To clarify I'm not an incel.
I managed to have few long term relationships through my life and have no intention of doing hookups or one night stands.

Reasons why I don't want to keep on having relationships (at least for some time):
>they come to you with the same problem such as migraine and literally expect you to shove medicine down their throat because (like children) they don't want it
>they do not realize that their diet is shit and that is why they feel miserable most of the time
>they behave like children and have to have it their way instead of admitting their fault, ever
>they are costly because they want drinks (such as starbucks) for a ridiculous amount of money and literal plushie toys (women past 18 years old btw) and while it's not an issue every once in a while they expect it a lot of times or they'll think you don't care about them
>they lose interest in you when you have personal issues and need help
>they do not want a clear solution to their problems that they come to you with every 2-3 days and instead they just want you to sit there and say "oh that sucks" and if you do try to help then they'll blame you for not wanting to hear them out
>grew up around women who were noisy and their squeaky screaming was some of the worst earrape my ears have ever witnessed
>lost the love of my life and hardly any woman is interesting to me, my confidence has gone up but interest in the usual women significantly down and while I am able to get most of the women none of them are remotely interesting
Anyone else went through this? Is there a point to relationships?

I won’t read incel whining

>>33385407
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>33385382 (OP)
I WILL read this post.
...
I read this post.

>>33385382 (OP)
Those all sound rather specific.
But ngl a lot of women are like that, especially low-quality immature ones.
It's trial-and-error, All you can really do is meet lots of women, dump them and move on and try another until you get lucky and find one that's not a dud.
Some women can be fixed but it's a process that doesn't take overnight and they have to want to change and given new opportunities. I.e. a woman who grew up in a poor white trash family goes to college and gets a good job so she wants to change so she can fit in with more functional higher-class people.

>>33385382 (OP)
>>they come to you with the same problem such as migraine and literally expect you to shove medicine down their throat because (like children) they don't want it
i have literally never experienced this

>>they do not realize that their diet is shit and that is why they feel miserable most of the time
>>they behave like children and have to have it their way instead of admitting their fault, ever
>>they are costly because they want drinks (such as starbucks) for a ridiculous amount of money and literal plushie toys (women past 18 years old btw) and while it's not an issue every once in a while they expect it a lot of times or they'll think you don't care about them
>>they lose interest in you when you have personal issues and need help
none of these different from how men act and aren't a reason to specifically hate women

>>they do not want a clear solution to their problems that they come to you with every 2-3 days and instead they just want you to sit there and say "oh that sucks" and if you do try to help then they'll blame you for not wanting to hear them out
this is true and irritating, the only valid complaint you made

>>grew up around women who were noisy and their squeaky screaming was some of the worst earrape my ears have ever witnessed
lots of things make annoying loud sounds, dolphins make annoying sounds, no reason to hate them.

>>lost the love of my life and hardly any woman is interesting to me, my confidence has gone up but interest in the usual women significantly down and while I am able to get most of the women none of them are remotely interesting
you're free to have a preference but none of your own issues are a reason to hate women

>>33385450
>none of these different from how men act and aren't a reason to specifically hate women
Yes but I specifically look for a female partner and I couldn't care less about irresponsible and childish adults that are male who won't be an important part of my life.

>lots of things make annoying loud sounds, dolphins make annoying sounds, no reason to hate them.
Women aren't "things" and they purposefully try to get to you by not knowing when to stfu. I also do not hang out around annoying sound making things such as dolphins.

>>33385382 (OP)
>t. I_wonder_who's_behind_this_post_merchant.gif
I won't read yet another umpteen-millionth I hate women thread. I'm beginning to think these are a Hasbara/psyop meme.

>>33387900
Okay. Well, thanks for the bump.

>>33387789
You choose to care about them. Oh the consequences of your actions.

>they purposefully try to get to you by not knowing when to stfu
You should have known better to be around loud, talkative women all the time. Have you considered that the current women you attract/attracted to are reflections of the same type of women you were around growing up?

>>33385382 (OP)
Women generally act childlike in relationships, but I think it's a learned behavior. The male ego loves feeling dominant and authoritative, so playing parent to an immature chick is theoretically them giving you want you want.

