Thread 33530659

>Turning 26
>Late bloomer in pretty much everything
>Sheltered upbrigging
>No carreer prospect
>Aimless
>Considering joining the army

Should I do it, bros? I'm hoping to reinvent myself and potentially gain new skills that could help me later in life but I feel too old and like maybe this is a bad decision.

You ever meet a vet who was happy with their decision? What percentage of people re-enlist?
Especially the older ones with the blown out knees from all the ruck marches.
Don't do it unless you like being miserable

At least go for officer. Being enlisted sucks fucking ass.

Depends on your nationality

>>33530688
I might actually be able to.
Is being Officer a better experience?

>>33530807
Canuck

You had the balls to be yourself compared to everyone else. Everyone else thought ewww I don't want to be anon, but no OP you had balls to be yourself compared to everyone else. Now make your decisions how you want them not how everyone else would.

>>33531285
hey op i might be able to help, i did the exact same shit
what trade are you planning on joining as? things may be better or worse - we just got a 13% pay bump

>>33531297
I actually don't know, I was planning infantry

>>33531288
No idea of this ia supposed to be sarcastic but if not thanks man

>>33531281
100% yes. You still have to go through the basic training bullshit but life as an officer is *so* much better.

>>33531346
unless you're a super fit dude who can deal with a lot of suck, it's going to be a really bad time for you
the infantry O pipeline is basic, then a year of gagetown assfuckery which you might break during
if i were you, i'd wait to see the 40k signing bonuses being thrown around (unless you wanna get started right now)
a technical trade/occupation will set you up for success after the CAF, because one day, either your body or your mind are going to break and you realize this ain't it anymore
good luck anon, do your research on exactly what you want otherwise you're going to get fucked

>>33531350
I mean if from my heart. No problem. Keep being you no matter what.

>>33531346
>infantry
I mean, if you hate yourself and want to live life with aches and pains 20 years ahead of your actual age, and learn no marketable life skills in the process, sure, go for it

>>33531392
Yeah thanks man now I know what I DONT want for sure

i've been in for around five years, if you got any questions i'm happy to answer about training paths and actual work - otherwise just talk to a recruiter and do your own research

>>33530659 (OP)
Yes
My
Retarded
Ass
Signed
Up
>armyfags say this frequently
>I am not fucking with you

>>33531464
How do I become a badass Special Forces Operative?

>>33531476
follow the SF Operator Pre-Selection Physical Fitness Training Program, which can be found on google
survive 2 years at your normal unit before putting in an NOI and going for selection

>>33531482
My mathematical abilities are incredibly poor. How much will that keep my from learning a useful trade?

>>33531476
Join the French legion étrangere. They are considered as the elite of the elite.

>>33531476
go to Fayetteville North Carolina and get involved in the drug trade

>>33531507
There's minimum educational requirements for some trades but as long as you got your grade 12 math, should be good; some trades have required the need for a CFAT or aptitude test
I'm not the best at math either but I managed to make it pretty far in a technical trade
question is, what do you want to do? Cook? Fight? Repair shit? Fly a plane? Be an air princess doing shit on a plane?
You do need a bachelor's degree to be an O

>>33531509
I heard they almost reject everyone nowadays

>>33531555
Good question.
One of the reasons I wanted to enlist was because my only academic stremghts are in writing and, lets be honest, not a lot of jobs in that field nowadays

>>33531593
Well most of them are from third-world countries that want the French salaries. Most of the dudes are from Eastern Europe as a consequence. Anyone bellow the Sahara, unless duly justified gets kicked out. Provided that you are from a first world country and are fit, they won't cull you in the initial screening. Though one must have a mind of steel, and a body to match it, as well.

>>33531603
funny story, I used to write too
if you have a degree in English, you could pivot into being an intelligence officer/operator if you wanna do more operational stuff
id take a scroll through the trades available and see if anything catches your eye, since they'll train you from the ground up in whatever you decide to pick
we could always use more clerks too

>>33531650
Intelligence operator? That sounds cool. Does it translate well in the Civ world?

>>33531668
your job as an int op is to select, consolidate, and investigate whatever mischief other people are up to
I've seen dudes go from int op to cops, private investigator, and general forensics; you can also parachute into CSIS, our spy agency

>>33531677
Shit now I gotta try that.
Thanks man.
I guess Int Officer is better?

>>33531722
same shit, but now you're managing dudes and doing the same stuff
the training programs differ as you're going to put to a slightly higher standard
depending on which element you pull, you'll be out into various element specific courses
I can only personally speak to the army, where we get a bunch of leadership and combat leadership training; your basic is an extra month long
I think your background in English and communication will help you with planning and reading lots of documents
I used to be a pretty shy and incel type person years ago, but I've developed a good level of confidence

>>33531729
Perfect, I was planning on going into Comms in school anyway

>>33531741
if you don't already have a bachelor's, you could also go in immediately and go through the enlisted commissioning program after a little while
keep in mind officers get paid a lot more while going through training but it really depends how you wanna walk through life
CAF isn't going anywhere
just do keep in mind if you do go NCM, keep your dick in your pants
those int girls are a little freaky

>>33530659 (OP)
Do it but I would personally be more into the Air Force or Coast Guard. You're still young enough to keep up physically with 18 year olds enlisting but don't wait any longer.

