Thread 33619415

stop beating yourself up. women are the problem, and they refuse to change

toxic femininity:
-expecting people to read their mind
-delusions about people they haven't fully met yet
-delusions about their ideal man
-low testosterone and lack of decision making skills
-screaming during an emergency
-worrying about people judging them when really it's other women who are judging them the most
-size queens who will never be satisfied and always go bigger and bigger
-harem psychology / going after the same small percentage of men
-pre-selection (harem pyschology)
- co-ruminating (hating on the low status men to reinforce harem psychology for focusing on the men of higher status)
-poaching men from other women (harem psychology)
-eternal daughter archetype
-devouring mother archetype
-femme fatale archetype
-nose ring theory made real
-fake accusations about rape when really it's regret from projecting their own insecurities on to a man they want to publically tear down so he's lower status, even when the man likes them and would never talk shit about the women he was with
-double standards about anything and everything
-older women not letting younger men pursue them is just as toxic as younger women not giving older men a chance
-not seeing men as human beings if they have emotions
-being intolerant of men who may be slightly insecure when women themselves are far more insecure
-intolerance of men with lack of social skills. even autistic women are intolerant (even more so) of autistic men
-looking for excuses not to have sex or make physical connections
-inability to be friends with benefits
-refusal to understand or willful ignorance of the fact that sex and ejaculation is a bodily function for men. it is a requirement for men's health well in to and past middle age
-trauma dumping and floodlighting to bait men in to being emotional or look for reciprocating emotional support

-ghosting, which is incredibly toxic and antisocial. the height of hypocrisy to make social demands but cut people off with no reason or explanation
-addiction to social media and dating apps instead of meeting people in real life
-inability to cope with the reality of men wanting to approach them in real life, or rejecting men who approach them in real life
-not communicating
-not communicating sexual desires or methods for sexual acts. literally women's fault if a man isn't pleasing her if she doesn't tell him how she wants to be pleased
-no self awareness about how their behavior destroys relationships (compare lesbian divorce rates to gay man divorce rates)
-lack of testosterone also means women don't take the initiative to do shit like make the first move (lesbian bed death)
-bullying single men and dehumanizing single men (part of co-rumination)

>>33619415 (OP)
Yet men indulge these behaviors and often exacerbate it with their own shitty antics.
By saying that women are the only problem you effectively deny me any salvation, it gives me nothing to work with, nothing to improve upon as an individual.
It's like saying
>"Wow my house is full of trash that my roommates left behind after they were kicked out"
Sure it's my roommates fault, but I still have to clean that shit up.
Give me solutions here asshole, I don't just want to complain.

>>33619436
>give me solutions

there are none when just by showing interest means the women perceive that signal is that you are lower value or lower status

>nothing to improve on as an individual
and women would lie to you and say that you should do it for yourself. yet here we are

>i don't just want to complain
trust me, women do that far more than we ever will

i forgot another one

-expecting men to be okay with themselves, but if you say "i should come to terms with being alone" they shut down because they perceive it as having to do with low self esteem instead of healthy acceptance, that's the logical conclusion of being okay with yourself.

it literally doesn't matter what you do.

>give me solutions
the solution is that society needs to make it known that women are the problem and they are the ones that have to change if we are no longer living in the wilderness. this is the society they have rights in and can vote in, they can no longer expect men to adhere to gender roles. that time is over.

-hypergamy, even when having a career and salary to be a breadwinner, women still refuse to marry down with a working class man, or a man willing to be a homemaker from the beginning

>>33619474
It's because women and men in modern society are unhealthy, minds often distorted by degeneracy spreading through media and culture, and having no basis for healthy relationships, or what it takes to create them.
It wasn't always like this, and it isn't just because of women's suffrage, as there are examples of matriarchal civilizations that functioned much healthier then modern ones do.
We have to reconstruct how we perceive these shitty social illusions, and align our perceptions with the truth.

OP you're based and fuck the simps telling you that you're wrong.

>>33619436
>BUT THE MEN DO IT
Only scumbags do it, back then actual men used to keep them away from their daughters, even going as far as to shoot them.