>>33385382 (OP)
I have yet to meet an actual mature adult female who fails to realize their diet is shit and waste money on fast food and plushies.

Are you young? This just sounds like something a young woman would do.

>>33385382 (OP)
>they behave like children
you're posting wojaks on 4chan

>they are costly because they want drinks (such as starbucks) for a ridiculous amount of money and literal plushie toys (women past 18 years old btw) and while it's not an issue every once in a while they expect it a lot of times or they'll think you don't care about them
are they disabled? why don't they have their own money to buy starbucks and whatever else with

anyways, didn't really read the rest of your blog. Something about how women being noisy sometimes is literal ear rape. You sound like an even bigger woman than the women you hate.

>>33385382 (OP)
You are angry that women are not men. You don’t like women behaving like women and would rather them become males but with tits.

>>33388180
also
>lost the love of my life

You didn’t. Love of your life = the woman who buries you when you are an old man and pass away. The one who you actually stick with in the end, thats who that is. It’s not your fickle ex-girlfriend you dated in your teens or early twenties. So don’t call whoever it was who dumped you the ‘love of your life’. They aint in your life anymore. That aint love.

>>33388180
This. You sound kinda gay, OP. Emotionally at least. Maybe try some male companionship and see how it goes.

>>33385382 (OP)
I think the opposite of love is hate

>>33388122
"Crunchy" women.
They're mostly white

>>33387992
>Have you considered that the current women you attract/attracted to are reflections of the same type of women you were around growing up?
It is partly true but I have not looked for noisy women. I'm repulsed by them. As the time passes they turn into someone like that.

>>33388122
Yeah early 20s

>>33388147
>you're posting wojaks on 4chan
Your point being?

>are they disabled? why don't they have their own money to buy starbucks and whatever else with
Because men are meant to provide and they are happy when you buy them shit

>You sound like an even bigger woman than the women you hate.
Had a good laugh ty

>>33388180
Yeah except I've had contact with women who acted mature. I don't need them to be men but emotionally mature and not children.

>>33385441
Perhaps the only true advice on this thread, thanks.

>>33385407
fpbp

>>33385441
>especially low-quality immature ones.
That's the fucking vast majority

>>33385450
A woman wrote this

I guess you always pick the same kind of woman, and that's the reason why you always struggle with the same issues o-o (or even they pick you)...

Archetype research could help you to bypass this invisible wall.

>>33385382 (OP)
Nice

>>33385382 (OP)
When you decide to hate women, let me know.

>>33392840
So far I'm just an asshole to them and they seem to dig it. Maybe because I'm hot and white but the point stands.

>>33385382 (OP)
Yeah im in the same boat losing the love of your life will do that to you ,it’s been 2 years since I lost her and I feel nothing but indifference towards any woman that speaks to me I doubt I will ever date again

>>33393946
What I've heard is that fucking other women helps a lot. It makes your brain realize that you've moved on, it helps psychologically if you're up for it.

>>33385382 (OP)
Yes

>>33385382 (OP)
>>they come to you with the same problem such as migraine and literally expect you to shove medicine down their throat because (like children) they don't want it
this is weirdly specific

>>33385382 (OP)
Yes

too much dealing with women, depression. too little dealing with women, also depression.
try to get your fix and when you feel sated, stay away as much as possible, rinse repeat. that would be my advice. alternatively, marry a mute woman. now that i think about it, that would probably be paradise, wouldn't it?

