is being tall really that big of a deal for women?

I know a guy who barely brushes his teeth, is fat, has a neck beard is basically a man child at 26, cuts himself and still manages to get women because he is 6 foot

Frankly i'm disgusted by him, basically a 6 foot tall toddler

I'm 5'10, I have a good job, look good, clean, handle all of my own shit, go to gym and do running, I get attention from women but with this disgusting oaf around I get less when he is objectively worse in every single way except 2 inches of height.

>>33403916 (OP)
It's not.

Your in the wrong place to get women. They are attracted to him because they feel superior to him and want you jealous so they can get your reaction and get you to chase them.

Women love to be chased and get attention. Start looking for a woman in different spaces.

I hate fags like op bevause they’re not actually short and they wanna brag about being tall in a subtle way but don’t want to get pushback so complain Muh height

Actual short is 5’7 or below. Fuck off with your humbleragging
t. 5’7”

>>33403922
There is no way that is really what happened last night right?

I'm at Karaoke, Girl sits next to me wants to sing with me touching me, after group goes to next bar, Girl and Man child both leave randomly after ignoring him all night.

This just seems like the reverse of what has happened, eg used me to starve the man child of attention.

>>33403916 (OP)
im 5'7 and frequently pick up women irl and on dating apps

yes, height is a big deal, but it's more about making women feel physically protected

example 1 - i slap the shit out of a 6' dude, his gf is at my place next week

example 2 - two dudes beat me up, but i dont show fear or cowardice, the girl that came with one of the guys left with me because i was funnier

both true stories. if your body language doesn't scream "i would get folded in a fight", then you'll get women. harder when smaller, just the way it is

>>33403933
Believe me op. You are the better man.

>>33403936
Bro is built like a Somalian woman so I'm fine in terms of strength, maybe I just need to be a bit more forward with things, I hate whores/whore culture ironic i'm mad over a not bagging the whore tho. I'd much rather get to know the person before I stick my dick in to her but these days it's seeming harder and harder to do that before some other fucker decides to swoop in and plug the hole.

that does sound a tad bit incel but I do want a woman who is worth something.

>>33403937
Thanks, I know i'm the better man but it's just a bit confusing seeing such a fuck up of a person doing well lol

>>33403916 (OP)
I'm a 5'6" manlet, had several girlfriends in my teens and twenties and currently married and got a kid. There's no reason to rage quit over height.

Yeah it's true women prefer taller men. But for different emotional logic than you think. They do feel the ick or whatever the fuck zoomies call it. But they aren't icking at the short guy. They are icking at themselves.

Cuz women are self conscious as fuck. Always have been. When a short guy is next to them, it makes them feel bad for themselves. Makes em feel not as small and petite as they wanted to be. Girls obsess over being small and petite same way us men dream of being swole giga huge with a sword for a cock.

And as a man you need to not care what women think. Care what they feel but not what they think. If they think retarded shit about height, ignore it, it's just noise. Women magically stop chirping about height once they realize you are a man who doesn't give a fuck. Then they change their attitude and pretend they always liked your height to save their own ass from losing a man of value.

And a man can be a high value man of any height. Manlet or tall lanky beanpole doesn't matter. Just don't be a retard and become self conscious over height. That's a woman's job, not a man's job. And women don't like men who think like women

>>33403926
>Fuck off with your humbleragging
my bad bro

>>33403948
Interesting I suck at talking to women so I have no idea what is going on in this thread but reading this reply makes me feel better about not understanding women

I'm 6'2. I haven't sex for over a decade. Unless you're a midget, its all about face money or cock size. My ex always told me how much she loved the fact I was tall, couldn't date a short guy etc. She left me and then got with some scruffy little 5'7 dude (she's 5'8). Women will always convince themselves they've got exactly what they want until the next novelty comes along.

I'm 6 foot myself and I don't get any nay nay myself, so.
I think it's all about game and confidence or some bullshit like that, something I lack in both. I'm pretty sure a 5'10 guy can pull any girl if he knows how to talk to women, grooms himself well, ect.

Am I a ego manic if I look at my own picture and think i'm sexy as fuck or (I am sexy as fuck)

First of all, face = everything. I recently got back from Thailand and saw so many emaciated guys with hot girls because they were good looking and had the "spiritual" hippy vibe going on.

