Thread 33444417

>gf talks about her sexual past
>tells me she had MMF and FFM threesomes and foursomes regularly at parties
>ask her if she ever wants to get a second girl for me because I lack the experience
>"No anon haha those days are over"
Thanks I guess.

>>33444417 (OP)
If you have any modicum of self respect you would leave that woman

>>33444417 (OP)
Yeah I’d dip

>>33444425
I was a 29 year old virgin before I met her. I really don't have any other options. I want kids and a family.

>>33444417 (OP)
ask her to sign a contract of sorts where infidelity by either party from a certain date till demise of both of you, is punishable by tortorous death. If she doesn't want to sign, you just know the jig is up

>>33444443
digits missed

>>33444417 (OP)
Why exactly do you expect her to engage in sexual acts she doesn't want to engage in? Are you a rapist?

>>33444417 (OP)
"Then I guess these days are over."
Then do a 360 and walk away.

>>33444417 (OP)
congrats on GFing a dumb whore
she could at least have had the intelligence to stfu about her sexual past
or maybe she knows she shouldn't have but has a thing for humiliating you
hmm...

>>33444443
this. Everyone needs a second chance to create a clean track record but failing to do so, especially in domains like romantic relationships, should result in the most harshest of punishments, including but not limited to death, chemical castration, etc..

>>33444417 (OP)
So, if I ate a particular food with one of my exes and found out I didn't like it, am I expected to eat it with all future boyfriends even though I know I hate it? Is that how it works?

>>33444470
Hello whore

>>33444470
No, it's more like you enjoyed eating the food very much, but then you got another chef and you don't like his food, but you still keep that chef around because he does things for you.

>>33444417 (OP)
>I was a 29 year old virgin before I met her. I really don't have any other options. I want kids and a family.

Well then you get what u deserve / make your bed now cause clocks ticking for both of you and she knows it. Honestly if this is the situation and she treats you proper and is healthy / not a landwhale -- I say keep it going , its not gonna get better for you.

What really disturbs me is:
> ask her if she ever wants to get a second girl for me because I lack the experience

You fucking retard, what girl wants to hunt for another girl for their autist partner, you think she wants to embarass herself to a girl and you just took a sour turn in her eyes also - "um excuse me? your eyes are supposed to be for me and me only" and u just outed yourself as just like "all the other guys" in her past.

The fucking hubris on some of you midwits sometimes. You better be doing damage control.

>>33444470
>regularly at parties
>regularly
come on now

>>33444445
offbyone.jpg where is >33444444
>>33444417 (OP)
How's being the safe stable easy rebound feel lmao

>>33444559
Oh fuck me I forgot the other > sign.
>>33444444 [INCREDIBLE GET]

>>33444417 (OP)
I think you've already answered your own questions (if you even had any) by basically saying you're with someone you think is out of your league and their past + the things they offer you are unsatisfactory but you're don't have enough faith in yourself to get any better, so you're gonna "settle" for this situation. Fair enough, things could be worse, but honestly I think that mindset is unbecoming for most men, I think most men with testosterone are more inclined to an "abundance mindset" that inspires them to risk worse fates for potentially greater rewards. Admittedly, if you've had a really hard life, then maybe "things could be worse" is a perfectly good place to arrive at.

I think you should tell the truth about how you feel, tell her "I don't have any of the sexual experience you have had, I would like to have it, preferably with you but you don't seem interested. This makes me unhappy, but not so unhappy that I'd leave you, but I am not with you out of genuine connection and love, because we've had very different lives, but because I don't believe I can get any better than you, though I would really like better. Do with that information whatever you think is best, but it's the truth, which isn't always pretty." and whatever happens is the best version of what could happen because it was guided by objective truth and reality. Maybe she'll empathize and what to provide you more satisfying sex, maybe she won't give the sex but try to make up for it in other ways, maybe she'll think you're a weirdo and a loser, maybe she'll leave because of it, maybe her leaving will be the lesson you need to learn to either not be as affected by a girls past OR free you up to find someone who had a more similar, non-whore life to you, which will likely make you happier. Either way, you both will learn lessons and end up where you need to end up.

