Thread 33562627

But I need help choosing which one.

The two options I have narrowed down are:
Option A:
>MILF type ~40 years old
>Well reviewed, definitely not going to scam me
>Seems to have been in the game a while .i.e. experienced
>Relatively affordable (10% of paycheck for 2 hours)
>5-6/10 attractiveness from pics - lost points due to age
>Works from a town very close to me

Option B:
>Young high-class escort type
>Mid 20s
>Looks kind of like picrel but with better body
>More expensive (17% of paycheck for 2 hours)
>Fewer reviews but that's probably because less people can afford to see her
>7-8/10 attractiveness
>I would have to travel further away to a city to meet her

Also to note... prostitution is completely legal where I live and both these girls are independents and native to my country, so definitely haven't been trafficked. I don't want a moral debate ITT please.

>>33562627 (OP)
You've been defeated anon...

>>33562627 (OP)
Um... how would we know which of two women you would enjoy having sex with more? Which do you find more attractive?

>>33562627 (OP)
Option B obviously

>>33562641
I find option B more attractive from the pics they have on their page.
My dilemma really could be summarised as: it it worth the extra money to see a girl I'm more attracted to when it's just paid sex and the end result will be the same?

It's also possible I could enjoy having actual sex more with option A if she's more experienced and shit.

>>33562664
A few things;
- The person in the pics is not likely to be the person you fick
- you don't need 2 hours, 1 is plenty
- get the younger one

>>33562683
>The person in the pics is not likely to be the person you fick
There are separate review sites/forums which both have been rated on so I know for a fact the pics are of them - if not a few years out of date.
>you don't need 2 hours, 1 is plenty
Ordinarily I would agree but for a first time I want two hours just so it doesn't feel rushed.
>get the younger one
That's what I'm leaning towards right now.

>>33562627 (OP)
Are you gross looking or something? I guess I don't understand why you would choose this instead of just finding your local town cougar and get it done for free.

>>33562982
I'm average looking but an incel unfortunately.

>>33562627 (OP)
Go for B.

Will ask this it's on topic of thread, has anyone ever hired an escort and not had sex, but just done massage/cuddling/GFE? I'm considering doing this soon.

>>33563123
>has anyone ever hired an escort and not had sex, but just done massage/cuddling/GFE?
In some European countries there are these "massage parlours" where you can basically do everything with the girl but sex and blowjobs. It's laughably cheap and definitely worth it if you just want to roll around naked on a big ass mattress for 1-2 hours with a gorgeous 20 year old slavic girl. You have to pay extra for french kissing and to eat them out, but it was only around $20.

>>33562627 (OP)
don't you'll just feel like shit afterwards, you'll have that rush but your dick probably won't work cause of anxiety and you won't cuddle or do anything after, Just get a gf bro please get a gf man

>>33563244
>Just get a gf bro please get a gf man
I've already said itt I'm an incel that isn't an option.

>>33562627 (OP)
Nah, just jerk it off and preserve your virginity for someone special, more ideally in marriage if you can reach that point. Why are you so desperate to "lose your virginity"? You sound American. Also to not move closer to the point of frying your neurological pair-bonding ability, and not risk contracting an STD.

>>33563188
Is there are name for this? I'm guessing by "some European countries" you mean Eastern Europe? I'm in Germany currently and even non-erotic massages aren't cheap.

>>33562627 (OP)
I did what you're about to do, anon. It's one my biggest regrets...

>>33563286
They were just called "erotic massage parlours" when I was there. The best are in Czechia and Russia, but I believe they also exist in Austria, maybe Poland and maybe Hungary.

>>33562627 (OP)
B

>>33562627 (OP)
I lost my virginity to a massage parlor lady and I felt really good and confident afterwards. It was huge weight off my back not having to worry about if I would ever lose my v-card or stay a virgin forever and it felt good coming in a pussy instead of using my hand again. In fact I felt so confident I picked up an old hobby I gave up on and I finally went to a bar to socialize with some people and had a good time. People that have sex regularly and pick up chicks easily simply do not understand the incel mindset and what we go through

>>33563403
also I would go with option B

>>33563403
You are a John and had to rape a woman with money to get access to her body.

>>33563525
That woman was a sue and had to rape my wallet with her body to get access to money

>>33563525
I’m a Jeffrey actually and no, she provided a service and I paid her for it. Simple as. In fact she tried get my number so that I could hire her often but I obviously refused because there’s no way in hell I’m spending 150 bucks for sex again

>>33563255
So what you actually like hate women or it's just you can't get any? Just improve your looks to the point of no return, get dating coaches or therapists to help your mind state, get ton of money and make a ugly third world woman your wife, she won't leave cause she ugly and don't have options lol

>>33563555
>>33563560
>Losers rapey incels wonder why no one likes them when they justify paying women to convince them to sleep with them so it's okay because you paid them and it wasn't coercion at all

lol off yourselfs, you all wouldn't be in the position to fuck some poor china lady if you treated women like people

>>33562627 (OP)
option b but 30 minutes you dont need 2 hours trust me

>>33562982
nigga no young man is having sex in 2025

>>33565172
you're so fucking stupid
Getting a GF has nothing to do with looks, money, coaches, or anything. You just have to get lucky. What would you tell someone who looks fine, has money, and a fine personality, and is still an incel?
Look around, you see women dating fat and ugly guys all the time. It's about luck. You can't will a girlfriend in existence. You can do the things you said and try to increase your odds, but it's not even close to guaranteed, and for most men those things won't actually fix anything.

