Thread 33812463

Why do you all want "high value women" (like 7 and above) when you aren't high value men? I see a lot of men on here asking for dating advice and 90% of the time is that you guys are aiming for a woman who's out of your league. I don't just mean by attractiveness. Most of you wanting a "good woman" want a housewife yet you're mostly the kind who won't lift a finger to do anything. The kind that says "I'm tired from work I shouldn't have to do anything" even though you both work. Confidence isn't the issue. Appearance? Yeah sometimes. However majority of you guys NEED to understand that if you want a beautiful housewife you gotta be the kind of man deserving of one. If not then make enough to support the both of you comfortably.

Common issues around here, yeah.
Also the idea that a relationship would fix them, but the reality is that they need to fix themselves first.
Also, not understanding how important personality and charisma are.
Also acting like all women are the same.
Also generally lacking social skills.
Also asking other guys, that also are unable to reach their goals, for advice. How could they possibly help?
Also simping.
...and so on.

>>33812463 (OP)
Mate you are not going to change anybody's mind, especially with that attitude anyway, kill yourself.

nah
nobody is out of my league and self improvement is a scam

OP has a pharmacy of hard-to-swallow pills lol.

Many people have not seen a functional relationship modeled before, so it's very hard to start one. I'm lucky one pair of grandparents had a great relationship, otherwise I'd be pretty lost.

>>33812463 (OP)
My dating issue is too many hot women want me. How am I supposed to commit to one when there's so many of them?

>>33812463 (OP)
The only interest anyone has given me has been 5foot tall 400lb landwhales with visible mental issues.

I'm 5'11" 155lbs, I'm not a landwhale, my only ptsd is from the landwhales.

An actual 60yo tried hitting on me and told me modern women are insane.

I'm not expecting 10/10, but your worldview only works if I am.

My actual matches have been spoiled rotten, convinced I'm evil, will never lift a finger till its to late and are generaly delusional about life.

The birth rate is far below replacement, that's not my fault and you will try and fail to blame me for it. It is firmly thier fault and the inevitable solution is curbing thier excesses, as there nothing left to steal from people like me.

>>33812463 (OP)
This but you're also forgetting the best (worst) part:
They'll then turn around and complain about hypergamy and "inflated female standards" all in the same breath. Not a trace of self-awareness.

>>33812463 (OP)
>when you aren't high value men
i am though

>Most of you wanting a "good woman" want a housewife yet you're mostly the kind who won't lift a finger to do anything. The kind that says "I'm tired from work I shouldn't have to do anything" even though you both work.

bullshit

>beautiful housewife
i don't want a housewife

>Also the idea that a relationship would fix them, but the reality is that they need to fix themselves first.
you shouldn't have to have everything perfect to get love is the whole point

>Also, not understanding how important personality and charisma are.
i have a good personality. if they're not drawn to me that's their own malfunction. lots of confident charming men are scum


>Also acting like all women are the same.
i don't do this

>Also generally lacking social skills.
how the fuck can you say i need to fix myself first, and put in an effort, then say i need to fix social skills, if women won't talk to me, won't respond to my requests, etc?

I'm trying to get every rep in possible improving that shit. i literally cannot do it by myself and they're not "opening the gym" metaphorically so I can use it to get better.

>Also asking other guys, that also are unable to reach their goals, for advice.
asking women or men that have been sexually successful isn't useful either. no one has good actionable advice for a 30 something virgin that isn't "shave neck beard, take shower" level pablum. people just pretend men like me don't exist, or haven't encountered someone like me to even understand why the advice they give isn't working. where am i supposed to ask?

>Also simping.
don't do this, never have

>>33812463 (OP)
You're 100% right, but don't expect anyone here to listen. You now that incely, weird loser kid in school that would act like a retard and become chippy when people called him out on it and said that he was behaving unreasonably? This whole board is a cesspool of those. They have no self-awareness. They feel like the world owes them just because. They can't place themselves in others, especially not a woman. Let them be alone. It's natural selection (in the literal technical sense of the word). This is a quality of real life, and we don't live in an anime where anon is the protagonist. Wake up or die.

