Thread 33556348

autistic f21. i don’t go out much except for work and occasionally university (i do 99% of my classes online).

the last guy i met who showed interest in me was in 2022 and he turned out to be a cuck. he had no opinions of his own and just parroted my interests, basically telling me what i thought i wanted to hear instead of being himself. most of our “”conversations”” were him infodumping video game or movie lore that id never played/watched. apart from that, i’ve only been hit on by homeless crackheads.

i’ve never used dating apps before and i don’t want to. i am not interested in hookups or fwb. no sex before marriage, not because i’m hyperreligious but i don’t want to have sex with someone who someone who isn’t planning on sticking around. but i acknowledge that marriage has a ton of problems and it can’t always guarantee faithfulness, cheating is inevitable. i’ve also never been kissed, held hands, dated or had a bf.

i’m trying to improve my looks by taking ozempic, eating cleaner, getting a good hair care routine, botox, lazer hair removal, and prioritising my hygiene (regular piercing cleaning, wearing nice perfume). i’m also going to get my teeth whitened after i quit smoking, a rhinoplasty, and i made a pinterest board of cute outfits i want to buy when i get the money for them.

but is this even worth it if i want to find a guy who likes me for who i am? or are all guys my age just looking to fuck? i’m genuinely thinking of going wgtow because horny men are everywhere like flies and i’m just not interested in that. i’m so disgusted by it that i don’t think i could be with a guy who has hookedup or paid for sex or porn. but i don’t want to have never had a bf because that’s embarrassing. i don’t find men that interesting or attractive, i never have, but all of my family members my age are married or have partners. i don’t want to die alone.

where do i go/what should i do to avoid spineless cucks and fuckboys? also what do? just stand there and wait to be approached?

i just want to go on a cute date with someone man.

>>33556348 (OP)
I feel the same except I'm a guy. It's so hard to meet women
>My workplace is mostly men and all the women here are married (I'm a engineer)
>Girls rarely reply to me on online dating sites
>Local gym has mostly male members and the women are mostly fat
>Tried joining meetups and most of its participants are much older than me

>>33556348 (OP)
I'm a married man who is 0% interested in cheating, but maybe we can be friends? Do you want my discord?

>>33556348 (OP)
simple.
>see man who catches your eye
>walk up to him
>say hello
you as a woman have now found a man who, statistically speaking, will now want to be a part of your life. it really is that easy if you're XX

>>33556358
by friends i assume you mean fwb? men and women can’t be friends.

>>33556360
No, I don't mean fwb. I am offering pure friendshil. Even if it were true that men and women can't be friends only IRL, which is not my experience IRL (maybe I'm just too ugly), then certainly 2 people who only know eachother online can be friends regardless of sex.

>>33556358
>0% interested in cheating
Seems legit

>>33556348 (OP)
Geez, you are not going to meet anyone if you don't step put of your comfortable zone. Men are everywhere. Try joining different groups to meet new men.

>>33556561
>Geez, you are not going to meet anyone if you don't step put of your comfortable zone
no shit, that was the whole point of this post

>>33556348 (OP)
Hmu
Discord: control_illusion_78046

>>33556595
if i wanted an online fwb i would have posted this to /soc/

>>33556608
Same

>>33556348 (OP)
>taking ozempic
Stop, it's going to destroy your bones and bone density.

>>33556348 (OP)
>how to meet men?
You clearly don't want to meet them online, so I don't think that asking 4chan is going to be a good idea, most people here are chronically online. I would suggest you to find a hobby that is done in group. A book club, a polyglot meet up, a tennis club. There's many options to choose from.

>frigid, fat, smoker
>still get at least two thirsty men wanting to connect on discord so far itt
womeme really live on ez mode

>>33556348 (OP)
you dont sound ready to meet a man, leave them alone maybe.

I'm 21m, never had gf, no kiss, really never touched a girl. I'm not really ugly but I'm avoidant person (avpd), this seems to be the case for my whole life (avoidant ppl usually don't get into relationship or get married at all). I'm religious so I can't have sex outside marriage. I don't even have close male friends anymore.

To answer your question, I think book clubs could be the place. Good luck building a family in this modern world.

>>33556348 (OP)
Im in the same situation, expect i dont go to work. Where can i meet metalhead men?

>>33556348 (OP)
>posts anime, instead of self
Uh...
>wants marriage before sex
Ok, are you a virgin?
>doesn't like bf talking about his interests
Uh...
>acknowledging marriage is fucked
Yes
>cheating is inevitable
NO
>ozempic
No
>eating cleaner
Yes
>getting a good hair care routine
Yes
>botox
NO
>lazer hair removal
ok
>prioritising my hygiene
Yes
>regular piercing cleaning
What piercings?
>wearing nice perfume
Ok
>get my teeth whitened
Meh
>after i quit smoking
NO
>a rhinoplasty
NO
>and i made a... i want to buy when i get the money
NO
>assuming bad faith and shiting on the anons in this thread reaching out
NO

You may not be bait, but you've got a long way to go and you're very hostile.

>>33556735
>thirsty
Maybe.
I think they just offered in good faith.

I think men are really the honest romantic ones, I've never even seen a woman try when there was any work on thier end.

>>33556348 (OP)
>i don’t go out much except for work and occasionally university
Don't go out. It's not for us. Go in. Creative clubs, events, discussion groups. Anything is your interest there is a group for them. Join to them, feel fun by yourself and don't want to get a guy. It will happen inevitably. Or if you find somedoby who you like just go to them and tell bluntly. Men like initiating girls and also like the sraightforward no BS talking as autistic people talk.
>i’m trying to improve my looks by taking ozempic, eating cleaner, getting a good hair care routine, botox, lazer hair removal
Ozempic is risky, botox is straight up bad. If you stop taking it will be even worse than before. And come on, you are 21 don't ruin your body for a life just to get few better years. Botox is for the 40s and bad 30s.

>>33556735
how is that my fault if men can’t control their hormones

>>33556839
What exactly do you think a relationship is?

>>33556774
>posts anime, instead of self
i think that would make this thread worse than it already is

>>33556804
>I've never even seen a woman try when there was any work on thier end.
>posted this reply ITT about a woman trying

>I think they just offered in good faith
>1. married man probably twice my age looking to cheat
>2. horny /soc/ dweller
>good faith

>>33556845
i’m talking about the tards wanting my disc ITT, not men in general

>>33556839
>fridged, fat, gets offers, and then insults them
Women are an absolute mistake.

>>33556857
The married guy put that out first, and the other guy never even mentioned /soc/, you did.

This reaction is why you're alone.

>>33556864
they were offers for exchanging nudes. if i would have given my disc, i would have been called a whore. no matter what i would have done, a man would be there to complain about it.