>>33444476
>No, it's more like
No, it isn't. It's like there's something I once ate, but don't want to eat now, and you think you should have the right to force it down my throat.

>>33444648
No one forces it down your throat? They just walk away if they're not getting what they want. Same thing you could do, too.

>>33444425
>If you have any modicum of self respect
most people dont.

>>33444600
>I think you should tell the truth about how you feel,
are you trying to split them up? 5d chess right there

>>33444417 (OP)
>>tells me she had MMF and FFM threesomes and foursomes regularly at parties
>at parties
3/10 bait
will still get 400 replies

>>33444549
Well, yeah, so? People do all kinds of dumb shit when they're young. Then, when they get a little older, they think "Jesus, what the fuck was I thinking?" and they stop doing it. In particular, when someone is young it's much easier to bully or manipulate them into doing things. I'm a guy; when I was in my early teens I did some stupid shit that I now regret because of peer pressure. (Nothing actually criminal, but certainly dumb). Now, if you want to tell me that, back then, I was stupid and easily led, then sure, you're right: I was. But to suggest that NOT doing dumb shit and succumbing to peer pressure now is somehow wrong because I once did? That's absurd. OP's girlfriend did some dumb shit in the past that she now regrets. If you want to condemn her for that, okay; but to condemn her for NOT being young and stupid anymore is absurd.

>>33444683
Not OP, I literally went to one party in college and there was definitely a threesome in one of the rooms

>>33444684
Threesomes aren't really that big of a deal. There are 40 year old women who do threesomes.

>>33444684
no one is saying it's impossible for it to work but a virgin guy + a whore woman is a scenario that is very very very understandably unlikely to work out for very realistic reasons. A should be with a whore, a virgin should be with a virgin, much less work involved in both cases.

>>33444673
you should always tell the truth, especially in relationships, not doing so is the worst possible decision anyone could make. Should the whore woman lie about her past?

>>33444417 (OP)
>Be me a million years ago when I was 26 and single
>Meet hot girl, we hit it off, date
>5th-6th time we're having sex I ask for blowjob, she says 'I did that with my ex a few times, but I didn't like it so I refuse to do it now'
>Have sex, not beej
>Few days later She wants to go to the club to dance. I say 'I did that with my ex a few times but didn't like it so now I refuse'.
>She looks at me a long moment, processing, then says 'But I like it. Don't you want to make me happy?'
>I Say 'I told oyu I don't like it and don't want to go,'
>Another pause, then she says, 'I guess i could find someone else to take me to the club and make me happy'.
>I reply 'Then I'll find someone else to give me a blow job and make me happy. That's fair, right?'
>Another long pause, then 'but those are completely different things.'
>Me 'I asked you to do something for me that is free, takes just a few minutes, is just about you and me, and would make me happy and you said you don't want to because you don't like it. You asked me to do something that costs money, takes hours, means we have to deal with a lot of strangers, and would make oyu happy and I don't want to because i don't like it. You're right, they aren't alike, my request was much easier and personal.'
>Longest pause yet, then 'I still won't blow you.'
>Me 'and I still won't take you to the club.'
She left, I blocked her number, and was dating someone else in a week.

when I met my gf at 22 she had been with multiple men, multiple black guys, had cheated on her ex (with me) and was really into weed, drinking, partying, smoking, has tattoos, AND she came from a terrible family. I had only had sex once with one girl, but was a massive gooner and serial sexter that had a nudes collection from snapchat that was like 1000+ pics and I had also gotten head from hookers and liked strip clubs; I think she had done worse than me obviously but I don't consider myself squeaky clean.

