Thread 33437274

I’m getting an abortion tomorrow. Still not sure if it’s the right choice, but since everything’s already fucked, I’m doing it anyway. I’m 19, and the "dad" is 28 now. We broke up a while, and he ruined my life in every way possible. Had to change my locks cause after the breakup, he broke into my house and broke some of my things, and even hit me once. Anyway, I never wanted to be some miserable single mom with a disabled or autistic kid, so this felt like the best decision. Got no one to talk to about it cause I kept it in secret, didn’t even tell my ex about it. Not like he’d man up anyway. Just wondering if I made the right move.

sounds like a difficult situation, and i am sorry to hear that. although, i feel like you should have made this thread on reddit or somewhere that is friendlier to young women. there are some bitter people on this board who may not have the best intentions in responding to a thread like this.

>>33437274 (OP)
What if the kid is perfectly fine? If you get one at 19 it's possible that you'll be sterile the rest of your life it would be better to adopt it out

You’re going to get hate here because it’s 4chan, but you’re making the right choice. Don’t have a kid if you aren’t 100% sure and especially not if on bad terms with the dad.
And like you said, it’s always possible to have a retard kid, so everyone who wants to be a parent needs to accept the possibility of raising a retard. It’s not something a lot of people consider so good on you anon. You’re doing the right thing.

ABORTION IS MURDER

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ng_6EHK7k0w

>>33437328
Ew

>>33437287
Going through an entire pregnancy without any support is too much for me. I really don't have someone to help me through the pregnancy

>>33437274 (OP)
that does seem like the right choice in your situation.
I am against abortion, as I believe it to be murder, but sometimes things are more important than the murder of a non-conscious child.
godspeed to you, Nona, and don't go with a 10 year older chaser next time.

>>33437274 (OP)
>Just wondering if I made the right move.
I have no idea. What I do know is that you are better qualified to make that call than anyone else in the world, and you should trust your own judgement.

>>33437287
>What if the kid is perfectly fine?
What if it's not?

>>33437274 (OP)
Not that my opinion matters in the slightest - it is, should be, and can only be, your choice - but based on what you've said, it sounds like 100% the right choice to me.

Abortions are completely safe these days - vastly much safer than giving birth anyway! - and you aren't choosing not to have a child, you are simply choosing not to have *this* child, now, with this father. Not having this child now makes it possible - if you want to! - to have another child with another, better father a little further down the line. That child will probably never exist if you have this one now. And of course you can't know which of those two potential children would turn out better, but you do know which father will be the better, and you do know that a few years from now you'll be in a much better place to be a mother (if you want to be). The only question to ask is, do you want to be pregnant right now? And you clearly don't. It's that simple.

>>33437480
You have answered your own question, dont let the feelings and other ppls opinion cloud your judgement

>>33437274 (OP)
At least do one thing before you decide. Get the pregnancy ultrasound scan. Watch the little unborn kid move and kick it's tiny legs in real time. Look at the humanity of it. You can get that scan as 12 weeks. You even see it's heartbeat.

At least witness what it is you plan to terminate. And then decide.

It really is up to you and if you feel like you would want to be a single mother at 19 but you probably made the right choice, especially with that father that would probably do you more harm in the future and possibly to the kid.

>>33437296
>>33437553
>>33437582
>>33438248
I'm glad I don't look like a monster doing this. I know I messed up and I might mess up even more in a few hours, I just wanted some kind of approval to make sure I don't look like horrible person.

>>33437274 (OP)
Well you better eat all of it. Don't be wasteful.

>>33438349
You’re not a horrible person. You will be okay. Hug.

You're killing your own baby. You'll regret it till you die. Trust me. Have the kid, and everything will work out. It always does.

>>33438597
>Have the kid, and everything will work out. It always does.
How is anyone this retarded

>>33438349
>I might mess up even more in a few hours
You're going to fuck chad again and like it.

>>33437274 (OP)
I mean you're killing your kid, if that's the decision you want to make you're going to have to live with it like anyone else who ends a life because it's inconvenient.

I'll tell you this as a new dad, my daughter is the best thing that ever happened to me. We had her when me and my GF were homeless after leaving my abusive as shit drug addict parents, didn't even know she was pregnant beforehand, and thought every day has been a struggle just seeing my baby smile back at me and call me dada is enough to get me through anything in life. If you want to kill your kid, so be it, but it's a mistake. Children are never a mistake and they make your stronger.

