Thread 33516856

How do those of you in your late 20s and up (30s 40s etc) view the world today vs the past? How do you cope with how different stuff is? I genuinely feel there was some kind of society level shift that happened by the mid 2010s we have never recovered from. People seem to argue more, are overly opinionated about everything, they seem to trust eachother far less, people seem to just be more negative, argumentative, and less fun in general to be around. It seems harder to make friends and in general I would just argue that things have gotten worse since around 2014-2016 for society in general. i feel like we moved from a high trust society to a low trust one. I would argue that the 90s and 2000s were much healthier in general but I would also say things still felt mostly normal and good up until around 2014-2016.

I think a major cause of this has been downstream effects of every single person in society being chronically online everyday for years. Up until around 2007 basically 40% of Americans didn’t even have home internet. (Look it up) by 2014-2016 people had smartphones so they were online constantly. Is it a coincidence that society felt so much different almost immediately after this? I don’t think so but I could be wrong.

A lot of people made jokes leading up to 2012 about it being the “end of the world” and I can’t help but remember that stuff because honestly that was one of the last years where things felt mostly normal. I can still make friends just about wherever I go but it doesn’t feel the same. people in general just feel different and even when I make friends in a new area with some new group of people I still sort of feel like I’m on my own most of the time or I can’t be 100% myself around them the majority of the time. It’s not the same.

There are a lot of things I miss about the past but really this is the main issue. I think something about the average person in general has changed.

you are right. the world is getting more miserable

I think people nowadays have just lost their ability to connect with others to the point that it's a nonfactor for them. Most of our traditional social institutions have been replaced with slop social media.

But youre definitely right, something very wrong has happened to the average person.

>Acceptance
That's how I cope. It is what it is and won't go back, the internet and social media have destroyed a part of our humanity and societies. Nothing I can do to change it, so I just accept it and try to focus on what i can change and improve in my own life
>Gratitude
I'm grateful I grew up in the 80's and 90's to have experienced it. Our few generations will be the only ones in history to have seen before and after the internet which is kind of cool

>>33516856 (OP)
Internet was never meant for stupid people.
It was cool when only high IQ dudes populated it. Freedom, no censorship, anonymity, etc.

Then it become a mean to control, extort and milk ALL the population and it turned into a filthy swamp.

the internet is the biggest thing that's ever happened to society
apparently boomers can't see that and refuse to change their behavior at all
they're such a big population that they've mentally beaten everyone else into submission, and held up their massive exploitation systems

hope ended with the GFC, when we got bank bailouts instead of a guillotine

>>33516856 (OP)
I try to live like it's the 90s wherever I can. Almost exclusively offline games, call more than I text, my music taste is the best of Credence Clearwater Revival and Jim Croce, my fiance and I frequent the movie theater when we have time to burn, and we like going to social events like conventions and cultural celebrations.
I'm not a luddite by any means, I'm the go to tech-guy for my friends and family and have a pretty kickass gaming pc, still have instagram and snapchat to shoot the shit with people and doomscroll memes when I have nothing else to do, but I avoid the news like plague and focus on what's near to me before indulging in my hobbies. Lately my buddies have been bugging me to host a DnD night and we're getting back into tabletop stuff. I vote in elections and do my research on who and why, but beyond that there's not much I can do to change the world so I make little consolations and enjoy my place in it.

I talk to everyone with respect and get the same treatment back, I'm pretty redneck blue collar type so you'd figure the blue hair LBGT crowd would give me grief but I've never had an issue with any of them; I have close friends who are dating or are themselves identifying as they them so I just don't ask anything more than that and accept people as they come.

It's a good life if you don't let the division tactics and fear mongering get you down.

>>33516856 (OP)
You are not going to believe it...
I actually lived the day the first BLOG appeared.

Everyone though "poor bipolar girl writing this...". We couldn't call it "cringe", because "cringe" was still not invented.

We didn't know back then, but it was the beginning of the end.

>>33516856 (OP)
My dad refused to get a computer until his job made him get an email in 2000.
I didn't start using internet until I was 15 in 2007 looking for anime episodes.

>>33516856 (OP)
I got it all figured out for you.

9/11 was the major shift not 2014. everything's been equally as shitty since 9/11 just in slightly different configurations

>>33516856 (OP)
On one hand, some of it is very cool.