Anyway, when we first met she absolutely love bombed me with basically two years straight of the craziest sex I could have imagined, which involved ffm threesomes with her friends. Pretty much every weekend was a 48 hour marathon of drinking and debauchery. Although I loved this for shallow reasons, I was very doubtful this girl could be a good long term option, and I did every single thing I could to shit test her and her loyalty/honesty and she passed every single one with flying colors and has done so for the whole 7 years now we've been together. I was so convinced the other shoe would drop and I'd find or come across SOMETHING that was either dishonest or a lie or a mark against her and her potential for wife and motherhood somehow, but every time I scoured her phone or laptop, every time I had friends spy on her at work, every time I asked her hard questions about herself and the future, she hasn't disappointed me even once, and on the contrary, has been bravery, endured more difficulty and pain on my behalf, and sacrificed her own opportunities and time for me in ways that I can't even imagine much "better" girls doing. She has disavowed everything bad about her past, has built herself and her career into something very respectable and enviable, has saved and invested the ways I advised her, has endured my own difficulties, struggles, etc with positive attitudes and genuine love, has never pressured me on anything, has genuinely loved me. It's possible.

>>33444778
Did you come here just to brag?

>>33444417 (OP)
This happened to me and I never got over it.

Honestly, what you should try to do is just see it as her being open with you and be thankful that she feels she can be. She's being honest about her past and her feelings. Which means you feel safe to her.

However, that's 10-years-older, more mature anon talking. It's also understandable, and natural, if you feel offended. She's talking about things she did with other men that she now refuses to do with you. That can feel insulting.

It's a tough situation. She likely isn't trying to be insulting, and if she doesn't want to do that stuff anymore, then she shouldn't feel obligated to. But then it's insulting to you if she says she gave someone else something she won't give you. But then she also probably wants to be open and not keep secrets with you.

Regardless, if I'm being honest? Nowadays I would straight up dump a girl who said that to me. Because no amount of logic or empathy is going to make me not seethe about it and I can't and couldn't get over it. It actually made me hate her and it killed our sex life, it pissed me off that bad.

>>33444698
People don't have threesomes at parties, life isn't a porn or a 1980s boner comedy where the average house party is held in a 15 room mansion.

They go home, and then they fuck.

I've been at parties, and had threesomes, and there is 0 overlap between the two.

Like

>Hey M great party, I hope you don't mind that me and K and B are gonna go in one of the two bedrooms in the apartment - probably your room - and fuck loudly in your bed for an hour or two, okay? How about we just fuck in the bathroom instead get all slippery in the shower while 8 other people are waiting to have a piss.

>>33444684
>I used to get my brains fucked out in threesomes and foursomes at parties teehee
>They fucked me so hard and so good teehee
>I got fucked by a lot of people teehee it was so hot
>But I'm not going to do any of that with you though
lmao

>>33444773
epic story
facts and logics

>>33444792
Only to say that redeeming a bad past is possible

>>33444773
>She left, I blocked her number, and was dating someone else in a week.
Thank goodness she discovered what a piece of shit you are.

>>33444704
>no one is saying it's impossible for it to work but a virgin guy + a whore woman is a scenario that is very very very understandably unlikely to work out for very realistic reasons.
Then why would her being a whore NOW improve the situation?

>>33444976
She wouldn't even suck his cock anon, it was over before it began

>>33444998
And he thinks trying to blackmail a woman into performing sexual acts she doesn't enjoy is acceptable behaviour. Thank goodness she got out when she did. God knows what he would have done to her otherwise.

>>33445009
>blackmail
lol, fucking simps.

>>33444990
i mean in the big picture i don't think it will make any difference in one way or another, but i do believe he would feel good if she did those things with him, and if she's not interested in making him feel good by doing things that are entirely understandable for him wanting and clearly within her capacity to provide, then it's no surprise he's unhappy with that. I don't think this particular situation is a make or break for the relationship, but it's understandable why he's unhappy and why everyone is raising an eyebrow at the girl

>>33444976
>>33445009
you've gotta be baiting, blackmail? really? how do you think that situation should have gone? he shakes her hand when she said she doesn't like giving blowjobs and said "hey you're a great girl but if you won't pretend to like things to make me happy, I won't pretend to like things to make you happy"

neither should pretend to like things to make the other happy. They're equal. Could he have been more graceful about it? sure maybe but they barely knew each other, it wasn't THAT much of a dick move

>>33445034
incel. No wonder you don't get laid

>>33445040
roastie toastie

>>33444442
Oh bro, but you're not a virgin anymore and you're almost 30 years old.