I believe the vast majority of women would take a regular built 5'8 guy over a lanklet any day. If you look physically weak and don't have any looks to fall back on, its a major turn off.

>>33403997
I regularly get way more attention from women than some of my friends who are also good looking.

>>33403997
I used to think was this manlet cope but I’m 6’2 and struggle so bad (uk) meanwhile all the handsome manlets, even if they are skinny skinnyfat
Hell even handsome fatties I’ve seen with girls.
I truly think I’ve converted to face>>height now

>>33403956
>Interesting I suck at talking to women so I have no idea what is going on in this thread but reading this reply makes me feel better about not understanding women

Yeah, you're not at fault for not understanding women. They're women. That's why it's also worthwhile for forgiving them for not understanding us either, we're men. They don't understand us much either. They think we're akin to predators or rapists if we perv out and goon, they often think we only care about vagina and that's all, just simple minded creatures who only live to eat and fuck, no depth beyond that.

If you can tho, try and understand how they tick. It'll save you years of insecurity or feelings shit. The big spoiler is: women are self-concious as a default. Whenever you think they are seeing you as ugly or at fault, it's 9/10 times the opposite and it's just them whining about themselves.

Women are passive in their aggression. Their true intentions are always hiding behind their statements

Anyone have any books on women that are not incel

Height has always been attractive of course. However what exists now has gone beyond basic attraction, young women today are socialized to prefer height to a pathological degree and it's somewhat contrived. Having a tall guy has become a social status thing more than ever, God help Gen Z and below

>>33403916 (OP)
Yes, height is important. The male equivalent is weight in women.

If you're too anxious to attract women with the other guy around, you have bigger problems than just your height.

height is a benchmark.
if you are below 5'7, it's important. if you are above, it's not that important but it helps. as long as you are taller than the woman you're looking for, you're good.

just wear 1 to 3 inch lifts. if you are in a position where you have to take off your shoes, you've gone far enough that women won't notice the height decrease.

>>33403916 (OP)
Height is not important as long as the taller and better looking guy doesn't show up

>>33403936
Holy fuck man, upvoted!

>>33403916 (OP)
I'm 5'3 and married a 6' woman

>>33403922
>they feel superior to him and want you jealous so they can get your reaction and get you to chase them.
This shit is tiresome. Doing that shit to make me jealous just makes me so fucking sour and depressed. It doesn't make me want to chase them, it makes me want to kill myself

>>33404439
>For me it’s 5‘3 and an attitude

>>33404439
No you didn't

>>33404526
How did you know?

>>33404527
Because you're obviously lying. Women cannot be attracted to men shorter than them.

>>33403986
Nah. I do the same. Im uniquely attractive. 10/10 at my best. If i were a girl, i'd be attracted to guys that look like me.

>>33403948
>>33404025
This is insanely great advice, thank you for this.
Do you have any tips on how to talk to women maybe? I know that you should be listening to them and not just waiting your turn. How would a good approach look like? literally anything, you seem to know what you're saying.

>>33403916 (OP)
It is not. Everyone has different preferences.
It is kind of a meme that normies have spread, and some people care about it.
Its like niggas who hate pineapple on pizza but have never tried it. Sheep ass niggas.

>>33405286
>This is insanely great advice, thank you for this.
>Do you have any tips on how to talk to women maybe? I know that you should be listening to them and not just waiting your turn. How would a good approach look like? literally anything, you seem to know what you're saying.

Thanks man. Yeah the thing is I really didn't care about spilling my spaghetti or not with women, so in a manner of speaking I don't know what I am talking about because I don't care to double check what I talk about with women lol. I simply just talked. Didn't make it a point to impress them, or make them buy into any social performances, didn't have any strong motives to date them or fuck them when I first encountered women. I just talked or texted them the exact same way I'm writing this post.

When it comes to socializing I try to keep myself consistent in how I come across. The same way I talk to a chick is the same way I talk to my male friends, which is the same way I type/talk on here or anywhere.

If I met a girl who I felt was not responsive or gave little convo in return, I never questioned myself or blamed myself. I just assumed the girl was boring as fuck and had no depth to her, so I stopped talking to her and moved on.

