Thread 33598439

When do you let your family and friends know that your terminal?
Got screened earlier this summer and they found cancer, then did a second more thorough screening and its pretty much everywhere, and without advancing medical science 150 years there's nothing anyone can do to stop me from dying.
If my doctors are to be taken at their word, I'll be dead before January.

I don't really have any good idea of when to tell people that i'm not gonna be around because I dont want to put people in a situation where they feel like they are required to give me their attention when I ask for it, and also dont want to cause everyone an extended period of grieving in knowing that i'm gonna be dead sooner rather than later. But, I also know that when i've had friends that were dying, I wished I knew sooner so I could be there if they needed something, though i'm also a person that made peace with people dying forever ago so death isn't a big thing for me the way it is for others.

>>33598439 (OP)
It is entirely your choice, for entirely selfish reasons, who you tell and what you tell. But those self-serving motives should move you to tell at least a few trusted people, because you are going to have to lean on them at some point.

tell them when i speak to them i guess

the real question is: how do you segue into "i'm riddled with cancer"?

>>33598439 (OP)
I apologize for being dismissive of your condition but look into joe rogan clips about cancer. There is a non-zero probability that we are being lied to about cancer; we're talking big time conspiracies that the doctors aren't even in on. The doctors told my father he'd be dead 100% in ten years and that was around 15 years ago, he recovered. Your condition seems worse than my father's was, but joe rogan talks about people in your condition recovering through diet. My father became a big diet head because of cancer and he says he feels like a teenager now.

Hope this helps, don't trust the doctors 100%, everyone's human and makes mistakes.

>>33598595
I'm going to heave to lean on them at some point? At what point in the next two to three months would that be? I don't intend on sounding like an asshole but that last part got to me because it makes sense long term but not short term.

>>33598636
I've dropped a couple hints with some people when I was sufficiently drunk, or, at least, i've said things like "What are you gonna do when im dead?", "Man I dont care, consequences are a myth to me", and "I not waiting, I dont got time for that", and most recently someone asked if I wanted to go on a trip next month and I said "Fuck it, lets go now, my treat, I dont got time to waste". THAT single person pulled me aside and said I wasn't being myself lately and I asked how much they wanted to know, because knowing will change their perception of me, and they know everything and have mostly stopped hitting me up. I don't think he told anyone, because one of the people he would've told would have jumped down my throat and forcibly moved into my house to take care of me if she knew about it, and as much as i'd like that there is a non-zero chance i'd take advantage of her good nature in that scenario, which i'm not okay with.

>>33598701
I went in to get screened because I had some massive fatigue that just would not go away, weird (but otherwise unnoticeable) lumps on my body, eating a huge amount but still losing weight, and weird ass pains all over my body, biopsy said Adenocarcinoma on my pancreas, and a more extreme exam had my body lit up like a fucking Christmas tree on imaging. For real, the doctors came back from the second set of imaging with a grief counselor.

>>33598747
>dropping hints like a female
>got drunk and traumatized my friend
>thinking medicine isn't more art than science
wtf bro, get it together

>>33598701
Shut up conspiracy Faggot

>>33598804
>"I dont know what to do, but this is what i'm doing, what should I do?"
>"Get it together"
Bro, why do you think i'm here?

>>33598701
>apologize for being dismissive of your condition but look into joe rogan clips about cancer. There is a non-zero probability that we are being lied to about cancer; we're talking big time conspiracies that the doctors aren't even in on.
that's not a conspiracy dumbass

cancer is 500 different diseases. it's impossible to study even a fraction, and every person has minute genetic differences that turn the tide in some random cases

reality is just complex

>>33598842
Too bad he'll continue trying to spread Joe rogan propaganda like cancer is one single disease and he's "being lied to". Remember Steve Jobs and how he died of cancer after messing around with alt medicine?

>>33598842
>reality is just complex
I agree with you and you're arguing for me without realizing. Doctors will tell you they have it figured out and that you're dead no matter what despite how little information there is on treating cancer. The human body is unbelievably complex, and some people have been able to make recoveries through diet changes so why not try?

