how the FUCK are fat beta low tier normies able to get sex but I can’t get laid to save my life despite being an in shape decent looking college guy? Tell me right fucking now!!

>>33410044 (OP)
In all the incel threads, listen to the people who the incels are mad at.
Every single one of those threads are filled with your answers.
You just dont like them because its more comfortable to think it isnt your fault than it is to think youre a fuck up who does it to yourself every single day.

>>33410044 (OP)
Because you have poor self esteem and low tolerance for distress or shame.
You do not talk to women without becoming overwhelmed by anxiety or hopelessness.

>>33410044 (OP)
They don’t have standards

>>33410044 (OP)
the fact that you refer to them as normies would seem to give a big hint about your issue here

are you one of those guys who also just sits/stands around not talking to anyone waiting for women to walk up to you and do all the "work" ?

>>33410044 (OP)
>normies able to get sex but I can’t get laid
What precisely do you mean by "able to get sex" and "can't get laid"? Please explain

>>33410044 (OP)
Because they're nice, likeable people, and worthy of trust.

>>33410069
Sure.
>able to get sex
They have the ability (able) to obtain (get) sexual intercourse (sex) from women on a regular or at least semi-regular basis.
>can’t get laid
I find myself unable (can’t) to obtain (get) sexual intercourse, or other sexual satisfaction from women (laid). Whether it be they are not interested, want someone else, get bored, use me for money, favors, validation, attention, etc without participating in sexual action with me.

>>33410044 (OP)
Women are attracted to what men do more than what they look like. If all the man does is eat, shit, fap, game, sleep and that's all she won't be nterested. If the man at least has some interesting stories, some profound experiences with life, the good and the bad, then she's interested.

If the man is currently pursuing those things in the present moment and making stories happen in real time, then she is VERY interested.

Women want a man with a story. If he is a blank slate both in his past and present, she's gonna pass. If you're not a good talker that's fine, so long as you at least got skills and useful abilities to tell the story for you in your actions.

But no skills, no experiences, no goals, no motivation no ambition = pussy dryer than Sahara.

You don't need to be Mr. Superman either. The littlest of shit can impress a girl. Like that dude in your OP. Know why she decided to harass him innocently? Cuz he was working on hanging the TV. That made her attracted, she thought it was cute/charming. So she took her phone out to take a vid of her hubby being a busy man. Cuz that's what women love, busy men who get busy. So go get busy.

>>33410044 (OP)
>Tell me right fucking now!!
The answer is always the same: because they are confident and fun, and you're not.

>>33410121
How do you know that based off a like 5 sentence post? Are you projecting?

>>33410105
I’ll answer I guess cause I was just like you a few years ago.

I read all the pickup books and watched the guru videos on YouTube. Wondering why I wasn’t getting laid despite being a good looking guy. Then one day I asked myself when the last time I met a new girl actually was. I was so focused on the girls already in my life who wouldn’t fuck me, and learning pickup shit, that it didn’t even occur to me to meet a new girl. Once I did I started getting laid.

So go outside. That’s literally it. Don’t just go outside and not talk to anyone. Or go places you usually go. Meet new girls. When you meet them don’t be a pussy so she friendzones you instantly. Be confident. Be fun. Act like she’s already itching to fuck you the same way you are. I get that you are autistic and in a dry spell. It applies to a lot of us here. But for fuck sake go outside instead of falling into the world of online incel shit.

>>33410044 (OP)
They all
-talk to women
-are good, decent men
-are trustworthy
Up your game

>>33410129
Not him, but like I said the fact that you had to label other dudes normies or normalfags says everything about your character.

>>33410129
NTA.
Here is how logic works.
Step One
>The overwhelming majority of women far prefer men who are self-confident. So much so that it trumps looks, money, and height
Step two
>Another overwhelming majority of women far prefer men to are fun, humorous, and pleasant to be around
Step three
>While these two groups overlap, it isn't perfect. However, it does mean that majority of men who are having sex are perceived as confident and fun
Step four
>You can't get laid, by your own statement
Step five
>This means that you are almost certainly neither confident or fun or oyu would be having sex rather than being grumpy and insecure on the internet

>>33410251
>that gif
isn't that the dude who got arrested for stalking/trying to grope a 14 year old girl and then was like "oh I googled "how to make friends" pls I am lonely :("

>>33410237
I wish I could talk to women, are good, decent men, and are trustworthy. FUCK.