>>33438892
make your life stronger at their opportunity cost lol
imagine having parents that are/were homeless

>>33438932
Better than having parents who were alcoholic, abusive coke heads my guy. I left for a reason. Plus I had a job and a place by the time she was born so she's never known being homeless. There's no shame in being poor, I know the kinds of people who think otherwise and came from a very well off background otherwise. Goddamn scum most of them

>>33438685
It does. People can aclimate to most anything. Having a kid is really not that big a deal, and you will adjust to being a mom much easier than you think. It's just spiraling anxiety making you think you can't do it, or that it will ruin your life or whatever.

You will 100% regret having an abortion for the rest of your life. You will not regret having a kid.

>>33438892
Sounds like a cope. Crabs in a bucket.
>>33438971
>Having a kid is really not that big a deal
Just fucking lol.
>You will not regret having a kid.
See: r/regretfulparents

>>33437274 (OP)
Well now you're a miserable single mom who killed his own child.

Having a kid is worth it. Life will happen and you will regret it. There is nothing cheery about getting an abortion.

>>33438349
I wouldn't date a woman who got an abortion. I would pump and dump her if anything. I wouldn't want to impregnate a child killer though.

Seriously, get some fucking help. Ask parents etc. You're making decisions under a crisis, calm the fuck down.

>>33438892
Listen to this man.

You will be a mother one day, you will look at your living kids and remember the baby you killed. This stays with you forever. You will always wonder at every achievement they'll make what would the life of that baby be like now.

You can choose to cope the rest of your life, think about it in every relationship from now on. Or you can step up and enjoy what life is giving you. Growing means looking for the appropriate help, if it's not your parents then it's friends.

You have the chance to make this something to be proud of, or choose a life of constant reminder of an irreversible decision involving life.

>>33437274 (OP)
>everything’s already fucked
Well, you certainly were.

>>33438778
I was talking about the abortion

Is the kid white?

>>33437274 (OP)
>i let some shitbag retard nut in me for funsies teehee
>oh no the shitbag retard is doing shitbag retard things! poor me im a victim i shouldn't be held responsible for my choices or their consequences
>oh, i know! i can just kill my child and pretend i didn't commit infanticide teehee
how about you just stop being a dumb whore and maybe you wont have to murder your unborn child you dumb psycho

I'm sure you slept with him because his dick was huge you fucking whore.. i hate women. hope you go through with it and the thought of the child that woulda been haunts you every night when you think how old they would have been, and their name.. and the thoughts of them calling you "mommie" with a loving smile..

Fucking whores chasing big dicks and letting them cum in them like clowns.. get diagnosed terminally, thanks.

>>33438349
>I'm glad I don't look like a monster doing
uhhhhhhh.
no one said that.
yes, you are a monster and a stupid one at that.
yes, you are guilty and guilty of murder by tomorrow too.
no one just dared to call you that or shame you or call you names, because that would be not constructive to your case and we are all anonymous here, giving advice (best to our knowledge, at least some).

do not make the mistake in thinking that anons over/here/ do not have a moral compass or values or approve of your shitty behaviour.
and like the other anon said, you should seek help with your parents first.
then you should seek contact with your boyfriends parents/your parents can call their parents and make a deal or soemthing, maybe
and then probably get him to pay child support/alimony
and if you have free healthcare (everywhere but the usa) you should go seek a psychologist/social worker for help

>>33438349
>I'm glad I don't look like a monster doing this.
You do know that it's possible that the anons who are encouraging you to kill the baby are actually horrible monsters themselves, right?

>>33439015
>>33439988
My mom died and I don't have contact with my father. I can have the baby and that still an option, but I don't know, it's all very complicated now. I don't want to take on more than I can handle, even if that seems kind of selfish.

>>33440060
>My mom died and I don't have contact with my father. I can have the baby and that still an option, but I don't know, it's all very complicated now. I don't want to take on more than I can handle, even if that seems kind of selfish.

Now look at the opportunity before you. Mom died, father isn't there for you. But a child can be family. A child you can make a home with, one you love and loves you in return. Yes it will be hard, yes it will be uncertain and full of anxiety. But those feelings pass. Love for the kid endures, something you can count on. Don't throw it away. Sometimes in life good things can come from bad circumstances so long as you hold onto a conviction and a belief that it can.