If your life is slightly in order, just fucking leave that cunt, you'll find someone new. If not fake and gay, you're sharing this because you're bothered. Don't just stick with a bitch that causally tells you this shit.

Usually the hardest relationship to get is the first one, then it's much easier and smoother. I never talked or touched a woman until I was 19, then I got my first gf, dated 6 months, separated and since then I've had 3 different partners (I'm 26 now).

>>33444417 (OP)
Run away, once a whore always a whore.

>>33444417 (OP)
Its really the lack of self awareness that made her comfortable to tell you this that is the bigger red flag than the actual activities themselves

>>33444417 (OP)
Does your GF look like a woman who would do these activities? Does she have tattoos? Is she white? Realistically its hard for me to believe someone would want to stop doing that kind of sex party lifestyle. Maybe for a few years to get an anchor baby, but for sure her husband will be cucked

>>33444417 (OP)
>tells me she had MMF and FFM threesomes and foursomes regularly at parties
Why are you still with her dude? She is clearly a whore

>>33444442
>I want kids and a family.
Kill yourself, imagine having kids with a whore... I wouldn't want to be born from a whore, imagine how much dick passed through her hole. Damn, FUCK YOU OP, I rather not be born

>>33444470
Shut the fuck up whore.

>>33444470
Food isnt the same thing as you getting gangbanged, you pathetic slut lmao

>>33444976
Shut up whore. Why don't you kill yourself?

>>33444976
>>33445009
Politely explaining that I expect relationships to be reciprocal is BlAcKmAiL?!
Are you 12?
If she’d just said ‘ok, since you don’t like it let’s not go to the club’ it would have been fine, I would have taken her to dinner and kept dating her.
But what she clearly proved was that she refused to do things she didn’t like but expected me to do things I don’t like.
That’s very toxic and the fact you can’t understand that does not make you look good.

>>33444470
Guy
>I took ex girlfriends to Paris, Rome, London, Morocco, Tokyo, and Sydney. I paid for everything.
Girl
>I’ve always wanted do international travel! Would you take me to London?
Guy
>I don’t like travel anymore, I won’t be taking you anywhere
Girl
>but, you did it with lots of past girlfriends! Why not with me?
Guy
>Hold on now! If I used to eat broccoli but don’t like it now would you make me eat it now?
Girl
>that is a terrible analogy. Eating is a personal action even in a group setting. You described a mutual adventure shared by two people that you willingly did multiple times with multiple other people. Not eating broccoli means you no longer value broccoli. Refusing a mutual shared adventure implies you vale me less than you valued your former girlfriends. They are nothing alike

>>33445034
>you've gotta be baiting, blackmail? really? how do you think that situation should have gone?
It should certainly not involve him saying "If you don't allow me to orally rape you then I will cheat on you" which is what he actually did say.

It's really quite disturbing that you guys haven't understood the concept of consent. Sex is supposed to be a mutually enjoyable activity: no one should ever do anything sexual they aren't enthusiastic about doing, and no one should ever want or expect someone to do anything sexual they aren't enthusiastic about doing.

How should it have gone? He should have smiled kindly and said "No worries!" and left it at that. That's what you do when someone isn't comfortable with something.

And incidentally, if you want to encourage someone to be experimental, the first thing you have to do is make them feel completely comfortable and safe. You don't achieve that by trying to pressure them into doing something they don't want to do.

>>33446077
>Shut up whore.
I'm a guy.

>>33446230
>I'm a guy.
Cut your small dicklet right now and transition, because you are not a man. The only reason whores exists in this flawed reality is because of small dicklets like you.

>>33446090
>Politely explaining that I expect relationships to be reciprocal is BlAcKmAiL?!
Dude, you told her that unless she allowed you to rape her orally, you would cheat on her. What else can you possibly call that?