>>33410044 (OP)
Women don't like being around you or spending time with you. If they did you wouldn't be here. Find out why.

Wow this thread is filled with terminally-online zoomers who get all their life experiences from tiktok
Anyone who is saying
>Muh confidence
>Muh likeability
>Muh ambitious man
Or any of the bullshit spouted ITT is clueless.

Here's what it boils down to: Most people are stupid, impulsive and short-sighted. Women are people. Ergo, this woman probably saw this dude in college, thought "OMG HE LOOKS FUN HE'S CHUGGING A BEER AND HAS A MUSTACHE HAHA HOW COOL I WANT HIM"
Never mind he became a fatass. Never mind he probably has a shit job. Never mind her boss is probably hotter. She's just a dumb cow who made a dumb decision and is sticking to it most via autonomic nervous system response.
As for the guy, keep into account this is one of three women, total, this dude will fuck in his life, and two of them were fat and ugly.

If you really want frustration, try having a 5'9" younger brother who still lives at your mom's house somehow racking up triple digits in bodies, while your 6'2" ass who lives alone and has his own business gets utterly ghosted by women. But then you'd be
>literally me

>>33410463
>>Muh confidence
>>Muh likeability
ive never used TikTok a day in my life because I’m not a self-limiting depressive. try being a human being, chicks dig it.

Incelism is a side effect of being autistic. Your inability to self reflect and realize this is also part of you being autistic. Women (people in general) have a natural aversion to autists, even if they don't immeditely realize that it's because they're on the spectrum. There's just something off about the mannerisms, the facial expressions and the way autists talk that makes normies (and ESPECIALLY women) repulsed, even if they are good looking.

>>33410463
Well, the explanation is that you aren't likeable or confident, anon.

>>33410463
>has his own business
literally who cares you're trying to meet girls not show up to Dragon's Den or impress someone at the bank

you're a careercel who blindly speedran his middle school jr high high school and college years totally ignoring women and probably making friends as well.

>>33410619
If I'm a careercel except I also don't care about the career what does that mean

>>33410623
moneycel?

>>33410623
Nta but it means you threw yourself at a career because it was all you knew how to do - following a schedule, following a curriculum, following whatever the expected thing was after school. You neither care about it nor do you know anything else.

Which is fine btw. There's worse mistakes in life to make. At least yours makes bank.

>>33410635
I think you misunderstood. I'm just a cel. There's nothing

>>33410637
Based and rare cel then. Means you are empty. A blank canvas. Feels hollow, man. But you have 1,001 possibilities from starting at zero. Means you get to decide who you want to be as an adult. Most people don't get that choice, they get it chosen for them by upbringing.

>>33410637
well how were you expecting your gf to show up if it wasn't from the career?

>>33410641
I'm not the 6'2 op

>>33410646
regardless, what was the idea in your head of the gf-getting process?

>>33410743
I haven't talked to a girl in 7 years but I'd guess youd become friends with one hence the name gf

>>33410619
>Careercel
You're not beating the brainrotted accusations, boyo
I actually have had several girlfriends, would have one now if I didn't break up wit her (told me too much about her past and gave me the ick, many such cases).
I'm not bemoaning my lack of pussy, I'm showcasing how no one ITT or on this site for that matter actually understands how to get women
>>33410623
It means he spends too much time online

>>33410105
>reddit spacing
>AND reddit advice
Go back, holy fuck dude.

>>33410595
You need to go outside and meet real women
One of my cousins dated a guy who everyone in her immediate and extended family (including me) hated, who was such a wimp he actually threatened to call the cops on my cousin and climbed out of a fucking window to "get away from her."
They were together for eight years. He lived with her at my aunt's house, and was even regularly unemployed for extended periods of time.

It's easy to be likeable and confident if you go outside and meet people like I do. If you did that, you'd discover the actual explanation is that women are dumb as bricks and made bad decisions. All the time.