>>33440060
is it really that hard to not have unprotected sex with mentally unstable, violent retards? i would imagine it's not but being as im not a whore i may be wrong

you're a selfish, short sighted, mentally damaged monster already, maybe being killed in the womb would be a mercy for a child compared to the hell and pain you would put them through as their mother. its a shame that you'll learn nothing from this if you do abort and you will likely just get knocked up by some other violent retard at some point in the future

>>33440060
yeah shits fucked anonenette BUT
also
>I kept it in secret, didn’t even tell my ex about it. Not like he’d man up anyway.

maybe call your ex right now and tell him the truth? like you do not know for sure that he wont man up?
sometimes they do man up. i mean hes 28 or what you said. i mean HE is fucked so, or so.
he is going/have to to pay child support, by LAW, if he wants it or not
also, maybe call a social worker/psychologist, now
>>33440098
it doesnt help calling her names as i mentioned itt b4.

>>33440111
i hate to tell you this, but a 28 year old man who's banging 19 year old girls isn't going to magically be a decent human. he was just looking to fuck some young vulnerable girl and thats about as far as the train goes

>>33437274 (OP)
Right call, wouldnt be fair for the child to grow without a solid family support and you're way too young to do this alone

>>33440111
retarded call, seems like OP is trying to get out of a toxic relationship with her ex, way to pull him back into it by telling him this.

Kill that asshole baby you dumb broad stab your ex next

>>33437274 (OP)
Use protection
Stop fucking immature men
Make it a rule that you won't have sex with a man unless they wrap it up or something.
Get the abortion, can you afford to be a single mother?
If you do have the kid, give it up for adoption.

>>33440215
incel

ignore the christcucks and abort the baby. they don't give a fuck about you and just want to virtue signal about being pro life. if you decide to have the baby with all the struggle that entails those same people will still hurl vitriol at you and call you a whore etc. and give zero help and zero fucks.

>>33440242
she is a whore though, no? sleeping around getting dicked down deep and letting him bust inside when u knew he had no interest in having a baby.. whore.. hope she gets low PH'd

honestly seems like the right choice. youre in a shitty situation and nowadays a kid can only fuck you over. how i see it, the kid will end up fucked either way. give it up for adoption, the kid will feel like a burden if he wasnt worth the struggle of his original parents, and even if you two step up and raise the kid, if hes violent it will inevitably project onto the child. even if it doesnt, you can never hide abuse even if theres no bruises. youre in a shitty situation and i suggest you stay away from this kind of shit. take care

>>33440223
If it sounds like i'm shaming you for having sex, i'm not. I'm not trying to convert you to religion. There is a middle ground of using protection and having sex. Get the abortion or have the kid and give it up for adoption.

>>33437274 (OP)
If you were nonwhite, the abortion would be the right decision. Since you're apparently white, it's tragic, but still the right decision. You'll have grief and guilt. It's easier to heal from that than all the stress and guilt of struggling to give a child the healthy upbringing it deserves. Ignore the incels (ignore me too). Or listen to their shaming and learn from it by making better choices romantically from now on but don't ruin two lives now.

>>33440098
>>33440215
>>33440248
I used protection. I don't think you guys really understand that God is completely against me in this situation, and I really don't have many options. I didn't sleep with just any Chad; he was my long-term boyfriend, we'd been together for two years.

>>33440335
Maybe I was being a judgemental asshole, you used protection and he was your boyfriend, not a random hookup. Okay, my bad, I was incorrect in my assessment of the situation. You're still pregnant, he still bailed, and the two of you have relationship problems. You yourself said he might not step up and take care of his kid so you're considering getting an abortion.
Get one or have the kid and set it up for adoption. You can't afford to have a kid and don't have the energy for it. Idk what to tell you boss. God isn't against you, you made poor choices and it isn't even anything against you. We're not perfectly logical and rational creatures 100 percent of the time. Shit happens.

>>33440335
>26yo man dating a 17yo girl
yeah, thats not a relationship, thats trauma bonding to some shitbag who just wanted to fuck you
>"i used protection i swears guys, got willed me to get pregnant"
yeah, that's not how that works. you're just a dumbass

>>33440335
>he was my long-term boyfriend, we'd been together for two years.
>I’m 19, and the "dad" is 28 now.

So you started dating a 26 year old as a 17 year old and let him knock you up?

just start a family you murderous whore, stop being selfish.

>>33440242
From an atheist perspective, a human embryo is an alive unique human being from the moment of conception. It has its own unique human DNA (different from mom's, dad's), is alive, grows. It lacks awareness to an extent but so do sleeping people. It lacks ability but so do little babies, old people, etc. Get your facts straight.