>>33562627 (OP)
Is that her? Good choice

>>33566039
No, this is a trial and wrror thing in chemistry with each woman you find, it is all in how you listen to her and love her unlike everyone else. Think of it like this, imagine trying to date Taylor Swift. Would you show up like every other guy pulling the same shit, or would you be someone different who sees her like a human being and makes her feel heard like someone close? Think about that.

>>33566039
You DUMB NIGGER, that's why I said those things to increase your chances. Dating is like a fucking RPG sometimes, you increase your stats your chances of getting a partner goes higher. Why in the fuck should anyone date you if you whine all the time and look like shit, smell like shit and can't speak for shit? Also women want bad guys but not guys that actually hate them and say negative shit about them like not getting pussy from them, it reeks of desperation and entitlement and people in general don't like that.

>>33566865
>Why in the fuck should anyone date you if you whine all the time and look like shit, smell like shit and can't speak for shit?
in case you haven't noticed, this isn't a thread about dating, it's a thread about getting a hooker.

>>33566942
Yeah and getting hookers are gay and lame, and it's still technically rape if you get a woman to fuck you over money, you can pull women without any of that bro, I know you got it in you, gotta put effort and be a chad, never give up brah

>>33565856
Who cares. Everything is rape. If a women lies about her history to get you to date her, she is raping you. If you pay a waiter to serve you food when they don't want you, you raped them. If you get your kids to do their homework by threatening to withhold allowance, you're coercing and thus raping them.
Everything is rape. Society is built and runs on rape.

>>33567493
Do you know what's not rape?
>Man: Do you want to have sex?
>Woman: Yes I want to have sex with you
>Has sex

If this doesn't happen without any payment, intimidation, coercion, lying, blackmailing, brute force then it isn't rape, pretty simple incel.

>>33567613
It is rape*

Fuck sorry for the typo, christ I can't believe I fucked myself there

>>33567613
>Man: Do you want to have sex?
>Woman: Yes I want to have sex with you (but pay me)
>Has sex
:^)

Just be honest though, you think ugly and weird men should have to die without ever even touching a woman. Your attempts to post-hoc rationalize what is really just your disgust with undesirable men (which you fundamentally don't see as human) are cute, but worthless.

>>33567705
no she don't wanna have sex with you faggot if you gotta pay her, what kind of cuck loser shit is this. i never paid a woman to fuck because i'm not a incel retard, women ain't even that hard to deal with, you just have low test brotha

>>33562627 (OP)
Come on bro, give us some actual pictures so we can help you decide.

>>33562627 (OP)
Second sounds a good option, though you obviously like the milf.

Are you aware that you can get herpes just from skin contact? You can also get AIDS from breastfeeding. All of which sucks because those are what make me not hire an escort myself.

>>33566433
last time I checked Taylor Swift is dating a professional football player that makes millions of dollars, so unless you are also a professional football player that makes millions of dollars your chances are going to be below zero, charismatic as you are

>>33568544
>though you obviously like the milf.
Yeah I do... logically she's the worse option but something makes me want to roll the dice with her.
>Are you aware that you can get herpes just from skin contact?
Yes. If I see anything that looks like herpes around the pussy I will bail. I imagine if they do have herpes they will be on medication for it though, which reduces the transmission rate to near zero.
>You can also get AIDS from breastfeeding
I'm not planning on doing that so it shouldn't be an issue.

>>33562627 (OP)
My first fuck was a black prostitute
20 something, I guess, nice body
Not sure about the rate, most probably under 50€

I saw her AD in a magazine, she looked cheap and I called her

>>33567613
kek

>>33565856
I don’t hate women I’m just socially stunted and can’t talk to girls. If I hated women I would not have even bothered to leave the house and would’ve just stayed home to wallow in my wretchedness

>>33562627 (OP)
Why 2 hours? You have a plan for 2 hours?

>>33562627 (OP)
I'd rather die a virgin than give my virginity to an escort.

>>33570243
Man because it's in your head, you know that's not true, you're a regular human bean like everyone else, just at least try and if things don't work out, take a break from time to time and try again, I believe in you anon

>>33570249
I want to spend most of the time just cuddling and kissing which is just as appealing to me as sex.

>>33565172
Doing all of that is 10x more expensive than just paying a hooker. OP wants poon now.
Do it OP, it's a nothingburger. Everyone ITT making a big deal about it has never hired an escort and doesn't realize how insignificant of an event it is. You'll have forgotten what it felt like in a month. After a year you won't even be sure it happened. I did it twice and barely remember it.