>>33385430
You WILL reread this post

>>33385382 (OP)
>they come to you with the same problem such as migraine
Women are literally children. Most don't develop past the mental age of 14. You have to come to terms with that. This one isn't really a big deal desu.
>they do not realize that their diet is shit and that is why they feel miserable most of the time
This is all in the type of woman you're dating. There are plenty of fit women and gym sluts. This one is your fault.
>they behave like children and have to have it their way instead of admitting their fault, ever
Again, women are literally children. It's our job as men to be 80% father and like 20% lover. It's just part of the deal bro.
>>they are costly because they want drinks (such as starbucks) for a ridiculous amount of money and literal plushie toys (women past 18 years old btw) and while it's not an issue every once in a while they expect it a lot of times or they'll think you don't care about them
Again, this is the *type* of woman you're attracting. Don't like the women you attract? Change yourself and be the man that attracts those other women. This one also comes back to YOU.
>they lose interest in you when you have personal issues and need help
They probably never really liked you that much to begin with if the slightest hint of issues causes this But also: you can't share emotional or really deep problems with them unfortunately. You can't "be worried" about something. They lose respect and start to worry themselves because *YOU* are supposed to be the rock of strength. Share the truly deep shit with other men or your family. She's gotta be a real woman and above average to handle that. And even then...you still don't wanna go too deep because then she'll worry. With some things...you gotta go to men.

>>33385382 (OP)
>>33402879

CONT'D
>they do not want a clear solution to their problems that they come to you with every 2-3 days and instead they just want you to sit there and say "oh that sucks" and if you do try to help then they'll blame you for not wanting to hear them out
It's because they're emotional and are venting. Simple. You can express: "Hey, I care but it's hard to listen when you don't seem to want solutions." Actually talk about the shit in meta form. If she can't handle that, she's too low quality and you've chosen wrong again and didn't vet her properly. It falls back on you.
>grew up around women who were noisy and their squeaky screaming was some of the worst earrape my ears have ever witnessed
Bitches love drama. Don't choose a bitch next time. They're not all on that level. But that essence is feminine, for sure. Choose one who has that dial turned down a bit.
>>lost the love of my life and hardly any woman is interesting to me, my confidence has gone up but interest in the usual women significantly down and while I am able to get most of the women none of them are remotely interesting
You made the mistake of putting the woman at the center of your life. You put an emotional, fickle, fluttering, unpredictable being at the center of your life. Whether whatever happened was in or out of your control, that was a mistake. By contrast, if you'd focused on *yourself* as the center....built your world around YOU...you'd know that there's no particular bitch that you can't do without. You could simply find another one, though it may hurt to do so. Stop putting women on a pedestal above you. We're literally better in every way. But you bow to her? Women hate that, despite saying that's what they want. They know you're weak for doing it and treat you accordingly. You should know by now that women say a fuckton of shit they don't actually mean. Treat her like a celebrity and get pissed on like a fan.

>>33385382 (OP)
>>33402879
>>33402890

CONT'D
>Anyone else went through this? Is there a point to relationships?
Relationships are pointless if you don't know how to handle them properly. Most men go through this time and time again. Stop listening to what women *say* and focus on *what they respond to*. The woman says "Buy me flowers and take me out to dinner" but she sleeps with a one night stand who didn't even buy her a drink. "Be emotionally available and buy me flowers randomly" but she stays with the toxic dude who cheats on her and treats her like shit. It's about the emotional response. It's about feeling alive. That regular, nice guy, predictable shit gets old. I'm not saying be an asshole, but there are so many ways to keep a woman's mind engaged and thinking about random shit you said to put in place of that.

You shouldn't ever be following a woman. Or putting her on a pedestal. You set a precedent of entitlement and inconsideration. Hard to turn that around so you might as well just start over with a new one. She can't be the center of your world. You have to build that from within yourself and spread outwards from that. Then she simply chooses to join you in doing whatever the fuck you were gonna do anyway. She leaves? Oh well, you're still doing what you planned on anyway. You've now got room for a better bitch.

This also sets up the situation where she likes you more than you like her. Things are always better if the woman likes you more than you like her. It's the natural way. You'll also find they're more compliant in this situation.

You need to wrap your head around being a leader with a self focused drive for progress and putting yourself first. The bitch comes second. And until you can do that, relationships will not be worth it because they're not meant to be structured with the man riding bitch. You're supposed to have a destination and she's just along for the ride. Do that, and you'll be fine.

>>33402879
Not OP, but I've been listening to advice that sounds like this for a while
If everything being said here is true, than how exactly are you supposed to give a fuck about women in the first place?
There's not putting them on a pedestal, and then not having the urge to talk to them at all at some point
How do you hold your attention long enough to have a connection with a woman if you just have to be ready at every waking moment for her to just run off for virtually no fucking reason
Does any of this line up with the way people who have been married for like 30 or 50 years experienced their lives?