>>33440335
God is not against you, you're just against God, factually. I ain't judging but if you don't want similar unpleasant situations to repeat start following God. Seriously. I'm not talking about this situation but in the future aim to start a family with a normal dude asap and get lots of kids. It's the best. Sex/drugs lifestyle gets very boring and empty after a couple years. t. converted atheist

>>33437274 (OP)
Fair enough honestly

Goodluck with your operation

>>33440400
Well, I'm not 17 anymore

>>33440653
You're pregnant and considering an abortion. You're 19, so you're typing like a kid. We know that you'e not 17 anymore. You might as well be.
What are you going to do? The condom broke but you're still pregnant

>>33437274 (OP)
Saw your thread today, just got a chance to reply.

>Still not sure if it’s the right choice, but since everything’s already fucked, I’m doing it anyway.

You already know it's not the right thing to abort. You deeply know in the depths of your being that it's not what's right. You are only struggling to confirm this because you are focused on what is easy. An abortion is the easy way out. It's easy and is over with in a day plus a week or two of shaking off after effects. Vs. 9 months of pregnancy + raising a life from nothing.

So you feel every temptation to abort, especially because you are alone and struggling. No shit you feel tempted to abort. Anyone would in your shoes.

But that doesn't mean you should abort. Especially because you know the hard thing is the best thing to do. Because it forces you to be responsible and take care of a child. It forces you to push through hard pain to endure and find a way to thrive. It forces you to start caring about yourself so that you have the means to care for something that isn't (you). Only good can come of that. Even though it's hard, it will add to your life, not take things away.

Those who tell you to abort don't believe in you. They don't believe you can make something good of yourself and for the kid. Is that what you truly wish to believe of yourself? Especially since there's so many ways to care for a child?

Think about it. People can afford multiple subscriptions for Netflix, YouTube, gaming apps, fast food. Pure soulless shit. Yet some of these same people tell you to abort, that you cannot afford $50 - 100 a month for a baby? (Yes, that's how little it can cost if you shop wisely).

You can be a mother and a half decent one too, nothing is stopping you. And if you can't believe that of yourself, let the baby prove it to you when it looks to you and smiles at seeing their mothers face. Because to that baby, you are the most important person in its life.

>>33437274 (OP)
If he made you leave him and is now braking in your house damaging things then yes, an abortion is the right thing to do. Smh. He's a lame.

>>33440811
>Man commits felonies and crimes
>Better kill the kid, not call cops on man

Great logic

>>33438971
> Having a kid is easier than you think

Spoken like a true ignoramus. Having a child with both parents in the picture is challenging enough as it is, but for a 19 year old single mother it will be a walk in the park.....

KYS retard.

>>33439958
Virgin Alert!!!!

>>33440664
>What are you going to do?
I'm not sure, honestly I was more certain about having an abortion before I created this thread. I'm still scheduling it, but Idk.

>>33438685
Ignorance is bliss.

>>33440851
I am seeing a lot of people here saying "hur dur gib baby up for adoption". I would encourage you to research adoption and foster statistics. The outcomes are not good, and there is a clear obfuscation from those who are so adamantly suggesting you give up for adoption.

As a father of a young baby myself, raising a newborn is an incredible challenge even with 2 parents and additional support from family. No doubt it is a labor of love and equally as rewarding as challenging, but again this is coming from someone with a very stable financial situation, and a strong support network from both our families.

Ultimately the decision is yours and is going to be difficult either way, I would just encourage you to be skeptical of anyone who says it will be easy or that sugarcoats the reality of the outcomes of situations like yours.

Best of luck, I hope you find peace in whichever decision you make.

Kill yourself if you're worried the kid could be autistic and that's why you're aborting it

>>33440988
would you want to be a single teen parent with a violent baby daddy who doesn't support you at all? because you really shouldn't have kids if you're not prepared for the possibility of them being disabled, and op doesn't have the resources to care for any kid at all, let alone a disabled one.

>>33440996
>would you want to be a single teen parent
then why are you having sex, whore?
please kys ,nta btw

>>33440851
Nona, I’d stop checking this thread if you can. It’s 4chan. There are actual retards saying things like “having a kid isn’t that big of a deal.” Their opinions are worthless.

>>33437274 (OP)
Nothing you did was a right move.

