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>What is /htgwg/?
How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.

>What is /htgwg/ not?
These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!

>How to ask for advice
Context is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.

>Resources and Books
Wingman.live: https://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)
"Models": https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.html
"No More Mr Niceguy": https://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612
Wingmam: https://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmam
Dr. NerdLove: https://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/
Leykis 101: https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwq
https://dokumen.pub/why-women-deserve-less-firstnbsped-1467978302-r-1917433.html
(new suggestions with working links are welcome)

REMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.

Prev: >>33657144

Fuck it. I'm going to go downtown and try to get some trashy girls at a bar, maybe I'll get lucky.
I'm assuming my best bets are clubs?

Is this true?

You can do it, bros. Just market yourself

>>33687999
Yep, pretty much.

>>33688107
All Fat women

How do I send an opening message if someone's profile is fucking barren besides a few pics

>>33688107
I'm going to wait a week and then make an account and work on my profile. I'll definitely need some interesting and recent pictures.

>>33688471
Stop dating, Go to asia for a wife

How do you actually get a girl to be your girlfriend? I have talked to girls but it goes no where.

Reposting

How do you text women in ways that keep them interested? I hear to keep it to short, single texts but I feel there's more to it than that

IRL you just have to match their timing, be charming, funny, and assertive with the way you move about. Also present decently. Easy enough. Texting feels like I'm going off on a limb here

How do I get over the crippling fear that if I approach a woman she'll accuse me of harassment?

>>33687932 (OP)
I have the long-term pipeline figured out saying that I'm dating to marry and shit and have a body count of 8 as a result.
>Meet woman on an app
>Text for a few days, mild lovebombing
>Meet up 3-4 times
>Have sex
Thing is, this is really slow and I really just want to have regular sex. I don't get any likes or matches with women who are looking for short-term relationships on the apps.
What's the difference? How do I market myself to the whores who do ONS?
I have a job, car, and most importantly an apartment now so hooking up would be super easy and convenient.

>>33688505
You ultimately have to find some way to spend time hanging out with them. By then you can likely tell if she is into you then flirt.

>>33688622
Can you give a young but not so young nigga advice?

>>33687999
Same as it always was. You can never be too unavailable.

>flirt with women
> it goes nowhere but she kinda confessed feelings for me
> do nothing
> eventually move on =??(i probably didnt lol)
>she talks with other guys = i get jealous

i swear this shit drives me crazy how do i turn this off

Well, been hanging out with this woman that's been all over me, holding my hand, making out, initiating all the physical contact. We know each other from a local spot we both go to but last weekend we started hanging out outside of there and really hit it off, pretty much been with her all week. Noticed she was pulling back a little so I'm giving her space and staying in tonight but I asked if she wants to go out on a date next weekend. Friend of ours told me that the night she was acting cold that all she can think about is me. Not sure if anyone else has been in this situation.

>>33688869
>i swear this shit drives me crazy how do i turn this off

By going after any woman you run into, eventually you'll meet one that finds you attractive, even if you don't think of her as attractive the attention is nice and you might actually like her.

>>33688622
You’re just not what women want for “short term fun,” simple as
All the fucking idiots thinks here that your stats like height and income make you attractive to women, without remembering women are irrational and actually stupid.
They want to fuck delinquents with abs and tattoos and piercings when they’re “having fun,” not Mr. Put Together. You get to marry them after they get blown out by Barroom Billy and Rockabilly Rebel Johnny and Denarius Niggerson
And no, it’s not fair. The hugboxers will say “oh they’re being fun, they’re being confident, they’re being alpha” but they aren’t. If we lived in better times they’d get the Emmett Till treatment because these types of men are just as poisonous for civilized society as the unbridled whores known as modern women.
My advice is just stop dating around and wait to find someone you actually want to marry, with a body count as close to zero as you can get. It’s just pussy, sex really is overrated. Just forget about casual encounters, they’re not for you.

>>33687932 (OP)
What kind of drink does she have?

>>33688970
Pina colada, banana daiquiri, or some tropical fruit slush like that. Can't tell from the shot whether it has alcohol in it or not though

Well that couldn't have went any fucking worse bros and the worst part is there's no one actually at fault so all I can do is yell at the clouds

>>33687717
>Again they make up a small number of women with those type A personality traits. Women don't care that much about their husbands being some weird CEO
Those studies weren't about women with specific personalities but about women in general. Even Mythbusters did a experiment about it and found that women rated men lower or higher based on their occupation and status, but tbf the women were in their 30s-40s and the sample size was much smaller, though I would imagine that it's true to an extent for women in their 20s especially women in their late 20s.
I'm not saying that being independent and driven, and doing more things than playing videogames isn't important, but money and status seems to be a pretty big boost.
I'm currently working on myself, but I understand that I don't have anything to offer to average women around my age.

>>33688479
What works for me
>1 pic that acts like a portrait to show your face clearly
>1 pic of you in a group to show you're not a loner
>1 pic of you with kids or dogs to show your more tender side
>1 of you doing an activity like a sport to show that you do things
>2 fodder pictures that can highlight any aspect that you want, playful, athletic, funny, whatever. These should act as conversation starters
Then for prompts just be urself

>>33689392
>though I would imagine

Friendly bit of advice, don’t assume anything if there isn’t any evidence. Yes, older women want husband material but if it doesn’t say anything for younger women, then don’t invent something just to give yourself an excuse to not try.

>>33688505
At some point you have to make your intentions clear. You dont accidentally get a girlfriend, she has to be aware that you like her and she has to agree.

