubrication from drinking, I don't get that. Still just socially retarded self and a massive fucking headache a few hours later. That goes for all drugs, they have no positive effects on my retarded brain.

>>33384415
>making excuses
Okay die alone

Yeah idfk i am real curious to know how many 25-30 year old (decent looking) chicks there are that are actually single but just hide in their rooms on facebook or something
I also wanna know how many of them are celebate of at least 6 months or if most of them are getting banged by turbochad every now and then

The only place that might work is either a festival, a church , or get a job at a resturaunt

>>33384658
I don't have that option.

>>33381731 (OP)
Guys just go passport bro. Go to SEA like Philippines or Vietnam and get some girl

>>33384415
It's not even that hard. If you see them reach in their pocket then just say nothing and start walking away.

>>33381731 (OP)
>I'm 31 and despite my best efforts, I've never been able to find anyone to date.
Are you the fella who just sits around waiting for women to approach him and talk tom him, and has never talked to another woman his entire life?

>>33386198
Not him but women don't want below average men to talk to them

>>33386220
because of a scary 15 year old jpeg of a graph you saw on 4chan?

looksmatch my dude, it's not like your parents consist of an ugly troll man and a supermodel woman, they're both sort of average, right? or maybe they're both ugly as sin

>>33386220
As women get older they get more desperate.

>>33386265
men get older too you know. get off that "stacey will be your sloppy seconds when you're in your 40s" mentality.

stacey will marry chad when they're in their 40s.

>>33381731 (OP)
JFC, we get this thread 20 times a week.
Since you are too dumb, lazy, or invested to just read the archives, let me give you the advice.
1) radically change yourself so that you actually engage with other people on a human level
2) Actually go where people interact AND INTERACT. No, you don't do that now or you'd have friends, but you don't.
3) Once you have an active social circle some of the people in that circle will be women. Yes, we know that the three other autistic losers you ate lunch with in HS also didn't have any real friends and didn't know any women, but they were, like you, autistic losers. Being actual friends with actual people is different than those 18 months in your teens.
4) Every minute on 4chan is a minute you aren't fixing this, so log out and go outside

>>33386380
Prepare for the Incel Infinite Regression Response.
The IIRR is the standard replies incels give to all actual good advice.
here is how it works.
let's say an Incel asks
>"How do I get a GF?
and you reply
>"You must talk to women
the IIRR kicks in and they will demand more and more and more precise, narrow, granular responses eventually demanding word-for-word scripts guaranteed to get them a GF in 3 minutes or less and then they will reply
>Oh, well, that doesn't matter. No woman will ever let me do any of that because I am an incel
Then in 2-48 hours they will claim that the only advice ever given to incels is 'be yourself', pretending the time, energy, and information they dismissed out of hand never happened.
Once you learn of the IIRR you can never un-see it.

>>33386380
>1) radically change yourself so that you actually engage with other people on a human level

I already can. That's not the issue. The problem is meeting people in the first place.

>2) Actually go where people interact AND INTERACT. No, you don't do that now or you'd have friends, but you don't.

Yes, I do. Not having friends doesn't mean someone is a shut-in who never goes out. If it was that easy, 61% of the adult population wouldn't be lonely, and friendlessness wouldn't have been on the rise for the past few decades.

>3) Once you have an active social circle some of the people in that circle will be women. Yes, we know that the three other autistic losers you ate lunch with in HS also didn't have any real friends and didn't know any women, but they were, like you, autistic losers. Being actual friends with actual people is different than those 18 months in your teens.

None of my circle were autistic, we were all normal kids.

>4) Every minute on 4chan is a minute you aren't fixing this, so log out and go outside

I go outside every fucking day.

>>33382170
nigger I see you in every thread with these same reply. retarded?

>>33386124
Asian girls are ugly

>>33381942
>I can't because that's not the optimal way to live.
Of course it's not, but that makes no difference. You will never have a girlfriend no matter what you do. Your options are:

1) Keep trying and failing for the rest of your life, never look for any other way to be happy, and end up a miserable, bitter virgin.
or
2) Accept that reality, find other ways to be happy, and end up a happy, fulfilled virgin.

Those are your ONLY options at this point. It's up to you which you choose.

>>33381731 (OP)
You're not being vulnerable enough.

>>33387868
Neither of those are the optimal way for a person to live, so I can't do either. I do things the optimal way or not at all.

If I can't have what I want, I'd rather have nothing.