Like I remember being obsessed with Japanese music in the 00s, but it was essentially impossible to find online as a casual fan. Even the few bands I knew of it was impossible to find anything beyond a few Real Player clips.
These days I can easily do a deep dive on any music Japanese genre and download the entire discography of any group or artist.

I know that (25 year old) kids to day love to argue about how social media and dating apps are to blame for everything bad, but we still dated online 20+ years ago via shit like Myspace or MSN Messenger and ICQ. I know married couples who met through the early days of WoW. I'm sure some future 40 year old married couple has met on Discord or Fortnite or whatever the meta is these days.

What I'm not a fan of is streaming and streaming culture, and also how quick everyone is to pull out their phones when anything happens. Concerts are fuckin lame now no one moshes or dances it's just zombies standing around staring at the concert through their phone screen recording everything for no one in particular. Girls don't flash their tits anymore too because of that, and having sex in public is almost practically impossible.
I'm also very lucky I grew up and got out of high school and even college before everyone started recoding each other all the time like if two people get into an argument or some kid is being teased or someone's having a nervous breakdown or whatever of course everyone is going to film it from 15 different angles.

This AI shit is going to lead us nowhere good as well, already it's making everyday life worse and starting to eliminate jobs while doing nothing really equally good in return.

I miss the 90s and early 00s, the late 00s onwards especially the 2010s I don't care for at all in terms of culture (but even now seem better than our current year). But at the same time I'm extremely grateful I got to experience those years

honestly i don't even know.
im 33 but recently started to try to become more of a 'normalfag' since a girl recently gave me attention for some reason and this inspired me to give dating a try.
all the content and suggestions i find is being done with people in the 18-25 age group in mind. i realized i'm too old to mix in with that type of 'culture', or like going on bars, cold approaching young chicks as a 30+ year old, etc.

i really don't know what people in my range are up to if they don't already have a family and the birth/marriage rate is so bad i definitely cant be in the minority.

>>33516856 (OP)
Yes, Biff became president, irl - twice, just so the stupidity of the voters wasn't clear enough.

>>33519980
I have a friend who's 34 and he's both hanging out with people his age and people in their 20's without any issues. We go to raves, he cold approaches chicks with moderate success and generally he's fun to be around and also have some deep conversations with. Just don't give any fuck about your age.

>>33519926
This is the truth. The 9/11 ritual changed the world for the worse. Fuck Israel and their puppets

If we blow up the world's largest semi conductor chip factory it would unironically factory reset cyberspace as it would have a domino effect on manufacturing computers and phones.

Fuck the Chinese, BUT if that 1 factory was toast. It could help.

Or we just drag and shoot every higher up techbro and AI developer around the world and GG we can have web 1.0/2.0 again

>>33521956
>Or we just drag and shoot every higher up techbro and AI developer around the world and GG we can have web 1.0/2.0 again
nah, engagement with likes and updoots was the real genie that escaped. we can never go back. even if we went back to only what could be done on pentiums and 56k modems at this point there'd still be downvoting and censoring opinions on every single site

This isn't THE issue by any means, but I find the internet has cheapened my ideas. Instead of being guided by an idea, or mulling it over and bouncing it off my friends and evolving it, or translating it into a book or some other fulfilling creative medium - I just spit it into the ether, and that's that.

Kind of like what I'm doing right now.

These days it's worse than that, because my aborted ideas are feeding adaptive machine learning databases meant to replace the person I could've been.

>>33516856 (OP)
Things are better than ever in today's world. I do not cope with how different things are, I use technological progress to my advantage as an end-user. There was no society level shift, war and atrocities have been happening since the beginning of time. People seem to argue more because people are realizing that you don't get anything you want without hard work. It was always a low trust society with 2A. It is harder to make friends because people are stupid and isolated. Things have not gotten worse, you are just waking up to the real level of human degeneracy and violence. This website is proof of how terrible humans can be. Those violent people are invisible like the wind, they will never say any of this 4chan shit to your face, and if they do, calculate whether or not you want to take their life. The 90s and 2000s were just as fucking stupid as now, only you didn't have technology to witness it because media was censored and the stuff that was uncensored was the media that the government or corporations wanted you to know. It's the same as today, only more extreme and more likely to take and random individual out. The world has never been normal, and the reason you felt normal is because your parents raised you in a peaceful environment as all parents should do.

