Thread 33641660

If I dislike a woman's friends (i.e. they're loud, whorish, ratchet, stupid, etc.), I shouldn't have any long-term plans to make her my girlfriend right? Even if I enjoyed the sex with her and some of the time we spent together.

>>33641660 (OP)
After all, I've heard that women are all mirrors of their friends (while this is not necessarily true with men) and seeing her around them, and spending time with them, made me feel very tired and disoriented.

>>33641663
I'm in this boat too. My gf is ok but she's knows a bunch of degenerate morons that I wouldn't even spend 5 mins around. This has made me reconsider staying with her long term among other things.

Eventually, one will have to give. Even if your girlfriend is just a conduit for it, there will be friction between you and her friends that makes her feel like she's being torn apart.

From my experience, she will ALWAYS choose the man eventually.

My advice is to stay on top of how their behavior negatively affects your guys' relationship and NEVER cross boundaries with an ultimatum.

Example: I dated a girl whose "best friend" was super jealous that she spent time with me. As a result, she started coaching my gf into starting fights with me that we had already resolved. We'd talk about something, gf would tell friend about the conflict and its resolution, and BFF would say stuff like "HE'S DISRESPECTING YOU AS A WOMAN HE'S A CONTROLLING MISOGYNIST YOU NEED TO GO STAND UP FOR YOURSELF GURL OTHERWISE HE'LL START ABUSING YOU AT SOME UNDEFINED TIME IN THE FUTURE!" Girlfriend would then start a fight with me over something we had already resolved 3 hours before.

When these situations arise, you need to calmly and simply explain to your girlfriend that she is being manipulated and use their text messages against them. Always remind her that you have nothing against these people until they start fucking with your relationship, which they are. Therefore, you want them to butt out of your guys' business. Eventually, gf will start noticing other toxic behavior from said friends and cut ties once some retarded ass drama that has nothing to do with either of you but reveals her friends' poor character pops off.

>>33641751
I wish this were true. Women often listen and stay with their retarded friends for years before they realize they're dead weight. My gf has friends from high school still, faggots she should of longed since dropped but "noooo my memories with my frwiends!!!"

>>33641738
>>33641751
Well think about it this way. She's always going to choose someone she's known for many years and who she has always been the most open with over you. I guess it'd work the same way as a guy too, but I don't really bring any of my friends in contact with the chicks I've dated - I barely even tell them anything about my "love life."

>>33641779
And likewise with my friends and whoever they're dating - they only get intermingled with women for some reason.

It's a lose-lose: if you "successfully" manage to get her to drop her loser friends, they'll find a way to backstab and ostracize her from the rest of the community, which will make her even more depressed.

>>33641660 (OP)
I have definitely had a relationship torn apart by a gf's cunt bitch friends, so
1) try to get on their good side
2) enjoy the time you still have together
3) seek alternatives

>>33641660 (OP)

if you don't see her on a path to outgrow them, she will outgrow you. if she isn't on a trajectory (without regard to you) that will raise her standard beyond that person, then she will continue to be associated with them

I respect the sentiment but do you realistically have the market value to pick your gf down to her friends and family? Those are common criteria for upper class men and young attractive women but for an average guy it's already hard enough to find one wife candidate. It'd be insanity to require her 40 gal pals to be wife material too.

>>33641660 (OP)
I think I'd be stupid if girl dropped me because I have 2 incel friends. if she doesn't bitch about my friends and treats me how I want I don't see a problem