>>33387868
Sexless people don't live as long as sexually active people, so it literally isn't possible to live without it

If I try to live without, I'll be dead in my 60s and never get to retire. And there's no point in living without a family. My dream when I grow up has always been having a younger generation to pass my knowledge and possessions onto, but I don't reproduce, there is no younger generation.

>>33387816
>I already can
You disproved that when you said you haven't had any friends since HS.
people capable of social interaction HAVE social interaction.
>The problem is meeting people in the first place
To anyone that leaves their house routinely this is a ridiculous statement, like saying 'I can't figure out where in America I can drive my car over 35 mph'.
>Not having friends doesn't mean someone is a shut-in who never goes out
I said AND INTERACT you idiot.
>. If it was that easy, 61% of the adult population wouldn't be lonely
Good thing that number is a lie, huh?
Overall only a small fraction of people are consistently lonely, and even in the most lonely populations it isn't even close to a majority
>https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/news-releases/new-apa-poll-one-in-three-americans-feels-lonely-e
Next you'll ytell me you;re so gullible you think 50% of all marriages end in divorce!
>we were all normal kids
'normal kids' where none of you had GFs or even female friends?
Pull the other one
Take your reddit spacing and hopeless, demoralized ass and go away

>>33387890
This shit again?
Nuns and Priests have lifespans above average and better than average health, too.
This is for all religions with celibate religious

>>33387816
bro thinks that when people tell him "go outside" it means just going outside and standing there, or going to work

>>33387940
>Nuns and Priests have lifespans above average and better than average health, too.
NTA but those people don't have to live in the real world and work real jobs, living stress-free is a nice luxury

>>33384295
Because she just lost her virginity to a random. Not even a "well might as well!" Or with someone she actually knew. A one nighy stand purely to be a whore.

>>33386398
Well no shit. This is why I hate moralfags. You gave a hyper vauge, basic bitch answer and then get upset you have to go in to actual detail on what it means and how to go about it. Even more so is when you do go in to detail (which is also still pretty vauge and shallow) it's something they have already done to no success that majort of people, and more than likely you, haven't actually done or would be caught dead doing because you KNOW it's not socially acceptable and had a low to zero chance of working.

>>33387946
>Priests in Nigeria being attacked by Muslim terrorists, the Buddhists priest being hunted by Commies, and the nuns working without A/C, decent food, or comforts in the slums of India working 15 hour days tending the sick and dying? LUXURY!
You're so trucking sheltered I bet you were a rescue

>>33381731 (OP)
The only people I've dated have been through work or, when I was younger, school. Those all wound up being complete disasters, so not recommend.

I hate to say it, but you might want to try dating apps. All the couples I know who are either married or in longterm relationships met through Tinder. For all the flack it gets, I suppose it allows you to seek other people with compatible goals.

>>33381797
Should have worked on this first

>>33387971
lolololol
You just other words to tell everyone in this thread you've never had a serious male friend, you have never had a female friend, the mere idea of going to a open event party terrifies you, and you spend more time on 4chan asking about "cold approach" than you do at the gym or grocery.
I mean, you already admitted here
>>33387816
that you START by blowing off any advice.
I knew anon was wsating his time when he gave you dead-simple advice that any mentally healthy guy could follow blindfolded.
because the issue is always, ALWAYS, that incels are too crazy to function.
If you had been raised *perfectly*
.and many of you were
it wouldn't matter.
No amount of clothing, grooming, scripting, and so on can help you because in the end every fucking incel decides to not have a relationship.
Yes, decides.
Give you your zip code and I'll prove it.

>>33387996
No, no. He already explained here
>>33387816
that he is PErFECT.
He is very, VERY good at engaging with people, being a good, empathetic friend, and holding a good conversation with anyone.
the problem is, you see, that unlike 98% of all other men when he goes places THE WOMEN HIDE!
Why doesn't he have any male friends?
I guess all the men hide, too.

>>33381731 (OP)
OK, how many women have you talked to outside of work in the last month?

>>33387987
Tinder does not work. I get few matches and the ones I do get never respond.

>>33388004
31705. There is fucking nothing here, I've been to everything this piece of shit city has to offer.

>>33387941
Well no shit. You are just telling them a vauge non answer with no actual substance. You aren't telling him HOW or any sort of direction. If you wanted to lose weight and someone told you to stop eating what does that mean literally or figuratively? No shit OP is gonna fight back because you aren't giving them anything that makes sense and is open to their own thoughts than actual facts.

Anywho OP here is some non gay answers that hopefully will work.