Not every person is online, but the ones that say they do not use their phones are lying straight to your face. You can't even look at your bank account without a phone. Statistics can be made up, it's up to you to figure out your own personal statistics based on the things God or the world allows you to discover. You cannot see everyone on the planet with a smartphone, it's curated by the algorithms to show you what the algorithm thinks you need. Society has changed because of technological progress. Humans are not rational beings.

>>33516856 (OP)
I recommend not thinking about how the past was so much better than now, and instead to build the future with the skills you developed in accordance with technology. If you don't feel the same with making friends, then you might have changed. I do feel the same way on this.

Yes, the average person has changed due to information overload through media. But you can still make a difference by reducing suffering somehow someway.

Smartphones changed everything, mostly for the worse. The world has become more anxious and miserable, it's a feedback loop.

>>33522806
This is supercopium. All these things you say technology has improved can also be found in the 2000s, except most people would agree that that was a better than currently. The current and future generations will only see the negatives of the new exploitative technology.

I feel bad for the kids in this generation. Theyre gonna grow up with nonexistent childhoods. Most of them also act abnormally.

Ofcourse you can ignore the world around you and word hard to get the things you want, but the one thing you cant do very easily is change the people around you and their attitudes.

>>33522881
You have been empowered by the liberal values of freedom of speech. This is a virtue of our time and can and will be abused. None of what I wrote is cope, you are just not accepting of the real truth. In ancient societies, people easily starved to death. Most people were peasants or slaves without any access to the liberties and rights you have today, no matter what country you live in. Technology only allowed your liberties and rights to be expressed in a globalized setting, where you could access any community you so desired. Your freedoms today far outweigh the freedoms of your ancestors. The negatives of technological progress are self inflicted and largely due to ignorance, indignation, or a lack of education in any area. Your perception of society having no virtue or good will is completely wrong. There will be no negatives of technology, technology is there to benefit the user and not impede it. There has never been a technology that didn't allow for more efficiency or more utilization, younger child or older person. You should feel bad for yourself instead of some younger kids who will outlive us. Children are intelligent and are capable of realizing the negativity that this world offers. You and I have already been marred.

As for your final sentence, you can change the people around you. Look for new opportunities to escape your social Hell. Find a church. Go to university. Become a security guard. Walk the dog at the park. Turn off social media for 3 hours and watch some TV instead. You'll find that there's still people who have beat all the negative odds of being a piece of shit and instead have extended a helping hand through media.

>>33522925
Nta, but I'd say the opposite. Read "Industrial Society and Its Future" for a detailed breakdown of why this is the case. Technology has robbed us of our purpose, our communities, and our freedom. We now live in a surveillance/police state with almost nowhere to escape to. You are literally forced to participate in a system you hate and want no part of. At least your ancestors could just literally walk away from tyranny. A secession of the plebes is infeasible nowadays.

>>33522946
Your ancestors could not "walk away" from tyranny. It was enforced and impossible to defeat. Blood was shed by your ancestors so you could have a masturbation session to Candy Love. Discrimination was actualized and material. You seem to be highly educated in internet culture instead of material reality and history. This is why you are using memetic slang to shit on my writings because you are not able to understand how much freedom you truly have. The state has enforced this sort of culture onto you, and the fact that you regard my writings as false shows that your level of spiritual understanding is quite low while your level of memetic understanding remains high.

>>33522806
Reddit ꜱoyboy NWO-propaganda opinion

>>33522975
None of what I said was an opinion, but you're free to go damn yourself to the 9th Circle of Hell, if you so wish, peasant.

>>33516856 (OP)
The U.S. is a total shithole, but you should travel because not everywhere is a shithole. I won’t tell you where is still good, but I’ve found quite a few places. The U.S. and the U.K. stand out as destroyed though and when you go to the right places it only confirms it.

>>33523004
I was raised in chaos. I was born for this time just like everyone else here. I don't care about where is better because I am already well traveled. I'm gonna remain in an English speaking country and ride it out until WW3 or the next nuclear bomb. If I get killed, then fuck it, see you in the next life.