You made a series of bad decisions, likely without thinking of the consequences for you or anyone else, and now you even want to avoid feeling bad by getting some sympathy.

Worse still, a child you consented to create with some loser has to pay the price of you not willing to woman up and wait for a good man, or just give some fucking head or something to avoid pregnancy while still getting your loser BF off. The idea that at 19 your kid is gonna be tistic or disabled is laughable since thats one of the lowest risk age groups to have kids at.

There are so many support groups for people in exactly your situation, your parents should take care of you, the BF should take care of you, church groups, pro life groups, the list goes on...

If you have to kill that kid no ones going to stop you, but realize its on tier with drunk driving and seriously hurting or killing another person cause you made poor choices.

So take it seriously and make better choices regarding who you let make babies with you

>>33437553
I have seen women get serious complications from abortions and die from them you liar. abortions are 99% fatal for the child, and some children survive abortions.

You need a damn good reason to kill a person, and "I, a fucking adult, consented to things I know make babies but now regret that choice" isnt good enough.

There is a damn good reason why this person is trying to assuage their own feelings of guilt and is seeking validation from strangers.

There are people waiting in line to adopt, put the kid in a fire station and walk away if you must, but there are so many options that do not involve killing the kid and also absolve the mother of any parenting/financial responsibility.

Your ethics are the ethics of weak scoundrel

>>33438685
the retard is you anon

>>33438892
yup... no one is EVER ready to be a parent. and having the kid and giving it away is 100% a thing any woman can do no questions asked. win win, baby doesnt die, and you dont "ruin" your life because you have to take on responsibility for your own choices. and some happy couple who wants more kids gets one in all likely hood too.

>>33441375
>Nona, I’d stop checking this thread if you can. It’s 4chan. There are actual retards saying things like “having a kid isn’t that big of a deal.” Their opinions are worthless.

Having a kid isn't that big of a deal. I should know because I have one. Those who have had children should only speak on the matter. Those who have not should keep quiet. Because they have no clue what they are talking about at all - no experience of having a kid. Means all their fear mongering about having a kid counts for precisely nothing.

>>33437274 (OP)
Theres more to picrel but I'm sure you can reverse image search it.

>>33440335
your boyfriend is well past the age where he should be having you kill a child to get him out of his part of the responsibility.

If you have been with him 2 years why they fuck not tell him about the kid, have the kid and live together, why are you just assuming he will freak? you are both well old enough to have kids, he sure as fuck better have money if hes 28

>>33441429
Raising a child with him was never an option. I think he'd kill me if he could, and he said he'll do it one day, so it's not like he wants to raise a baby with me.

>>33441492
you are 19 and should be talking to your parents and the cops about the 26 year old who statutory raped you at 17 and has threatened to kill you... wtf are you doing on 4chan

just give the baby away and move on with your life and for Gods sake try to make better decisions

>>33441393
>I have seen women get serious complications from abortions and die from them
And women get complications and die from giving birth.
>>33441406
You aren’t the one who has their body drastically change and you probably aren’t the one doing most of the child-rearing. But even the idea that having a kid is “no big deal” is fucking laughable. You are bringing another human life into this world and are emotionally and financially responsible for it for 18+ years. Also there are other parents in this thread who agree with me like >>33440939
>As a father of a young baby myself, raising a newborn is an incredible challenge even with 2 parents and additional support from family.

>>33437274 (OP)
you have made the right choice, unwanted children should not be brought into the world

>>33441492
>asshole knocks up teen
>leaves, roughs her up, threatens to kill her
>before safer abortion, she'd carry his child
>non-asshole doesn't knock up anyone
This is how we got here, and women's attraction patterns being stuck in the stone age is a big part of the problem.
Good societies figured out how to curb that. Now we loosened up a bit too much, but it might be time to bring the non-stupid parts back.
Do the wise thing, OP. And use your experience to choose better next time. Talk with more experienced women that have a happy family life and aren't bitter, so that it actually sticks.

>>33442006
and you are not the one being killed by the abortion, stop hand waiving away the fact that the abortion is fatal for the child.

dont have sex if you dont want to get pregnant, you not being a responsible adult is not enough to justify taking another life.

>>33439958
this post is so kino its life fuel. thank you brother

>>33437274 (OP)
Of course it's NOT THE RIGHT CHOICE
. Murder is NEVER the right choice what the fuck.
Only psychopath ppl kill other ppl and there's a special place in hell for BABY KILLERS!!