It seems like your issue is you don't have a social circle that goes out and does things. You need to get one, but how do you do that? If you have social media try looking for local groups of your interests and see if they do meet ups or events. Meetup.com is a good one if you hate social media in general. Go to the event and start talking to people, and if you find you are vibing with the group then keep going and you'll make friends. Eventually they (or maybe you!) Will invite you to stuff outside of the regular met up or other social groups and you'll start to really bond with them who will then introduce you to women for you to talk too. Or if there are women in the group you may end up connecting with them.

Yes this isn't going to be a instant or fast process so do try to calm down but that's about your only option right now.

>>33382001
Might not b a bad thing

>>33388046
Dude, Meetup.com has been dead for years, and was never useful for anything other than big cities.

Nobody who shills this site has actually used it in the past few years.

>look on meetup.com
>all online shit

See the problem here?

>>33388052
Idk where OP lives and of he does live in a big city then TA DA not a problem.

>>33387981
yeah and also sometimes government contractors or just regular people working somewhere also get blown up by terrorists or work in the shit mines without AC

the average religious figure is either sitting around doing nothing except for reading and praying (which is fun for them) OR they're counting money flowing into their megachurch supertemple giggamosque synagogue5000

>>33388059
You can filter out the only online stuff nigger.

>>33388065
When you filter out the online stuff, there's nothing. That's how fucking dead this city is, there is no social scene here

>>33388072
bruh
https://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=nightlife&find_loc=Albany%2C+GA

>in b4 "I don't drink I don't dance I only pull up my pants"

>>33388072
Like I said, you can also go on Facebook and see if there are any local groups as well.

There are also public discord groups as well that may do meet up events as well. You could try that.

Also look up your local community centers and public libraries. They usually do events as well. Mine does weekly movies, book clubs and even monthly DnD and board game days.

If none of that stuff works you could try eventbrite which also has local and further events you could go too, though they are usually paid ones. At that point you will have to probably cold approach people or do something to stand out.

If none of those work see if your local bars or churches do triva night or something.

If that doesn't work then you're either sol or gay like most the people have been calling you but I'm giving you thr benefit of the doubt because I had the same issue and know how much the struggle is and how shitty adv is.

>>33388089
I literally can't drink because alcohol doesn't mix with the antihistamines I'm on. And I can't do nightlife because of my work schedule, I'm at work until; 8:00 PM

>>33388128
>I'm at work until; 8:00 PM
you go to bed at 9?

>>33388089
Social spots that DON'T involve alcohol or music please. Alcohol tastes like fucking shit, and I'm not a music person

>>33388164
First off you don't need to drink and do drugs. Second;
>I'm not a music person
The fuck does that even mean? You don't listen to music?

>>33388179
I lack the ear for music, it's all just background noise to me. It's not something I actively listen to.

>>33388164
>I'm not a music person
>>33388187
>I lack the ear for music, it's all just background noise to me.
are the visual arts also offensive to you...?

like what even are your hobbies my space alien dude

>>33387932
>Good thing that number is a lie, huh?

No it's not. Even the US Surgeon General pointed out the loneliness epidemic.

>>33388043
Wait, wait, wait, wait, WAIT!
You live in diriving distance of the Redneck Riviera and claim you have no place to meet women?!
YOU LYING FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!
On any fucking Saturday morning you could get in your car and drive 2-3 hours to a beach crawling with teens, 20-somethings, 30-somethings, and cougars all there to get drunk and get fucked but 'you never, ever meet women'.
Go fuck yourself, you lying fuck.
Never mind that between eventbright, meetup, and the Facebook "Living Single in Albany, GA" I found 5 speed dating/single/ social events in Albany itself in the next 4 weeks.
You're a shitty liar, you dumbfuck

>>33387971
>>>33388046
>vauge
it is VAGUE you illiterate fuckwit

OP
>I need to meet someone
Also OP
>>33388164
>I can't do anything involving alcohol or music
or women, apparantly

>>33388456
>6 year old survey
>reported being lonely IN THE LAST YEAR at least once
Less than 10% of Gen Z reports being lonely at least once a week in 2024, less that 35% lonely at least once a month

>>33381731 (OP)

Sounds like you are doing almost everything right, and what you said you’re doing is what I was going to recommend, by that I mean engaging in activities and trying to meet women with mutual interest s.

The only other thing I can advise is some spiritual stuff that absolutely seems like nonsense on a surface level. Let go of your desire, free yourself from attachment, and embrace the paradox of the universe that love will find you once you stop looking for it and find complete abundance within yourself. Love yourself unconditionally and set yourself on such a magnificent life path journey that you are filled with contentment. At that point, the truth is that you will become exponentially more attractive to potential partners, and they will be innately drawn to you in order to join you on your journey.