>>33619550
the ironic part is that i'm a simp. i couldn't have possibly learned this without genuinely caring about women and them rejecting me precisely because caring about a woman signals to a woman (in her mind) that you are low value

>>33619535
i agree that social media makes things worse. i disagree and i think that it has always been like this. women having the vote didn't make things worse. women are staying awful DESPITE also having the vote.

>matriarchal civilizations that functioned much healthier
they might have. i think that's feasible, but they're few and far between for a reason

>we have to align our perceptions to the truth
i agree, we should treat women as equals and tell them they're being dipshits when they act like dipshits

-double standards about age gaps. society throwing a tantrum if an older man is with a younger woman to infantilize women, yet everyone's fine with it when a younger man is with an older woman. one of the things i love saying is "yeah, pro-life conservatives agree with you that women are children who cannot make decisions for themselves"
-talking shit about men who are attracted to petite women. saying that a woman can't be attractive for x reason (looking young) is literally body shaming

>>33619550
Never said he was wrong nigger, just that there ought to be more to the equation.

>>33619558
No I'm talking about either simps who encourage women's behavior or the fuckboys who sleep around and do the same shitty things that women do.
Threatening the boyfriend with a gun is effective, but there are more effective measures, which start with actually educating children on how to better select partners and be responsible, rather then encouraging smoking and drinking and saying "They're teenagers so they're just going to do it anyway."

>>33619564
It's a balancing act, that is the essence of any relationship, and of society as a whole. Care about the women who actually care about you, otherwise I agree, we should stop caring about shitty women.

>>33619590
>care about women who care about you
women do not care about men. if they did, men could be emotional and vulnerable without the consequence of being rejected and dehumanized

>>33619590
>actually educating children on how to better select partners and be responsible, rather then encouraging smoking and drinking and saying "They're teenagers so they're just going to do it anyway."
Maybe with boys, but with girls I sincerely think they shouldn't have a choice, or if they do, they should be approved suitors by the father.

>>33619602
that won't work because there are parents who will literally never approve of anyone for their spoiled shitty princess

>>33619593
Ya maybe don't trauma dump on your date when first meeting them, but you are not going to gain a life partner by being an emotionally cold robot.
There is a distinction to be made here anon.

>>33619602
We don't educate women because we think they are born perfect, that is the poison of society, and why we circumcise men but don't circumcise women.
Women can be educated, but nobody makes an effort to do so, or correct them when they're wrong.

>>33619622
>don't trauma dump
no shit. i'm talking about women who do it.
i got floodlighted and i was planning on waiting months or years to tell a woman about something i blocked out for 30 years. the second i became emotional or sought even a little bit of reassurance, she lost interest because women do not see men as human beings if they have feelings

>>33619615
Sadly so, I'm lucky to have had good parents.
My mother managed to be a great example to my own sister.

>>33619622
I know, but I think on an individual level we can do better to educate them and shield them from the retardation of modern faggot society

>>33619635
Ya think maybe she was just a shitty person?

>>33619638
Absolutely, it's a fight and a struggle to keep yourself free of modern hedonism, especially with all the negative emotions that come from fighting against things that most people don't recognize.
That's why you have to be selective.
The larger societal change is the hard part.

>>33619663
>Hedonism
Well, I'll admit that I am hedonistic with some things, but I try to do them in moderation

>>33619663
>you think she was a shitty person
absolutely. however my point still stands. most women are like this. even female platonic friends will not fully accept a man that is emotional. i've literally had a female friend to just talk to a mutual male friend instead

i had a coworker, i opened up to her about some things (not interested in dating her) and in retrospect i now understand she started viewing me with disgust months before she had a meltdown and turned on me

>>33619681
*female friend tell me to just

when talking about issues

>>33619681
I've decided that I keep some topics away from the ears of a woman that isn't my own sister, aunt, or mother.
This is why you need male friends and more importantly we need more male spaces.
I should start a gun club or join one.

>>33619706
>keep some topics away from women
>this is why we need male spaces

precisely. women do not see men as human beings.