>>33556869
so what was the correct reaction?

>>33556871
Jesus christ the projection. Stay toxic. I'm sure it will work out.

>>33556348 (OP)
>autistic f21. i don’t go out much except for work and occasionally university
Gonna be hard times ahead, over 80% of autist females end up abused and it also means you are less likely to socialize due to preferring isolation

>He turned out to be a cuck
See you could have saw that a mile away but remember autism is the disorder that makes you blind to signals and signs

>I acknowledge that marriage has a ton of problems and it can’t always guarantee faithfulness, cheating is inevitable.
You can make it a guarantee that it won't happen by picking better candidates and having self respect and boundaries. I think that you are setting yourself up for disaster by anticipating the worst outcome because it means you will eventually normalize it and end up settling for that and you will end up cheated on eventually

>I'm trying to improve my looks
This is usually the typical route autists go down in attempts to try and fix things. They see life in face value terms so they will literally try face value solutions: their own looks

I think you should just go to some autist therapy or counselling or some module of learning your own disorder and learning how to actually manage it and stay in control of it before considering relationships if you truly want to avoid bullshit ones

>>33556882
not projection, just pattern recognition.

>>33556857
>making a thread on 4chan
>effort

>>33556871
>they were offers for exchanging nudes. if i would have given my disc
I'm not the person that is talking to you, but you really have low self esteem. I would offer my Discord but I changed my mind midway, not everyone wants to see you naked. Some people act in good faith. IF you want to meet people in real life, this is the way to go :

>>33556660
>You clearly don't want to meet them online, so I don't think that asking 4chan is going to be a good idea, most people here are chronically online. I would suggest you to find a hobby that is done in group. A book club, a polyglot meet up, a tennis club. There's many options to choose from.

>>33556891
You do realize you are hoping for a scenario that violates that pattern? How can it possibly happen if you cut off any attempt?

Do you think any guy irl doesn't have "hormones"?

>>33556897
>I would offer my Discord but I changed my mind midway
lol. lmao. of course you would have. sure.

>>33556891
>not projection, just pattern recognition.
Not the guy you're talking to, but this is the same excuse people use to judge fat people, black, Asians and other people that do not conform to the norm. Not cool at all.

>>33556903
Nta guys have hormones but they are mostly dormant until certain conditions flare them up, such as sex or pairbonding or becoming a father

>>33556904
>lol. lmao. of course you would have. sure.
I really would. I like meeting new people, but what's the point if you are judging me before we even know each other. You must have been hurt by someone, I hope you can heal.

>>33556818
>botox is straight up bad
it’s partly for aesthetic reasons but also medical. i have pretty severe TMJ and the NHS refuses to treat it, they cancelled my appointments for over a year so now i’m trying to get it fixed myself. i also have pretty bad resting bitch face and i want to prevent frown lines near my eyebrows.

>>33556907
Sure, I was just asking her in a way that highlights what she actually wants and thinks. She assumes bad faith from everyone, and used that word. I just asked in what imaginary scenario her word doesn't apply, to jumpstart some self awareness.

Everyone has hormones and emotions. She's using it colloquially and I'm just trying to get her to self reflect.

>>33556913
You have resting bitch face for a reason femautist it's because you have autism remember? Y'know the funny disorder that fries the shit out of your sensory receptors and everything bright and noisy or overwhelming makes you feel stress or anxiety? Turns out it shows up on your default resting expression, you got resting bitch face because that's exactly how you feel the face never lies. Trying to chemically or surgically alter that will never solve the root issue

>>33556354
Literally nobody cares and why nobody replied to you. All the thirsty beta males are now courting the sow who made this thread and catering to her needs and wants.

>>33556905
why is pattern recognition bad? it’s literally common sense. men are controlled by their penises so that’s how to expect them to behave. black people like to steal so i make sure to keep my belongings safe because i live in london. i treat people based on how they act.

>>33556924
autism has no cure, that is the only preventive i have to stop looking autistic to get a bf.

>>33556931
Well he likely doesn't want a bf, and we don't want to insult him, so we don't offer.
You've got no need to rub it in.

>>33556931
>All the thirsty beta males are now courting the sow who made this thread and catering to her needs and wants.
i don’t have any needs or wants from them. i never asked for their contacts but somehow it’s my fault.

>>33556919
>Jumpstart some self awareness
Admirable goal there but that's gonna be hard cuz she already said she is a femautist, she doesn't know who that self exactly is to be aware of, it's why I recommend she just go get support for her autistic issues from another professional autist who knows how to move past the issues, i.e a psychiatric specialist who specializes in autism (they often have autism themselves they just make their own disorder their special interest)

>>33556913
no idea what are these abbrevations, but I believe you that it's medical case too.
About the resting bitch face: Some men find even that attractive (like me) Don't try to be someone istead yourself because ven if your masink is perfect it causes an identity crisis, and no matter how accepted will you be you won't be happy. And that is the main goal doean't it?

>>33556932
Yes, stereotypes exist for a reason.

As I said you are hoping for a violation of that pattern, so you have to at least suspend your disbelief.

How will any guy want to interact with you after you accuse them, before they commit any "crime".

>>33556945
>i don’t have any needs or wants from them
>wants a bf

>>33556932
>men are controlled by their penises
Not true at all. I don't even watch porn or jerk off anymore for example.

>black people like to steal so i make sure to keep my belongings safe because i live in london
Sure, a lot of them do steal. But do all of them steal? No.

Well whatever, it's not like talking on 4chan will make you change your mind. You are clearly hurt by something, and are unwilling to surrender yourself, you can't expect to meet someone if you are not open for it I guess. I hope you can heal, if you do, that's the way to go I guess:

>>33556660
>I would suggest you to find a hobby that is done in group. A book club, a polyglot meet up, a tennis club. There's many options to choose from.

>>33556961
“them” = thirsty 4chan spegs.

yeah okay let me add this random guy from a 4chan thread i made and try to start an online relationship with him. definitely a good idea. he is certainly not looking for nudes and nothing else. every man on 4chan is just looking for a genuine, honest relationship.

>>33556354
this is completely different.
Girls rarely reply to anybody. You have to initiate create and entertain. That's sucks but I don't make the rules. Regular gym visiting fat girls won't be fat too long. Also, fat girls can have non fat friends. And even if they don't hav, you can practive conversation on them.

>>33556968
You think the same of men irl.
You haven't answered a single question in good faith.
You don't address the statement: "you are hoping for a violation of this pattern, you must suspend your disbelief".
You are toxic and aggressive.

It's you.

>>33556938
>autism has no cure, that is the only preventive i have to stop looking autistic to get a bf.

