I've never gotten past 3 dates without girls rejecting or ghosting me. At first they think I'm 'cute' or 'quirky' but before long they find out that I'm actually just an autistic loser and they disappear.

For context this is me
>likely at least level 1 ASD
>never had any friends ever in my entire life, total outcast in childhood, university and adulthood
>borderline unemployable, hated by my boss, treated icily by coworkers and completely excluded from all social aspects of the workplace
>live in a shitty sharehouse full of indian students
My only saving grace is I'm 6'1" and must be above average attractiveness because I can reliably get matches and dates on Tinder with relatively attractive women. The problem is I've never got anywhere with any of them because by date 3 they realise that I have no friends, I'm a boring person who just works and goes to the gym, I have no hobbies or interests, I suck at all physical sports, and I have no relationship experience of any kind.

This isn't a humblebrag post, I went on a date with a girl this weekend to a dog park and it was the most awkward hour I've ever spent. I've never had a pet dog, I don't know what to do with a dog let alone someone else's dog. She suggested the date and wants to see me next weekend but "I have to plan it" and I have no fucking idea what to do.

I've had a nightmare date at an arcade thing where I missed a basketball 50 times in a row, got a shit score on the bag thing that you punch, failed completely at air hockey and she was filming me and sent it to a group chat where her friends were openly mocking me over my non existent hand eye coordination.
I went to a pool bar and couldn't play pool to save my life. I went to 10 pin bowling and sent every ball into the gutter. I have extreme anxiety and ALWAYS get flustered going to any food place because I don't know what to order because I've not tried it before.

Everything that I am is one gigantic ick to women

>>33387813
>I don't know what to do with a dog let alone someone else's dog
The fuck? You just pet them. How do you function?

>>33387783 (OP)
you should get to know the other person
skipping that part in your fantasies is just that - a fantasy, it's not autism but childlike thinking

>>33388094
I can get to know the other person and ask them questions about themselves, the problem is when they ask question about me.

>>33387783 (OP)
>What do couples even do while they're dating?
Before they're officially a couple and just dating, they'll just get to know each other. Talk about work, school, hobbies, interests, lifestyle, pop culture, amusing anecdotes, etc.

When they're going on a date as an established couple it's either just making small talking and catching up like "how was your week" type stuff, or not much talking at all because they're busy dancing or watching a movie and relaxing or getting drunk and making out.

>I have no hobbies or interests,
That's not true, you just don't float in a void after work. You just said you go to the gym and that's one thing already.

I'm also a sperg and usually average 0 friends, but the way I got girls was being true to myself and my hobbies and interests. Usually involving alternative music alternative fashion and alternative night clubs (punk, goth, metal, indie, etc.)

Whenever I did land a girl and then she found out I had 0 friends, that would often be a deal breaker for them. Dating girls and having sex is the easy part, the hard part is when they want you to hang out with her friends and be paraded around as The Boyfriend and then she wants to hang out with your friends as well so you can show her off as The Girlfriend.

Girls are just more social than guys, even the weird introvert loner girls I was with still hung out with like 4-5 people on weekends if only to play nintendo or board games or something.

>>33388209
why don't you want her to know you?

>>33388252
I go to the gym because being lean and muscular is a literal requirement for a guy to be a dating prospect in 2025. I also do it for my general health.
>surely you have other hobbies
When I'm not at work I'm rotting in my room studying for the medical school entrance exam my country has twice per year. I literally just work and study and occasionally browse 4chan.

>>33388257
because I'm a boring 1 dimensional loser - see >>33388278

>>33387783 (OP)
>OP: I'm 6'1" and must be above average attractiveness because
>Also OP: I'm a total klutz and doofus.

This example illustrates the absurdity of the tape measure of doom (and its flip-side, the tape measure of fortune), and face-ism: they are insufficient and unnecessary.

>>33388278
>I also do it for my general health.
as do most people at the gym.
>occasionally browse 4chan.
browse 4chan for what? music? anime? literature? getting mad at politics?

I believed the same way as you. That I was an autistic weirdo with no personality, and I literally have posts on this board from years+++ ago saying I couldnt even imagine myself with a girlfriend. Eventually I met a girl on bumble, and we just kept talking and talking and we went on a date and it just naturally developed into a relationship with no effort. It was the easiest thing that ever happened to me, the easiest friendship I ever had. Things didnt work out in the end but what I learned was that you just need to keep putting yourself out there and waiting for that right person to click with. It really is chemistry, it really literally are just two chemicals that have bonding properties when you meet that person.

>>33388725
I want to believe you but I'm 28.

12 years of school I was a loser.
4 years of undergrad I was a loser.
2 different Masters programs I was a loser.
If something was just going to 'happen' it would've happened by now. There isn't someone out there for me, no one has ever liked the me I've been for my whole life. I've buried myself in books and research and I can talk your ear off about clinical shit no one cares about, but mentally I'm still the same small child standing on the sidelines of the playground watching the other kids play and wondering what's wrong with me.

Every time any woman gets to know me they realise this they run for the fucking hills, it's like biting into an apple and finding the inside all rotten. I'm the opposite of Franz Kafka, I am actually a uniquely repulsive person I have an entire lifetime of evidence to support it

>>33388802
I was 26 almost 27.