>>33619681
People typically have their own problems, even among my old friends they weren't really capable of handling emotions like that.
I get that you need an outlet to express some things, maybe rely on family?
Keep searching, health is rare thing in this world.

>>33619712
>you should keep searching, you know? nevermind we're on an anonymous public forum
>ignores the main point that women are the problem

>>33619711
Yeah, I'm blessed to have 3 great friends that listen to my shit.

>>33619724
Women are the problem, sure, now what are you going to do about it retard?
We can complain about all the societal changes that have to take place but it gives us no room to act.
Complaints without resolution are a waste of time. And given how you seem hellbent on screaming about how much you suffer, I'd reckon most the people you share your emotions with probably don't want to talk about it with you because you wan't listen to them when they try to talk you through solutions.
Suffer in silence, at least then you'd be an honest man.

>>33619750
tell women they need to change. men are already doing most of the work. get a fucking argument

>suffer in silence
>don't expect anything to change
>you're the problem by the way

>>33619635
Men don't care about men. When there's a war and half the men are dead that's life.

>>33619622
Women don't benefit from being over educated to fit some stupid quota. Women especially don't benefit from being corrected. You're taking away the natural consequences of whatever their actions are and replacing them with fake social ones.

>>33619415 (OP)
i mean yeah you are right but id rather keep trying

>>33619779
I do tell women they need to change you fucking retard, but it's not a one way street.
You're just going to sit around waiting for women to magically improve? If we don't keep things in perspective then what's the point? You're just a bitch, stay that way if that's what you want.

>>33619780
Everyone should be educated on objective reality and health, it's not a quota, it's the truth. Learning from your behavior is great and all, but if we want civilization to function we have to educate the next generation on how to avoid our mistakes.

>>33619830
nowhere have i said to stop trying

>>33619836
>its not a one way street
true. but who's doing most of the work? who's expected to be the breadwinner? who's expected to initiate everything? wake the fuck up, anon.
>you're just a bitch
and yet you don't see the irony of calling me a word describing a woman, because women are the problem

btw OP what were the things you told the women that started being disgusted with you?

>>33619415 (OP)
For thousands of years men have carried all the burdens of providing and everything that comes with civilization. Now it's women's time to pick up the slack and carry civilization forward.
My plan is to be a neet and for women wagies to pay their fair share by providing for me and everybody else in society for the next six thousand years.

It's time for men to sit back, relax and take it very easy for the next two thousand years at the very least. We earned it after all.

>>33619849
stop trying to make it personal. i posted a long list of things to talk about. almost all dating coaches for men also tell their viewers not to talk about their emotions or show emotional interest. literally everyone knows this. women are ghosting men on the regular, every day. your attempt to change the subject is noted and disregarded

>>33619866
im just asking what specifically you said that made these women disgusted with you out of curiosity Im not the anon calling you a bitch btw

>>33619860
that makes since. after all, we're taking credit for "the patriarchy" already, aren't we? since we had everything to do with oppression, we should be allowed to take the passenger side seat

>>33619848
Men, yes I agree, most of the weight is on men, which is why it is up to men to find the most meaningful solution.
You're not discussing solutions though, at least not at an individual level. Societal changes start from the hearts of individuals, so what can we do as individuals to effect meaningful change?

>>33619860
Ya except you'll probably remain single, as will anyone else who takes your advice.

>>33619873
well i'm glad you're not the anon giving me shit but i'm not going to answer the question because it doesn't matter. the point is that it could be literally anything about a man's emotional life or interest and it disgusts women. oh that's another one

>>33619415 (OP)

-women have higher levels of disgust (scientifically proven)

>>33619875
*sense*

>>33619876
>imagine not overcoming your programming
Couldn't be me, your pussy simply has no power over me.

>>33619876
Buddy
The best we can do as individuals is to maintain our health and finances.
Anything else would unironically require destroying the current system, and I am dead fucking serious

>>33619887
There is nothing new under the sun.
Ignore your biological imperatives and suffer as a result.

>>33619890
So then why don't we focus on that then? Male only spaces need to be productive, otherwise we just turn into women.
Problem is the anons that actually succeed will never post here again, so this place just festers.