>>33522956
Nigger, people are being put in jail for correctly calling men dressing up as women men. People expressing opinions are being jailed and their lives ruined. You are tracked, monitored, and surveilled 24/7/365. Your fucking vehicle has engine control modules that receive instructions and can be shut down remotely or even be commanded to lock in rev until it literally explodes into a fireball going 130mph with you inside like Obama did to Michael Hastings because he was working on exposing Obama's massive illegal surveillance programs. If you actually knew jackdick about history you would realize that the history-wide and worldwide phenomenon of outlaws and highwaymen is a direct result of the governments of ages past having far less reach, scope, and control than today's tyrants do. The tyrants have just learned to be more subtle, convincing, and have learned to trick the masses into worshipping and even fighting for their own enslavement. Every time i hear this gay r*ddit speech about how the world has never been better, I know its because thought-outsourcing losers cannot imagine a world where they could determine their own destiny without relying on technology or bureaucratic systems.

You have been programmed to believe your chains are your liberation and it chafes you to hear anyone speak the truth that your gilded chains are still chains nonetheless.

No

>>33523025
And the fact that you are gonna sit down, turn on your computer or phone, sip some water, take a piss, eat some food, read some memes, then continue to do nothing and act like you're some political savior or liberator shows that you will and can do nothing against the very systems that exist for your individual benefit.

>>33522925
>There will be no negatives of technology, technology is there to benefit the user and not impede it
You are either a shill or are baiting.

People in much higher places use technology to spread harmful agenda in a way that was never ever possible in any time of history.

Every benefit of technology you state, free speech, a more interconnected and vocal world, unlimited information etc. has been present since the 2000s. Yet most people were more content and less anxious about technology at that time. Thus must mean our technology has evolved in a malicious manner.

>>33523042
You are completely uneducated about what technology actually does to the laborer or the individual business person. Please study more in the textbook instead of Wikipedia, a tertiary source. You can even go outside and experience technological progress for yourself when you try to use a QR code to access the menu. Technology might be malicious, but are you sure that you are not identifying myself as the enemy instead of the very things you want to topple. You won't topple anything posting on an internet forum that protects the stupid. Instead, you should be doing research and advancing humanity to some point of humanistic knowledge, but instead you stay here on the Forum and debate endlessly with no action. As soon as opposition appears (me), you resort to analytical words to make my words appear as false to whoever manages to stumble upon this thread. I find it hilarious that this has been ongoing since I touched the computer and accessed internet for the first time. Maybe instead of debating endlessly with no reward or fruit, study more about the people and societies who experienced the level of social upheaval for themselves and actually wrote something down for us to recover thousands of years later.

>>33523065
Please reply to what i typed and not some random ad hominem bullshjit.

If I dont debate how am i supposed to know that I am wrong.

The fact that i can order a big mac and get it in 5 minutes does not negate the fact that the feds probably know how many hairs are on my nutsack.

>>33523040
He's leading the only existence available to him, you retard.

>hurr hurr we all have a choice, you could just live in the woods

Shut the fuck up you are beyond disingenuous

>>33523065
You have been typing this feel good nonsense for much time now without directly replying to any of the arguments that various people have made here.

Your reply of every criticism is that "You live in a world where you wont be slaughtered by some rando".

Hence it is good that there is microplastics in my food i cant eat without getting undiscovered disease and i have 0 privacy, people are being jailed for having opinions ? You can retain every benefit of technology whilst deleting these previous factors. In fact for a short amount of time it was, but not anymore.

Please reply to this exact previous statement.,

>>33523088
Ok random 4channer that we will most likely meet and be partners and you will be president and I will be your executioner!

The people in power today are there for a reason, legal or illegal. What they want us to know is exactly what they want us to know. That is the definition of power. You do not know anything about a powerful person except for what they want you to know. People who do know things about powerful people are silenced, killed, or paid off. At best, they become employees. This is a tale as old as time, and the public is subject to this sort of knowledge. People who use technology to spread (what you call) harmful propaganda are incredibly weak and pathetic. You, as a power person capable of wielding the entirety of 4chan (or Forum) debate, hold the royal scepter. What you say is what the 4chan masses generally agree with at the time being.