The conspiracy lies in the idea that doctors make their money operating on you, not by healing you. So there is little incentive for the average doctor to suggest alternative healing methods like diet change because that would be less lucrative than chemotherapy.


>>33598849
I'm not peddling joe rogan, I'm peddling my real life observation that doctors are fallible (my dad proved them wrong)

>>33598919
same anon, I want to add that my dad did chemo too and it very well might have been the reason he survived. All I'm saying is that modern medicine/science is incomplete and you shouldn't give up just because a doctor said you should.

>>33598824
ok well stop doing those things, much better to nut up and tell them you've got some bad news
(youtube will have a better "how to tell people i have terminal illness" than me)

and if the doctors say theres nothing they can do, they're useless to you
go full keto and start praying to random gods

>riddled with cancers
how many mrna "shots" did you take?
>When do you let your family and friends know that your terminal?
you dont. you made your bed and now you have to sleep in it.
it would be highly amoral (read negative karmic entanglements on your side) to burden others with your very own mistakes allthewile there where people who tried to warn you.
you enjoy your time youve got left and make the best of it.

you even are LUCKY that so called medicine have you a prospect a prognosis, lest you completly sit in darkness and "died suddenly".
additionally, the audacity of you to even make this thread and ask for advice.
you know the rest
at least you dont ask for treatments, that would take the cake.

you can discard and disregard what i wrote above if you did not take any so called mrna vaccines; ie. the cause for your cancers are not arising through your own fault

>>33600811
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you sure in the right thread?

>>33598439 (OP)
Are you into Buddhism man? That’s a good thing to get into if you know you’re dying. Actually just generally.

You see, suffering comes from being attached to life. You just have to not care bro.

But no really, this sucks massively, I couldn’t imagine the dread I would feel. I got to see my own father perish to lung cancer and that was a pretty ugly thing.

Hospitals suck big time.

Well OP, do you have any ideas? Did you lead a particularly unhealthy life? Drugs, processed foods? Living near chemical plants? Is it a random unlucky occurrence? Family history of cancer? Did ya exercise?

How was life, did you love it did you hate it?
And some of your favorite things? Food, movies, games, music, books etc?

Well, you’re a fellow 4chan brother in arms so we will miss you. Hate to see you going.

I can’t say anything confidently on if there is something beyond death and whether our consciousness transcends us, im pretty scientific materialist myself but there’s some weird things about science that makes me say “hmm I don’t know maybe there is something greater than death”?

So if you have any way of letting us know, let us know. Something like astrally projected shitposting?

>>33600998
I've never been into religion, as depressing as it sounds, I do believe that once youre dead thats it, you dont even know youre dead, its why i've never been in favor of suicide in most cases since you wont actually feel any relief.

My life hasn't really been that unhealthy. A lot of processed foods, but I never got into drugs, smoking, weed, never really got into alcohol until I got my diagnosis cause at this point it doesnt actually matter. Never lived around chemical plants afaik. Not really a history of cancer but i'm guessing just really, really unlucky. I've always been thin despite eating like a horse so I never really exercised but I was never in bad shape.

Life sucked, overall. Spent over 25 years being depressed and trying to find ways of dealing with it that didnt involve SSRI's. Every day waking up miserable, and wishing for an accident to take me out, despite having two firearms for the past 16 years. Tried to avoid my siblings pitfalls in life like not getting into drugs, not sleeping around and having kids, not cheating in relationships, trying to be a generally decent person where they all tended to fail. Got cheated on a lot, Every relationship i've been in was them asking me out, while every attempt at me asking someone else out I got rejected, so make sense of that.

Spent a lot of time trying to learn new things. Learned american sign language, japanese, german, spanish. Learned how to weld, paint, automotive repair, pottery, sewing, knitting, field dressing after a hunt, dog training, glass blowing, baking, basically if there was a community class or could be a community class for it, I probably took it and learned a decent amount, anything to get my mind off depression. Hell, I learned how to do animation with Koikatsu because my waifu never got any fan art and I wanted to change that, so I just learned how to do it on a whim. Nothing really stuck though.

If there was an afterlife, all them jews from ww2 wouldve said something.

>>33601121
It’s understandable, most religion is garbage. Well you see Buddhism is more cool because it can be very atheistic and or agnostic.