>>33688622
Present yourself as a manslut on tinder and they'll be all over you

>>33688915
Dude. She's in love with you.

>>33689509
Me assuming that younger women do care about money and status isn't wrong because there's amount evidence to back it up, and besides, I said to an extent, so not as much as mature women.

>>33689392
Anon you just confirmed everything I said in the last thread. Idk why you are arguing. I was specifically talking about women in ages 18-29. Specifically mentioned that women don't really start caring about their husband's or boyfriend's careers until after 30. And again you can't take what a small number of women mark on a survey as gospel. Again we're in agreeance, you're just worrying too much.

1st gf- 5/10 flip, took virginity 2 years
2nd gf- 6.5/10 latina, used goods desu 5 years (FUCK)
3rd gf- 6/10 old roastie jap, tried to marry me 3 years (fuck)
(2 year gap of fucking a niggress or two)
4th gf- 8/10 big titty skinny teen, teased marriage, she wanted to marry (2 years) cheated on with...
5th gf- 9/10 20 year old, perfect perky tits, long legs, 0 belly fat, gorgeous face, could have been a model if she was taller/didnt have scoliosis (was slightly taller than me). actually wanted to marry her, felt like she was just too fucking perfect and fumbled or she didn't actually want me i dont fucking know which came first but it's over (1/4 year is that even a gf? She acted like my wife in that time)

Where do I go from here lads? I think it's literally over. Hypergamy has claimed another victim. There's no way I can go up from the last one, is there? I guess I'd be happy with a stable 7/10, I'm just worried I would be closing my eyes thinking of #5.

I'm not a player, I am a serial monogamist.

Should I ask my asexual girl friend if she knows of anyone who's single? Or is this retarded?

Guys how the fuck do I start off this conversation, just matched for the first time on Tinder with someone who has "open relation" in their bio and looking for is set to "not sure".

I just want to get laid for the first time since a few years, its not even funny at this point anymore. She's tall and slender, kinda butterface but in a cute way so I wanna shoot my shot

>>33691234
I am assuming the space between girl and friend is intentional to signal she isn't your romantic partner?
What are you afraid of? that's she'll take offense to you asking her something related to relationships or sex? I wouldn't be afraid of that unless she has shown to be sensitive on that matter.

>>33688471
don’t swipe on anyone who doesn’t give you anything to work with
>>33688559
that depends on your approach, are you hitting women up in a situation where they can’t walk away from you?
>>33691251
just flirt with her, compliment her and shit, then ask her to come over before things get too hot

>>33691258
>I am assuming the space between girl and friend is intentional to signal she isn't your romantic partner
Yup.
>What are you afraid of?
I dunno, I don't want to make it awkward or something. She's a good friend and I don't want to make her feel uncomfortable with stuff like this

>>33691325
>I dunno, I don't want to make it awkward or something. She's a good friend and I don't want to make her feel uncomfortable with stuff like this
Get drinks, become tipsy, ask. If anything goes wrong you can blame it on the alcohol.

>>33688471
>Pancakes or waffles?
Then claim the opposite answer of what she says is better.

Unsolicited advice. If you are embittered, jaded, desperate, angry or in any similar state, women pick up on it pretty quickly. Women find it repellant and if they do not they probably have a lot of demons

>>33691345
Very good unsolicited advice and 100% true.
I'm very bitter and angry after a bad falling out with family and having my heart played with my some e-thot, not even bothering to play the pussy game right now. It's paying dividends and doing wonders for my peace of mind t b h

>>33691345
this is true. the better way to be is "acting like i already have women in my life," which is full of confidence and even sometimes avoidant behavior like you're trying to get away from her, but if it comes from a place of bitterness it becomes clear you have no women. put everything through the filter of: "does this make it look like i already have women in my life" and you'll start to understand female attraction

>>33691325
If she's a good friend to you and that is felt mutually, why would your friend not like to see you happy with one of their friends?
The fact that you are worried about this, means that you care about your friend. I don't think there is anything wrong with just saying that
>Hey so do you have any lady friends that are maybe single?
And if it gets awkward just say:
>hey I'm sorry I didn't want to make things awkward, I was kinda worried about this before asking, hope you're not mad ok?

>>33688559
This is my experience every time I have approached women since 2020. Was raised in a shit hole of a family. Mom was a alcoholic and most of my uncles and aunties are druggies. Cousins dying like flies early age. The whole upbringing was just a traumatic experience. Somehow I managed to make something of my self. Been working hard and going consistently to the gym since 2020/2021. Even with big money at my disposal women will always see me as a creep and a loser. Maybe they can sense my trauma/ptsd? Maybe I'm just ugly overall? Maybe I don't deserve any love or affection in this life? All I know is women despise me whatever I do. It's like being attracted to Satan who only wants me to suffer in all o eternity. Shit is fucked

If I’m a below average looking white guy, do I stand a chance getting with an overweight Latina woman? I find them really attractive

>>33687999
yes everything you read online is true

How do you learn to forgive yourself for not asking out any of the multiple girls who were clearly attracted to you?
>especially if you've never dated before

Where and how nowadays, frens? Though i´ve had already a few girlfriends, it seems more and more like a impossible mission. Its like i have to do so much more, for so much less.

I´m legit wondering if theres some new meta game that i missing, or if life will be just weak Tinder dates and waiting on the divine?

>>33693111
nothing to apologize for as long as tomorrow you take what you learned and seize on new opportunities