>>33530659 (OP)
>joining the army
So you're thinking of betraying your country...

>>33531281
>>33530659 (OP)
>>33531722
I am currently in as officer. It is a solid base for a career via military or if you want to just get experience and get out with some benefits n shit.

Don't go army though. That is dumb. And don't enlist. I wouldn't recommend it and many others feeel the same. Go coast guard, air force, space force, and if you can't get those then maybe navy or army.

In addition, go for something that isn't combat arms and has skills that can transfer. For example, Intelligence is peak. HR is ok. Anything tech related is really good.

>>33531677
What skills should I develop in order to compete if I chose that field?

>>33530659 (OP)
I don't think it's too late for anything and this could give you an above average career. I would probably want to be in the military except I'm a stoner.

>>33531346
I did infantry for 15 years, went to airforce to be a sartech, don’t go infantry anon. It sucks. >>33531368 it really sucks way worse than you make it out. Way way worse. I’d take 1000 Afghanistans over gagetown any day. Can’t even kill wounded prisoners without someone getting upset.

>>33530659 (OP)
you do know that your country might go to war? and you will be drafted? and could die? or get severely injured?

>>33536168
pussy

>>33530659 (OP)
>too old
26 is fine, it's pushing 30 where it's rough, though there are people who even join at 40+. I would go now though since you'll at least be around other early 20's for the most part and it won't be too much of an age gap to be unbearable. You'll likely find other newbies around your age as well given the current job and economic market.

>>33530659 (OP)
Do it, at least you will get a qualification

>>33530659 (OP)
There's lots of people talking out their ass in this thread because a lot of them didn't even join, or they chose the wrong mos and landed in the wrong unit. The army has over a million people so it's gonna be different based on where you go.

I've joined myself and it's the best choice I ever made. Sure there's the benefits but I was an absolute POS before joining. I had no prospect in life, nothing going on at all, ran out of money so barely eating anything.

Then I enlisted and got a signal MOS. The training has its good parts and it's bad parts. Same applies when you're at the unit you end up with. But the biggest thing to me was just having the structure to go by. If you have no fucking clue how to square your life away you'll learn how in the army.

I can't speak for officers but if you go nat guard you'll still go through training like normal army, you'll still get your tuition and certification assistance, you'll still get your VA home loan at the end of your 6 years.

All of that is enough to give you the opportunity to take your life back like I did. Last bit of advice, try to get an aviation unit. Life there is squishy af.

>>33530659 (OP)
How bad is the hazing in the military? I remember a co worker telling of some gay shit that happened to him and some guys he knew. I’m worried I’ll get jumped in the shower if I ever joined

>>33530688
I'm happy with my decision. Infantry grunt. Didn't re-enlist though because of a herniated disc. Guy doesn't have to be a grunt though; there's going to be plenty of technical jobs now that drones becoming such a massive part of warfare.

>>33531285
why did you not think this was important enough to put in the OP?

>>33540457
I'm ashamed :'c

>>33540098
This risk is way oversold.

>>33530659 (OP)
Ok
Good luck dying for Isreal

>>33530659 (OP)
Pursue OCS, be an officer. I've known a number of guys who served from every branch, many enjoyed it and look fondly on it, especially ones whose careers lined up with their interests and allowed them to develop new skills. You can use it to pursue you're interests, an example would be Paul Harrell (RIP) who would start every video with his marksmanship awards. Many cool jobs, if you find something you love you won't regret doing it (although I do know one marine who stated that everything he enjoyed doing outside of the marines like camping and scuba diving he hated while he was a marine). I know many that have described their time in as the best and worst time of their lives though, make sure you know what you're getting into maybe post on /meg/ on /k/. And for what its worth, Navy and Army would be my last choices based on everyone I spoke to unless you're an officer.

>>33530688
>What percentage of people re-enlist?
At least in the Army it varies wildly by MOS, probably because post-army civilian employment varies wildly.
As 11B or combat arms in general, you're unqualified to do pretty much anything as a civilian.
As a diesel engine mechanic, the employment picture is a little different.

>>33545843
>As 11B or combat arms in general, you're unqualified to do pretty much anything as a civilian.
what about working as a mercenary

>>33530659 (OP)
What country r u in? I can't speak for others but I enlisted for infantry in the adf and it was a load of shit cunts who wanted to go kill a bunch of gooks overseas for no reason and just sucking off some fuckwit corporals every day. If you're okay with being completely subservient to total fucking idiots who have no respect for you or in some cases actively hate you then give it a shot. The guns r cool at least.

>>33546184
thank for your service defending our fatherland from the emu menace

>>33530659 (OP)
>dying to advance the interests of people who hate you and wear silly hats

>>33546213
you should stop going to /pol/ it's rotted your brain

>>33546236
it's not even /pol/ it's the truth. I get that recruiting numbers are low but to be fair you should've gone with drill seargeant

Reminder that the military is the bottom of the barrel. If you go there it's because you literally had no other choices whatsoever and everyone knows it.