Femautist, sit a while and think for at least 60 seconds on what I am about to say as a non-autist: We do not recognize autists because of how they look physically, neither their body or their fashion. We can see it because of how they talk, how they react, how they behave, and how they struggle to understand social cues or social signs. It's like watching a blind person constantly walking into traffic, you tell them the social danger they are about to get into and they completely ignore all reason and walk into it anyway then act surprised that they dated someone who turned out to be a cuck/pervert/deadbeat/abuser when everyone else around them screamed to them to watch the hell out but they kept walking into bullshit.

It has nothing to do with looks, has everything to do with mindset. And you can calibrate that mindset well enough to become functional, which you should if you want to know how to date and date well. Autism is not to be taken lightly, there was a reason society used to make it illegal for people to have sex with autists up until the 1980's. It's because the autist is an extremely vulnerable and easily manipulated individual, but it turns out there are ways for autists to learn and function as well as any normie. And you can't do that if you think injecting botulin into your own face is gonna fix your life

>>33556999
>You are toxic and aggressive
first day on 4chan?

>>33557004
Not all channers are.
Her reaction was very sudden without real prompt or cause.
Again: "you are hoping for a violation of that pattern, you must suspend your disbelief"

>>33556938
As and ADHDer I autistic girls attractive as they are. In their own world, with own rules, like a new dimension wainting to be explored. And their ultrafocused sight are just something otherworldly, even if they are not listening I can see on them how deep they are thinking. And thinking is sexy.

>>33557038
>As an ADHDer
Those would be the 'homeless crack addicts' who flirted with her I bet any $$$ on it lol. Not saying all ADHDs are crack addicts but they are all addicted to something. And they also keep forgetting to change their wardrobe and outfit so to the autist they prob appear or look like homeless crack addicts.

>>33557024
>"you are hoping for a violation of that pattern, you must suspend your disbelief"
the pattern is that men are driven to talk to women to eventually get sex. that is a fact. why would i not acknowledge facts when trying to get a bf? i just pretend that all men are angels who can do no wrong and never have ulterior motives? i pretend that hormones do not exist? i pretend that men never lie or hide their true identity?

>>33557054
WTF are you even talking about bro

>>33557070
If you don't want sex, why do you want a bf?

>>33557073
cmon ADHD anon use your pattern recognition dopamine connect the dots machine you got in your head, make the connections and figure it out I know you can

>>33557084
didn’t even read my post so let me help you out
>but i don’t want to have never had a bf because that’s embarrassing. i don’t find men that interesting or attractive, i never have, but all of my family members my age are married or have partners. i don’t want to die alone.

>>33557070
>i just pretend that all men are angels who can do no wrong and never have ulterior motives? i pretend that hormones do not exist? i pretend that men never lie or hide their true identity?
All of them are valid points, but not all men the same, whatever you've read on female media. There are a lot of men who want connecton more than sex. Sure, sex is on the list because that's the ultimate connection, but not in the first few place. Also don't forget the autistic men who are completely different from the rest.
You are not the majority, as you know. Therefoe the majority of men won't fit to you. But there are exceptions, not even small number. You just have to find them. Tiresomne but worth it.

>>33557098
You want a bf to fit in?
That's not going to work

>calling someone cuck because they have manners
>implying bad conversation skills for "infodumping" when you probably contributed nothing to it and left zero hints what you want to talk about
>studies online without any social life despite being a college student
yeah, I wonder why guys just want to fuck you and don't find interesting spending time with you

>>33557112
>>33557112
>>studies online without any social life despite being a college student
it is an online-only course

>you probably contributed nothing to it and left zero hints what you want to talk about
you clearly know so much about my personal relationships, you are so smart and good at reading people (sarcasm bc you are a retard)

>>33557103
why else would i want one? men want gfs to show off to other guys and get sex so they can brag about it. to other guys.

>>33557073
>>33557087
Fine adhdbro I'll tell you the reason why I said the 'homeless crack addicts' who hit on our dear autistic OP were prob adhds, it's cuz autists only identify social shit at face value. They see 'homeless crack addict' if you just happen to be wearing a dark jacket and a beanie hat while sitting on the ground in public while smoking a cigarette. Reality is the guy prob isn't a homeless crack addict at all just a lazy dude who wanted to sit down and have a big ruminative think over a cigarette cuz the guy needs stimulation from nicotine just to self medicate his own adhd or whatever lol autists genuinely see your people as 'badguys' or 'hobos'

>>33557145
>bogged autist calling me a retard
bitch, I went on dates with girls like you. I can smell the entitlement from here. you think men owe you a good time and you don't have to contribute shit. all your "improvements" are about your looks, none of them about your character. you think simply existing is enough contributing to make a relationship let alone a conversation work.

at least you made me feel good about having been together with my wife for 10 years now, remembering women like you also exist

>>33557149
>men want gfs to show off to other guys and get sex so they can brag about it. to other guys.
As I mentioned above, not all of them. Most of my friends who has a gf I almost never see, because they are together not with the group.
It' sad that you don't imagine any kind of intimacy besides sex, but I root for you to find it. Just laying on the carpent in each others arms and talking about memories, plans, and anything personal that nobody wants to hear while the time stops to you.

troll thread. you are talking to a man

>>33557145
>bogged autist calling me a retard
bitch, I went on dates with girls like you. I can smell the entitlement from here. you think men owe you a good time and you don't have to contribute shit. all your "improvements" are about your looks, none of them about your character. you think simply existing is enough contribution to make a conversation let alone a relationship work.

>>33557187
>you think men owe you a good time and you don't have to contribute shit
it’s the opposite actually. women are supposed to look hot to make men look good to other men. they’re also expected to dress well 24/7, do all cooking and cleaning, birth children and do all of the raising, give up sex whenever the man wants it, be in shape for their entire lives, prevent aging to stop men from cheating, be supportive and accepting when men cheat, be quiet, only speak when spoken to, not have any mental issues or autism, fix any physical ugliness with surgery, never accuse them of cheating, have no hobbies or interests to make the man feel like she’s their entire world so they don’t think she’s cheating, never have any complaints about the relationship, have no friends, never go out anywhere ESPECIALLY without the man’s permission, have money the man can borrow, have a full time job, no health issues, always be agreeable, always show interest in his interests even if she doesn’t care, etc.

>>33557225
men don’t care about personalities if the woman is hot. that’s why so many of them are into pua shit, because as long as she gives them sex and has a bland personality, men can project their feelings onto that and have an idealistic, perfect vision of their gf. men don’t like talking or having genuine conversations with women, it bores them.