This eventually lead me to girls who did click with me and over a cozy short friendship period (usually a month or two), feelings would grow and then either they asked me out or I asked them out.

>>33405392
This is like everything you need to know to start dating. Once again thank you man. Main problem I really have is how to properly approach them, I'm not a smoker but I am aware than asking for a light is the easiest way to start a conversation and if she's uninterested - screw her.
Where did you approach them and how?

Also did you just not open up to women so that made them more interested in you?

>>33403916 (OP)
no, not at all
i'm 6'1 and women recoil when they see my face

>>33405407
>Main problem I really have is how to properly approach them, I'm not a smoker but I am aware than asking for a light is the easiest way to start a conversation

Ah see, I never approached. They never approached either. I just let the chips fall wherever, that was my 'approach'. So for example, I'd let randomness play out. I'd occasionally attend some social gathering somewhere, like agreeing to go visit my brother's friend who ran a restaurant. They were having some get together after hours for poker and drinks. I go there mostly to just hang with my brother but there's his coworkers there and their friends. People i don't know, good portion of them young women. I didn't approach, just had group convo with everyone talking to each other. Eventually I'd talk or a girl talked and I'd just slip into convo with her, branching off the group talk.

So I never directly approached, I just let opportunities approach me instead. Fine art of trying without actually trying.

>Did you just not open up to women so that made them more interested in you?
Nah. I let myself talk freely about whatever. Eventually I had to stop opening up and talking about feelings and emotions because that shit is catnip to a woman. Contrary to what people say, of you talk about yourself from a place of emotion, women sniff it out like sharks and become attracted very easily. I don't mean being a crybaby or a trauma dumper, just being honest and talking about how you feel emotionally about things as they happen. Showing heart is the male equivalent of showing cleavage. Drives em nuts.

Fun way to test this out is ask women themselves.
>Which is worse, your man fucking another woman?
>Or emotionally opening up to another woman?

You'd be astonished how many women claim the second is the worst. It's because they know how other girls are. The second a man bares his soul to a woman is the second that woman goes into female coomer mode and wants a taste of that man.

>>33405467
It's actually insane how much knowledge you have on this matter and I can confirm how some of it is true because I did experience some of those things, just not as much. You had helped me tremendously for sure. Thanks a lot.

>>33403948
What if I am an unconfident nervous manlet?

>>33405695
No problem man. And just wanna throw in another insight: don't worry about confidence or no confidence when going about things. You can feel anxious as shit or bored as shit doesn't matter. What matters is you consciously choose to just talk about whatever you want without caring what girls think. Sometimes being outright shameless works the exact same as confidence. And thing about confidence is it's just a feeling. And every feeling out there, good and bad ones, they all got expiry dates. They all come and go. There isn't a single man on the planet who is 100% confident 24/7. Life don't work like that. Chances are you'll be confident for a day, and feel shit a few others, then ambivalent or bored the rest of the week. That's workable. Just takes one good day and you capitalize on it.

>>33405869
See above brotha. And also it means if you are unconfident and nervous then you 100% need to let yourself be nervous as fuck but talk to women anyway. Even if it goes to shit and you get rejected, keep doing it. Do it till you stop caring about rejection. That's how you build up some tougher skin.

>>33405939
Nta but I'm kicking myself for having been such an antisocial bastard my whole life. At this point I feel confident about talking to girls but I'm never in situations where I can. This whole chain has been gold though. Thanks anon.

>>33403916 (OP)
bro 5'10 isnt a hinderance and there is no noticeable difference between 5'10 and 6 foot to women unless the particular woman is 5'9 or above in which case she's conscious of height differences that small. me im 5'10 and i pretty much exclusively am attracted to women around my height or taller (fucked up incident back in school days cursed me with this fetish/preference/whatever) so they DO notice but the vast majority of women won't notice the diff between 5'10 and 6 foot. stop being delusional

>>33403916 (OP)
>is Height really that important?
it's really fucking important

If you want to attract shallow cunts then yeah it does.

I didn’t even realize this was a thing till I tried dating apps. Apparently dudes lie about it.

>are you really 6’2”?
>yeah, why?
>oh just checking….