>>33446243
I'm no the guy you are talking to, however, you are clearly making things up. You are either a dicklet or a whore, pick one. Either way, you should... KYS

We live in cuckold society. Every man is a cuck, passing around mediocre pussy like its Ambrosia because of long term desperation

>>33446300
I agree, but i's the fault of guys like this >>33446243

That's why, whenever there's a person like this around, I treat them like a disease, and every other man should do he same. They deserve no friends, and no pussy.

>>33446225
>>33446243
No
She said if I didn’t take her to the club she’d find a man who will - in other words, if I didn’t take her to the club SHE’D LEAVE ME.
I said if she did that - leave me- I’d get a new GF that did blowjobs.
You can’t read

>>33444417 (OP)
>frogposting ragebait with no actual question
LARP alert

>>33444442
"No other options" fucking listen to yourself man. It's more important to you to have "just any bitch" because you're existence requires you to have one even if she's awful, even if she's a detriment to you, even if she's a cunt with no respect for you who doesn't care about your desires? Let me tell you something, having nothing is better than having baggage of total fucking shit. You can be miserable all by yourself, you don't need some girl to help. For the love of God, learn how to deal with just not being with someone. Being with a used up roastie who's had pornstar sex with everyone but now won't do it for you because you're her "time to settle down" is not more fucking respectable or happy than being single, hell, even than being a virgin. Your attitude shows you lack self respect and it's pathetic, you will not be happy with or without her until you figure this out and band aiding it by staying with a whore who doesn't respect you isn't a solution or preferable.

>>33444417 (OP)
>you must fulfil these requirements to be my 153rd partner
>those before you didn't need to though
no thanks

>>33444470
This is a retarded redditism that doesn't hold up after any kind of scrutiny. I can eat food that my wife doesn't like without her. I cannot have sex with other people without her.

>>33444417 (OP)
lol, it reads like a joke

>>33444417 (OP)
>not for me
>breakup

it's so fucking over lmao bro go cut your dicklet off you pathetic cuck

>>33447086
At what point do you become a cuck merely by committing to a girl regardless of how faithful she might be? Obviously OP passed the mark but I don't think it's virgins or bust either.

>>33444417 (OP)
That's the fate of many men. You are a former 29 year old virgin experiencing his first everything with a girl with more than a decade of sexual experience over you, who already has it behind her emotionally and now wants to settle and grow old and useless. It's like if you played a co-op game for the first time ever with a friend who played it so much that he's already bored of it, where's the magic? I'm a 22 year old virgin and the gap in experience with girls my age is already too much to be compatible sometimes. If I suddenly gained the ability to get laid regularly later in life I would go for 18 years old, it's just fair.

>>33444710
>you should always tell the truth,
I do, and it doesnt work.
Occasionally I lie & it goes better.
> Should the whore woman lie about her past?
She probably will next time, after OP dumps her. She hadnt learned that lesson yet.

why do you create threads about things that never happened? you are a NEET with no life experience or gf

>>33444417 (OP)
>>33447086
>>33447379
>>33447435
this is the fucking advice board, not r9k, you worthless CIA golems

>>33447507
lying will never make anything better ultimately, it's always the worse decision. you are not a le genius edgy liar who can keep up the facade

>>33444417 (OP)
keep her around but try cheating on her, nothing is stopping you from having a ffm threesome with two other women

>>33446370
She said that if you didn't want to go clubbing, she would find someone else to dance with this one time. You said that if she wouldn't perform sexual acts with you that she hates, you'd fuck someone else. These are not even faintly equivalent. And you were surprised when she left you a week later? No one else was surprised. You're an abusive piece of shit. That's all there is to it.

>>33444425
fpbp

>>33446243
>dude herp derp strawman!
kill yourself baiting faggot.

>>33447435
>If I suddenly gained the ability to get laid regularly later in life I would go for 18 years old, it's just fair.
keep dreaming pal lol

>>33444417 (OP)
>those days are over
Do you love the woman she is now? Then who she used to be is relevant only because it helped make her who she is now.

>Me when I grow up: Oh boy Super Mario Bros.
>Most of you all: Okay so if I put the handgun sideways it's a killshot?