>>33557187
Not OP but both of you should relax and chill out lol I'm pretty certain OP didn't start off intending bad shit, just miscommunication after miscommunication from both sides. autists are blunt in their speech or text and it reads as mean or bitchy but it really ain't.
>>33556348 (OP)
OP remember that non-autists don't focus on what you say directly they focus on how it's said or written in a sort of 'big picture' perspective. You wrote down your experiences without judgement or bad feelings in yourself as you wrote them in the OP but everyone sees and presumes you are someone who blames everything on other things. And then they will get the wrong impression and mistakenly think you do that because you can't blame yourself or are unable to admit faults or that you might be narcissistic or whatever. It's a common social oopsie woopsie lol

>>33557099
>sex is on the list because that's the ultimate connection
>men are controlled by their penises
>Not true at all
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>33557149
You are probably ugly or mid and nobody wants to breed you otherwise guys would be lining up for you since middle school. Men are checkout of society at an alarming rate and it's the reason you are still single woman. The good news is this phenomena will only increase in the coming years, while the bad news is you will rapidly lose your youth and become even more ugly and irrelevant than you already are.

Have a nice day.

>>33557266
>nobody wants to breed you
thank god

>>33557172
Lol have you ever met high functioning femautist? They don’t like crack addict looking guys, they like when their guy takes care of himself and looks decent

>>33557236
yeah, with that toxic attitude you are def not ready for a bf. so I don't understand why you make this thread about "how to meet men" - when you clearly loathe men. are you expecting simps on 4chan to come out and say "yeah most guys are like this but not me, go out with me m'lady"? what do you think is gonna happen? do you think the nice guy simp will like you for who you are? currently your whole character is nothing but toxic so any affection towards you will clearly be for show.

go change your character then come back to ask for advice

>>33557247
>men don’t care about personalities if the woman is hot
Not all men, but you are right, a lot of men are like that and then they pay for that mistake later. I dated a woman who was a super-model once and she had such a repugnantly ugly personality that no amount of good looks could save her so I dumped her. The only men who willingly let themselves go through absolute bullshit with toxic women just for a crumb of pussy are typically bitch-made men who don't know how to stop being afraid of females.

>>33557283
>>33557247

>>33557274
Autistic women shouldn’t breed as they are always ending as terrible mothers

>>33557283
>your whole character is nothing but toxic
this is 4chan, if you don’t like the truth and hurty words, maybe don’t came back.

how am i supposed to respond to people calling me names and judging me? just lay down and take it like a cuck? i am simply mirroring their energy.

>>33557282
>They don’t like crack addict looking guys
True and that's why they end up gravitating towards them anyway. Autists are eternal pessimists and always feel negative feelings so they always attract/are attracted to shit they find to be contemptible. (Think of any autistic male who whines about how evil whores are while posting a picture of a whore they fap to in the exact same post). And the autist female will seek 'bad guys' out because she really wants to fix them. Cuz that's the autist's addiction in a nutshell, making order out of chaos. Taking something broken or messy and tidying it up. Arranging a cluttered bookshelf by size, color and alphabet. Taking a unkempt and disorganized and substance addicted adhd and fixing their whole life for them. Shit is like heroin for an autist

>>33557297
true. same goes for autistic me. i hate children. if i had kids i would probably abuse them desu, i have no patience for that bullshit.

>>33557310
men*

>>33557310
>if i had kids i would probably abuse them
Quickly, autist, elaborate on this before the non-autists brand you as evil, hurry! Specify that you don't actually *want* to abuse kids you just worry you may do that out of being overwhelmed mentally.

>>33557318
no

>>33557324
Do it now, cast it into the fire! ISILDUURRR

>>33557318
Do you think it’s the other way around? How come? All I know about them is their uncontrollable rage or meltdown when they are overwhelmed. They are absolutely capable of being awful mothers. If you fuck femautist and she tells you something like that, you better make sure your contraception is immaculate.

>>33557293
>>33557305
you are asking for PERSONAL advice. expect some responses regarding your PERSONALITY. Do you go to a psychologist and insult them too for pointing out flaws in your personality? better than being a cuck, heh?

and no, looks are not all that matters, not in the long term. even if partners have completely different hobbies like me and my wife, there is nothing better than making each other laugh or smile or support when times are rough, even with as little as a hug. if the other person is a literal scheming sociopath with 0 real emotions I don't see how any of that could work. I would trust a sex doll more than you.

>>33557332
autists are socially crippled my nigga, they say words without actually knowing the double meaning or colloquial significance of those words they only speak and think like a living dictionary. So when autist says "I hate kids, I'd probably abuse them if I had any" it means "Kids are noisy and chaotic that hurts my brain, I'd probably end up yelling at them to be quiet too much if I had some."

But to non-autists it reads as:
"I fucking hate children. I hate them so much that I would gladly break their fingers and smash their ribcages in to watch them bleed and cry just for pleasure."

>>33557341
Do you honestly think that femautists can be good mothers? Give me an example.

>>33557336
>if the other person is a literal scheming sociopath with 0 real emotions I don't see how any of that could work.
men enjoy that if the woman is hot. a woman could be a deaf and mute child molester but if she’s a 10/10 model, men do not care.

>>33557350
>men enjoy that if the woman is hot. a woman could be a deaf and mute child molester but if she’s a 10/10 model, men do not care.
Your exagerrations are ridiculous. Please touch grass. And learn about cognitivce biases like survivorship bias and confirmational bias. For the last time: there is no "men" as there is no "women". There are individuals with traits and probabilities. Nothing is 100%.

>>33557255
>they focus on how it's said or written in a sort of 'big picture' perspective
so how am i supposed to navigate around this when i’m an autist? i often say what i mean and how im feeling to my coworkers but they never believe me.

>”how do you feel about your job here?”
>i like it, i would not leave.
>”hm. i don’t believe you.”

>”why are you taking so many days off? are you sick? do you want to leave?”
>im busy with uni exams fuck off.
>”no i don’t believe you. you have some ulterior motive.”

i fucking hate humans.

>>33557358
if a woman is improving the man’s social status, her personality does not matter. that is a fact that men struggle to comprehend for some reason.

>>33557364
>>”hm. i don’t believe you.”
"that's not my problem. I am responsible what I say, not how you interpret that"

>>33557348
>Do you honestly think that femautists can be good mothers? Give me an example.
They can, I got no examples tho cuz the only people who know that are kids with autist mothers. What we do know is autists hate pregnancy hate childbirth and hate loud noisy smelly babies but they also love cute shit to the point it makes them cry and they love decorating and color coordinating and they really enjoy packing lunchboxes like it's fuckin Tetris to make it neat as possible and they also typically love the shit out of Christmas time and enjoy all of the festivities and the planning and organizing that involves making sure kids are happy on Christmas day. Autist mothers probably have okay relationships to their sons more than their own daughters, since their daughters will want verbal guidance from Mom on how to socialize as a woman and autist mom ain't gonna know what to say.

