We've been dating for 8 years, I want to eventually live with her, and maybe have kids. But for now we don't live together, the situation will change but not soon.
Also, there's this girl at work that I'm starting to like, we've been talking more recently, and she's so nice, she's so much younger though. I don't know if she likes me or not, but I feel she has a different attitude towards me, kinda flirty, could be all in my head of course.
Thing is, I'm actually considering trying something. But how would I even do that? We don't get that much time alone, and I'm not sure if I could blatantly flirt with her. First, I just don't know how to flirt, and I would have to find the right situation, and be sure she's down. Plus I would still feel bad doing something like that, and I'm too afraid to behave inappropriately. But even if she does actually like me, maybe she wouldn't even try anything, because I'm much older, and she knows I have a girlfriend. Also I think this is just because I see her too much, more than my actual girlfriend.
Obviously you guys will think I'm an asshole, and that may be true, but even though I love my girlfriend, I feel like I lost my entire youth with her, along with many experiences I never had, and continue to miss many experiences. Monogamy is bullshit dude, like I'm supposed to not have any other romantic experiences until the day I die? That's just a sad and boring life. And I don't want to break up with my girlfriend either, I want to have kids with her and all that. But either way, I feel like even if I had those experiences now, it would be just dating single moms from dating apps, I feel like it's already over for me, I'm just old and I feel I didn't enjoy my youth enough.
This was about this specific coworker, but I want to meet girls in general (doing some hobby or something), just to feel fucking alive. I lived with depression, low confidence, and looking like shit for years, now I'm much better and I want to enjoy life.
What do?

>>33388409 (OP)
>8 years
>maybe one day Ill live with her and get married
what an absolute joke

>Monogamy is bullshit dude, like I'm supposed to not have any other romantic experiences until the day I die?
Open your relationship if you feel like being cucked.

It doesn't sound like you love your girlfriend and you're only here out of habit. You hate monogamy but even you know that you're not great on the dating market.

>>33388409 (OP)
> We've been dating for 8 years
Subhuman thread. I won't read it.

>>33388426
I never said anything about marrying, who are you quoting? I feel like people (specially americans) care about marrying too much, and do it too soon, living together and having children are more important steps.
We're looking for a place to live together right now, but I have to admit I'm too comfortable living alone, and that's part of the reason we haven't taken that step yet.

>>33388433
She wouldn't like an open relationship. And I do love her. For some reason people keep thinking you don't love someone if you like other people, it's an idealized conception of love that's just not true. You still like women in general and still interact with them.
I actually don't know whether I'm good on the "dating market" or not, last time I was single I was so young and I was a different person, now I'm feeling much better mentally and physically.

>>33388409 (OP)
Monogamy is bullshit indeed. I mean imagine dating a man for 8 years monogamously and he's only interested in marrying "eventually" lol your wife is already a cuck for putting up with you this long who cares just do whatever.

You are such a fucking piece of shit. Break up with her. You don't love her.

>>33388409 (OP)
>monogamy is bullshit
There's your answer. Pack your shit. Tell your girlfriend it's over and leave with your things. You don't want monogamy, you don't get the things that she or monogamy offer you.

Why do you feel entitled to someone else's loyalty and dedication to you when you aren't willing to do the same for them? Go sow your wild oats.

>>33388409 (OP)
If you actually loved her, even the thought of being with another woman would disgust you. Being in your committed relationship should make you "enjoy life." If you don't, then why even be with your current partner? Why be with her if you feel like you wasted years of your life with her? You just don't say those things about someone you love.

Did you only date this woman because it was the only option? Were you wanting to pursue casual hookups with baddies from the start, but settled because you felt bad about how you look? She built up your self esteem. You gained confidence from her love and building you up, and this is the response. That now you're hot enough and have the skills to slam strange pussy instead of working on your relationship

>>33388580
Are you circumcised

>>33388409 (OP)
Yes

>>33388409 (OP)
>We've been dating for 8 years, I want to eventually live with her, and maybe have kids.

You don't. You are allowed to admit that, man. Just admit that. That 8 years of no proposing didn't occur out of nowhere. It's because you haven't wanted it for 8 years.

>Girl at work
Would you make her wait almost a decade as well?

>You guys will think I'm an asshole.
No. I respect assholes. Assholes are usually honest about being an asshole. I think you're someone who has their wires crossed. Someone who doesn't quite know what they want or who they should be. I think you are lacking in development. No judgement from me pal, that was me too for a long time.

>I feel like I lost my entire youth with her, along with many experiences I never had, and continue to miss many experiences.

Let's be real:
1) It goes both ways. You ate up 8 years of her time and loyalty too. She has missed many experiences too. For (you). Because you sold her on the idea that an experience with you was worth it.

2) Missing out on experiences? A hole is a hole is a hole is a hole. You are lamenting that you didn't get to fuck a score number of pussy. It's just pussy bro. They all bleed they all piss they all smell a bit funky without showering too long. Do you really need to have several different flavors of the same experience over and over?

>Monogamy is bullshit dude, like I'm supposed to not have any other romantic experiences until the day I die?

You ever considered there's uncountable other experiences in life that don't revolve around a skirt? That's a sad and boring life. To only exist for tits and pussy and the validation of women. You're supposed to be a man for God's sake. Get busy with cool shit, adventure the wilderness, push limits, fix broken shit, destroy shit that ruins what's unbroken. Building shit catching shit hunting shit developing shit. That's at least a mile more interesting than just
>Once upon a time, I coomed. The end.

Snap out of it

>>33388409 (OP)
>>33391777
>I feel like it's already over for me, I'm just old and I feel I didn't enjoy my youth enough.

So you got the age but none of the wisdom. Know how that happened? Lack of experience. Experience is what gives wisdom. Remember what you're complaining about?

>Aaah I lack experiences I didn't get to experience this and that

Yeah no shit. You are not mistaken. Problem though is you only seem to think life experience starts and stops at a pair of titties. It's also why you think seeing or fucking the coworker or other girls will fix your shit. It won't. You'll just repeat the same nauseating cyclical pattern you've been stuck in.

>This was about this specific coworker, but I want to meet girls in general (doing some hobby or something), just to feel fucking alive. I lived with depression, low confidence, and looking like shit for years, now I'm much better and I want to enjoy life.

Much better you say yet you're ready to sabotage and collapse 8 years of what you built. Doesn't add up does it?

What adds up is you gotta learn how to exist without requiring other people to give you a reason for it. It means you gotta unlearn that wacky ass all-or-nothing mentality.

You can develop yourself and live out new experiences without blowing out your kneecaps and throwing away 8 year of loyalty from someone. You do that by finding shit to do that doesn't involve pussy or romance or relationships. Fo and see, go and discover.

>>33391915
Oh also. When you go and see and go and discover, you'll hit a dead end. You'll see a void. Your mind will draw a blank. You will feel hollow and won't know what the fuck to do or how to go about it. Welcome to your own blindspot, my nigga. You just found your own limitation. Limits are meant to be pushed and broken. There's your purpose. Go and figure out the shit you can't even see. Go make it visible. And then get busy with it. No it's not impossible, if my adhd riddled spazz ass could do it, so can you