>>33438892
Based

>>33437274 (OP)
Another caution for you OP.

Let's say you have the abortion. You feel nothing much from it. Maybe a pang of uncertainty of what could have been or a few waves of near guilt but after a time you normalize it and you assume you got over it.

Fine. Turn the clock forward 5 years, 10 years. You are married to a man, a good one. Things are going well. You decide to plan for parenthood this time, you resolve to do it right. You get pregnant on purpose, hoping to start a life with the man who loves you.

You go for the scan. You see the child in the womb, alive and moving. Then it hits you. Then the past crashes down. You aborted that before. Whatever joy or amazement or awe you could have had on the day of seeing the child you wanted instantly gets eclipsed by the memory that you no longer have a proper unburdened right to feel love or care for the second baby in the womb. Because despite the innocence of what you see, you are reminded you aborted that once before. What should have been one of the most important days of your life turns to ashes and bitterness.

Women who have had abortions before don't speak about that part. For good reason.

>>33442006
>You aren’t the one who has their body drastically change
True. Still doesn't necessitate abortion. Most women endured those bodily changes. Including your own mother, which is why you were able to exist.

>You probably aren't the one doing most of the child-rearing
'probably'. Not everyone is your deadbeat ex boyfriend. I break my body for my wife and kid, hard physical labour every single day on sleepless nights until it hurts. And I do it willingly because knowing that my wife and kid don't go hungry and I keep the lights and heat going in the house so they can live comfortably keeps me happy. On top of working hard at work, I do help with child rearing. I even had to wife-rear too. Constantly fetching every single thing for her as her own body became too tiresome for her. Making every meal, massaging her sore body aches, walking her to and from the bathroom, helping her dress, even drying and brushing her hair each night for her to save her energy. I did all of that + worked hard to the bone to keep us fed.

True, I didn't have the baby growing in me as a man. But don't think I didn't also endure pain and stress just because I'm the man, the husband. We have to endure some real hard shit too. The woman just has to care for a baby. The man has to care for the woman PLUS a baby. PLUS himself while breaking his body for money.

I could have easily just told my wife to abort so I could avoid such a difficult date. Would have been so easy. But I didn't and neither did she, and she even has her own health issues and problems and flaws same as anyone.

I wish people who abort are at least honest. Instead of whining about how difficult things will be, they can just say 'i am too lazy/immature to care."

It'd save a lot of time. Truth is, difficult as child raising is, it's still not a big deal. It's life. Death is a big deal. Though I suspect you ain't even experienced or seen that up close either.

>>33437274 (OP)
>Got no one to talk to about it
This is the problem right here. You should talk to your family, not some anons on the interner.

The lesson you need to learn is that you are terrible at making decisions. And you were probably manipulated to have a set of beliefs that lead you to these wrong decisions against all reason.
I mean you dated someone who would beat you up.
You dated someone who would break into your home.
You let him make you pregnant at 19, not even being married.
If you have no one to talk to, I'll make the leap and assume your family tried to persuade you not to act like this, and you went with the man instead, and you made tiktoks about how evil your family is. That's how it usually goes.
>>33439915
I think we all know the answer.

>>33437274 (OP)
>I’m getting an abortion tomorrow.
Good.

honestly question, how fucking hard is it to pull out? they literally teach you this in porn. all the fucking you want, plus none of the kids you DONT want.

>>33443601
>Women who have had abortions before don't speak about that part. For good reason.
The good reason is that it never happens.

>>33441393
>I have seen women get serious complications from abortions and die from them
No you fucking haven't.

>>33441393
>I have seen women get serious complications from abortions and die from them you liar. abortions are 99% fatal for the child, and some children survive abortions.
Every single word of this is a lie.

There are, of course, some risks associated with abortion but they are much, much, MUCH lower than the risks associated with giving birth. You are not going to get women to choose the *more* dangerous option by frightening them. Get some new material.

>>33443960
>honestly question, how fucking hard is it to pull out?
Fairly hard if you're a woman and he's on top of you and won't stop - why do you ask? We have no idea how OP got pregnant, but no form of contraception is 100% reliable, and that's true even when the guy isn't abusive or violent, which this guy clearly was.

>>33437274 (OP)
OP, I don't imagine you're still around after all the pointless vitriol, but if you are, I'd be interested to know how it went.

>>33441406
Either lying or an absentee parent.

>>33443601
Hypotheticals are really fun because you can make them end with an outcome that fits your own narrative.