>>33557380
Is that why all femautists are single mothers?

>>33557380
Those are not the indicators of being a good mothers. Dude, they don’t have a proper maternal instincts, they think it’s like The Sims, so they organise, nest and shit, bur when the reality hits and they realise they can’t save the game and go back to their normal lives, it’s done.

>>33557370
>if a woman is improving the man’s social status, her personality does not matter. that is a fact that men struggle to comprehend for some reason.
Until he get hurt really bad. So most of the men learn this lession in their early 20s. The rest remain as boys.

>>33557441
>Until he get hurt really bad
men should stop being so emotional over relationships and allowing themselves to feel hurt over dumb bullshit. they need to grow up. it’s really pathetic honestly.

>>33557421
>Is that why all femautists are single mothers?
Nah not all of em, not sure if there's data to even show what they have in marriage tho if we go by the data that we do know that autists are 80% likely to be abused in relationships (this is for both male and female) then yeah I guess we could say chances of a femautist being a single mother from picking the wrong guy due to social obliviousness would be a higher chance but whether that's gonna be a huge number or not I got no clue

>>33557433
>so they organise, nest and shit,
That's exactly what motherhood is all about. Look anywhere in the animal kingdom that's exactly what mother instincts are lol, organizing ways to feed young birds/mammals, henpecking the mate (the male) to go and bring home the branches and sticks for the nest or the meat from a kill (or in humanity's case: money) so that she can then 'nest' aka decorate and structure the entire home so that it looks like a home, feels like one and has all the amenities to accommodate a baby safely. Humans are no exception we even have a name for when women begin to crave to perform this during the living-together stage/marriage stage with a man, it's called 'nesting mode'. And autists are already excellent at organizing and structuring and timing and scheduling so to no one's surprise they end up not just building a good nest for kids but an entire fuckin twig fortress for them

>>33557443
and this is why they just want to fuck. Because that mentality not allows them to any other things beside providing.

>>33557451
Dude, besting is just a preparation for the baby and the least stressful part of parenthood. Your posts only shows that you are not a father yourself and you don’t have actual knowledge about femautists and their struggles with being a parent.

>>33557469
there is nothing else they could want

>>33557469
Nta but if men want to fucky fucky he needs to provide-y provide-y God that was a shit sentence from me. But it's true no matter which woman you date she always wants security and women define security as feeling provided for and if she doesn't feel provided for she feels insecure and when she feels insecure she will feel self-conscious, anxious, irritable and when they feel self-conscious, anxious, irritable it means her pussy goes drier than a nappy-headed Nigerian child's forehead in Africa.

Many men will complain and groan that they have to do things to get da pu§§y but they fail to see the advantage of this set-up, it means they actually have the entire remote control over their woman's sex drive, it means whenever they want sex they just need to do certain things to switch that shit in for her and then he is swimming in vagina. The men who don't realize this are the ones who expect the pussy just for existing and want it given to them just to feel special and loved and coddled. That comes from wanting the woman to basically love him like a mommy and it's never gonna work cuz the woman ain't his mother

>>33557500
>Dude, besting is just a preparation for the baby and the least stressful part of parenthood. Your posts only shows that you are not a father
You male or female? Cuz the nesting stage was not stressful at all for my woman but it was hell for me because it was me who had to drown in all the cardboard boxes from all the shit she ordered from her online thrifting lmao I had to unpack all of them, lift all of them, lug them around, build all of the furniture, do all the heavy lifting, then cut all the boxes, garbage them, then repeat the process over and over while she kept ordering and ordering. I also had to do all the painting and DIY lol.

>>33557536
you wanted your girl to lift heavy boxes around and do DIY like a man? are you gay? your job as a man is to do the more physically demanding and difficult jobs because women are physically weaker. you sound like a beta loser.

>>33557567
Yes I wanted her to do all of the heavy lifting and do all of the manly tasks while I lay on my ass doing nothing but playing videogames and watching hentai. No of course not I wanted her to do any of that nigga, I was the one who told her that I am doing all of them and not her but it doesn't mean it was enjoyable cuz it's hard ass work at best, tedious and repetitive and worse. I didn't enjoy the process of it but I enjoyed the completion of it cuz that's what masculinity is all about, doing hard shit even tho it feels hard but doing it anyway cuz if a greater good or long term goal that pays off at the end

Fuck god god is a cocksucking piece of shit fuck god fuck god fuck god fuck god fuck god fuck god fuck god fuck god fuck god fuck god fuck god fuck god fuck god

>>33557508
The fuck are you talking about? Remote control for your woman’s sex drive? Do you have one? How does it look like? Truth is that women treat their pussies like it’s a trophy a man can win only if he behaves like they want. Meaning they won’t let you fuck them if you don’t dance like they want.

shit bait thread by another incel loser

>>33557586
no shit, that’s how relationships should be. if you’re acting abusive or narcissistic or like a lazy, entitled piece of shit then women won’t and shouldn’t reproduce with you. because then it creates more awful humans that the world is overflowing with. and when women do sleep with those kinds of men, they’re called whores and told they should have picked better. what’s the alternative?

>>33557536
You poor, naive and oblivious bastard. Clearly the kid is not out yet if you claim that nesting was stressful. Also you’re in autistic thread. Please don’t tell me you impregnated a femautist.

>>33557581
so what’s there even to cry about? moving furniture and painting is hard? okay??

>>33557586
>The fuck are you talking about? Remote control for your woman’s sex drive? Do you have one?
Yeah I ordered it from Amazon for $69.00
Kidding lol nah but every man has that remote control (this is a figure of speech) for the women they date. It's a very simple remote control, and it works similar to the one women have to control their men's sex drive. Y'know how a woman just needs to wear a revealing outfit or a thong or sexy lingerie to get her man to mount her? Well all a man has to do is just do shit around the house or provide physical security, that's all. That's the man's version of sexy lingerie basically, being a capable guy who can get stuff done and solve problems especially problems the women points out which inexperienced men call 'nagging'. If the man just goes and solves the problems then she gets all turned on and the vagina is back on the menu

>>33557614

>Well all a man has to do is just do shit around the house or provide physical security, that's all.
>>33557536
and even that is too much work for them. their literal sole purpose and they whine and whinge about it constantly.