Although this is very abstract, I genuinely believe it is a better state of mind to be in than one of scarcity and lacking, where you feel like you are missing something, and you will not be complete until you find someone. Women are very odd in that they have a 6th sense, so if they get even the slightest hint of neediness or desperation, their biological instincts will repel them from you.

You have been trying to meet women in standard “hobby” settings, perhaps try casting a wider net by going out and socializing more, trying to meet as many people as people. Don’t view this as transactional, all you have to do is be a cool guy with good vibes and maybe you will meet a great person that way.

>>33381731 (OP)
Yes

>>33381731 (OP)
Toilet

>>33381731 (OP)
Yea

>>33381731 (OP)
Yes

>>33388164
I think I know why you never found a lady friend you sound like an autistic alien

>>33381731 (OP)
Passport.

>>33398314
Some people don't care for alcohol or music, that's normal.

>>33387868
NTA but why are you so radical? How can you be so sure he will never find anyone?

>>33398399
It's straight up not normal not to like music. It's such a primal instinct to like the beat of a drum that you have to be an ayylmao.

>>33400062
What is normal? Are gays normal? Trannies? Blacks? Reconcile that answer logically if you can.

Youre only willing to make this judgement when you think its socially acceptable to do so, because you are a coward

>>33400086
BEEP BOOP DOES NOT COMPUTE. PLEASE ADJUST ARGUMENT TO CONFINES OF RACIST LOGIC.
BEEP BOOP FEMALE BIO-UNIT STILL DOES NOT LIKE ME.

>>33400086
yes gays and blacks and listening to music are normal. trannys are weird. attitudes on alcohol can go either way but for young people in the West yes it's normal

hope this helps

>>33388059
>How to Improve Your Social Life
>Online event
The irony

>>33386398
You have to understand that a lot of us simply never learned how to interact with women. I wish it were as simple as interacting with a dog.

>>33381731 (OP)
You need a larger and more consistent social circle with females in it, and the will to seek connections. It's harder after 30, though you still have some time to find loyal mid, make her your wife and keep her pregnant for the next 5 years.

Here's the plan - clean yourself up next Sunday, put on a button up shirt and some slacks, then walk through the doors of an LDS church, when they ask you say, "I'm here to find community in Christ through the Latter Day Saints." All you gotta do is read some kooky stuff, say, "I'm on board with that" and you have an instant community of based trads that'll do everything they can to get you sorted with a stable job and a young wife yearning for your seed.

Btw LOL at anyone suggesting the meetup thing. I spent the first six months of the year doing that and let me tell you it's ALWAYS a sausage fest because guess what? Millions of other guys already had the same idea of going there to *socialise* (meet women). The few attractive women who do go to these things usually have an entourage of guys trying to talk to them and most aren't even interested because they have dozens of better men messaging them on Instagram or Hinge at any given time. I do recommend people go to these things though because it's a good eye-opener and does at least help you practise talking to strangers.

>>33387877
>Neither of those are the optimal way for a person to live
That doesn't change the fact that those are your only two options. Railing about it just means you're choosing option 1.

>>33387890
>Sexless people don't live as long as sexually active people, so it literally isn't possible to live without it
Complete bullshit. But even if it weren't bullshit, that still wouldn't change the fact that the guy will never have a girlfriend. His only choices are to accept that, or be miserable about it.

>>33400022
>NTA but why are you so radical? How can you be so sure he will never find anyone?
Experience of a great many people like him.

>>33381731 (OP)
you have to find them when they're young and mold them into a wife. get an 18 year old girlfriend not a 30+ year old, they're too far gone

>>33400748
>Experience of a great many people like him
I'm 26, I had a girlfriend but we broke up recently so I don't think I was attractive enough for her. How do I know whether or not I'm bound to be alone forever?

>>33387890
>Sexless people don't live as long as sexually active people, so it literally isn't possible to live without it
completely false, lmao

Nice

>>33384337
>once or twice
137 and counting
funny you always expect men to approach you in $currentYear without doing literally anything for it to happen

>>33388164
>Alcohol tastes like fucking shit
Alcohol is a solvent and as such is very very good at retaining flavors, way more than water
basically what I mean is you never had a good drink
I don't drink beer nor wine nor any shit normies use to get drunk, but I make my own liquors and those things are amazing