Thread 33442288

I think women and society do a disservice to men by telling them they aren't entitled to women/relationships. These guys are already down in the dumps and don't feel worthy enough as is. The message should actually be that you are deserving of pussy/women. Whenever you see an attractive woman, you should feel like you have the right to fuck her(with consent ofc). Men don't approach women BECAUSE they don't feel worthy of pussy.

>>33442288 (OP)
>I think women and society do a disservice to men by telling them they aren't entitled to women/relationships. These guys are already down in the dumps and don't feel worthy enough as is.
Totally irrelevant. Historically, a huge plurality of men just aren't represented in the genetic record. They never reproduced. Anyone getting sad over an objective fact about history needs to toughen up


>The message should actually be that you are deserving of pussy/women. Whenever you see an attractive woman, you should feel like you have the right to fuck her(with consent ofc). Men don't approach women BECAUSE they don't feel worthy of pussy.
You don't have a right to anything that takes other people to get so that's a stupid premise

>>33442288 (OP)
>disservice to men by telling them they aren't entitled to women/relationships
They're not. Neither are women. No one is entitled to shit.
>These guys are already down in the dumps and don't feel worthy enough as is.
So? No one tells them that to make them feel better (or worse). People tell them that because it's the objective truth.

>>33442323
To your first point

> Saying “men never reproduced historically” isn’t a rebuttal — it’s an excuse to ignore real suffering. Just because something has always happened doesn’t make it right or acceptable now. Telling men to “toughen up” when they’re struggling with loneliness or rejection isn’t strength, it’s cowardice disguised as realism. No one’s saying men are owed women, but dismissing their pain outright guarantees more broken, bitter people with nothing to lose. That’s not tough love, that’s societal negligence.

>>33442288 (OP)
>I think women and society do a disservice to men by telling them they aren't entitled to women/relationships.
But they're not. They're not *entitled* to anything. If someone wants to have sex with them, and they want to as well, great; but if no one wants to, they're not entitled to a damn thing. That's just a fact.

>>33442357
They are entitled. Might makes right.

>>33442360
I think you'll find the law disagrees.

>>33442360
The average incel is a scrawny beta twerp afraid to talk to a woman or look another person in the eye.
Where is the "might" coming in here?

>>33442323
That's only true if you really squint at it. Most people literally didn't even survive to adulthood before the 19th century. Did the six year old boy who died of rubella "fail to pass on his genes?" Yeah. But that doesn't mean what you think it means. Marriage rates for adults in agrarian societies exceeded 90% and the birthrate was >5 children per woman. Even boomer men almost all have at least one child at this point. Are you saying almost all of those children are secretly illegitimate, even in a time where adultery was punished by death? If so you desperately need to stop letting your cuck fetish inform your worldview. In fact you should cut that shit out either way.

>>33442354
sure the pain and suffering is real, but because of the nature of remedying it, which takes another willing person, it can be rationally triaged to low priority pain. it's like a child losing their pet rock when their parent is buddy with actual work. there are people literally starving to death and other high intensity suffering going on. there's no doubt it's a consuming pain, and forefront in an incels mind, but that doesn't mean out of all the experiences there are, that it's that much pain overall. the coddled gifted child in a nice suburb suffers the worst they have ever suffered because of rejection and isolation, but it might be a 2 or a 3 on the scale of suffering to worry about

>>33442444
>didn't even attempt to respond

Typical. I'm so tired of psyops and people who fall for them.

>>33442288 (OP)
I agree to a point. Nobody is ENTITLED to women or sex, but every man should feel worthy of approaching a pretty woman and shooting his shot. Every man deserves love and companionship, and just because you haven't found someone yet doesn't mean that you won't.

Inceldom really breaks my heart, it's a disease of the mind first and foremost and its root cause is the unyeilding demoralization schemes on whatever dark entities want men to feel weak, sad, alone and angry. Every man has worth, every man has value, and every man deserves to see their potential.

What are you even leaving inceldom for these days? Women are so busted it's not even funny. I started getting pussy in my late 20s and I'm literally stuck at 30 unable to find a wife because they all just want to fuck around.

I genuinely have no clear idea why there is any engagement towards incels at all in society. From a biological perspective, you’d think they’d enjoy someone being excluded from the gene pool, not pitying them or acting hostile towards them.
Not like there are many who actually look that far ahead about the country's average birth rates affecting their standard of living in the future
Literally never heard anyone in my life encourage me or anyone else to marry or reproduce or even form close relationships with others at all

>>33442462
Must have never known anyone suicidal
Rejection and isolation, to enough of a degree, is not low suffering

>>33443271
>genuinely have no clear idea why there is any engagement towards incels at all in society. From a biological perspective, you’d think they’d enjoy someone being excluded from the gene pool, not pitying them or acting hostile towards them.

That kind of sociopathy isn't actually good for a group. It's better to cooperate and try to lift up members of your own tribe, generally speaking, unless they're completely irredeemable, which most incels are not.

>>33442288 (OP)
NO ONE tells incels they're ineligible for happiness. They 100% tell themselves.

Kill yourself for the weak bait