>>33557602
You telling me you enjoy moving giant ass bookcases and beds and TV's and sofas around all day? You have a big cheesy grin on your face while feeling calm as an Indian cow while working up a sweat? You can be honest man just admit it's a pain in the ass to do. If man roles were easy and peaceful then the man would turn into a giant pussy because men are supposed to deliberately do shit that's hard and challenging or laborious and break a few sweats while he breaks a few dollars that's what give masculinity that strength
>>33557609
Who said I'm crying about it I deliberately did it cuz I wanted to and enjoyed when I completed the tasks but it don't mean it's a nature trail pleasure walk in the park during the middle of doing it. Doesn't mean I regret it or resent the woman or some shit I'm not an incel or whatever

>>33557643
I’m not saying it’s enjoyable or desirable thing to do, all I’m saying is that you know shit about being a father yet if you think nesting was stressful. It’s nothing comparing to the moment when the kid is out. And yours isn’t, am I right?

>>33557621
>and even that is too much work for them. their literal sole purpose and they whine and whinge about it constantly.

Woman, I'm not whining about it just saying it like it is, none of the shit you expect men to do for you is easy, and you know its not easy because that's why you expect men to do that for you. And men don't think it's easy either but they have the body and mental fortitude to push through it and finish what women can't. And good men do this even though it strains his body or mind because he cares for his woman.

If you tell a man he is a whiner or whatever just because he tells you he is a human and also gets tired or fatigued, then all you are telling him is "I don't care about what you sacrifice for me. I am taking all your efforts for granted."

And if you continue with that mindset, every single man from east to west will share the same thoughts: "Maybe I shouldn't buy her that diamond ring after all."

>>33557674
Well at least you don’t regret your relationship

>>33557674
you have one job and you can’t even do that without writing essays to strangers on the internet about how hard and stressful it is. lol.

>>33557693
Oh no how dare I admit to feeling a negative feeling one time, anyway point wasn't to talk about doing hard shit point was to just put it out there that if guys want their girls to remain horny for them then the answer is to just do man shit around the house

>>33557305
>I am not a cuck
>injecting herself with botox (a literal neurotoxin, same as produced by botulism) and creating social media profiles just to get male attraction
troll or retard

>>33557912
please tell me what social media profiles i have

>>33556348 (OP)
If i'm being honest, unless you know some place irl via people you know, you just don't. Most of the people i know and me don't go anywhere irl specifically just to hang out. (M21)

>>33556348 (OP)
>smoker
you keep getting hit on by bums because that’s all you deserve

>>33558613
*blows weed smoke in your face*

>>33556348 (OP)
Cats. Lots and lots of cute little fur babies.

>>33558760
i hope so

>>33558765
No sexo with them though. Don’t be one of them weird autismo femcels who put peanut butter up their who ha

>>33558901
too late

>>33556348 (OP)
>I am preparing to get "dated" and dumped by superior Chads (not cuckold gamers) and this is very important to me so I will make sure to bimbofy myself in the process
Trash, take yourself out at the earliest convenience.

>>33556348 (OP)
>post picture of anime girl
>claim to be girl
OP here, you guys are easy as fuck

>>33556348 (OP)
>looks by taking ozempic
I SHIGGY DIGGY

>>33559067
what is the alternative oh wise one. men are visual-focused so they don’t care about personality.

same here, but the prettiest girls i meet, that show intrest talking to me, they always tend to be either engaged or married, which i hate. never met a good single woman who can be in a healthy relationship. but yeah I'd say same as you here m22

>>33559110
>fuck u bitch u are using an anime picture on an anime website

>>33556348 (OP)
>f21
stopped reading, you have no idea how good you have it

>>33556348 (OP)
This is so stupid. Our generation won't breed, won't marry. Nothing like that will happen.

>>33559177
>only get approached by fuckboys, crackheads and horny old married perverts.
you’re right, it’s amazing out here.

>>33559187
nigger

>>33559199
i love being right about everything. it makes men so upset.

>>33559203
If you were right, why would you be here?

>>33559232
trying to find advice duh but this thread has derailed into 99% of men attacking me and calling me names for no reason.

>>33559168
And you are Chad-focused and no amount of advice is going to make you actually approach a normal guy or fix your fucked up standards/mindset.

>>33559243
my cock is throbbing for you. i want to fill your womb with my seed

>>33559296
>And you are Chad-focused
>”where do i go/what should i do to avoid spineless cucks and fuckboys?”
>fuckboys
gotta love chad amirite

>>33559203
>it makes men so upset.
I bet this sort of shit comes up whenever you interact with guys for a slightly longer period of time, making them realize that you're just another feminist and misandrist drone at heart

>>33559308
Associating Chads with fuckboys is something you yourself have done. They're pump and dump you because they're at women's level in terms of partner churn, not because they're more promiscuous.

>>33559311
yep

you're a virgin with the mind of a whore.

>>33559518
holy retard men actually cannot read
>no sex before marriage

>cuck
>retard
first time I hear a "woman" use those words. you are a MAGA right? Fit just right in with the crowd, blaming all your shortcomings on someone else.

>>33559720
>first time I hear a "woman" use those words
probably because you’re a tourist. i’m not even american.

>>33559735
I've been on 4chan when you were in kindergarten lol. I think you took the wrong turn around /r/twoxchromosomes or something

>>33559765
>I've been on 4chan when you were in kindergarten lol
and you’re still here. that’s sad.

>>33556348 (OP)
My LARP detectors are going off
>he turned out to be a cuck.
Not how women talk, and not even how men on here talk in the context you gave

>no sex before marriage
>botox, lazer hair removal, rhinoplasty
Not things that you see together outside of larpers

>>33559941
>woman posts a thread
>”WHATTT?! WOMEN DONT USE 4CHAN!!! NO WOMAN HAS EVER USED 4CHAN!!! THIS IS A LARP!!!! LAAAARRPPPP!!!! I AM THE LARP POLICE!!!!”

>>33556348 (OP)
lmao youre cooked op
>smokes
>is fat
>autistic
and look at all the guys here wanting to hit you up and you refusing them. youre not worth shit OP. Good fucking luck

>>33560058
>and look at all the guys here wanting to hit you up
a horny “hmu” fuckboy and a married old man. what great choices.

>>33560109
>>33560058
woah, slow down, who said anything about "hitting her up"? If I wanted to ruin my marriage I have better options than this, lol. If she wants a dick she can get one within minutes, be it through Tinder, /soc/, some subreddit or whatever. The whole thread was about the fact she should not expect more than that (a dicking) because she is not a likeable person and needs to pull a 180 on her character. In that regard she is right to refuse guys indeed, because any romantic advances are just show. the kind of toxic people some boys like are BPD women. they both love and hate intensively. she is just hating nonstop - on strangers giving her advice even.

>>33556348 (OP)
Genuine question. Where do women like that hang out irl? Stacies i pull on dating apps and in pubs are boring af.

