Thread 33445248

I’m supposed to talk to women without the expectation of a relationship yet also let her know I like her and want a relationship with her. I think it’s just my country that’s fucked up

99% of advice is retarded.

>>33445248 (OP)
Just be tall (95th percentile height) and handsome. Simple as. Women want to start a family with such a man and would much rather be his bitch than a wife of an avg looking beta buxzx deluxe. Why do men make it so difficult when women are such simple creatures

>>33445248 (OP)
There's a much easier way to look at it, don't disregard this, give it a second thought before you type your reply:

You talk to a woman with the intention (and maybe also expectation) of having a relationship with her and you let her know that you like her and want a relationship with her.

It's what you do AFTER she rejects you that matters here - you DROP the expectation and move on.

Expectation is totally okay, what the people are telling you in advice that is lost in translation is that you should be able to handle rejection without getting salty over it, that's why they keep using the word "expectation" - they don't want you to come into the interaction expecting a relationship from the girl because they assume that you will then be bitter when your expectations aren't met, so they say "don't expect anything" because they want you to not get disappointed, when in reality - to get something means you have to want it or expect for it. So, expecting is totally fine, Its just that you gotta know how to recognize and handle rejection and let go of your expectation as soon as you're rejected.

>t. guy who's relationships only started from online but still led to IRL with a 5 year long relationship with 4 years living together

>>33445248 (OP)
I can’t figure out which possible interpretation of OP is dumber
>every discussion I have with women is about making a relationship
or
>I only talk to women you are very attracted to
or
>I fall in love with every woman I talk to

This several reasons
>People just not getting it
>Dating is constantly changing
>>33445677
This

What that retarded advice is trying to tell you to do is find a woman with similar interests that enjoys talking to you but also understands you're open for a relationship.

>>33445248 (OP)
It's fucked to say but I literally met my wife after I had given up on dating and was planning on killing my self at 30. 33 married with a kid now. I just met her at a bar and we started talking about stuff we like. Neither one of us are super attractive but we share so many interests that it is fun. Just be yourself is the best and worst advice. People can tell when you're being fake and most people will not like you for you but you can maybe find someone who likes you for you and chances are they won't be hot. That's life.

>>33445677
>just be tall
how might one attain top 5% height, o wise one?

>>33448958
This. If you're shorter than 5'10 just go trans

>>33448958
Limb lengthening surgery if you're just below the top 20 %ile. Well if you don't, tfl. You literally are either better of trying your luck being a single dad using egg donors & surrogacy or partaking in an incel revolt

>>33445248 (OP)
>yet also let her know I like her and want a relationship with her.
Uh...this is most definitely NOT what you are telling her the first time you talk to her OP. Are you retarded?

>>33445248 (OP)
Talking to women puts you into an inferior position, you are a beggar and she is the master. You are begging her to be accepted to be her slave, that's humiliating to you and cringe to her. Any relationship that begins this way and you'll be her doormat while she fucks Tyrone on the side. The only proper way to get a girlfriend is to not prostrate yourself before her feet, and approaching to be her entertainer is exactly that.

>>33445701
men are supposed to handle rejection, but I've never met a woman who could handle rejection

>>33445248 (OP)
Dating women = fucking around whore

That is why dating is retarded. Usually 80% of humanity manage breeding by families introduce and fix youth in to marriage.

You do not need GF (good for fuck) girlfriend, but wife for life.
So before you start fucking you make nest for eggs. Where to live how to fit in the fabric of society all those things are taken care of in a period of courtship. You marge two families in one and there opens new opportunities for both sides.
All of that, instead of eating popcorn and fucking at the cinema.