>>33410105
>But no skills, no experiences, no goals, no motivation no ambition = pussy dryer than Sahara.
Modern women like the IDEA of a man with ambition, if you actually have an idea you're working 16 hours a day on they get pissed that something in your life gets more attention than they do and they start looking for (male) validation

>>33410815
what were you saying about being ghosted, utterly ghosted, by women and jealous of your manlet brother who lives at home

>>33410836
you're mixing ambition with autism

what are you working on for 16 hours a day that would warrant ignoring your gf

you can be ambitious without being a shut-in workaholic

>>33410859
>you can be ambitious without being a shut-in workaholic
yeah if youre ok with failure..

>>33410853
>what were you saying about being ghosted, utterly ghosted
That's mostly a function of me aging out at this point, and not meeting women. Just saying being over 6' isn't the instant panty dropper you retards think it is
>jealous of your manlet brother who lives at home
"Jealous" is a very interesting way to read "frustrated." Got anything you want to talk about with us, bud?

>>33410863
so what are you working on for 16 hours a day?

sounds important

>>33410859
>what are you working on for 16 hours a day that would warrant ignoring your gf
Aerospace technology startup with active contracts, deliberately understaffed to keep burn rate low
>>33410863
This. Every one of the 8 billion people on earth right now are competing with each other thanks to globalism. Grind or die.

>>33410874
>me aging out at this point
oh no what are you 45 years old
>"Jealous" is a very interesting way to read "frustrated." Got anything you want to talk about with us, bud?
frustrated about what

>>33410878
well if you wanna be married to your job like that then maybe don't get a gf

or fire some more people and instead hire some cheap indians

>>33410884
>oh no what are you 45 years old
Twink death hits us all at different ages, and hits harder in this day and age when 90% of women want young twinks
>frustrated about what
I can be frustrated with the retardation of the uninhibited "modern" woman without being jealous of my brother. It's called emotional maturity, go outside and get some sometime.

>>33410891
>well if you wanna be married to your job like that then maybe don't get a gf
I'm quite ok with being single right now, I was just making a point that all of the things the retards on this board think are instant panty droppers, like being tall and having wealth and "being confident", don't mean shit because modern women are so dumb and capricious they'd rather fuck some broke guy with a cool tattoo they like
>inb4 some coper says something about how having a tattoo makes a guy cool and projects confidence and fun or some shit
Having a tattoo means you paid $300 to go get a Hep C needle jammed into your skin by a Mexican and having permanent graffiti on your body to show for it. That's all.

>>33410894
>without being jealous of my brother
you're the one who mentioned him to this thread completely unprompted
>90% of women want young twinks
so go for the top 10% then

>>33410898
you don't sound all that confident desu
and no of course being tall isn't an instant panty dropper, girls want a guy who's tall but not like you know "weird tall"

I should know I was a "weird tall" kid around like 6th grade, was just a weird kid before that. But I was getting girls when I was 16/17, not a late bloomer per se but not a Chad or anything by any means.

and I for one am constantly arguing against the "having wealth" meme. I didn't fuckin have wealth as a teenager in a public school, no one did.

It really is just about charisma and personality and confidence and the rest of the stuff you got mad at.

>>33410946
And you sound like you don't know the difference between being confidence and just being a shithead
Luckily for you most women don't know that either and that's how they end up with shitheads
As I've shown in my multiple anecdotes from interacting with real live flesh-and-blood women

>>33410829
>You need to go outside and meet real women
I know plenty of real women. My gf is a woman.
>It's easy to be likeable and confident if you go outside and meet people like I do. If you did that, you'd discover the actual explanation is that women are dumb as bricks and made bad decisions. All the time.
Nah, that just sounds like you have a trailer park trash family. I assure you that a trailer queen is waiting for you out there. You should try with them.

>>33410922
>you're the one who mentioned him to this thread completely unprompted
You mean I mentioned an example of a man of dubious value in the thread that was made specifically to question the romantic successes of men of dubious value? Gasp!
>>33411220
>My gf is a woman.
Great, you agree with my point most women are fucking dumb and will just grab whatever low-value shithead that tickled their fancy for a particular millisecond

BTW you all couldn't have made it more obvious that you are all actually a bunch of broccoli-headed zoomer shitheads, you've all been seething for hours. Go outside and fucking play, kiddos

>>33410044 (OP)
There's a reason that both really dumb dudes and really suave dudes get women: they don't overthink. Dumb dudes are too dumb to overthink. Suave dudes are too smart to overthink. Neither apply logic to the actions women make. Dumb dudes simply cant and just focus on whats directly in front of them. Suave dudes know it'll never make logical sense in 1 million years because women operate on emotions alone most of the time. And here you are stuck in the middle. Too smart to stop overthinking, yet too dumb to realize what's setting you back. Be the genuine you, stop trying to convince and impress. Focus on what's right in front of you and what exactly was said and nothing more. Live in the moment. And you've got it.