But yes, from the sound of it, it seems mostly unlucky, although maybe you could’ve been slightly healthier, and you mentioned SSRIs so idk if you took prescription medication at some point, you hear about all the whacky side effects those things can cause, up to and including cancer.

But also I take it, you’re not the kind of person who would get checked regularly at the doctor? Because for it to be terminal it would sort of imply it’s been there a while unnoticed! How often were you getting checked at the doctor? And how long were you feeling this unrelenting fatigue? And noticing bumps on you? Are those just inflamed lymph nodes?

I’m sorry you’re stay here at life sucked. It can be that way sometimes. You are like Jesus in a way. Your life of suffering will not be in vain, but alas it will be one added brick to the road that leads to the curing of the ailments you’ve suffered, mental and physical. And again, for bearing that cross, we thank you

Sounds like with the women you maybe have been too nice of a guy, which they don’t like. Maybe even a pushover?

But hey, at this point? Bang some prostitutes?
Take LSD, and or mushrooms? Smoke some weedy? Why not? At the very least take some LSD. In fact do all those thing with prostitutes!?


Those sound like cool hobbies. I taught myself a little bit of a second language. Glass blowing sounds really cool, what did you like to bake? I need some lemon bars. Id also be interested in your pottery and animation. I like to play music.

Of course those ww2 Jews said plenty, how do you think they got Israel and did so good with it?!

>>33601246
Yeah nah I almost never went to the doctor unless there was a problem I couldnt deal with, and the constant fatigue was one of them because my job was a very physically inclined one so always being physically wiped out wasnt cutting it. I also had a lump on my back that was found last year that I did nothing about because I just didnt care to, cause when I found out about it I had just changed careers, had the house I was gonna close on get bought out in cash right from under me, so adding that to the pile wasnt worth it for me.

With the women, a lot of it was they seemed to like the idea of me, but when confronted with the reality of me they changed their minds. Like, in my experience, women always say they want their men to be emotionally available, but what they seem to actually mean is that they want to feel special to their man but dont know how else to say it. I won't say i'm a pushover, my best friends a woman, and I told her at one point that I was going to fuck her right then and there if she kept flirting, and she thought I was kidding until I grabbed her and pinned her to the wall and acted like I was going to, until she cried, and I was like "the next time I tell you youre going to far, i'm not going to warn you or stop", and shes been cool about it since then.

I'm not super interested in sex really. It doesn't do a whole lot for me, depression has a way of killing it. I've tried weed several times, I just dont care for it, tastes like shit and hurts my lungs. Shrooms did nothing for me too and just tasted bad entirely.

Glass blowing was okay, but everyone there smoked weed or did hard drugs and kept trying to push them onto me so I stopped going. For baking, probably cinnamon rolls, easy and delicious, hard to ruin them.

I dunno man, i'm jewish by blood but i'm entirely against judaism, last time I was at a synagogue I got into a fight the the rabbi and they tried to charge me with a hate crime over it.

>>33601383
nta, thank you for posting op. It's nice reading about your life. Were there any moments that broke the depression even if momentarily? Any highlights that made you think life wasn't so bad for a bit?

Your perspective on what women want was interesting to read, are there any other general insights or pieces of advice you'd be willing to share?

If I were you, OP, send a blanket message to your friends and family that you're terminal and want to be left alone while you spend your last few months doing drugs and cheap hookers in the Caribbean. Then tell your friends they're welcome to join you because you love them but there's no pressure as you would feel guilty if they disrupted their lives in such short notice.

Then honestly go and enjoy your last remaining months. Spend a month watching every single anime or movie you've ever wanted to watch, eating junk food. Or go get rekt at Vegas or Thailand as you have unprotected sex with (legal) teen girls in the Philippines on a daily basis.

>>33598439 (OP)
OP, listen to me. Take Fenbendazole or Mebendazole. It's the strongest, safest anti-cancer treatment according to studies. Doctors won't ever recommend it because it makes zero profit for them. Hospitals are for-profit businesses like any other, which is why they charge $200 for a Tylenol or band-aid. See pic related, although I don't like Artemisinin since it's hard on the liver.