>>33813918
>i am though
You're 100% not a high value man you utter fucking coping moron. You're a narcissist. And a low iq one at that. You would have women blowing up your DMs if you were high value.

Why the fuck are people here so delusional? What story are you telling yourself on an ongoing basis to become so out of touch with reality?

>>33813960
>You're 100% not a high value man
why not

>>33813980
Because you have none of the markers that would suggest otherwise. None. Zero.

>>33812463 (OP)
I think incels don’t see themselves as high-value men. Rather, than see themselves as neutral and deserving of an idealized woman, said idealized woman being inflated by unrealistic standards borne out of inexperience with actual women. Since incels themselves tend to be incels for a reason (ALWAYS a problem of demeanor and attitude that may or may not be modified by existing physical shortcomings), a giant gap is created between what an incel expects versus what he himself can actually offer to any woman. A misogynistic attitude, disdain for women, and gravitation towards abusive behaviors as masculine doesn’t cancel out “I have so much love to give.” Add that to the fact that incels mistakenly believe that the “average woman” is fucking 10 men a day and will leave a committed relationship for the muscular pool boy, so they overcompensate further in the other direction of what they think they want in order to avoid the nonexist pitfalls of the “average western woman”

>>33813984
such as?

>>33813989
What most incels consider high value conditions is literally just common sense chores to normies. They're completely out of touch with adult life.

Look at this guy >>33813918
>i have a good personality. if they're not drawn to me that's their own malfunction
and then
>how the fuck can you say i need to fix myself first, and put in an effort, then say i need to fix social skills, if women won't talk to me, won't respond to my requests, etc?
Just read that out loud.
So now, what is this exactly? A narcissist? An unbelievably stupid fucking human being? Right. So how are you going to change someone who's dug themselves so deep in this delulu-trench. You can't even change yourself and you're going to change this guy? Forget about it. They'll be 47, sitting alone in their bed and then suddenly realise just how they ruined what their forefathers sacrificed so much for. Ice age, diseases, plagues, war, famines, wild fucking animals trying to bring them down. All of it, ruined, because of this sore fucking delusional motherfucker. Fuck that guy.

>>33813960
So you and OP are making hilarious assumptions and think you know how women work. Literally all women now are chadsexual and apply the 666 rule to every guy. Women have said I look like jacob elordi, i have a nice personality, im just not 6’ 5” and don’t make 6 figures. Then again, im young as fuck and there’s no reason why I’d be. So therefore I’m ruled out and get no women, or land whales like >>33813882 mentioned.

>>33814000
>"do you have women chasing you?"
>"no"
>"do headhunters reach out to you frequently?"
>"no"
>"do friends contact you every other day to hand out or do fun interesting things together?"
>"no"
>"do you have irreplacebale skills or knowledge"
>"no"
>"do you have a single outstanding accomplishment behind you or in the pipeline"
>"no"
>etc.
>etc.
There you go.

>>33814010
What people say doesn't matter. Look at their actions. Look at what you're actually getting. You're getting nothing. You're such a naive idiot. Probably very young.

>>33813989
Whoareyou?

>>33814013
>You're getting nothing. You're such a naive idiot. Probably very young.
Did your dad talk to you like this or something?

>>33814021
Go back to touching your ass and smelling it afterwards.

>>33814024
Average "incel" witch hunter:

>>33814024
Exposed yourself
>>33814034
Lmao

Captcha: vvvvv

>>33814034
>>33814064
You'll be alone and crying this weekend like the one before. Keep wasting the best time of your life here, you'll never get it back.

>>33814010
Op here, uh I know how women work because I am one I'm saying all that as a woman
>>33813888
I often forget that self awareness isn't part of a human's default.
>>33812874
You're exhibit A.

>>33814086
>Keep wasting the best time of your life here
Who says it’s the best time of my life? What else should I do? I can’t do shit, that’s why I’m on here. Where am I gonna fucking go.

>>33814114
>Op here, uh I know how women work because I am one I'm saying all that as a woman
Yeah I thought so, it’s a post bitching about men. I know damn well you’re ugly/fat/unlovable and have daddy issues. Kill yourself, foid

I don't even high value. I literally just want one who genuinely loves me. That's it.