>>33619876
>societal change
yeah. society needs to take the list i've made and post it the fuck everywhere for women to read

>>33619836
You're wasting your time telling women to change. They did change and they're compelled to choose the least resistant path.

Sure... school has been great at teaching objective reality. All that's happening is standardizing the status quo and obedience of authority. Over half of school should be scrapped.

>>33619905
>women did change
no the fuck they didn't

men can't change the fact they have to fuck and ejaculate to be healthy. women's problems are psychological and that can be worked on. hilarious to me that the entire point of therapy is to help people change their behavior yet women use it as an excuse to just fucking talk instead of change their behavior. that's because society allows them to stay the same, not because they can't grow up

>>33619903
>>33619905
Homeschooling. The family unit has to be the basis of education, so parents can directly impart these lessons on their children, because public schools encourage degeneracy.
Common core and all homogenized education is niggertier and should be foregone.
>you're wasting your time telling men to change
>you're wasting your time telling women to change
>You're wasting your time
Evidently I am, because none of you want to talk solutions.
Personally, I think dating apps are trash, but I've been using one of them because I have no other way to meet people rn.

>>33619921
Why do you think that having frequent orgasms necessitates promiscuity? Are you a retard or something?

>>33619953
>orgasms necessitates promiscuity?
holy shit it's like you don't get that women have the sex drive of a wet blanket compared to men

>>33619953
>schooling
the public school system needs a serious overhaul, no argument there.
>none of you want to talk solutions
fucker i'm the OP and i just posted a list that society can go through and talk about what the fuck do you even mean. we wouldn't even be having this conversation unless i posted

this feels like a thinly veiled demoralization thread

>>33619900
I'm all for male spaces but we need to make it in a way that wont put us under some kike from the SPLC or any other fuckhead lawyer looking for an easy Civil Rights Act case

>>33619967
>holy shit it's like you don't get that women have the sex drive of a wet blanket compared to men
You can still have a healthy sex drive and be monogamous, dipshit.

>>33620013
Every. Single. Time.

>>33620031
Many such cases, that's why it's so hard to organize in real life, always some Jew or Mason lurking around the corner ready to distort shit.
you have to be selective.

>>33620110
Masons are cool in my book, The Founding Fathers were masons anyway

>>33619415 (OP)
Yeah, girls are pretty spoiled. Despite all of that, people still line up to work hard for them, and even be chosen to be the one allowed to kiss their ass and forgive every little thing.
But I don't see any solution.
Even with this amount of ass-kissing and bending-over-backwards, guys still can't convince women to have any children. If they just give up and let it go, this species won't last another 50 years.

>>33620307
The founding fathers built this country with the intention of separating Europeans from their ancestral lands/traditions, causing neurosis and insanity to spread.

>>33620358
Good
Fuck feudalism, fuck old world faggotry
America was a place for Europeans who were based and didn't want to be some King or Lord's bitch

>>33620396
>Freemason solutions to freemason problems
How about fuck both of them?
Feudalism was caused by the occult, Roman rule and Christian destruction disrupted how Europeans lived in ancient times, and erased the history of how these cultures existed.
Abrahamics are occult constructs, as they result in the destruction of the world. Hence Christian Doomsday cults.

>>33619415 (OP)
Spoiler: They are way nicer and easier to handle when you are high value.

>>33620973
Christianity has been a part of Western Civilization for well over 1,700+ years
Evangelicals are just retarded heretics

>>33621255
Every sect says that about every other sect, but actually look at what Christianity has justified. The forced conversion of Europeans resulted in the destruction of language, and thus the oral traditions and European perspective of the world was forever damaged.
The amount of environmental destruction perpetrated by Christians over the past 2000 years is all you need to see the true nature of this organization.
Or maybe the Second Crusades where they used children to fight in their wars.
The only other appeal to Christianity is to the teachings of Christ themself, which cannot be known with certainty due to the infection the Church sects had in revision, and the impurity of language.
But the teachings themselves advocate a separation of body from spirit, which is itself destructive towards nature and everything good in the world, because it sees the natural world as a thing to be tossed aside to the convenience of the spirit.