>Every benefit of technology you state, free speech, a more interconnected and vocal world, unlimited information etc. has been present since the 2000s

I don't personally see anything wrong with this, unless it is true that you suspect that some individuals have accessed the knowledge of evil? demons? anime super powers? devils? or maybe just how to fucking build a bomb bro. I think what you are saying about people being less anxious about technology in the past is false. The TV was a massive change in public perception because it showed that the U.S was basically killing people for the funsies in Vietnam or whatever else guns and weapons do in actual combat with armies.

Probably, I personally am just like you, only in a different body and a different upbringing. We probably have both been scammed in the game, scammed in real life, been in fights, had to do school endlessly, learned english, and a bunch of other things that are COMMON for young people in the 2000s (assuming you are born in this era). Technology, to the ones who are empowered by it, is not malicious.

>>33523107
Yes but what I said is true. But honestly you could still be slaughtered by some random just like in the video games and only your parents and friends would go to your funeral. Sorry to break that to you.

You need to get vaccinated to make your body combat disease. That is science at work. You have privacy, but what the federal government or the FBI or CIA or whatever 3 letter agencies around the world want to know, they will discover regardless of your consent! That is just how things get done, and how you get provided with the things you truly need. Even if the things you need to hide is discovered, God or the Devil knows, so what's the point of hiding everything? Of course, it is social points or maybe, even things you need to take to the grave. I probably also have microplastics in my body. I am still alive and so are you, but that is not a problem for either of us to solve, instead, we need those med beds from Elysium the movie. Impossible, I know, but fuck it! As commoners, or maybe even the internet elite, which I do like, but you guys are cruel mean and sadistic and perverted, we have no control over what the most evil men in the world want to do to us. If there was a solution, my input is that it would need a writing on Satan. Where there is only the book of Job and basically whatever is evil in the world (although that is also subjective to experience). One man's trash is another mans treasure. The problem of evil is not yours to solve. It is Gods. Even if you don't believe in God, you cannot tell me that you will stop all evil as one man alone. I am not even evil. Ok bro.

>>33523102
That is not the only existence available to him! You can be like Kev Jumba and become a monk. You can be like Bear Grills and go live in the woods or desert. You just have to work out really hard, train yourself to abandon tech, maybe even bring some stuff from civilization with you, and somehow find a place where the government wont find you and kick you out. It's entirely possible, but you think it's impossible because the people who've DONE IT DON'T COME BACK! Research Enkidu and Gilgamesh, or simply watch Fate Strange Fake.

>>33523040
Stop fedposting. I never claimed to be a polotical activist or savior. Pointing out the corruptions of some system and advocating for a return to human dignity does not mean someone is going to commkt terroristic acts or even wants to. I can tell that ypu have no intellectual weight behind any of your mindless drivel because when direct opposition engages you, you flounder away and resort to absolute non-sequitors, or simply re-iterate your baseless claims that are being challenged without addressing the criticisms set against it. Your mind has no bite and produces nothing of value. You regurgitate programming because you lack the spark of pneumaticism. You are, in my mind, a prime example of how the reliance on the technology that ever relentlessly advances and tramples the human experience produces unthinking, soulless bugmen who revel in their own slavery. You are sick, and I truly hope one day you get well and realize how wrong you are now.

>>33523224
Time will tell who is the real fed poster. You seem to be feeding the masses with your memetic truths instead standing your ground physically and combatively with our God Given Arms. It's amazing how much you have been lied to in order to feed your sense of reality. Our views clearly clash and only one will survive. Oh well! You can't kill me, and I can't kill you, but we can pretend to be enemies on this very site until the day where we shed blood. It's amazing how you fantasize about this corrupt government when they are LITERALLY the ones giving you access to clean fresh water, and a whole variety of food to eat given to you by the government who you so despise so clearly very much. If you wanna do something, take action and DOXX me for the world to see. But unfortunately, I am protected by my government, and so are you! Again, I exist. So what's the deal smarty pants? You mad cuz bad? Who is the real enemy here? You are critiquing my writing despite not being an educator. You are also using "fedposter" as some sort of call to revolution in the mind, when we all know that violence transcends words. Enjoy eternity being correct, knowing that my allies are more dangerous and more capable than any allies you will ever possess.