>>33556348 (OP)
F21 here as well. Literally the same as me. I was great friends with one guy in my life, I'd listen to his interests all day as he will with me. Men will be attracted to you based on the vibe you give off desu, whether you're kind, calm, cheerful, loveable, generous....all sorts of men will just come talk to you. Happens to me, but none of them are the purposeful ones....they all have the cringe instagram highlights of thirst traps.

>>33562364
there has been hardly any genuine advice in this thread, just people calling me names for no reason. there is nothing wrong with my character, i am simply responding to the hate i’m getting.

>>33562446
>there is nothing wrong with my character
umm, sweaty...
>men like women only for their looks. after getting my face done, it is up to the man to entertain me
>you're a cuck if you X (X being some cliche from internet manosphere grifters)
I mean you self diagnosed as autistic, so one could say it is just you being retarded. but I have an autistic female friend too that I meet every year and she is not like you at all. so perhaps there is hope

>>33562473
there is nothing incorrect about what i said. and i didn’t mention anything about wanting a man to “entertain” me.

>>33562483
as the other anon said, your main problem is the autistic all-or-nothing thinking. you focus so much on one aspect that you think it dominates everything, overlooking others. go read up on biases as he suggested. a scientific explanation is probably better for an autist than real life examples, which you dismissed many times already

>>33562523
>you focus so much on one aspect
there are no other aspects to focus on. sex and looks is all that matters.

>>33562527
oh, please sex gets so boring after 7+ years with the same person, everyone just stays together for the convenience, kids, emotional support (or call it love if you will). the ones who don't stay together are the ones who don't respect and trust each other and seeing how you despise all men you would fit right in there.

>>33562538
>oh, please sex gets so boring after 7+ years with the same person
this is why i am okay with my bf cheating as long as he stays with me and provides. cheating is inevitable.

>>33562544
>this is why i am okay with my bf cheating as long as he stays with me and provides. cheating is inevitable.
And this is why you shouldn't date right now, not until you've gotten past your defeatist mindset femautist. Because if you allow adultery to rampantly take place in your relationship or marriage you will fuck yourself mentally and also your health because the guy will have a higher chance of bringing back diseases. And if you make the choice of having kids, the kids will become mentally fucked from the eventual consequences of having a cheating father.

>>33562649
literally every man cheats at some point retard. women need to learn to accept that but they can’t because they have hope of meeting a good, genuine man. this is how they end up with 100+ bodies and ex’s because they cannot accept reality.

>>33562654
>autist
>virgin
>telling women what they need to do
how about you get some life experience first before lecturing others? what do you think why people cheat? for most it is the first step in switching to a more exciting partner, starting a new family when the old one is at its limits, the thrill of doing something forbidden (which its not when you have some swinger bullshit) and simply getting away from a nagging wife at home. sex itself is such a small part of it

>>33562721
i don’t need life experience to know that men cannot control their pps. you didn’t need to explain that to me retard, it’s common sense.

>>33562732
have you considered wasting years of your life with someone you hate is worse than cheating? I know, autism, but at least try to learn to think outside the box.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqbewBDft8Q

>>33562781
>wasting years of your life with someone you hate is worse than cheating
it isn’t if you can ignore and avoid them. women either provide sex or stfu and take care of the kids and the house while being ignored by the husband. this also means it’s okay for her to cheat.

>>33562792
ah, so you are going for one of those polyamorous reddit relationships which ends in one of the mystery babies being killed by one of the step-fathers? yeah, I figured this is where female autism leads to.

I just hope whatever the fuck you do, you do not reproduce. one thing is having a cuck for a husband, another raising psychopaths. your kids will likely already have a hard life even in a traditional relationship because autism genes are dominant. but in that freakshow, wew

>>33562862
there is no other alternative that works. you never have to meet the person your gf/bf/wife/husband is fucking so it’s not poly.

im autistic f22 but considered attractive by most people and I have the exact same problems, its because you're autistic not because you're ugly. I wouldn't waste money on surgeries/ botox most people look better without it anyways and desu in most relationships I autistically observe from the outside the women are miserable. seems like having an annoying pet monkey

>>33562893
>I wouldn't waste money on surgeries/ botox
men don’t approach if you’re not attractive

>>33562868
>there is no other alternative that works.
staying single and having hookups without any stupid rules and scraping the idea of raising kids since one is not qualified to do it properly.

>>33556348 (OP)
Literally just don't be fat. It's that easy.

I genuinely hate how easy women have it and how you still fuck it up. If I had a vagina I would be the richest fucking person who ever lived.

>>33562926
marriage is necessary

>>33562930
so every man in the world approaches every non-fat woman they see

>>33562939
yeah, for a tax cut. which should be the least of your problems

>>33562916
botox migrates after a few years and looks bad irl 90% of the time though so if you're a regular human that doesn't have money and time to get it touched up constantly id really not do it, same for lip filler

>>33562940
You have never used a dating app? That's all it is. Guys swiping on 100s of women a day and getting between 0 and 1 responses every year.
Have you ever watched one of those "walking down the street in NYC as a woman" videos in which a completely boring woman walks down the street and she get hundreds of men catcalling her? Yeah, the secret is she isn't an elderly woman or a fat slob. She is a fit girl of breeding age. That's the entire magic potion. The problem is all the men catcalling her are financially destitute African Americans and she obviously thinks she is a high value female and they aren't worthy of her attention. But if she wanted a boyfriend then there's literally millions of guys she could choose from.

>>33562947
how am i supposed to compete with pornstars and models when i’m mid, men will never approach me.

>>33562956
>"walking down the street in NYC as a woman"
they are fake retard

>>33556348 (OP)
Uni filters for low-tier men now, which is why men are avoiding uni and you should avoid uni men. Forget about meeting men on campus try non-credit classes or coed sports or church or meet trades guys (who are usually pretty wealthy compared to uni guys) etc.
If your culture failed you, you owe it nothing, go find one where you'll be happy and successful. If dating non-masculine leftists at uni didn't meet your needs, complaining online isn't going to help, go find real men somewhere else.

