Thread 33510688

What are some ways to deliver a sermon?
I want people to really believe in god. I really believe in him too. Does anyone here have any powerful anecdotes about miracles or things like that? Sometimes I watch black priests get a little…. crazy…. on the stand. Should I do that?

>>33510688 (OP)
To deliver a sermon what you do is pick a handful of verses from the bible, then read them out enthusiastically, and afterwards you then extract the moral lessons from them and pair them to situations or feelings or problems that everyday people face in real life. The point of the sermon is to demonstrate that the human in 2025 A.D. is no different to the human in the year 1 A.D. Even the humans from 1,000 B.C. three thousand years ago. "Nothing new under the sun". etc.

This then directs the listeners to look past the modern distractions of technology, finance, politics, and globalised quarreling and instead inspires them to look within, to perform an 'examination of conscience', to count their faults or their blessings and also to reflect on how they regard their neighbours, the 'other', their fellow humans. And of course to revere the eternal Providence of God, to implore them to desire and seek alignment with His will.

>>33510688 (OP)
You shouldn't preach or deliver sermons unless you're an ordained priest in a mainline Nicene church. There are already enough self-ordained hucksters mutilating the meaning of the Word

>>33510743
>Gatekeeps the Word
>Wonders why Western world has become secular

Bravo

>>33510688 (OP)
Read in the old testament about God's chosen people genociding a city then apply it to current times.

>>33510688 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/@SundayswithAscension
https://www.youtube.com/@BreakingInTheHabit
Here's a gold mine, these 2 channels, but they are Catholic so let that be your own judgement.
Other than that testimonials of people who've found Christ would do perfectly!

>>33510758
The problem is that people will often times implement their own interpritation and will deviate from the fundamentals, the Nicene Creed is the definition of Christianity, its theological backbone.
>>33510808
God Giveth, God taketh, the fact that God gives us more time to repent instead of destroying us for our sin like he did with the gentiles proves his mercy.

>>33510921
Recommending two gay channels is not helpful. MHFM all the way, besides them Dr. Pietre or what's his name and Fr. Isaac Maria Relya.

>>33510949
>Recommending two gay channels is not helpful.
Ephesians 5:4.
Avoid obscentities/coarse joking.

>>33510758
"Revivalists", prosperity gospel hucksters and "born-again" heretics have done more damage to Christianity in the West than anyone else.
We cannot have faith that Jesus personally reached out to and ordained you, no matter ow strong your faith in that is. That is why we have the church, because we can actually trace back all of those ordained priests to people who actually were ordained by Christ directly.

>>33510921
I fully believe in the catholic faith and always have.

The best priest is a priest among the people. If you constantly live in seclusion and prayer and all that holy shit, you won't be able to deliver sermons the average joe can connect with. Sure, some might consider you well-spoken, and your homilies full of thought, but without experience down in the trenches with the rest of us of temptation and debauchery and despair, you will forever be just a droning voice to fall asleep to every Sunday.

Go live life, and come back with your reflections on it, and how you feel God moving through it all, and how it all connects to the very plain story that repeats infinitely in the Holy Word. Best of luck.

>>33511864
Proddie moment if I ever saw one
I go to a FSSP Traditional Latin Mass parish, one of the priests there lived his life as a normal man expecting to get married and have a business, but his gal fucked him over and he was called to his true purpose. He was also a very good cook and rode a motorcycle, cool guy and I 'm gonna need to visit him at his new parish one day (FSSP are in high demand since more and more people are getting into trad Mass)
All that "holy shit" has meaning and is part of maintaining a connection with God, and you'd learn that if you actually went to a proper Mass and paid attention. Yeah Jesus was among the people but he was reverent as all get out, he held a Passover seder and cleansed the temple of money changers for His sake. Just being some hippy that says "hey man let's talk about Jesus and love and stuff no judgement haha we're all human" is actually insulting to His Ministry and Sacrifice.
Everyone remembers "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." No one seems to remember "now go and sin no more."

>>33510688 (OP)
To be honest anon I cannot even imagine anything a person could just say to me and convince me to believe in God. I don't think there is any combination of words that could produce that effect.

That's just me though. There are a lot of simpletons out there though.

>>33511998
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/news/brain-magnets-decrease-faith-in-god-religion-immigrants-a6695291.html

>>33510688 (OP)
>What are some ways to deliver a sermon?
Naked
Standing on your head
Through the medium of interpretive dance
With fire and brimstone
Backwards
Through charades
In Urdu

>>33511981
>describes a cool down to earth priest
>thinks he's disagreeing with me
Obviously there's a place for the holy shit, every priest has to do their divine office. But to do much more than that, at the expense of time spent with the flock, to me, means you're a monk not a pastor and you should figure out which role you prefer instead of double dipping.

And I speak from (Catholic) experience, as I sleep through just about every homily my current pastor gives, because though he is able to be jovial and lighthearted, his order causes him to be prudish (such that to even have a meal together with him outside of Church is basically once-in-a-lifetime never to be repeated) and too holy to relate to. The most relatable he gets in his homilies is to say "we're watching these unbecoming things on netflix but we could be doing something more edifying with our time" (which is valid, just boring especially in repetition).

And ofcourse, such a priest would never criticize his fellow priests in a homily; but sometimes we need to hear it...hear the priest himself's struggles, hear him criticizing leadership and such....something besides a bland commentary on the readings.

>>33514106
> sleep through just about every homily my current pastor gives, because though he is able to be jovial and lighthearted, his order causes him to be prudish (such that to even have a meal together with him outside of Church is basically once-in-a-lifetime never to be repeated) and too holy to relate to.
That's sad. You might just need to find another parish then.
At the same time, maybe try praying for humility and energy to actually get something from those services?
At that same FSSP parish the pastor (the motorcycle priest was the vicar), we have a very devout priest who is possibly one of the most serious men about salvation I've ever met. The "fires of hell" is a free space in his homily bingo if you catch my drift. I'm even afraid to confess to him, I try to do confession at another parish because doubtless he knows my voice by now and he once even denied me absolution until I came back and took measures to "try harder."
I still recognize he is very very serious about people's salvation, and the church. He's more educated about the church than any man I know and even with everything he's still my pastor and that's still my parish. I know God wants me to listen to those seemingly holier-than-thou homilies because He has my salvation in mind first and last.

Sorry about the Proddie crack earlier, but come one man read what you wrote lol.

>>33511998
The great enlightenment will come one day. As a child, I was in pain once and I prayed until god finally relieved me from that pain. I was like god please make it stop, and then magically it did! It was very strange. I vowed from that day that I would never stop believing.
I want to bestow this knowledge onto as many people as possible.
Are there any ways I could appeal to you, a nonbeliever?

>>33514106
>>33514328
Also I should relate both motorcycle priest and hellfire priest love going to dinners and hosting youth group events
So yeah maybe a different parish but I'd recommend praying a Rosary and asking Mary to run it up to God to see how you can get more out of Mass. Every time I go to my usual parish I feel spiritually fulfilled even if I've sinned and can't receive the Eucharist. Is this the case for you?

>>33514400
Thank you for your words and yes certainly there is a need for what you have described as well. I'll admit I'm in a terrible place spiritually so I don't feel much of anything from mass. But somehow God seems to be guiding things well for me answering prayer and not letting me suffer too much so certainly mere presence at mass is a boon and God is working through my priest. And I haven't really prayed on this issue so surely that's a good start.