TL;DR - stop caring so much and just go with the flow.

>>33410044 (OP)
Personality or lack of same

>>33410044 (OP)
Perhaps it's your hostile demeanor...

>>33410044 (OP)
NTpill
Incels online don't want to accept this for some reason. Your money and looks alone won't be enough to make you an incel unless you are at the bottom 0.1%. There's actually something wrong in your head or in your mindset.
>>33410590
This, essentially, but not necessarily autism. Could be anything from introversion, social anxiety, avoidant personality, to simply bad social skills and ineffective mindsets or mental loops.
In my case for example, I've had girls attracted to me because of my looks and ask me out, but somehow I always failed to progress past that, often because I literally didn't know what to do.

>>33410044 (OP)
they actively try to fuck women
you don't

>>33410283
the very same perv.'
Hero to incels everywhere

>>33410463
>Yes, I am an unlikable dipshit with zero personality
FTFY

>>33410044 (OP)
You have to go and meet women and then be charming around them. Sorry

>>33410044 (OP)
You must have imagined it. See a head doctor.

>>33410044 (OP)
Personality can always compensate the body.
All incels have a shit personality because they rather blame anything else but them self.

>>33411285
>Great, you agree with my point most women are fucking dumb and will just grab whatever low-value shithead that tickled their fancy for a particular millisecond
what do you have to offer a woman, and why do they lack the IQ points to appreciate you?

>>33410463

>>33415161
At least incels have a personality

>>33410044 (OP)
Evidently you are lower tier than them. It's not that hard.

>>33411285
>my point most women are fucking dumb and will just grab whatever low-value shithead
>TL: "Am I a retarded dweeb that dries out pussy worse than MRE crackers? No. It is the women who are wrong."

>>33415495
Getting no pussy isn't a personality trait.

>>33416129
Having a pussy isn't a personality trait

>>33416455
Completely correct, anon, so don't tolerate women just because they have one of those.

>>33416473
You need to tell that to the rest of the species.

You do understand humans would go extinct overnight if unwanted pregnancy dropped to 0.

>>33415495
> They say I've got a magnetic personality.
> When I go anywhere, everyone seems to stay away from me!

>>33415495
No, no we do not.

>>33410044 (OP)
It's your own perception of yourself that's the problem, you think of yourself as some sort of "different guy", the fact you call people "beta low tier normies" means you don't think of yourself as a normal person.

Start being normal and normal things start to happen, start being a weirdo and weirdo things start to happen, people can sense this shit when speaking to people, body language, spoken language will all affect how other people perceive you.

Why are you putting so much importance on "getting laid" as if that will magically change anything, it wont.

Some of these "normies" are weird guys too but they either lack the self awareness or just don't care about how they're perceived so they come across confident and assertive. If you're a woman with two choices, decent looking guy who is always feeling sorry for himself and is angry OR weird guy but is confident in everything he does and is assertive in things he does, you choose the latter guy, purely based on instincts.

Change comes from within, this change will slowly manifest itself in your behaviours, people will then pick up on these changes etc

To answer your question, you are the problem, change yourself.

>>33410089
>I find myself unable (can’t) to obtain (get) sexual intercourse
What does that mean? Are you impotent? Gay?

>>33410044 (OP)
His gf is probably not attractive. His body count is probably 4.

Not many of my friends have attractive gfs. Most of the attractive girls I've fucked seem to wanna sleep around. Mid girls and below want relationships, most hot girls get addicted to novelty / fun and their lives end up a mess because of it.

>>33410129
NTA but going by this logic how do you know these guys are "beta males" then just from observing from afar and seething?
Those guys weren't afraid to talk to a girl and it seems like you are, and it doesn't get much more beta than that.