>>33516856 (OP)
>How do those of you in your late 20s and up (30s 40s etc) view the world today vs the past? How do you cope with how different stuff is?
Rise in telecommunications good
Rise in authoritarianism bad
Jews ousted from power good
People in power still want to genocide whites bad
Also yes people do run their mouths more but they're also more fake, because they chase clout instead of trying to connect honestly.
Is the world more miserable? No, but it sure as fuck is more loud.

>>33519693
That's great for you anon, truly nice to read in this place.

>>33519926
>>33521878
So why not the JFK assassntn?

>>33523246
>admits to being fed and fedposting
Kek. This is new

>the government gives us everything and must be worshipped!
Only a fed could be this much of a statist lapdog goon

>>33523246
>thinks he's on the same team as the guys in power
buddy..

>>33524411
Hello dumbfuck. I’m doing this all for free. You clearly cannot read. Enjoy hedonism.

>>33524449
If you can’t beat them, join them

>>33516856 (OP)
Coronahoax exposed the goyim on levels never before thought possible. We already had a decent idea of who the jews, elites, corporations, governments and the occultists really were and while there have been a lot of new revelations regarding their plans nothing pales in comparison to how much the goyim have been unmasked.

The fuckers who pushed it were geniuses and deserve our gratitude for exposing how foolish and willing to betray us most people really were. The real criminals are the morally sanctimonious narcissists who put their faith in governments and pharmaceutical mega corporations. Every day average "law abiding citizens" are the reason the world we live in is in such turmoil and full of suffering.

>>33524581
>enjoy hedonism
thats pretty funny if you're not pants-on-head retarded

>>33516856 (OP)
I cope by being a sex tourist in the Philippines. I fucked almost an entire family in the Philippines:

1) the 18 year old daughter, this all started with her. she was dtf a foreigner. 1 hour after meeting her I was barebacking her in my bed.
2) her 22 yo sister that I met while "dating" the 18 year old, she went behind her sisters back to get my creampie. Sister eventually found out. Drama....but we still fucked regularly.
3)the gay brother who was a ladyboy, sucked my dick and swallowed. Fucked him in the ass since he begged for it. Looked a lot like his sisters. 39kg and 5' 2". Prostate orgasm from being pounded. Pretty cute.
4)the 45 yo mom. I had known all of them for about two years at this point and she was well aware of what I was doing to her daughters. I seduced her and came inside of her.
5) the 35 yo aunt. I got her pregnant since she lived like 10minutes away and came over every day after he work to fuck and get a creampie. She was surprised she got pregnant (again). I wasn't. My kid from her is 4 years old now.
6) aunt 2. Met me through aunt 1. I fucked her while aunt 1 was in the other room. She knew. Begged me to cum inside of her. Had baby rabies since her sister was pregnant at the time and it was making her jealous.

Their other brother worked at sea on a ship so I couldn't get my hands on him. Dad was dead and probably rolling in his grave.

the internet was fun until about 2012

>>33528894
I enjoyed reading this post, 4fag is good entertainment

>>33522835
I agree with this. It's an endless dopamine rush we seek. It builds anxiety and depression.

I also agree with the 9/11 incident being a major world turning point. Covid 19 was also but not as much though I did lose 1 year off my life hibernating out of fear brought on by the media.

AI is another major life altering turning point. It has started to replace jobs and will eventually eliminate many. What are those people going to do? It's not going to be a good time.

I feel we have been in WW3 since 2014 in a slow motion slow burn kind of way. It started with Ruzzia with Ukraine back then, let alone today and all the 3 year illegal war. China unleashing Covid on the planet. Israel and Iran and the rest of the Middle East has been going on for years. It finally bubbled over. We're in a lull now but it's not over...it's never over between them.

I don't see the world in a positive light now a days unfortunately. People ignore one another instead of saying hello out in public. People are just rude. It's sad. It's actually down right scary at times too with road rage, anger over parking spots...daily shootings. Violence against women or those vulnerable.

I live in a nice country too. I should be and am grateful for that. But even society here has changed and it's not the way it was when I was growing up. Immigration has imported a lot of problems with angry, poor and unproductive people who can't speak or write English.

>>33523679
because things were good in the 80s and 90s (post 11/22/63) and people had hope for the future. bad shit happened and a lot of people didn't have it good, but everyone thought the future would be good. 9/11 is the point after which no one thought the future would be better