>>33812463 (OP)
>Why do you all want "high value women" (like 7 and above) when you aren't high value men?
“High value women” isn’t even a term. I just want my looksmatch. All women are chadsexual. You are creating your own problems then trashing up this board with this useless thread.
>Most of you wanting a "good woman" want a housewife yet you're mostly the kind who won't lift a finger to do anything.
You’re a newfag who came straight from reddit if you actually believe this
>However majority of you guys NEED to understand
No, I will not have some foid telling me what to do. What YOU need to do is shut the fuck up, get off this site, swallow a dick, then kys
>If not then make enough to support the both of you comfortably.
And there it is, women only caring about money and material things

>>33814122
Get a life. That's what you're supposed to be doing at your age. Literally.

>>33814141
cope

Also, I've been here for 15 years kek.

>>33814141
How many times are you going to reply.

>>33814125
And your not?

>>33814136
same and i fell in love with someone who is in love with someone else.

>>33814159
>everyone lives the same life as me and should and definitely has the same chances and opportunities as me
>>33814177
>cope
Says the foid making a bitching-about-men thread in /adv/ when it could be on like 3 other boards instead. Idc if you’ve been here for 15 years, you were always meant for reddit
>>33814188
Correct, I am none of those things lol

>>33814212
>Says the foid making a bitching-about-men thread
That's your problem. No one, quite literally no one is bitching about men. You are a sensitive little virgin prick with no self reflection whatsoever.

People tend to get their looksmatch. If you're getting nothing, analyse your apperance and see if you're neglecting yourself.

>>33812463 (OP)
kinda accurate. i'm not really into the housewife shit, though.
i'd just like to date someone (move onto partner, marriage if things went well) who i'm reasonably attracted to, have enough in common to talk about and get along, and have compatible libidos and sexual communication.
i've gone on dates with enough women who i didn't feel much if any physical attraction towards to know that i just can't sustain interest to continue putting effort into it. but i don't think my preferences are totally unrealistic.
also i can acknowledge im not exactly where i'd like to be career-wise and in my social skills (sometimes if i really click or am a bit tipsy i can be pretty charming), but i totally understand that's probably a pass from most womens' perspective - often times i think to myself i wouldnt want to commit to dating me either.

>>33812463 (OP)
A lot of the guys on here are actual retards with crippling autism. However even the ones who are not have no luck.

>>33812463 (OP)
>Why do you all want "high value women" (like 7 and above) when you aren't high value men?
Most of them don't realise, or don't want to face the reality, that they are not in fact high value men. But you are right, this is pretty much the source of the issue.

>>33814458
>Most of them don't realise, or don't want to face the reality, that they are not in fact high value men.
Bingo. And even in this thread we've seen posts like "oh I don't want the world, just my looksmatch!" and in his head he's probably still picturing the cute girl next door who is "merely" a 7 or so as opposed to instagram models.
The problem is that his true looksmatch is more like a 3 on a good day. They're still aiming too high, like WAY too high.

>>33814470
>The problem is that his true looksmatch is more like a 3 on a good day. They're still aiming too high, like WAY too high.
Exactly.

>>33814485
And what makes this all the more tragic (and hilarious) is that women don't rate men on looks alone. A regular average looking guy (let's call him a 5) can still punch way above his weight class if he's a cool fun guy and has some stuff going for him. I've seen it time and time again.
Meanwhile that same 5 if he's a friendless loser with the personality of drywall will be lucky to match with a female 5, because it's not just about looks. If he's a bitter asshole, he's bleeding points left and right and might get a 2 or 3.
If he's a NEET who uses terms like "foid" unironically, that's like instant game-over and he may as well consider himself screened out.

>>33812463 (OP)
I. DON'T. WANT. A. HEALTHY. WOMAN.

I'm on 4chan for a reason, damnit. I'm specifically looking for unhealthy, someone who I can grow as a person with. Problem with this place is that 90% of the women are whores/catfishes/attention seekers and the other 10% have so many people messaging them that I'm not even given a real chance.

anon that means that you want 90% of women if you want to grow with someone, because these so called whores are also able to grow from being unhealthy.

>>33812463 (OP)
incels should just surrender and become gay bottoms.