Take fenben+zinc three times daily. Anti-cancer.

>>33598439 (OP)
>When do you let your family and friends know that your terminal?
I think its incredibly selfish to withhold this information. You might not think it is important but many people may have vested interest in spending as much time with you as possible. That's just me. I feel it a disservice not to tell my loved ones I will be going away and not give them a chance to spend time with me. I think it would hurt them more if I had lied and suddenly went away from their lives. Try to live a life to better others' I would say.
>I don't really have any good idea of when to tell people
since you have official documentation, I would tell them as soon as possible. Sit those closest during dinner and let them know- you might want to do it slowly and not so suddenly, in a setting most appropriate.

>>33598747
To be cold-blooded about it, somebody is going to be stuck with your body and it might ne courteous to give them advance warning. Less cold-blooded, you are likely to need someone to run errands for you before the end. And you may find yourself needing a shoulder to cry on or a willing ear to hear what you have to say

>>33602027
Not really, most of my depression was still there in the back of my mind waiting, like, I went on vacation a couple months ago with my best friend, who is absolutely one of the prettiest women i've ever seen, and even while I was face deep in the back of her head in the cold nights in the tent, that depression was still there, even the sex was ruined by it, and that was when I decided I wasn't going to get treatment, even at my happiest it wasnt enough.

Well, women with significant body modification tend to be the best in bed but lack staying power in relationships. When a woman starts complaining, shes not looking for a solution, she usually just wants you to agree with what shes saying,. When a women says she wants to be handled rough, what she usually means is she wants to feel desired but safe, so things like tightly holding her body to yours can go a long way, same with some light to moderate biting and arm restriction.

>>33602109
Sending a group chat to everyone and then dipping out of it might be the best way, yeah, so everyone is on the same page at the same time.

>>33602180
What manner of setting would be appropriate in your opinion?

>>33603232
I'm very aware of this, i'm not planning on dying in a hospital, once im out of money im done, and my plan is that when i get close ill just clean out my apartment, skip rent, and then wait to the sheriff to show up to remove me, but eat a bullet in the bathtub. That way my body is dealt with immediately, clean up is easy, and theres no investigation about foul play. I do have someone that is completely in the loop, they've got my log in info for most things and they've been advised that if i'm offline for more than 3 days to go send out my good byes to everywhere that I listed for him.

Oof, I'm so sorry anon. I can't imagine what you're going through but I'd probably just bluntly announce it and try to spend as much time as possible with my loved ones. Throw a party maybe, go out with a bang.

>>33600997
i asked the original poster (OP) of this thread, who stated that he or she is terminal ill (riddled with cancers all over his/her body) how many so called modified messenger ribonucleic acid therapeutical injections (mrna vaccines) they took betwen 2021 and today. (alluding to the now proven fact that these therapeutics in fact are carcinogen alias cancer causing)
if their answer would be anything other than zero (0), the above part in my post ending in 811 would be in effect.

what is so hard to comprehend?

I'd tell them now personally.

With the women, a lot of it was they seemed to like the idea of me, but when confronted with the reality of me they changed their minds. Like, in my experience, women always say they want their men to be emotionally available, but what they seem to actually mean is that they want to feel special to their man but dont know how else to say it. I won't say i'm a pushover, my best friends a woman, and I told her at one point that I was going to fuck her right then and there if she kept flirting, and she thought I was kidding until I grabbed her and pinned her to the wall and acted like I was going to, until she cried, and I was like "the next time I tell you youre going to far, i'm not going to warn you or stop", and shes been cool about it since then.

well alrighty then.

>>33601121
Here’s my two cents on what you should do. First just announce your condition to the world. There’s no point in being coy or secretive here. You deserve to keep your dignity and you might think you’re being a burden or whatever but really you aren’t. You need to come clean. Second you need to try fasting for extensive periods. Start with a 3 day dry fast meaning no food or liquid. Change your diet. Eat lean meat, plenty of fruit and veggies and yogurt. If you’re feeling very brave then you can try even longer fasts but make sure to no your limits. This is the only way to make your body eat the cancer cells. Also look into picrel which is excellent at fighting free radicals. Following these steps might buy you more time or even change your course