What the fuck is our generation.

>>33444417 (OP)
>ask her if she ever wants to get a second girl for me
>ask her
That's the mistake.

>>33444417 (OP)
Couldn't be me man , she has negative self worth and will for sure cheat on you eventually especially if she isnt sexually satisfied for what ever made up reason.

It is all so tiring

>>33449739
she didn't say she'd dance with someone else fag, she said "ill find someone else to take me clubbing", does she have to say the words "im gonna fuck someone else" to get it through your head what her intentions were? i bet you're the kind of cuck that would blame the man if the exact tables were turned and he just said
>im gonna take another girl out, no worries teehee ;)

>>33444442
>I want kids and a family
With a woman like that? You poor, desperate naive bastard

>>33444417 (OP)
Kill her

>>33446131
best post ITT

the woman posts in this thread could not be more obvious holy shit lmaoo

>>33454083
>she said "ill find someone else to take me clubbing", does she have to say the words "im gonna fuck someone else" to get it through your head what her intentions were?
NTA but that is *not* what she meant. Are you autistic?

>>33456402
and if I were to tell her I'm gonna take a different girl out on a date, how do you think she would or should respond?

>>33456501
>and if I were to tell her I'm gonna take a different girl out on a date, how do you think she would or should respond?
She'd say "I'm not talking about a date". People go clubbing with friends. I'm a straight girl, I used to clubbing with (female) friends all the time. I've been with my brother a few times too.

Those women don't do that with the people they love. If she does it again, it will be with other men who aren't you.

>>33456524
you're being pedantic and/or autistic, you really believe the girl was genuinely, with no hint of malevolent intent, just saying "I wanna dance with a friend with zero implication of any sexual desire or intention for sexual conduct with said person" when I don't think anyone other than you is getting that implication at all, what everyone is hearing is "oh you don't want to go clubbing with me? then I'll go clubbing with someone else (probably a guy) with the intention of flirting and potentially having sex with them instead of you, since you won't go clubbing with me"

>>33444417 (OP)
I sleep with 2-3 girls from Tinder a month instead of bothering with relationships and I've been much happier since but that's me

>>33456702
but wut r u gonna do when you're older and no one wants you and you have no kids or family anymore? do u think you'll be happy? genuinely curious

>>33456707
I have a kid from a previous relationship and don't want any more

Tell her she can either enjoy a threesome with you or not but you're going to have one.

>>33456646
Okay, seriously, anon, let me tell you how that conversation went, viewed from her perspective.

Anon: "Suck my dick."

Girl: "I'm sorry, I really don't like that."

Anon: "How do you know if you haven't tried?"

Girl: "Well, I have...."

Anon: "If you've done it with someone else then you HAVE to do it with me. Suck it, bitch."

Girl: "But that's how I know I don't like it! Please don't ask me to!"

Anon is visibly furious. Girl feels miserable and guilty but hopes this will blow over. A few days later:

Girl: "Hey, anon, wanna go clubbing?"

Anon: "No."

Girl: "Oh, that's cool, I'll go with a friend."

Anon: "If you go clubbing with someone who isn't me, I'll have someone else suck my dick."

Girl: "Sorry, what?!"

Anon: "You heard me, bitch. If it's okay for you to go dancing with someone else, it's okay for me to fuck another woman."

Girl: (now crying) "What are you talking abou- okay, if it matters that to you that much, I won't go dancing with my friend! I'm sorry! I didn't mean to upset you."

The next day, girl messages her friend, tells her about both conversations. Friend says "Jesus, that guy sounds like an abusive piece of shit. You need to get out of there before he hits you." Girl says "Oh God, you're right, you're right..." and the next day she breaks up with you.

That is GENUINELY what the conversation looked like from her side. And if you think it didn't, why did she leave you?

>>33456991
there's a possibility that's how it went from her perspective, but you're just assuming that, now we're all assuming ofc, but most people here are assuming that it's nothing like the headcanon you just wrote out. Now what are the odds you happen to assume correct and everyone else is assuming wrong?