>>33388807
>at first I thought you were mysterious and aloof but now that I know you're actually just a boring loser I like you even more
No woman is like this

Any 'get to know you' conversation goes like
>how come you've never been in a relationship before?
>what do you mean you don't have any friends? why not?
>what do you mean you don't do anything in your time off? what do you study
What's worse is I've had multiple women literally tell me they expected me to have a very different personality to the one that I have, it's like they expect me to be this confident extroverted guy and they're always disappointed.

>>33387783 (OP)
>dating
People have begun to lose their hopes and forget their dreams.

Nobody is dating anymore.
Nobody cares about anything anymore.
Nobody wants to get together anymore.
Nobody does anything without getting paid anymore.
Nobody wants to do anything anymore.

https://youtu.be/kVaolNKt2zw
https://youtu.be/1d925iMSuLY

>>33387783 (OP)
>dating
People have begun to lose their hopes and forget their dreams.

Nobody is dating anymore.
Nobody cares about anything anymore.
Nobody wants to get together anymore.
Nobody does anything without getting paid anymore.
Nobody wants to do anything anymore.

https://youtu.be/kVaolNKt2zw
https://youtu.be/1d925iMSuLY

>>33387783 (OP)
Men are not vanishing, they are retreating. From relationships, from institutional demands, from collective obligation. Not by cowardice, nor nihilism, nor weakness - but by sacred refusal to collude with a world that has hollowed out the feminine into parody, and severed eros from its mythic root.
This retreat is not a conscious movement toward soul, for most men have not heard of soul. It is not a deliberate descent into myth, for most don't remember the myths. And yet it happens. Everywhere.
Men retreat not in search of the feminine within but in search of refuge. They turn away from real relationships, work, education, not because they hate women, but because the outer feminine devoid of beauty, of function, of soul has become unrecognizable. And if given a choice between emptiness and the parody, they choose emptiness. They choose nothing rather than violate what remains of their inner integrity.
But it is there, in the void, that the great possibility stirs.
Even if they do not name her, do not know her, have never met her, still within that emptiness, the anima awaits.
She does not need to be reimagined, reengineered, or "updated". She does not ask to be made familiar to the modern psyche. She need only be seen. Once. As she is. In the dark. Without distortion. Without irony. Without demand.

This act of remembering is enough.

Because where culture collapses, myth re-emerges. And where men descend into the silence beneath language, soul prepares its next eruption. The anima was never meant to be found in daylight; she is born in shadow, dwells in dream, and speaks first through absence.
So let it be said: true virtue is born in darkness.
And when men meet her there not as escape, not as fantasy, but as a reawakening they will return. Not as obedient citizens of a broken world, but as bearers of the fire: visionaries, warriors, poets, and builders, not of new systems but of meaningful life.

This is not disappearance, it's gestation.

>>33388725
>Things didnt work out in the end
and there's the kicker, I had exactly the same experience. Everything felt natural, we connected well and it was easy. What fucked it up in the end?

>>33392796
after 2 and a half years she "developed feelings" for her coworker. basically the same thing that happened in her last long term relationship kek.

>>33393003
>2 and a half years
damn i bet that was pretty painful. i don't think i could ever trust a women again

>>33393028
I dont really know what to make of it still. I wasnt vigilant about her red flags. I dont hold it against all women, but in the future there is no possibility of me dating seriously any woman with a history of cheating or open relationships or failed relationships that ended out of "boredom".

>>33388252
>then she wants to hang out with your friends as well so you can show her off as The Girlfriend.
>even the weird introvert loner girls I was with still hung out with like 4-5 people on weekends
Well shit. It's over for me.

>>33393044
>boredom
99% of women will get board of you eventually, it's an evolutionary response. after my dad died my mom admitted that she hadn't loved him for many years and they really just stayed together for us kids.
it's fucking rough man, i've had plenty of dates and when i return interest in women they lose interest in me but when i'm an asshole/ignore them they chase me

>>33387783 (OP)

>>33387783 (OP)
I'm the opposite.
once I get that first date I get laid 50% of the time, decent sample size.
key things: I know a lot of interesting people and places around, good times guaranteed.
and I'm good with the flirty banter.

>>33387783 (OP)
this is easy. my boyfriend and i go out or just stay at home :p
we cook together, play games together, we go to restaurants, out for walks, we go to cute cafes and bookstores, we go get our photos taken, we sketch each other, go on double dates with friends, go shopping together.. we have deep convos maybe 35 percent of the time. we communicate well if we need anything. but a good half, we're just fucking around and doing funny shit. we have sex here and there

sometimes I make him bracelets or anything handmade

>>33387783 (OP)
Yea

>>33389828
loser will never cheat on her

>>33387783 (OP)
Nice

>>33387783 (OP)
>>33387783 (OP)
Yes

>>33387783 (OP)
POST SCAT ON VARIOUS BOARDS and makes jannies lives a living hell.

>>33388802
WRONG
If you consistently fail at something it means that there is something wrong with your approach. You can't just think that you need to find the right girl that you click with if it happens once every ten years at best. You got lucky once at 26 and you think you've figured it out? Normally you should have way more available chances.
>>33387783 (OP)
>I've never gotten past 3 dates without girls rejecting or ghosting me.
Do you flirt or act sexually interested? My mistake was that I was trying too long to get to know them, but girls expect you to push for sex first, so they were turned off by me.

>>33404876
meant to answer this
>>33388725

>>33388067
>You just pet them
But how?