>>33621352
So whats your alternative? Hinduism? Which is a religion of savages that wont even let you have a proper cheeseburger?

>>33621376
I don't have an alternative, so ultimately if Christianity gives you purpose then don't let me stop you, just be cautious of the seeds you're planting.
To me, the modern world has me separated from truth, because everything is a syncretic cluster fuck, and all the ancestral ways have been desecrated or outright destroyed.
I do believe that there is history and knowledge being kept form us, but I don't know what for sure that is.
Pursue health, pursue nature, embrace what God made you, no matter what race you are. Try to study your ancestors. There you might find the purpose God has imbued in you.

>>33621395
I aim to stick to my morals, principles, values and ethics.
I want to be strong, but also educated
I want a big strong family that will grow into a tribe

moids will make up literally anything before they take accountability. evil defines moids.
KAM. if ur a moid who thinks u should kys and no one will miss you, you're right.

>>33619415 (OP)
Nah I'm doing good I got hit on 4 times now

lack of estrogen means moids lie instead of controlling themselves.
being worthy of life is a female trait, that includes trans, if ur trans male kys

>>33621399
I wish you luck man, I want the same thing, but I'm probably too fucked up for it.
Keep your head up and stay wise.

>>33621457
Whatever, I'll just grill in peace

testosterone causes moids to constantly act like victims. no peace with moids.

>>33619415 (OP)
I just want a good man to love me.

>>33619415 (OP)
I didn't think this board could get any more regarded but you sure showed me.

>>33619474

Even Chad is sick of women.

>>33621946
Then stop only going for alpha chads.

>>33621946
Be what the good men want.
>>33622175
Only go for the alpha chads

it's called reproductive suppression
they use identity politics to enforce gynocentrism on extreme scale to the point of behavior sink
the Good times indeed create weak men
fruits of liberalism and coddling parents

>>33622175
I literally don't

>>33622178
I want to be loved for who I am

>>33622175
i love alpha chads

>>33622107
your small mind couldn't handle it

>>33619415 (OP)
oh whoops forgot others

-women never correct people who say women are complicated when actually, women are not complicated at all, they're just capricious and two faced

-women expect monogamy but are the leading cause of divorce

look up gay marriage divorce rate (the smallest divorce rate) then look up lesbian divorce rate (the highest divorce rate)

that's really all you need to know, isn't it?

>>33622479
sure

>>33622515
you sure have no argument

>>33622525
anon i just achieved a new record in cumming to snoo the reddit mascot why would i want to argue with this, i just really needed to tell it to someone

>>33622543
you sound like you're drunk and you still have no argument

I’m 46. I have a 30 year old woman that I’ve become friends with and now she works for me.

Shes always known I was married. She hooked up with this guy that moved In With her. Her and I have messed around a bit. She’ll send me stuff. Shes been wanting to move out and leave him but has some bills holding her back.

She posted something the other day. This guy never likes her stuff. She saw him liking other guys stuff. Yada yada yada she got mad at him so she blew me in a park this week for some money.


Treat your girlfriends right young men.

>>33623262
*liking other girls posts

>>33619415 (OP)
What advice are you asking for?

>>33623262
>sluts gon slut
can't wife a ho, or: don't give a relationship to a cheater

>>33619415 (OP)
>it's another "I just realized women don't treat me like my mommy did and have flaws so now im completely atomized and this is the cornerstone of my worldview and core philosophy even though i really dont actually interact with women that often" thread

>>33619436
Your idiot propaganda isn't working anymore

>>33623278
My mommy treated me like trash and abused me.
Am I allowed to think women's behavior is vile?

>>33623278
As the anon that's been the devils advocate this whole thread, this better be low quality bait.
Men have this perspective because women treat them like shit and expect the entire world from them.
Ask any man on here for their personal experience and you will find a long list of times where they got fucked over by women.
Dismissing mens experience is retarded and shows that you're either engaging in low quality bait or you're just so sheltered you've never had to face reality.
I've seen even the strongest examples of men I know get tossed aside by women volatile psychology.