What if I don't want to fuck literal children
>bro

>>33403139
>how exactly are you supposed to give a fuck about women in the first place?
If you were dealing with a genuine, well adjusted, feminine woman, you'd probably feel differently about that question. The fact that you aren't is the whole reason that question even exists to you in the first place.
>How do you hold your attention long enough to have a connection with a woman if you just have to be ready at every waking moment for her to just run off for virtually no fucking reason
I don't think you've seen a legitimate *woman* or *lady* once in your life. Admittedly, most of these females are dog whores, bitches, and don't even qualify. But it's also not their fault if you can't tune the bad ones out. Kinda like how most men are completely invisible to women...most women need to be completely invisible to you. You don't have these problems because you refuse to deal with bitches that bring those problems. You only deal with the good ones. Those ones are interesting. They're fun. They're kind and considerate. Its on you to focus on those kind.
>What if I don't want to fuck literal children
It's a mental thing. Even a well developed woman is gonna have childish tendencies. "Would you still love me if I were a worm? "I hear your advice and you're right, but I don't wanna." Shit like that. It's about choosing one who's at an acceptable level. If she's not, respect yourself, kick her to the curb, and keep moving forward. With the right kind of woman you don't have to chase her. She chases you. And I gotta tell you: that feeling is great. You'll listing to a bitch talk about absolutely nothing when she's truly into you, chasing *you* and into what you're into. But you wouldn't have to because you'd also not be afraid to tell her to talk about something else, lol. That's the beauty of it. It's all about what *you* wanna do.

>>33403173
>If you were dealing with a genuine, well adjusted, feminine woman, you'd probably feel differently about that question
>most of these females are dog whores, bitches, and don't even qualify
What do you believe is the ratio to genuine women is to dog whore bitches
I know it'd be different from place to place but this is some Drake Equation shit no one has time to fully evaluate
How many times a year do you believe the average man has to speak to a new woman they are attracted to
Do you honestly believe it's daily? Or weekly?
>Kinda like how most men are completely invisible to women...most women need to be completely invisible to you
Most women are invisible to me, just based on my preferences and my area
I'm asking how to not have it be 100% of women

>>33403330
>What do you believe is the ratio to genuine women is to dog whore bitches
95% of females are bitches. 4% are women. And 1% are truly ladies.
>I know it'd be different from place to place but this is some Drake Equation shit no one has time to fully evaluate
You don't have to *be* Drake. You have to *think* like him. You don't approach a bitch trying to impress like you've got something to prove. You approach a bitch like "I wonder how interesting this one will be." Switch everything to that perspective. Instead of trying to show off your great music taste while you're driving in the car, hand her your Spotify and go "Play whatever you like. I want to see if you've got good taste." Instead of taking her to eat (waste of time) take her to do some shit you already wanted to do anyway. For me, that's photography. That's go kart racing. That's shopping for clothes (for me, not her). You've got to entirely shift the paradigm that you view "courting" through.
>How many times a year do you believe the average man has to speak to a new woman they are attracted to
Very few because the average man doesn't put himself in the position to see those women in the first place. He doesn't go out of his way. He doesn't try to create opportunities. I'll expand on this in a bit.
>Do you honestly believe it's daily? Or weekly?
Even for me it's not. But I'm also actively trying at the same time. But what you have to do is this: think of what your optimal woman would be like. How does she act? How does she dress? What are her values? Etc etc. Now take that and think: where would I find a woman like that? Great. Now go to those places. For me, I like a higher class, intelligent type. Has some style to her. So I started going to upscale locally owned coffee shops. Saw my type of chick all the time there. Wasn't attracted to all of them, but they were within my "tribe" or realm of reality.

>>33403330
>>33403465

>I'm asking how to not have it be 100% of women
You mean the 95%, based on my ratios. But the answer is this: put yourself in places where that 95% isn't at.

>>33403465
lol
that's not the Drake I'm talking about

>>33385382 (OP)
So are you just going to live forever alone or do something about it? You can take the hooker pill to but you won't have kids and probably die alone.