>>33812463 (OP)
>Why do you all want "high value women" (like 7 and above) when you aren't high value men?
Because anon would much rather believe that they are high value, it's just that """society""" doesn't value their high value.

>>33813980
Hanging out on 4chan is a sure sign of being low value.

>>33815033
I am not a whore. I don't want a whore.

>>33812463 (OP)
I am a 40y old 3/10 neet chud with no job, no house, no money, no future, nothing. But I won't settle for anything less than a 7/10 with a banging body and pretty face who is half my age.
God owes me a beautiful loving white wife to make up for the cards I've been dealt in this life and for all the suffering I had to endure.

>>33815146
>whore
Do you mean "sex worker" or do you mean "has had sex outside of marriage"? If the latter, then you will die alone.

>>33815354
idk why youre so mad to me men who have sex outside of marriage are whores too. your brains are just fried by the hookup culture

>>33814281
>No one, quite literally
Holy reddit

Also, you literally have been bitching about men in this entire thread. You’re an old, bitter, ugly bitch who can’t even get a guy and is taking it out in this horrible thread
>>33814470
Lmao look at this circle jerk. And yes, I’m conventionally attractive so I want my fucking looksmatch, foid. Several women have said I look like jacob elordi and other celebrities. Sorry I mog you, fatass
>>33814515
>has some stuff going for him
There it is, material things. I have an incredible personality and charisma, who gives a fuck about friends. That literally has nothing to do with it. I would LOVE a friendless “loser” girlfriend, it’s not her fucking fault. You are a vapid, MILLENIAL, worthless and bitter foid who is projecting her anger onto a website she shouldn’t even be on in the first place. Keep glazing me though.
>If he's a NEET who uses terms like "foid" unironically, that's like instant game-over and he may as well consider himself screened out.
Lmao keep slaving away, wagie

>>33815246
This. Women should have their mouths sewn shut, it’s beyond me that they have the balls to post some outrageous ass bullshit like this over literally nothing
>oh nooooo NEET incels it’s the end of the world noooooo
Oh my God dude you’re like in you 30s, you ARE drywall, your PUSSY is drywall, you have NO kids (your literally only purpose in life), and you take all your anger out on 4chan, the incel website that YOU CHOOSE ACTIVELY, DAILY, TO GO ON. You don’t like what you see on this site, then go on another one. It’s that easy. You know what you’re gonna see on here because it’s mostly guys, you fucking retard. I’m attractive, young, skinny. Even though it doesn’t matter what I tell you because you made shit up and have your own headcanon or whatever like a psychopath. Yeah I’m not loaded and have 666 but literally no one near my age does. Kill yourself.

>>33815464
>I have an incredible personality and charisma,
Really? You sure do hide it well in your posts, fag.

>>33815525
>hurr durr arguments reflect your entire personality
If this is OP, how does it feel to be a low value woman? If it’s not, you’re calling me fag when you, as a man, are defending a feminist?

>>33815246
>God owes me
This is where you are wrong

>>33815373
Your mind has been infected with ideas that are guaranteeing your misery.

>>33815354
I mean the "body count of 10+"/"posting half-naked pictures for all to see" type of people. And the ones that need male attention and validation like water

>>33815537
>taking a falseflag basedjack post seriously

>no stds
>no single moms
>no morbidly obese
>no asylum skippers
>no +100k debt
>no body tattoos that cover 50% of thier body
>be nice

>YoU wAnT a 10/10
>JuSt LoWeR yOuR sTaNdArDs

I don't have stds.
I don't have kids.
I'm not obese.
I don't take any ssri's or do self medication via drugs.
I don't have debt.
I didn't destroy my skin with so much ink you can't tell what the tattoo is.
I'm not mentally ill or mean.

I just want to match.
If these standards are too high and you think I want a 10/10, you are lying and just here to hurt people.
Those that match by just appearance alone are spoiled rotten mentaly ill druggie children in adult bodies.

Plus you don't even have to apply any of these standards on an app, you still just get 0 responses.

Blame me all you want it literally doesn't work the way you claim. "Just try harder" and "lower your standards" is pure cope at this point.

>>33815354
Nothing special about sharing a body with hundreds of people