>>33562973
real men seem to like other men though

>>33562970
its insane that women got brainwashed into thinking they are the ones that have to compete with each other. maybe if you're more attractive you have more options but you're always the part that chooses in the end. its true that if you're an attractive autistic woman more of your behavior will be excused or labelled "manic pixie dreamgirl" doesn't help with the isolation though, probably makes it worse actually

>>33556348 (OP)
Men are retreating from relationships, from institutional demands, from collective obligation. Not by cowardice, nor nihilism, nor weakness but by sacred refusal to collude with a world that has hollowed out the feminine into parody and severed eros from its mythic root.
This retreat is not a conscious movement toward soul, for most men have not heard of soul. It is not a deliberate descent into myth, for most don't remember the myths. And yet it happens, everywhere.
Men retreat not in search of the feminine within but in search of refuge. They turn away from real relationships, work, education, not because they hate women, but because the outer feminine devoid of beauty, of function, of soul has become unrecognizable and if given a choice between emptiness and the parody, they choose emptiness. They choose nothing rather than violate what remains of their inner integrity.
But it is there in the void that the great possibility stirs.
Even if they do not name her, do not know her, have never met her, still within that emptiness the anima awaits.
She does not need to be reimagined, reengineered, or "updated". She does not ask to be made familiar to the modern psyche. She need only be seen, once. As she is in the dark, without distortion, without irony, without demand.

This act of remembering is enough.

Because where culture collapses, myth re-emerges and where men descend into the silence beneath language, soul prepares its next eruption. The anima was never meant to be found in daylight; she is born in shadow, dwells in dream and speaks first through absence.
So let it be said: true virtue is born in darkness.
And when men meet her there not as escape, not as fantasy, but as a reawakening they will return. Not as obedient citizens of a broken world, but as bearers of the fire, as visionaries, warriors, poets, and builders, not of new systems but of meaningful life.

This is not disappearance, it's gestation.

>>33563009
>got brainwashed into thinking they are the ones that have to compete with each other
who else are we competing with then? a woman’s life is to compete with other women, real or fictional, to be provided for. now in 2025, we are also competing with pornstars, models and underage girls on tiktok. it’s literally over if you’re not 10/10.

>>33556348 (OP)
Seeing how you're planning to "improve" yourself and your marriage first mentality I can see how you're not getting success.
Most men that want marriage first are looking for a trad wife, which means no surgery, no smoking and no ozempic. Also, brain empty.
There are almost no men waiting for marriage, if you remove religious motives, even less. You're asking for a lot while you don't have much to offer naturally.
If you're really autistic it will be hard but you must change your mentality about life or you won't have any success, it's not the dress, it's the monkey.

>>33556348 (OP)
> the last guy i met who showed interest in me was in 2022 and he turned out to be a cuck. he had no opinions of his own and just parroted my interests, basically telling me what i thought i wanted to hear instead of being himself. most of our “”conversations”” were him infodumping video game or movie lore that id never played/watched
Men bond over common interests. If he shared what made him happy and that’s what you thought of the sign he liked you for more than your looks then YOU are the problem and need to do some growing up. Men aren’t dogs to be taught tricks then caged and muzzled when unwanted. They’re people too. Grow up and learn to be nice to guys and you’ll get a bf

>>33556972
Most fat gym goers keep being fat because they don't work hard, still eat shit and don't last long. Nonetheless you're right, it's still worth to chat them up as it can open up to meeting their friends who are not obese

>>33563020
no one, men cant get these 10/10 women. they have to compete for finding anyone, you can theoretically always find some guy. women are the ones who choose. also, you dont need to be provided for you can just get a job, unless you live in Afghanistan maybe. the challenge is finding a man who understands you and isn't super annoying or gross. being autistic is what makes that hard, not being unattractive. at least if you're not completely repulsive but women rarely are

>>33563066
>Most men that want marriage first are looking for a trad wife, which means no surgery, no smoking and no ozempic
they don’t care about that as long as the woman is hot.

there is nothing wrong with my mentality, i have only shared the truth.

>>33563074
>Men aren’t dogs to be taught tricks then caged and muzzled when unwanted
they provide, take sex from women and then leave to cheat or do other shit. there’s nothing else they want to fo.

>>33563108
>a man who understands you and isn't super annoying or gross
impossible

>>33563074
so just be hot and pretend to give a shit about their interests? they will get bored.

>>33563119
If they don't care about it if the woman is hot they're driven by their instincts/lust and not by their principles. Not a very good sign.

>>33563220
they are all controlled by their lust though.

>>33563127
>>33563140
If you can’t reconcile the fact that men can have hobbies pastimes then don’t date? Trust me, the dating pool isn’t losing much by taking yourselves out of it.

>>33556348 (OP)
>how to meet men?
Even this thread is not a bad indicator that a willing woman has no issue getting some male attention just on grounds of being available.
Make yourself available, socialize, engage people. Many men have the same issue and far lower chances of success.

>>33556348 (OP)
Date older men in their 30s

>>33556738
no one cares weirdo you're a man lol

>>33556348 (OP)
34M who turned from a 4chan loser into a colossal normie (but still peek in here once every few months for entertainment), here's my thoughts on this:
>most women who pressure long term do very little to be a long term partner
>most women get their intel on what men want/find attractive/makes them stay from Instagram/glossy magazines/other women, not from men
>most women continue the above even deep in a relationship and when they already know Instagram is meth for women, they won't listen to what their men actually say what they want
>looks are 1/2 less important to men than women think and the range of "yeah she's beautiful" is much wider for men than when women judge self and each other
>men really are into hobbies, and you should get one too, you'll be respected
>most healthy men will show interest in sex, but that doesn't make them sex obsessed, if they respect the 'no', steer their energy, you're supposed to do that
>most men that behave a little like losers can be hammered into responsible people, but don't date the bad boys
>quitting smoking was very smart, congratulations and respect, it isn't easy usually
>80% of men who divorce or abandon efforts in a relationship is not because the woman cheats, it's because she whines, constantly, moans and bitches about things, many of them are objectively insignificant, but they assign wrong levels of relevance
>not every man cheats, but the easiest way to induce him to do so is to whine, especially about him

You wanna long term, keep your standards about men, but you gotta work really hard on yourself, and I'm not talking about looks at all

Have your own interests, smile more, express your true thoughts (complaints and requests), but be diplomatic and reasonable. And require the same from a guy. All will be well.

>>33567285
>80% of men who divorce or abandon efforts in a relationship is not because the woman cheats, it's because she whines, constantly, moans and bitches about things, many of them are objectively insignificant, but they assign wrong levels of relevance
>not every man cheats, but the easiest way to induce him to do so is to whine, especially about him
>”express your true thoughts (complaints and requests)”
what

>>33556348 (OP)
idk im over 30 and the last woman i looked at at the cafe ran out of the cafe and up stairs across the walkway. She didnt even collect her order.
work colleagues try to hook me up with women they know but im too autistic and defeated to try, and they dont seem to realise i want a white wife not a hookup or to provide a passport.
try finding things to do outside and try to strike up conversation with guys, they are too afraid you will cry assault if they initiate.

>>33567285
This
>>33567363
Yes, growing up into a reasonable person (even figuring out how to get help during mood swings) is a big part of becoming good long term material. Same goes for men, alongside other things they would be well advised to work on.