>>33573137
What will OP learn? Once he gets the poon, he will live a boring empty life, just gloating about how he paid for poon, stupid, meaningless. He can do whatever he wants but I just wanted to give a suggestion so he doesn't fuck his life up more

>>33572225
I’ve tried picking up women at bars and dating apps but I’ve had no luck, hiring a hooker was honestly my last option at that point before I became a wizard

>>33562627 (OP)
Irrelevant with who you do it, as long as you lose it you're good.
>>33563279
VIRGINITY
IS
FEMININE
KYS NORMALFAG
>>33563289
You are a failed normalfag who deserves to suffer.

>>33570297
No, you don't.
Say it with me:
VIRGINITY
IS
FEMININE

>>33573157
It's not about learning, it's about not being a virgin.

>>33576835
>lose virginity

okay cool i'm not a virgin and people can't make fun of me, my life is so much better even though i paid for it and still a lonely sad sack of shit, got any better ideas anon?

>>33577358
You're a Normalfag who'd never understand. Virginity is the greatest shame a man can bear. You lost it at 14 to your first gf, so you are unable to comprehend what it's like to be an incel.

>>33577398
Is it the same for women too or something? Aren't there like old virgin ladies with cats? They don't seem to care that much besides wanting babies though, with men getting pussy ain't that special, having children and a future for yourself is peak male life

>>33577432
>Is it the same for women too or something?
No, virginity is feminine and thus valued in women.
>having children and a future for yourself
That's just a nice way of saying "Betabuxx Deluxe". Real high-value men don't need a "future" to get laid.

>>33577594
Real high-value men are just stupid man sluts, all they do is fuck random strange women to feel like an "alpha" and not even take care of their kids. Having a family is pretty based if you aren't a dumbass about you committing too.

>>33577673
https://youtu.be/rwJN7ABPy3s?si=2Xgpr62ZhcSIJdEC

>>33562627 (OP)
you should definetly go for option A it has more advantages than disavantages

>>33577673
>stupid man sluts
just call them assholes its shorter

>>33578170
Or you can call them the factual term (bilogically successful men).

I hope I reply in time and you are still a virgin.

I have been in your shoes, if I could go back I would not go with this route.

But anyway, what age gap are you? You're in your 20s, 30s?

And why losing your virginity is so important? What do you expect to get or feel, after you lose your virginity?

>>33578415
>And why losing your virginity is so important?
See>>33576806
>>33576828
and>>33576835

>>33578126
Elaborate.

>>33578415
>I hope I reply in time and you are still a virgin.
Neither could do this weekend so it's going to have to be next weekend annoyingly.
>But anyway, what age gap are you?
Early 20s.
>And why losing your virginity is so important?
I want to have sex in my 20s and the only way I can do that is through sex work. It's a sad situation but it is what it is.

>>33578726

"Just to not be a virgin" is no reason.

I can give my experience. I was expecting to be less anxious and more confortable with people, specially women. But after some months I was anxious and depressed again, so it did nothing for me.

If could go back, I would not lose my virginity.

>>33579116
Why it is so important for you to have sex in your 20s. What would be difference if you have sex in your 30s?

>>33579126
I just want to and I don't need to give moral justification for it.

>>33579178

Of course you don't need to justify. I don't think it is a question of morals, but a question of the Self Esteem and the Self Pride.
And altough you might think that you don't need think about it with a moral perspective, you won't escape in thinking about it.

When I did it, I felt good for a while. I said to myself "Yes, I got rid of it".

But as the time went on, I felt that I lost pride in myself. And weak in mind and spirit. I felt that I submitted to a thing that is so low.

And also with time, I felt angry, of why some guys has to submit to these kind of low life things, while others guys are on easy mode in life, have friends, are loved and are respected.

And the people offering you the service, don't think that they respect you and will give you the best service as they can. They might be good in pretending that you deserve the best, but in their hearts they despise you. They think you're a gross and a loser, equal to a disgusting old man that can't get laid and has to resort to this.
Don't give them a chance, of thinking about you with scorn and in despicable way.

Do your future Self a favor, think a hundred times about this before you go.

>>33573068
Don't do that with a prostitute. I guarantee you, you have no desire for that. After you cum, you just wanna leave.
Completely different feeling with a girl a you like.

>>33579261
>>33579261
>And the people offering you the service, don't think that they respect you
???
Why would I think that?
>but in their hearts they despise you
???
Nobody cares. I despise them too.
You don't go there to get "respect"
They don't even respect themselves, why would I want their """respect""" ?
I go there to get a service.

>Do your future Self a favor, think a hundred times about this before you go.
Just go. It's like drinking a beer. You don't have to read moral philosophy to do that. You get what you pay for, and then it's done.

So sex is like drinking a beer? What is your race and your nationality?

>>33579383
>So sex is like drinking a beer?
No, going with prostitutes is like drinking a beer. Legal, slightly exciting, sometimes expensive, sometimes cheap (depends on the beer), after all not a big deal: everybody does it.

>R-RACE & NATIONALITY???
Half Western European- Half Southern European. Germanic roots on both sides. Blond and extremely fair-skinned as a kid, became brown haired later. Blue-grey eyes. High IQ (they say), quite big dick (they say). Might have partial jewish ancestry.
What else do you want to know?